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The great big "ask an airline pilot" thread!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    martinsvi wrote: »
    16269689594_ba7170de15_b.jpg

    you mean the tiny little straw coming out of the pod? I believe that's one of the fuel vents. There should be another surge vent close to the tip of the wing, but I believe they serve a slightly different purpose.

    btw don't argue with the chemtrail folk, I'm telling this from experience - it's like talking to a brick wall.. not sure what propaganda methods they have been exposed to, but it's scary to think that a couple of home made movies, youtube channels and doggy websites is enough to make reasonably intelligent adults to throw their critical thinking into a bin

    It was that little straw, yes. I since found it on this page (at the bottom). They call it the Aft Fairing drain pipe.

    http://www.b737.org.uk/powerplant.htm

    Whatever, it's not for delivering chemtrails! I've had plenty of dealings with these guys too. The words brain and dead spring to mind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭martinsvi


    ah I see - so I though the exhaust pipe is the drain pipe and the drain pipe is the vent.. :/ glad my AGK exam is not tomorrow :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭flyguy


    With regard to earlies vs lates, what do pilots prefer? My understanding is that say earlies start at 5-6am ish, finish around 1pm, late shift comes on then at 1pm till 10-11pm and later.

    Does the late shift get more flying time/no of sectors or is it balanced out?

    What do they prefer? It probably differs per pilot...
    I can only think of one Irish airline with a pattern like that though and it would be Ryanair, a week of lates followed by a week of earlies. Also the duty length can be much longer than that, we can easily do a 12 hour day, but if you're lucky it can be less as well.
    Most airlines would have nights away from home even on short haul destinations. As for long haul you'll definitely have a different pattern.
    I'd say flying hours balance out between pilots working for the same company in the same base, most don't let you pick your own flights/roster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,351 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    I'd say flying hours balance out between pilots working for the same company in the same base, most don't let you pick your own flights/roster.

    We get to pick our own roster based on seniority, so you can take specific days off, specific destinations, chase money or chase layovers, this applies for short / medium and long haul.

    Depending on the time of the year and fleet expansion plans, there are certain fleets that are certainly busier than others, for example our A320 Captains are presently doing about 100 hours per month, A330 about 80 and B777 about 70. First Officers on all fleets are less due to training requirements.

    As most of our airports operate 24 hours a day, there is nothing like early's / late's.

    Personally the perfect start time for me is 5-6am getting out of bed, however for the last 3 days that's the time I arrived in my bed :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,351 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    They call it the Aft Fairing drain pipe
    Is that the code name for the Chemical dispenser?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Do you need to know the mechanics of all working parts on the aircraft ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭pepe the prawn


    smurfjed wrote: »
    We get to pick our own roster based on seniority, so you can take specific days off, specific destinations, chase money or chase layovers, this applies for short / medium and long haul.

    Depending on the time of the year and fleet expansion plans, there are certain fleets that are certainly busier than others, for example our A320 Captains are presently doing about 100 hours per month, A330 about 80 and B777 about 70. First Officers on all fleets are less due to training requirements.

    As most of our airports operate 24 hours a day, there is nothing like early's / late's.

    Personally the perfect start time for me is 5-6am getting out of bed, however for the last 3 days that's the time I arrived in my bed :)


    Out of interest, what places have you flown to/visited in the last 10 days?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Is that the code name for the Chemical dispenser?

    Guy (from Wexford who visits schools with this rubbish) was on Irish radio program about 10 days ago was claiming that the chemtrails are emitted from the pipes under the tail of the B737-800's that Ryanair use...... "they are a low fares airlines who seem to make an awful lot of money"
    His belief was scary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Would you happen to know the show?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Growler!!!


    With regard to earlies vs lates, what do pilots prefer? My understanding is that say earlies start at 5-6am ish, finish around 1pm, late shift comes on then at 1pm till 10-11pm and later.

    Does the late shift get more flying time/no of sectors or is it balanced out?

    I prefer Lates, gives me a bit more time in bed and I'm generally not as tired. Earlies usually end between 2 and 3pm so the times balance out over all.
    flyguy wrote: »
    I can only think of one Irish airline with a pattern like that though and it would be Ryanair, a week of lates followed by a week of earlies.

