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300-400 Irish travellers in illegal British campsite: should they be evicted?

  • 24-08-2011 11:46am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭


    The deadline for the 300-400 Irish traveller families living on an illegal campsite in Basildon, Essex is seven days away: if they have not left by 31 August they will be evicted. Many travellers have been offered alternative accommodation, and the cost of the clean-up after them is expected to reach £9.5 million.

    Over on The Irish Times this afternoon it seems that Amnesty International has stepped in asking for the eviction to be stopped: Call to halt travellers' UK eviction.

    I can't imagine Amnesty being inundated with donations from that locality now. Anyway, there is some 1000 travellers living in the campsite, which is divided into a legal and illegal section. It is the largest traveller camp in Britain and is known as Dale Farm (cue remedial jokes about ice cream).

    Dale Farm Travellers' Camp


    Do you think they should be forcibly removed from the site if they refuse to leave it by 31 August?

    Should the travellers be forcibly removed from the site if they refuse to leave it? 39 votes

    No, they own the land and should be allowed to use it as they wish
    0%
    Yes, they are taking the piss and should abide by the same planning laws as everybody else
    100%
    wesDingChavezmeditraitorctrl-alt-deletemdebetsup for anythingjonnyfingerscoxy14foxshooter243mookishboy1635barryCathaoirleachRayMTeyla EmmaganLEHrockmongrel[Deleted User]TheSpecialOneMin[Deleted User] 39 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭FatherLen


    yes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    absolutely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 100 ✭✭Paarse Krokodil


    No, they might come back to Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,610 ✭✭✭Padraig Mor


    **** them out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    God i hope they dont come back to Ireland


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,333 ✭✭✭gaz wac


    For such a big group of Travellers, they sure aint doing alot of travelling !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    They're not being turfed out just for a laugh. The place isn't suitable for accommodating so many people. If they want to stay they should go through the proper channels and ensure that they adhere to council regulations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    They should be allowed to stay as they'll probably come back over here and do whatever it is they do...which we all know but arent allowed to say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Dionysus wrote: »
    and the cost of the clean-up after them is expected to reach £9.5 million.

    They're just misunderstood.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Blast them with soapy water.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 882 ✭✭✭LondonIrish90


    The key word in the thread title being illegal, so yes they should definately be evicted.

    No matter how ignorant of the law they are, it still applies to them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    I hope the Government over there have the balls to evict them. Remember a few years ago when we had to pay travellers to get off council property?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    They're not being turfed out just for a laugh. The place isn't suitable for accommodating so many people. If they want to stay they should go through the proper channels and ensure that they adhere to council regulations.

    This is travellers we are talking about here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    No, they might come back to Ireland.

    most 'irish' travellers in the uk have hardly been to ireland in the first place. they are so cut off from the rest of the community (more or less self imposed) that they just keep the irish accents that their ancestors had.

    and yes, they should be evicted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 158 ✭✭Opelfruit


    Dionysus wrote: »
    It is the largest traveller camp in Britain and is known as Dale Farm (cue remedial jokes about ice cream).
    "I could murder a Fat Frog", said Padraig Nally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,953 ✭✭✭aujopimur


    Where's the key to my bulldozer, I'm on my way to help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Opelfruit wrote: »
    "I could murder a Fat Frog", said Padraig Nally.

    Creative! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    orourkeda wrote: »
    This is travellers we are talking about here.

    Aye, but believe it or not; many of them do comply with the wishes of town councils and police etc. There's plenty of legal halting sites in the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,673 ✭✭✭mahamageehad


    If it's an illegal place and other UK citizens would be turfed out then these travellers should also be evicted!

    I hate the hypocrisy of most of the people who defend travellers- one the one hand they want them to have ever right any other citizen has, on the other hand they want to rules to be bent to suit them. fück em out i say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Absolutely. Evict any in an illegal position.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭cocoshovel


    Of course....as long as they don't come back here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    I can't see any reason not to evict.

    Was anybody on AH really going to speak up for them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    They're not being turfed out just for a laugh. The place isn't suitable for accommodating so many people. If they want to stay they should go through the proper channels and ensure that they adhere to council regulations.


    Doesn't look too bad?

    It's the Sheridan clan of travellers that own the plot. It's the other 86 families living there are the issue, living in an unauthorized site.

    Just because they're Travellers doesn't mean they're above the law.
    They were givin a chance to get alternative accommodation for them and they balls that up. Turf them out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    "Sure they had nowhere to go, society refused them".

    *pulls radio power cable out of wall*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    Isn't that where Paddy Doherty lives?

    He could move the rest of his family into the Big Brother house :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭dax121


    i heard of a farmer go into a field full of pikies with his tractor, slurry tank and shot gun beside him. tells the boys hey im spreading slurrry id advise ye to move on. they shouting at him you cant do that boss. farmer replys it my field ill do what i want.
    turns on the slurry tank and the pikies move on their way with all their stuff. class :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    dax121 wrote: »
    i heard of a farmer go into a field full of pikies with his tractor, slurry tank and shot gun beside him. tells the boys hey im spreading slurrry id advise ye to move on. they shouting at him you cant do that boss. farmer replys it my field ill do what i want.
    turns on the slurry tank and the pikies move on their way with all their stuff. class :D

    I'd be surprised if some of them left only with their own stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,239 ✭✭✭KittyeeTrix


    Opelfruit wrote: »
    "I could murder a Fat Frog", said Padraig Nally.

    Hehe........ Brilliant!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Doesn't look too bad?

