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flyswatter

Jhcx wrote: »

Why are irish people just full of doom and gloom and so bloody depressive. no wonder why im always so unhappy the negativity is unreal. i mean everybody is focused on the cinema killing but nobody cares that a shooting/killing has been prevented. Some ppl make me sick. And you cant blame me for not caring. cause i do care but i have to live on. cant be stuck on this depression level.

I saw your thread in AH there.

The first thing you said was "All the more reason why its good to have a gun."

You couldn't have chosen a worse day to open with a line like that given what happened in Colorado.

And I definitely disagree with that statement given America's gun control laws are more than a bit responsible for so many unfortunate incidents over the years.

jefreywithonef

Jhcx wrote: »

Why are irish people just full of doom and gloom and so bloody depressive. no wonder why im always so unhappy the negativity is unreal. i mean everybody is focused on the cinema killing but nobody cares that a shooting/killing has been prevented. Some ppl make me sick. And you cant blame me for not caring. cause i do care but i have to live on. cant be stuck on this depression level.

Bearing in mind the amount of people who needlessly die every day I'd argue that the depression level as you call it isn't great enough tbh.

Lawliet

flyswatter wrote: »

You couldn't have chosen a worse day to open with a line like that given what happened in Colorado.

Yeah that really was in poor taste

Jhcx

flyswatter wrote: »

I saw your thread in AH there.

The first thing you said was "All the more reason why its good to have a gun."

You couldn't have chosen a worse day to open with a line like that given what happened in Colorado.

And I definitely disagree with that statement given America's gun control laws are more than a bit responsible for so many unfortunate incidents over the years.

Not just that got into an argument today at home about irish ppl. Like my whole family and everyone i know is just doom and gloom, im dropping out of college because my family and their negativity. I may be Irish but i seem to have this view that i can see them as an outsider. Just going into a shop now days is horrible cause you hear ppl giving out about the weather saying 'its never going to be right we wont see the sun for a long time' or this recession will never end. I near almost hate to go anywhere last few days because i cant handle it. Just wish ppl could be positive like oh its going to be sunny today and if it should happen to rain in the evening dont go on about it or the dole or the loss of jobs or Mary loosing her foot so that she will never walk again. I used to be so positive once but now im just turning into a zombie and following the leader. Something i was not born to do. Even the english have said it to me and it has made me question is it true. i used to say no there lovely ppl very happy out always having a laugh. now its, ya i suppose that true. I may have had a poor choice of words for my thread but i dont take sides. Im not for or against guns(yet) but i tried to give some positivity though preparation on wording could have been better. But i did expect to get abuse back about guns.

Namlub

Jhcx wrote: »

Not just that got into an argument today at home about irish ppl. Like my whole family and everyone i know is just doom and gloom, im dropping out of college because my family and their negativity. I may be Irish but i seem to have this view that i can see them as an outsider. Just going into a shop now days is horrible cause you hear ppl giving out about the weather saying 'its never going to be right we wont see the sun for a long time' or this recession will never end. I near almost hate to go anywhere last few days because i cant handle it. Just wish ppl could be positive like oh its going to be sunny today and if it should happen to rain in the evening dont go on about it or the dole or the loss of jobs or Mary loosing her foot so that she will never walk again. I used to be so positive once but now im just turning into a zombie and following the leader. Something i was not born to do. Even the english have said it to me and it has made me question is it true. i used to say no there lovely ppl very happy out always having a laugh. now its, ya i suppose that true. I may have had a poor choice of words for my thread but i dont take sides. Im not for or against guns(yet) but i tried to give some positivity though preparation on wording could have been better. But i did expect to get abuse back about guns.

None of that explains why you started the thread tbh

PseudoFamous

Namlub wrote: »

None of that explains why you started the thread tbh

None of it even makes sense, to be blunt.

Jhcx

Namlub wrote: »

None of that explains why you started the thread tbh

oh... Ok. Started that thread because I felt the man should get some credit for at least standing upto the thugs. I felt what he done was right and fair play to him. He could have got shot but survived. I didn't think at the time of posting it about the cinema shooting. Even though i had just watched it on the news. Wasn't interested u could say. just dont want to be reading about the horror. just been getting few updates on the situation , said to few ppl its horrible to know there are sick ppl out there willing to do such a thing.. but haven't really Been following what's going on.

And don't say to me what about all the other ppl who stand up to thugs but get no credit. I just happened to come across that video I I was impressed by what happened I wanted to share it. And due to bad wording it has blown up in my face

flyswatter

Jhcx wrote: »

oh... Ok. Started that thread because I felt the man should get some credit for at least standing upto the thugs. I felt what he done was right and fair play to him. He could have got shot but survived. I didn't think at the time of posting it about the cinema shooting. Even though i had just watched it on the news. Wasn't interested u could say. just dont want to be reading about the horror. just been getting few updates on the situation , said to few ppl its horrible to know there are sick ppl out there willing to do such a thing.. but haven't really Been following what's going on.

