Snow and Ice in the Northern Hemisphere 2011/2012

Harps

Snow just refusing to cross the Russian border at the moment, its been stuck there all week!

HalloweenJack

It snowed last night here in Brno in the Czech Republic, just down near the border with Austria and Slovakia. It's not deep, maybe a cm at it's worst.

Harps

Harps wrote: »

Snow just refusing to cross the Russian border at the moment, its been stuck there all week!

It's waiting for it's visa!

Musicman2000

We could be waiting a while by the looks of things upsteam:mad:

MUSEIST

Amazing the way the snow seems to stop dead on the ukranian and belarusian borders. Scandinavia seems to have a lack of snow, would have expected more.

Musicman2000

MUSEIST wrote: »

Amazing the way the snow seems to stop dead on the ukranian and belarusian borders. Scandinavia seems to have a lack of snow, would have expected more.

Thats thanks to the blocking euro high

Coeurdepirate

Europe is very far behind compared to this time last year

Yesterday (2nd Dec 2011):


2nd Dec 2010:

pistolpetes11

Great pic , Sweden finally getting some snow cover

thetonynator

Irish snow at last! North has plenty and theres a few pixels in Wicklow too.

thetonynator

Huge ice gains in Hudson ay today as well.

Godge

http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/


While on the one hand "snow cover levels were anomalously low over Scandinavia and northwestern Europe during November", this is much more encouraging "overall Northern Hemisphere snow cover was more extensive than normal this November, with most of the extra snow cover found in Canada and Russia. Snow covered an average of 36.2 million square kilometers (14.0 million square miles) of Northern Hemisphere land. This is 2.79 million square kilometers (1.08 million square miles) above the 1971 to 2000 mean, and ranks as the fourth most extensive cover in the past 46 years of satellite-derived snow cover records."

If we could just get some to come our way.

Coeurdepirate

Today:


This day last year:

PaddyTheNth

Coeurdepirate wrote: »

Today:


This day last year:

Interesting to see that there is actually more coverage in the 'stans and Mongolia this year. Depressing to see the lower sea ice coverage.

Su Campu

PaddyTheNth wrote: »

Interesting to see that there is actually more coverage in the 'stans and Mongolia this year. Depressing to see the lower sea ice coverage.

I don't know - to me it looks like there's more ice off eastern Greenland, from Svalbard across to Novaya Zemlya and along the northern Russian coast to Archengelsk, while there is less in northern Canada, off eastern Asia and the Bering Strait. Overall though I'd say there's not much difference.

ct5amr2ig1nfhp

Ah, my post didn't appear. Strange.

My post was similar to what Su Campu posted. Looks about the same coverage as last year. In fact some places have ice that didn't last year.

Harps

It looks to be up if anything, apart from around Novaya Zemlya I can't see anywhere where there's noticeably less than last year

Coeurdepirate

So Ireland and Portugal are the only countries in Europe without even a pixel of snow. Fúck our lives.

TheInquisitor

Last year versus this year





It'll be interesting to see how this changes over the next week!

K_1

Interesting to see big areas of Poland and Germanywith no snow despite the low temps.

Conor30

K_1 wrote: »

Interesting to see big areas of Poland and Germanywith no snow despite the low temps.

How come there are specks of white over parts of Ireland? I didn't think there had been any snow anywhere in Ireland...

It seems Ireland and Portugal are the mildest places in Europe right now! Even Italy and Turkey have been inundated with snow!

I think I'd rather move to a Continental country that gets the best of both worlds and proper seasons. I can't take any more of Ireland's uni-season climate and weather you can't rely on. :rolleyes:

By the looks of that image, there's even snow in North Africa! (must be mountains)

K_1

Conor30 wrote: »

How come there are specks of white over parts of Ireland? I didn't think there had been any snow anywhere in Ireland...

It seems Ireland and Portugal are the mildest places in Europe right now! Even Italy and Turkey have been inundated with snow!

I think I'd rather move to a Continental country that gets the best of both worlds and proper seasons. I can't take any more of Ireland's uni-season climate and weather you can't rely on. :rolleyes:

Snow spots in Ireland must be hills, image is from yesterday so presumably there were spots of snow somewhere.

Deleted User wrote: »

By the looks of that image, there's even snow in North Africa! (must be mountains)

Nope, low level snow across large areas of Algeria this week!

Yahew

yes, in Algiers.

Rikand

The snow really has started to pull back from europe in the last couple of weeks

http://www.natice.noaa.gov/ims/loop/asia-1mo-loop.html

snowstreams

The sea ice will be reaching its peak now very soon. Doesnt seem to be much ice this year in the area north of Scandinavia.

Elmer Blooker

snowstreams wrote: »

The sea north of Scandinavia is always ice free thanks to the Gulf Stream.
The Russian port of Murmansk remains ice free all year for example.

MiNdGaM3

Elmer Blooker wrote: »

The sea north of Scandinavia is always ice free thanks to the Gulf Stream.
The Russian port of Murmansk remains ice free all year for example.

The sea ice north of Scandinavia (Barents and Kara seas) are very much below average this year and have been holding back the rest of the Arctic which has been close to or above average much of the Winter.
The Barents sea is currently running at a 400,000km2 -ve anomaly, while Kara has a -ve 100,000km2 anomaly.
All the data is here http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/

This year compared to a typical year.
http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/deetest/deetmp.16527.png

Kermit.de.frog

Bump! I can't edit my opening thread title but if a mod could do it for this season it would be much appreciated


It's that time of year again when gradually the Artic starts to cool and that process will speed up in the next 4 weeks.

I will post new charts later today to show the state of play. It's all very interesting to observe the ice and cold atmosphere advance and with it the hope (or fear depending on perspective) of another 2010/1947/1968 event.

Events around the hurricane season in the Atlantic will have a big say in our fate this winter. We want an active season.

I think that you would probably be better off starting a new thread for the next season.

As it is, on some other message boards the environmentalists are wetting themselves with the minimum sea Ice extent figures right now, looking for evidence that the "Ice free by 2020" model is still on track (which it isn't).


PS I'm not a mod on this forum.

Lumi

Mod note
Start a new thread for 2014/15 Kermit.de.frog
No need to revive a four year old zombie thread. We have a new snow/ice thread every year