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Greenways [greenway map of Ireland in post 1]

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    The preferred route for the Athlone to Galway section of the national coast to coast greenway has been announced.

    The Athlone to Galway stretch will run through Shannonbridge, Loughrea, Craughwell, Clarinbridge and Oranmore and along the coast into Galway city.

    Minister Leo Varadkar made the announcement at the formal opening of the latest section of the greenway at Castleknock in Dublin today.

    Speaking at the event he says he is taking an incremental approach to building the greenway, building one section at a time as funding is allocated.

    A 40 kilometer section between Mullingar and Athlone will be completed next year following the allocation of 4 million euro in funding by Junior Transport Minister Alan Kelly.

    Two further sections in Kildare and Meath totalling 40 kilometers are at shovel-ready stage and work will being as soon as more funding becomes available.
    link


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    Shannonbridge? :confused:


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    There's a short new greenwayin Rathfarnham linking St Enda's to Loreto Park. Just less than a kilometre long. It seems to be quite popular and is well suited for kids riding their bikes safely. There's also talk of it being connected to the River Slang greenway.


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    Shannonbridge? :confused:

    It must go from Athlone to Clonmacnoise and cross the Shannon there,
    There's lots of boreen and BnaM land to get to Shannonbridge
    There's probably some likelihood of conneccting Athlone to the grand canal


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    Aard wrote: »
    There's a short new greenwayin Rathfarnham linking St Enda's to Loreto Park. Just less than a kilometre long. It seems to be quite popular and is well suited for kids riding their bikes safely. There's also talk of it being connected to the River Slang greenway.

    Map??


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    Map??

    It's located here:

    attachment.php?attachmentid=314437&stc=1&d=1405268801

    Google Maps doesn't have the updated satellite image.


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    It must go from Athlone to Clonmacnoise and cross the Shannon there,
    There's lots of boreen and BnaM land to get to Shannonbridge
    There's probably some likelihood of conneccting Athlone to the grand canal

    The preferred route is to cross the Shannon at Athlone, with a new dedicated bridge in between the Town Bridge and the White Bridge.


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    whyulittle wrote: »
    The preferred route is to cross the Shannon at Athlone, with a new dedicated bridge in between the Town Bridge and the White Bridge.

    Then to quote Zubeneschamali
    "Shannonbridge?:confused:"


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    We are setting up a greenway for Naas called Naas Neighbourhood Greenway and we are going to connect all schools and clubs to all estates with an traffic free cycle/pedestrian route.
    More info at naasneighbourhoodgreenway on Facebook
    We have received funding to start and will commence it in April 15 along the canal towpath that passes try Naas.
    Cyclist.ie were a great help to us and these are the basic steps to getting a small or big project going
    1. photo graph your plan from the ground and with google maps
    2. put it into a document saying what you want.Keep it simple but tarmac is a must at 4m wide ,2m for cyclist and 2m for walkers.
    3.get onto your local municipal councillors , they will love this as its a ribbon cutting project
    4 Brand it and give it a name.
    5 get it done councillors will get money somewhere
    .


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    Kerry Co Co going to CPO land for a greenway along the old rail line from Glenbeigh to Caherciveen

    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/kerry-council-fails-to-agree-deal-with-landowners-on-tourist-trail-311637.html
    de paper wrote:
    The 27km greenway for cyclists and walkers will cross scenic terrain while some sections will run parallel to the Ring of Kerry route. It will also skirt hillsides, commanding spectacular views of Dingle Bay and the Iveragh Peninsula.

    CPO documentation and environmental impact statements are due to be submitted to An Bord Pleanála by June, to be followed by public consultation and an oral planning hearing in the autumn. An ABP decision is expected in December.

    10/120 landowners holding out.


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    Kerry Co Co going to CPO land for a greenway along the old rail line from Glenbeigh to Caherciveen
    http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/kerry-council-fails-to-agree-deal-with-landowners-on-tourist-trail-311637.html
    10/120 landowners holding out.
    Cllr Michael Cahill, however, voiced disappointment a deal could not be reached with all the landowners and said there was a “strong desire” among some for a small, annual, payment in return for maintaining the greenway.
    “There’s a huge amount of requests for this: It would generate phenomenal goodwill and help get people on side,” he added.
    Mr Sheehy replied there was no provision in the CPO process for an annual payment.
    This is hilarious - these guys are going to want rent for land they'll no longer own :eek: ... My God - the mind boggles.