And don't say to me what about all the other ppl who stand up to thugs but get no credit. I just happened to come across that video I I was impressed by what happened I wanted to share it. And due to bad wording it has blown up in my face

I can't speak for her but I'm guessing she could be questioning why you are drawing the mood of the nation surrounding the recession over here into something irrelevant to that like a man shooting armed robbers in Florida?

Slow Show

Jhcx wrote: »

oh... Ok. Started that thread because I felt the man should get some credit for at least standing upto the thugs. I felt what he done was right and fair play to him.

I think it was a really stupid thing to do and the guy deserves next to no credit. In real life, when it comes to things like armed robberies, you sit down, let them take what they want, and let someone with the proper authority (i.e the police) do something about it. Like they could get away with it, and it's pretty shit losing material possessions but it could be worse....I mean, that could've ended so badly, it could have escalated into crazy gunfire where the chances of an innocent person not getting injured/killed are fairly slim...

I dunno, this whole cinema shooting situation has reminded me just how much the gun laws in the USA irk me...

Jhcx

Slow Show wrote: »

I think it was a really stupid thing to do and the guy deserves next to no credit. In real life, when it comes to things like armed robberies, you sit down, let them take what they want, and let someone with the proper authority (i.e the police) do something about it. Like they could get away with it, and it's pretty shit losing material possessions but it could be worse....I mean, that could've ended so badly, it could have escalated into crazy gunfire where the chances of an innocent person not getting injured/killed are fairly slim...

I dunno, this whole cinema shooting situation has reminded me just how much the gun laws in the USA irk me...

I know it could have turned it to something worse. but it didnt. the news reported that he shot at them and in the end they ended up caught. so its your opinion to say its stupid i think it was brave. and imo if i was in that building i think i would have hugged the man because as much as stuff getting taken is not a major issue the fact someone in the building could have done something stupid and a shooting broke out he got their first and hunted them out of the building. I would be thankful

@flyswatter Didnt mean to bring the 2 of them together. im just more sick of the negativity is what my post was about. but i somehow brought the 2 together. and hope your not referring to me as a she or that will be the first insult i have got so far this year.

Lawliet

Being a woman is insulting?

flyswatter

I was referring to Namlub.

Jhcx

Lawliet wrote: »

Being a woman is insulting?

flyswatter wrote: »

I was referring to Namlub.

Not being a woman being called a woman. specially when i get enough abuse at home and im a guy.

Fair enough i apologize for the confusion.

JamJamJamJam

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Togepi

@Jhcx (I have no idea about gun laws in USA, or the recent cinema shooting(s), and haven't read your thread in AH, but) in response to your post here about Irish people focusing on the negative - I hate that about the Irish people. Like, we're just addicted to bad news. A lot of the time, people have told me of someone dying tragically somewhere, when I never knew the person, anyone they knew, or even the place they were from. It just puts a sad thought in my mind, when otherwise I'd have been blissfully unaware. I don't see what good it is for me to hear of someone dying. It's just depressing. It's not just that, but no one spreads good news. You never hear of someone who has a lucky escape from death, but if they die then you'll be very likely to hear it. Why do so many people love to share bad news? Some people hear a tragic story, and spend the next few hours asking everyone they meet if they've heard the horrible news. Then everyone else feels worse after hearing the news. It's just spreading negativity.

/rant in which I have probably come across as an arse but I really dislike hearing bad news unnecessarily.

Canard

Wh...whats this? A shiny, new OT thread in which I see Togepi! :pac:
(And probably other LCers but icba reading back :P)
Hi

Lawliet

Jhcx wrote: »

Not being a woman being called a woman. specially when i get enough abuse at home and im a guy.

And why is being called a woman an insult?

Salty

Lawliet wrote: »

And why is being called a woman an insult?

To be fair, no woman would like to be called "manly". It's the same principle.

Lawliet

_meehan_ wrote: »

To be fair, no woman would like to be called "manly". It's the same principle.

It's not really though, think about it; throws like a girl, whines like bitch, such a pussy. Then there's man up, grow a pair. Being compared to a woman means you're weak, whiny and incompetent, being compared to a man means you're tough, strong and capable. Women don't want to look like men, but personality wise a lot of women would rather be 'one of the lads' than be mistaken for the shallow bitches society has us all convinced we are. For a woman, acting like a guy is a good thing, but a guy acting like a girl? That's just degrading!

JamJamJamJam

Lawliet wrote: »

It's not really though, think about it; throws like a girl, whines like bitch, such a pussy. Then there's man up, grow a pair. Being compared to a woman means you're weak, whiny and incompetent, being compared to a man means you're tough, strong and capable. Women don't want to look like men, but personality wise a lot of women would rather be 'one of the lads' than be mistaken for the shallow bitches society has us all convinced we are. For a woman, acting like a guy is a good thing, but a guy acting like a girl? That's just degrading!