    Stobart and Aer Lingus have the same week of earlies and week of lates pattern.
    vicwatson wrote: »
    Do you need to know the mechanics of all working parts on the aircraft ?

    A working knowledge of how all the systems operate is essential more so when something goes wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Would you happen to know the show?

    His name is Terry Lawton and he's a few chemicals short of chemtrail. A complete and utter nutter who seems to have all the time in the world to swan off to annoy people in the UK Met Office and other 'suspect' locations.

    This is the clip. He's a hoot alright.

    https://youtu.be/6Leq3AoiPk8


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭pepe the prawn


    His name is Terry Lawton and he's a few chemicals short of chemtrail. A complete and utter nutter who seems to have all the time in the world to swan off to annoy people in the UK Met Office and other 'suspect' locations.

    This is the clip. He's a hoot alright.

    https://youtu.be/6Leq3AoiPk8

    What Is he purporting the chemtrails lark is about?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    What Is he purporting the chemtrails lark is about?

    Not sure, he changes his ideas weekly. From geoengineering to mass genocide to Illuminati to whatever yer having yourself.

    I wonder what makes these people tick...or thick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,802 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    What happens to the flight recording of flights? Only ever hear of them being used when crash happens.

    Do they get kept or wiped?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    Not sure, he changes his ideas weekly. From geoengineering to mass genocide to Illuminati to whatever yer having yourself.

    I wonder what makes these people tick...or thick.

    The chemtrails:pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    Ted_YNWA wrote: »
    What happens to the flight recording of flights? Only ever hear of them being used when crash happens.

    Do they get kept or wiped?

    I think it records two hours on a continuous loop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    His name is Terry Lawton and he's a few chemicals short of chemtrail. A complete and utter nutter who seems to have all the time in the world to swan off to annoy people in the UK Met Office and other 'suspect' locations.

    This is the clip. He's a hoot alright.

    https://youtu.be/6Leq3AoiPk8

    He lost me at "Airplanes are creating clouds, blocking out the sun".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Bussywussy


    Ted_YNWA wrote: »
    What happens to the flight recording of flights? Only ever hear of them being used when crash happens.

    Do they get kept or wiped?

    They'll record over each other.or you can erase CVR data by pressing a button on ground with a number of conditions

    The Flight Data Recorder records about 25 hours and the Newer Cockpit Voice Recorders have 4 x 30 min channels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭Negative_G


    His name is Terry Lawton and he's a few chemicals short of chemtrail. A complete and utter nutter who seems to have all the time in the world to swan off to annoy people in the UK Met Office and other 'suspect' locations.

    This is the clip. He's a hoot alright.

    https://youtu.be/6Leq3AoiPk8

    So a super computer in the UK met office constantly monitors every piece of atmosphere around the globe and sends a signal to planes via satellite to remotely activate the spraying of chemicals out of airliners in order to control the weather.

    Sounds completely plausible alright.

    What a complete nut case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,351 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    So are you saying that you have never seen an aircraft spraying chemicals into the atmosphere to control the weather?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭Negative_G


    smurfjed wrote: »
    So are you saying that you have never seen an aircraft spraying chemicals into the atmosphere to control the weather?

    Check out his Facebook page, Terry Lawton is the guys name. Gas stuff altogether.

    I hope he used a ferry to get to his conferences, the thought of flying on a chemical spewing 737 might just send him over the edge!

    Chemtrails, 9/11, fluoride and lizard people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,351 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    While the idea of commercial airliners spraying the skies is absolutely absurd, the concept of cloud seeding from smaller aircraft is frequently done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 951 ✭✭✭Bussywussy


    Imagine if he saw Lufthansa's test A340,the one that did the ash cloud surveys 😂😂😂


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭Cessna_Pilot


    Negative_G wrote: »
    Check out his Facebook page, Terry Lawton is the guys name. Gas stuff altogether.

    I hope he used a ferry to get to his conferences, the thought of flying on a chemical spewing 737 might just send him over the edge!

    Chemtrails, 9/11, fluoride and lizard people.