    OK, to be fair - for the payment, they're going to "maintain" the greenway. My arse they will. But I would have concerns that people with that mentality might "unmaintain" the greenway if they don't get a payment ...


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    serfboard wrote: »
    But I would have concerns that people with that mentality might "unmaintain" the greenway if they don't get a payment ...

    They shoot Hen Harriers, don't they? :cool:


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    Anyone know if this greenway in Wicklow is going ahead, haven’t read anything recently about it.

    http://www.wicklownews.net/2014/04/major-rural-cycle-greenway-planned-for-wicklow/


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    From the Limerick Leader:
    IRELAND’S first and original greenway, the Great Southern Trail, is being ignored by the Minister responsible and by his staff, the chairman of the trail group, Liam O’Mahony has claimed.

    The Great Southern Trail Ltd ... has been trying to meet Minister Donohue since last January. In the run-up to the Minister’s sod-turning visit to Barna and to the agm of West Limerick Tourism on Februray 16, the GST again contacted the Minister’s office but no meeting ensued.

    And then last month, the group asked to be included in a proposed two-visit by the Minister to Kerry.

    Yet, Mr O’Mahony said, despite a number of emails asking about an appointment, they were given none. In fact, he added, having been promised that somebody would be in touch, all communication stopped.

    “This is a kick in the teeth for us,” Mr O’Mahony said. “He seems to have no interest in meeting us which is quite strange considering we have been working on this for 25 years.”

    ... a spokesman for the Department of Transport, Tourism and Sport ... said "On Minister Donohoe’s visit to Kerry, Cork and Clare earlier in March, the Kerry itinerary was organised by Minister of State Jimmy Deenihan."

    ... Mr O’Mahony is ... unhappy at the lack of progress made in completing the Kerry section of the trail and wants Minister Donohue to intervene to get the project moving. The Kerry section had been “put on the long finger” he said, and this was in sharp contrast with the actions of Waterford City and County Council which is planning to have a 30-mile Deise Greenway up and running in the next 15 months.
    Jimmy Deenihan running scared of land-grabbing farmers. Disgraceful, but not surprising, behaviour by one of our elected representatives.


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    Any hope of the proposed Dodder greenway getting the go ahead? Would be a superb amenity if it did.


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    padrepio wrote: »
    Any hope of the proposed Dodder greenway getting the go ahead? Would be a superb amenity if it did.

    Any links to a map of this proposal?


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    serfboard wrote: »
    From the Limerick Leader:
    Jimmy Deenihan running scared of land-grabbing farmers. Disgraceful, but not surprising, behaviour by one of our elected representatives.
    Is there still people down there obstructing the route? The State really need to take this all the way in terms of court proceedings in order to establish a legal precedence on the matter. From other reading on this site which I assume to be true, the land has to be formally abandoned by way of Act of Parliament before adverse possession can occur because statute law trumps common law, this needs to be tested. If the courts find in favour of the state then the thieving feckers can be turfed out, if the court upholds the adverse possession then another approach is needed. Either way, the true standing of the ownership of such unused railway lines needs to be established in order to avoid the kind of posturing and resulting inaction we are seeing on the GST. It would be money well spent if you ask me.
    padrepio wrote: »
    Any hope of the proposed Dodder greenway getting the go ahead? Would be a superb amenity if it did.
    SDCC recently sought Project Management and Environmental Consultancy Services so hopefully the project will be going ahead soon; http://www.mytenders.ie/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=AUG417892
    Any links to a map of this proposal?
    The SDCC website refers to the project in numerous places but doesnt seem to have drawings anywhere. The best I could find is this; http://irishcycle.com/2014/09/28/mapped-planned-river-dodder-greenway/


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    Pete_Cavan wrote: »
    Is there still people down there obstructing the route? The State really need to take this all the way in terms of court proceedings in order to establish a legal precedence on the matter. From other reading on this site which I assume to be true, the land has to be formally abandoned by way of Act of Parliament before adverse possession can occur because statute law trumps common law, this needs to be tested. If the courts find in favour of the state then the thieving feckers can be turfed out, if the court upholds the adverse possession then another approach is needed. Either way, the true standing of the ownership of such unused railway lines needs to be established in order to avoid the kind of posturing and resulting inaction we are seeing on the GST. It would be money well spent if you ask me.

    SDCC recently sought Project Management and Environmental Consultancy Services so hopefully the project will be going ahead soon; http://www.mytenders.ie/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=AUG417892

    The SDCC website refers to the project in numerous places but doesnt seem to have drawings anywhere. The best I could find is this; http://irishcycle.com/2014/09/28/mapped-planned-river-dodder-greenway/

    Would it be totally off the wall to just send in the diggers and let the squatters apply for an injunction if they think they have a case?