Hmmm... In another way being compared to a man also means a person is hairy, smelly, vulgar, brutish, possibly quite rude, emotionally withdrawn/inept, bombastic, etc. For a woman to act like that is considered unacceptable. I reckon each "insult" is as discomforting as the other.



Freedom for emotional men and flatulant women!!

Togepi

Patchy~ wrote: »

Wh...whats this? A shiny, new OT thread in which I see Togepi! :pac:
(And probably other LCers but icba reading back :P)
Hi

You would have to show up when I'm in the middle of a ~4am rant! :P Welcomes, you should totes start posting in C&H more, c'est génial.

And yeah there's a few more of us around the forum, but we tend not to post here about how our exams went one month after they've finished. :P

Lawliet

JamJamJamJam wrote: »

Hmmm... In another way being compared to a man also means a person is hairy, smelly, vulgar, brutish, possibly quite rude, emotionally withdrawn/inept, bombastic, etc. For a woman to act like that is considered unacceptable. I reckon each "insult" is as discomforting as the other.

That can be a comparison, but it rarely is, my point is female as an insult is way more common than male as an insult. I can think of so many example, both in media and IRL of men being "insulted" by being called a girl, I can barely think of any where it was the other way around. All those things you mention, if a girl is those she's called a feminazi, a lesbian, a bitch etc. there's a whole range of female specific insults you can get though before you'd call them a man, but with men it's female or gay insults that seem to be the first port of call.

wnolan1992

Lawliet wrote: »

That can be a comparison, but it rarely is, my point is female as an insult is way more common than male as an insult. I can think of so many example, both in media and IRL of men being "insulted" by being called a girl, I can barely think of any where it was the other way around. All those things you mention, if a girl is those she's called a feminazi, a lesbian, a bitch etc. there's a whole range of female specific insults you can get though before you'd call them a man, but with men it's female or gay insults that seem to be the first port of call.

They're the first port of call because from an early age it's ingrained in our mind that to be effeminate is bad. How often will you see a mother or father with their son in a park who falls and skins their knee saying "Shhh it's all right, ah come on now, big boys don't cry!"

If, for arguments sake, a boy was to even look at a Barbie doll or similar toy, they'd be laughed at and immediately ushered to the section where all the big tough army figures and guns are.

From what I've seen, if girls act masculine at a young age (Tom-boy-ish for lack of a better description), it's seen as a novelty and cute by parents.

I'm not defending this attitude, personally I think it's idiotic, but it's just become a societal norm.

jefreywithonef

On a (slightly) similar note, I really dislike the phrase "treat like an animal", used to criticise people for brutish or violent behaviour ("(s)he treated me like an animal!"). It implies that this kind of action is acceptable only against animals, which to my mind - and I'm no PETA activist or anything - is a tad wrong.

Davidius

JamJamJamJam wrote: »

Freedom for emotional men and flatulant women!!

Now enough of this emotional men talk. You can have feelings if you want and you can express them when something is genuinely upsetting. However g'way with all this ridiculous crying at films and soccer matches nonsense.

Jhcx

Davidius wrote: »

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However g'way with all this ridiculous crying at films and soccer matches nonsense.

Men cry at football matches? :eek:

Sorry, genuinely never known of that only ever been to 2 matches in my life each time, a riot broke out.

wnolan1992

Davidius wrote: »

Now enough of this emotional men talk. You can have feelings if you want and you can express them when something is genuinely upsetting. However g'way with all this ridiculous crying at films and soccer matches nonsense.

Hey, I will unashamedly admit to crying at the end of this years Premier League. Having to go from having no hope, to hopeful, to thinking you've won, to worried, to heartbroken in the space of 90 minutes is emotional stuff.

Although some fans take it to a wholly more disturbing level, like the Toon fans who cry at every game with their shirts off.

Davidius

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Hey, I will unashamedly admit to crying at the end of this years Premier League. Having to go from having no hope, to hopeful, to thinking you've won, to worried, to heartbroken in the space of 90 minutes is emotional stuff.

Shameful stuff altogether.

Pigwidgeon

I just found the cutest little west highland terrier and I can't get through to the number on his collar. I've brought him home for the night and he's so cute. Hopefully I can get him home soon enough!

JamJamJamJam

Lawliet wrote: »

That can be a comparison, but it rarely is, my point is female as an insult is way more common than male as an insult. I can think of so many example, both in media and IRL of men being "insulted" by being called a girl, I can barely think of any where it was the other way around. All those things you mention, if a girl is those she's called a feminazi, a lesbian, a bitch etc. there's a whole range of female specific insults you can get though before you'd call them a man, but with men it's female or gay insults that seem to be the first port of call.

Oh female as an insult is probably more commonly used alright! I just meant that being described as masculine or feminine are considered equally offensive.

Davidius wrote: »

Now enough of this emotional men talk. You can have feelings if you want and you can express them when something is genuinely upsetting. However g'way with all this ridiculous crying at films and soccer matches nonsense.

Someone obviously hasn't seen A Walk to Remember. That's some upsetting **** right there.