    Just had a sneaky look at his page there. My God some people need to get a life! Lunatic! Unfortunately a lot of people share this man's delusions! Shame they can't contribute anything useful to mankind. :o:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne


    Shame they can't contribute anything useful to mankind. :o:pac:
    In all fairness, individuals such as Mr Lawton do perform a useful public service, they give the likes of us a good laugh! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    smurfjed wrote: »
    So are you saying that you have never seen an aircraft spraying chemicals into the atmosphere to control the weather?

    Only in the form of cloud-seeding, which is done on a local scale through silver iodide particles from flares on the wings of light aircraft. A long way off what idiots like Terry Lawtontohimself et al. claim.

    I set up this Facebook page to scientifically debunk each of their claims. Already have another such tulip shedding a few petals on it.

    https://www.facebook.com/ridiculouschemtrailnonsense/?fref=nf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70,193 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    If you "keep seeing chemtrail nuts" doing anything you do really need to reconsider where you drink/read online/what facebook friends you keep etc. They don't take being corrected well, at all - they're usually fully committed to their insanity. A quick trip to prison usually sorts them once they 'discover' "Freeman of the land" nonsense, though.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    OK Folks, it's time to move on from Chemtrails and the associated stupidity related to it, some of which has been outlined here.

    While there have been a couple of useful posts, the rest are realistically more appropriate to the conspiracy forum. That will in all probability change unless we do something about it. So, the SOMETHING is simple.

    No more posts in this thread on Chemtrails
    , or related issues.


    The Airlines, and commercial aircraft are NOT involved, so move on, or take the appropriate response from the team here.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,284 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC



    No more posts in this thread on Chemtrails

    Thank God!:D:D:D

    Was getting sick of them!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    OK Folks, it's time to move on from Chemtrails and the associated stupidity related to it, some of which has been outlined here.

    While there have been a couple of useful posts, the rest are realistically more appropriate to the conspiracy forum. That will in all probability change unless we do something about it. So, the SOMETHING is simple.

    No more posts in this thread on Chemtrails
    , or related issues.


    The Airlines, and commercial aircraft are NOT involved, so move on, or take the appropriate response from the team here.

    And so, the cover up continues :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,006 ✭✭✭Pat Dunne



    No more posts in this thread on Chemtrails
    , or related issues.
    Does that mean we can start a new thread? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,351 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Annual training time, yesterday was relatively boring, but today I get to evacuate from a burning (simulated) airliner into a swimming pool and get rescued by a dozen or so flight attendants. Unfortunately no bikinis allowed :) And NO PICTURES,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭sysprogrammer


    Hi Smurf, FR336, XWB,

    When was the last time you flew a propeller airplane ?

    and as a follow on ,Do you fly anything else for fun ?

    finally for a bit of fun , would you fly this ? or what would advice would you give the designer ??

    http://volocopter.com/

    thanks in advance,
    Sys


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭martinsvi


    Hi Smurf, FR336, XWB,

    When was the last time you flew a propeller airplane ?

    this is a good question, but would you not consider asking this to all airline pilots rather than few selected individuals of whom at least one isn't even a pilot? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,351 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    For me, 2008 in Scottsdale Arizona in a Cessna 182T. Unfortunately I have to get written managerial permission before I'm allowed fly any private aircraft.

    As for the Volocopter, probably not for the reason above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Unfortunately I have to get written managerial permission before I'm allowed fly any private aircraft.

    Is this standard for all pilots? What's the logic? In case you crash or something? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭pepe the prawn


    smurfjed wrote: »
    For me, 2009 in Scottsdale Arizona in a Cessna 210. Unfortunately I have to get written managerial permission before I'm allowed fly any private aircraft.

    As for the Volocopter, probably not for the reason above.


    Opinions on the 210?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,351 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    26489708014_b9fe92ab24_c.jpg26491348403_abb0d60a84_c.jpg

    PTP, considering that i couldn't remember the difference between a 210 and 182T, I would guess that i wasn't amazed :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,351 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Is this standard for all pilots?
    I have no clue for other airlines, but for us its to monitor duty and rest periods. However, as i live in a country that has zero private single engine aircraft so it's not much of a hinderance.