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    You should check out greenway that is currently under construction in County Waterford. Around 40km connecting Waterford City and Dungarvan. Sections due to be open this Summer with overall path open in Summer 2016. Looks really impressive. Check out deisegreenway.com or on Facebook for pictures.


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    hardCopy wrote: »
    Would it be totally off the wall to just send in the diggers and let the squatters apply for an injunction if they think they have a case?
    Exactly, CIE should still have title over the unused railways, if they permit the development of a greenway on the alignment, whatever other approvals are obtained and funding is in place then construction should progress. If adjoining land owners wish to claim squatters rights/adverse possession then let them at it. The state should fight it all the way through the courts until we have a definitive outcome. At least that way greenway promoters would know exactly where they stand and if they have to deal with these bogmen. Where CoCos have given planning permission for development on the line it is probably a more difficult case to win.
    You should check out greenway that is currently under construction in County Waterford. Around 40km connecting Waterford City and Dungarvan. Sections due to be open this Summer with overall path open in Summer 2016. Looks really impressive. Check out deisegreenway.com or on Facebook for pictures.
    The Deise Greenway looks to be progressing very well with funding having been given for two sections (in typical Irish fashion these two sections are at opposite ends of the trail leaving a huge gap between them). They will be doing very well to get the whole thing open in Summer 2016. Hopefully we will see it completed soon and it can be held up as another example of the benefits greenways can bring. It would be great to see it extended both to the east to Rosslare and west eventually to Cork.


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    If you could get the Rosslare to Waterford line greenway'd it'd be a huge tourism draw for ferry traffic, to be able to tour straight ( well almost) off the boat.

    Add in New Ross line too.


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    Add in New Ross line too.

    It's a pity they let the railway line at Waterford fall in the river!


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    If you could get the Rosslare to Waterford line greenway'd it'd be a huge tourism draw for ferry traffic, to be able to tour straight ( well almost) off the boat.

    Add in New Ross line too.

    Waterford to New Ross goes to planning in the next few months, it's hoped to have it finished in mid 2016.

    The Waterford Dungarvan route was funded by two separate pots of money...the eastern section by a stimulus fund, the western section by the National Cycling Network. The good thing is that it puts enormous pressure on finishing the middle section and the council look determined to finish it.

    A small show of ownership by CIE (even once a year) would have kicked most of these adverse possession claims to touch. One landmark case resulting in financial ruin of a squatter will put an end to this behaviour.

    The travesty of it all is that in the meantime, it's possible/likely that a large chunk of the 2014-2016 NCN funding will be unused and the 30 odd other shovel-ready projects around the country will have lost out, along with the thousands of people who want to walk and cycle them.


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    It's a pity they let the railway line at Waterford fall in the river!
    The Dungarvan line above the draw bridge?
    Was that not on purpose when the drawbridge was built/rail line closed?


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    It's a pity they let the railway line at Waterford fall in the river!

    Not sure where this is. If you mean the gap in the iron bridge that sits between the two road bridges in Waterford City, this piece was deliberately removed to allow ships go upriver. The missing piece is on the riverbank nearby as can be seen here.

    Even if this bridge was intact and deemed greenway-safe (which would cost a fair bit), it'd only bring you directly from the Dungarvan-Waterford greenway onto an active railway.


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    Not sure where this is. If you mean the gap in the iron bridge that sits between the two road bridges in Waterford City, this piece was deliberately removed to allow ships go upriver. The missing piece is on the riverbank nearby as can be seen here.

    That is the one I'm talking about. But there are no alternative bridges for a greenway, are there?


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    No, theres only one bridge in Waterford city bikes can use, the drawbridge. There's only 2 bridges anyway, one is the "motorway" *

    Ships travel up to Fiddown, the next bridge over the Suir. So any bridge would have to open for navigation.

    I presume the greenway from Dungarvan is going to end near here

    Its narrow here to force any cycle infrastructure through


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    Looking at those photos it seems a board-walk type solution might be doable, albeit costly?


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    Anne Cassin did a short segment on the Dublin Greenways this evening on Nationwide. Sutton to Sandycove and the Dodder greenway were mentioned.


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    Nationwide (first part) on the Fenit/Tralee line in Co, Kerry for use as a greenway.

    http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/10412497/


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