    Nice use of technology there, ya nosy fecker. :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Doesn't look too bad?

    It's the Sheridan clan of travellers that own the plot. It's the other 86 families living there are the issue, living in an unauthorized site.

    Just because they're Travellers doesn't mean they're above the law.
    They were givin a chance to get alternative accommodation for them and they balls that up. Turf them out.

    Doesn't look too bad at all there. I remember seeing a program about the place a couple of years ago and it looked squalid. But yeah, they don't have permission to be there and are quite rightly going to be evicted. I dunno why it took 10 years.. I can understand their reluctance to leave after being there for so long, but it's their own doing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    No. I think they should be allowed to stay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭twistedsoul




    im sure they will settle it as they normally do the nice people that they are !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭UglyBolloxFace


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    No. I think they should be allowed to stay.

    World's greatest troll.

    Do a 180 from the opinion of the vast majority, just to get a reaction.

    All hail the WGT!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭UglyBolloxFace




    im sure they will settle it as they normally do the nice people that they are !

    Why was this film made? Fair enough if it was a documentary about the fighting and its history, but that looks like it's glorifying the traveller fighting.

    Bunch of inbred cunts.
    Mod note:user banned for this remark


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Leave them there, The British left their settlers in this country so let them deal with the Travellers.:rolleyes: Its our revenge.:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭flutered


    dax121 wrote: »
    i heard of a farmer go into a field full of pikies with his tractor, slurry tank and shot gun beside him. tells the boys hey im spreading slurrry id advise ye to move on. they shouting at him you cant do that boss. farmer replys it my field ill do what i want.
    turns on the slurry tank and the pikies move on their way with all their stuff. class :D

    you have the story wrong op, it happened outside the village of emly co. tipp, not far from where i live, there was a campsite on the roardside, also some local people were having some grief, a farmer bloke spreading slurry accidently spread some over the fence on to the campsite, he ended up in court and fined, the travellers moved pretty sharply tho, btw he did not have a shotgun on the tractor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭twistedsoul


    Why was this film made? Fair enough if it was a documentary about the fighting and its history, but that looks like it's glorifying the traveller fighting.

    Bunch of inbred cunts.

    i did waste my time and watch the movie and thats exactly what it does is glorify them !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    No. I think they should be allowed to stay.

    World's greatest troll.

    Do a 180 from the opinion of the vast majority, just to get a reaction.

    All hail the WGT!
    They have nowhere else to go. Hince why they should stay IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭UglyBolloxFace


    Actually, do these Travellors have Irish or British citizenship? If British, then we've nothing to worry about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    I had this row with my mother a while back- I refuse to see Travellers as a seperate "race" to the rest of us. I respect traditions among groups of people in society etc (people from different places around Ireland have very different traditions when it comes to Xmas/weddings/births etc) and have no problems at all with them. But those people, while proud of their heritage, still intergrate with society, pay their taxes, contribute in some positive way to their communities and others'.

    Travellers (on the whole) don't do any of the above. They use the facade of "culture/heritage" to be leaches on society, to contribute little or nothing and to basically give the finger to every hard-working tax payer in the country.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭CucaFace


    we'll do a trade, we take them back, and they take all the Roma gypsies

    You know what id be happier if we kept the Roma gypsies and got shot of every single 'Irish' Traveller that is living here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    Hitler had the right idea. 'I think I'll go to Vienna and become an artist.' He made a balls of that however and instead ended up trying to wipe out an entire ethnic group. Just sayin'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,674 ✭✭✭Dangerous Man


    Doesn't look too bad?

    It's the Sheridan clan of travellers that own the plot. It's the other 86 families living there are the issue, living in an unauthorized site.

    Just because they're Travellers doesn't mean they're above the law.
    They were givin a chance to get alternative accommodation for them and they balls that up. Turf them out.


    I just love what they've done with the place.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭loveisdivine


    I have to say the "Irish" travellers in England are much worse than travellers I have encountered here in Ireland.

    They used to piss me right off when I was growing up. Everytime we went to the cinema the gits would cut to the front of the line past everyone, and nobody dare say anything, even the cinema staff. They basically run a muck and everyone was too scared to say anything. It happened everywhere, they would come into a shop/pub and just trash the place and got away with it.

    They always left their crap on the side of the road when they moved on from one patch of grass to another.


    Definately evict them! Blast them into outer space!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    £95m? The clean up is going to cost approx £95k per traveller?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 483 ✭✭baltimore sun


    i dont give a flyin f€ck if they're evicted, so long as they aren't sent back here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    smash wrote: »
    £95m? The clean up is going to cost approx £95k per traveller?

    9 . 5 m... nine and a half. Not 95.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Why are they Irish?

    The site has been there for decades and children born locally. Born in England makes them English, no?

    You're like the Daily Mail OP, every single traveller in the world is Irish it seems
    Even people born in England are told to go back to Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭dax121


    flutered wrote: »
    you have the story wrong op, it happened outside the village of emly co. tipp, not far from where i live, there was a campsite on the roardside, also some local people were having some grief, a farmer bloke spreading slurry accidently spread some over the fence on to the campsite, he ended up in court and fined, the travellers moved pretty sharply tho, btw he did not have a shotgun on the tractor.
    maybe the farmer down my way heard about that and done it his own way :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭mawk



    They basically run a muck and everyone...


    Definately evict them! Blast them into outer space!

    Amok is the word.

    Also, "travellers in space" sounds like something hanna barbarra would have animated in the 70s. I'd watch that.
    How much for the bilithium crystals boss?? I'll give ya a space dag!


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