    They stopped me from flying flex wing ultralights/microlights as they considered them too dangerous, same went for paragliding :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭martinsvi


    smurfjed wrote: »
    PTP, considering that i couldn't remember the difference between a 210 and 182T, I would guess that i wasn't amazed :)

    that's a 182 in your pic, 210 has retractable gear and is a 6 seater :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,351 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Thanks martinsvi, I thought that the 206/207 had 6 seats, but the 172/182/210 family had 4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,729 ✭✭✭martinsvi


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Thanks martinsvi, I thought that the 206/207 had 6 seats, but the 172/182/210 family had 4.

    no worries, at least that explains why you didn't find it any different than 182 :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,351 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    27089805465_10ba31e5b2_c.jpg

    B787 Door Trainer

    27089748935_1fb9aafe6d_c.jpg

    B777 Slide

    Not sure if anyone tries to find the CFIT thread anymore :)

    The concept of opening an aircraft door may appear easy, but getting it wrong can result in this massive slide getting released, with the possibility of injuries or even death for the poor person outside. Each slide can cost up to $100,000 so its also an expensive mistake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭pepe the prawn


    smurfjed wrote: »
    26489708014_b9fe92ab24_c.jpg26491348403_abb0d60a84_c.jpg

    PTP, considering that i couldn't remember the difference between a 210 and 182T, I would guess that i wasn't amazed :)

    You'd remember the difference if it was actually a 210 and you thought it was a 182 and forgot to put the gear down before landing :pac: :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭pepe the prawn


    smurfjed wrote: »
    Thanks martinsvi, I thought that the 206/207 had 6 seats, but the 172/182/210 family had 4.

    It varies, some 210'S have 4 seats some have 6 seats. Normally the four seat variant finished with the 210-J model, but some later six seaters had the rearmost two seats removed by owners for various reasons.

    182's are normally 230-ish hp i think, 210's are 300hp +.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,351 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    Old Technology :)

    26491556834_fcf8df06a3_c.jpg

    Our senior crew who are approaching 65 years of age would have trained in this Link Training for their instrument rating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭sysprogrammer


    martinsvi wrote: »
    this is a good question, but would you not consider asking this to all airline pilots rather than few selected individuals of whom at least one isn't even a pilot? :rolleyes:

    Pedantic much ?

    I was saying hi to the pilots who have answered a lot of previous questions is all, (one retired ).

    the questions are open to everyone as we forumites don't know all the ATPL's here.

    I am asking about this Volocopter as I can really see it catching on , and it is rather worrying about the lack of prop protection from bird strike.

    One slick feature though, is that the designers hope to have a fully automated vehicle, so you jump in , forget about any training whatsoever and punch in the gps co-ordinates of your destination.

    Tesla have a 2-d working version of this Autopilot (see link below) so the future appears to remove the human element. I would like to know what opinions current pilots have on this ?

    https://youtu.be/UgNhYGAgmZo?t=1m14s


  • Registered Users Posts: 439 ✭✭TedR


    I was watching the Airbus (A320 Im pretty sure) I was about to board being prepped for take off last night, it was on a quick turn around having literally just arrived. Most of the activity was obvious, cleaners on/baggage out/refuel etc, but my question is about the small vehicle that pulled up under nose of the jet and plugged in to a small door there. I assume its part of the avionics bay or something? Right under the cockpit.
    What would the connection be for, do they download/upload/recharge stuff or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭Skuxx


    TedR wrote: »
    I was watching the Airbus (A320 Im pretty sure) I was about to board being prepped for take off last night, it was on a quick turn around having literally just arrived. Most of the activity was obvious, cleaners on/baggage out/refuel etc, but my question is about the small vehicle that pulled up under nose of the jet and plugged in to a small door there. I assume its part of the avionics bay or something? Right under the cockpit.
    What would the connection be for, do they download/upload/recharge stuff or something?

    That's for supplying ground power, basically supply electrical power to the A/C from an external source called a GPU rather then using the APU!


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 9,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Im going to take a guess that it was a mobile ground power unit but without seeing a pic I couldnt be 100%.
    Some airports/stands have power supplied from ground station so the aircraft doesnt have to use its own supply. Some use these mobile units to provide electrical power for lights/air con etc while on stand.
    The momentary black out you often get pre departure is the aircraft switching from GPU to aircraft power.


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