irish gov give ANOTHER 500,000 to africa....

0O7

http://www.wlrfm.com/news-and-sport/national-news/83243-ireland-to-boost-kenya-aid-by-500000.html



what about us???? dont think our country can afford to give anything away

Jaafa

Thats disgraceful. How dare they give away money to the needy, sick and dying children. tut tut. For shame.

teol

This is bull****. Why not drop the trade barriers with Africa and then stop the foreign aid that does **** all.

orourkeda

We cant afford it but it persists.

I dont know why

7sr2z3fely84g5

Let the church do it instead,that will show them.

swiftblade

Bono sucks




That is all...

orourkeda

Jaafa wrote: »

Thats disgraceful. How dare they give away money to the needy, sick and dying children. tut tut. For shame.

If it works they may consider doing it here.

Saila

€500 000 is nothing, get over it

0O7

Jaafa wrote: »

Thats disgraceful. How dare they give away money to the needy, sick and dying children. tut tut. For shame.

they dont seem to give it to the needy here???

0O7

Saila wrote: »

€500 000 is nothing, get over it

another being the key word

aidan_walsh

rabble rabble feckin foreigners staying over there and taking all our money rabble

Eoin_Sheehy

Better that than giving another cent to bondholders.

Awful_Bliss

Until these countries stop squandering money they shouldn't get another penny.

Saila

0O7 wrote: »

another being the key word

what was the rest for this year?

Logical Fallacy

lol, Enda only sent it over to grease the wheels and get the 12million the original email told him about.

WindSock

Weh weh weh. Yeah we might have some problems but no one is ****ing starving to death here.

Jaafa

0O7 wrote: »

they dont seem to give it to the needy here???

Uh huh. So you never heard of the dole, child benefit, medical cards, rent allowance....oh wait I forgot all the foreigners are taking them.

El Weirdo

Awful_Bliss wrote: »

Until these countries stop squandering money they shouldn't get another penny.

But you're happy for us to take money from the likes of the Germans to bail out **** who took a few punts on our banks that went tits up?

thermo

i hope its coming out of the politicians pocket and not our own. its a disgrace sending money out of the country in this day and age.

whatdoicare

WindSock wrote: »

Weh weh weh. Yeah we might have some problems but no one is ****ing starving to death here.

According to st Vincent de Paul, alot of families are not far off it with one in eleven children living in consistent poverty.

WindSock

Awful_Bliss wrote: »

Until these countries stop squandering money they shouldn't get another penny.

Yeah yeah, in the meantime, let them eat cake.

Wtf is wrong with people? There are thousands dying and we're moaning about 500 poxy k being sent over. But no, let them die till Africa sorts out its problems.

0O7

Saila wrote: »

what was the rest for this year?

being honest im not sure of the total amount but i remember 3mil being given in feb.

now dont get me wrong, im all up for charity etc, i will give money if i have it, just imo i dont think our gov can justify giving it at their own accord, when alot of people, tax payers and hard working people are currently struggling to put food on their table or pay their mortgage etc.

WindSock

whatdoicare wrote: »

According to st Vincent de Paul, alot of families are not far off it with one in eleven children living in consistent poverty.

Poverty in Ireland today does not equal a famine.

7sr2z3fely84g5

0O7 wrote: »

being honest im not sure of the total amount but i remember 3mil being given in feb.

now dont get me wrong, im all up for charity etc, i will give money if i have it, just imo i dont think our gov can justify giving it at their own accord, when alot of people, tax payers and hard working people are currently struggling to put food on their table or pay their mortgage etc.

Agreed,there was fck all given to people who had their houses damaged during the last flash floods.





*even if some the houses where actually built in flood risk areas,something that FF ignored during the boom.

admiralofthefleet

Jaafa wrote: »

Thats disgraceful. How dare they give away money to the needy, sick and dying children. tut tut. For shame.

yeah the needy, sick and dying children in Ireland dont need it:rolleyes:

shamrockone

I think there is a world of difference between struggling and actual starvation.

laugh

The money is for water for human beings, we probably spend that much on soft drinks here in an hour.

Tehachapi

WindSock wrote: »

Yeah yeah, in the meantime, let them eat cake.

Wtf is wrong with people? There are thousands dying and we're moaning about 500 poxy k being sent over. But no, let them die till Africa sorts out its problems.

Yeah because the billions and billions we have been donating since the 80's have done them the world of good :rolleyes:

The problem people have is that money doesn't go to the cause. It goes to fund the charity board of director's new BMWs firstly, then to their ground-staff, then the adminstration/travel costs, then to african war-lords to buy weapons, then maybe a fraction of a percentage to the actual cause.

whatdoicare

WindSock wrote: »

Poverty in Ireland today does not equal a famine.

Poverty means people going hungry, have lack of adequate accommodation, heating, access to clean water, clothes, healthcare and education. This is what is happening here every day. The very same problems that the poorer in AAfrica are facing.
Having no food and water means having no food and water - no matter what way you look at it.

Mr. Presentable

It's not enough. The poor in this country are fabulously wealthy compared with the poor in most of the rest of the world.

If begrudgery and mealymouthedness could be currency we'd be rich right here in AH.

laugh

whatdoicare wrote: »

Having no food and water means having no food and water - no matter what way you look at it.

There is having no food and water and dying because of it and there is being malnourished because your ma smokes 40 Johnny Blue a day.

WindSock

Tehachapi wrote: »

Yeah because the billions and billions we have been donating since the 80's have done them the world of good :rolleyes:

The problem people have is that money doesn't go to the cause. It goes to fund the charity board of director's new BMWs firstly, then to their ground-staff, then the adminstration/travel costs, then to african war-lords to buy weapons, then maybe a fraction of a percentage to the actual cause.

Of course the money won't 'fix' Africa and yes there are many problems but that still doesn't mean it hasn't saved countless lives.

Do you know what percentage of our aid gets squandered?

The thing is, it is an emergency situation at the moment. And not a time to be humming and hawing about corruption.

Pete M.

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

yeah the needy, sick and dying children in Ireland dont need it:rolleyes:

There's billions being spent on sick and dying children over here.
But over there nearly every other child will die.
Imagine having to pick between two of your own kids which one was to be given up.

€500,000?

We should have sent €5,000,000,000.

The Government spend more on our secret service...

http://www.budget.gov.ie/budgets/2011/Documents/White%20paper%20English.pdf

If we can't, as a Nation, spare a bit of change, to help these poor wee bas'tards, then fcuk the lot of us.

Heartless, greedy, compassionless, money junkies who give na'er a fcuk about anybody but themselves.

Micky Dolenz

We have very little concept of absolute poverty in Ireland.

I feel we are morally bound to helping out those that are starving to death and far less off then ourselves. How this aid is distributed is important though.

whatdoicare

laugh wrote: »

There is having no food and water and dying because of it and there is being malnourished because your ma smokes 40 Johnny Blue a day.

That is not actually why children in Ireland are facing poverty - that is just an idea/image in your head - a disgusting one at that. Many hard working families who are now jobless are suffering aswell as those with disabilities, real ones not "ow my back" ones. Go on the st vincent de paul website and educate yourself.

upinthesky

why don't they start handing out some contraception there??

ok in my opinion were only making matters worse its awful to say but the more we give the more the population is growing and there's more people to feed and anyway is Africa not a very wealthy continent or am i wrong?

El Weirdo

WindSock wrote: »

The thing is, it is an emergency situation at the moment. And not a time to be humming and hawing about corruption.

Especially when you're doing it from behind your computer screen on a nice broadband connection, in your nice, warm house, after a nice-Sunday-roast-and-then-a-couple-of-beers-down-the-pub-with-your-mates-to-watch-the-football.

Ulysses Gaze

WindSock wrote: »

Poverty in Ireland today does not equal a famine.

No, but Irish children are dying through lack of proper medical facilities here (Cystic Fibrosis for instance). Plus we have a large number of homeless people on the streets that could use the money.

I'd prefer Peter McVerry or Focus Ireland getting the €500,000.

Plus we already give c.€600 million in overseas aid every year.

WindSock

lisar816 wrote: »

why don't they start handing out some contraception there??

ok in my opinion were only making matters worse its awful to say but the more we give the more the population is growing and there's more people to feed and anyway is Africa not a very wealthy country or am i wrong?

:eek:

What good is contraception and family planning when your kids are dying anyway?

whatdoicare

lisar816 wrote: »

why don't they start handing out some contraception there??

ok in my opinion were only making matters worse its awful to say but the more we give the more the population is growing and there's more people to feed and anyway is Africa not a very wealthy country or am i wrong?

The pope says no - and he seems to still have power over there.

upinthesky

Pete M. wrote: »

There's billions being spent on sick and dying children over here.
But over there nearly every other child will die.
Imagine having to pick between two of your own kids which one was to be given up.

€500,000?

We should have sent €5,000,000,000.

The Government spend more on our secret service...

http://www.budget.gov.ie/budgets/2011/Documents/White%20paper%20English.pdf

If we can't, as a Nation, spare a bit of change, to help these poor wee bas'tards, then fcuk the lot of us.

Heartless, greedy, compassionless, money junkies who give na'er a fcuk about anybody but themselves.

right so you pick the child then that child had to pick one of there children and so on and so the cycle keeps going and more and more money needed?
its about was is best in the long run and using your head not your heart

0O7

currently we are borrowing money....

i dont think its right to borrow money and donate it to charity...

think i might go to the credit union tomorrow, take out another loan, then donate it to a non irish charity.... dosnt make sense. and if they feel the need to donate money i would prefer if they did to an irish charity, cancer research or something...

El Weirdo

lisar816 wrote: »

why don't they start handing out some contraception there??

ok in my opinion were only making matters worse its awful to say but the more we give the more the population is growing and there's more people to feed and anyway is Africa not a very wealthy country or am i wrong?

People don't have kids so that they can give them a fucking stupid name and show them off to their mates over there.

They have as many kids as possible so that in the unlikely event that a couple of them survive, there is someone to look after the parents in their old age.

Tehachapi

WindSock wrote: »

Of course the money won't 'fix' Africa and yes there are many problems but that still doesn't mean it hasn't saved countless lives.

Do you know what percentage of our aid gets squandered?

The thing is, it is an emergency situation at the moment. And not a time to be humming and hawing about corruption.

It's not solving anything though. If we fund enough so 100 people survive (who would have died otherwise), then they each have 7 children, and their children each have 7 children (common where there's a lack of contraception available) then in 50 years time you have almost 5,000 suffering and starving people in the exact same environment that led to poverty now.

As horrible as it is to say, they should be allowed to die off. Africa's problems will not be solved by financial intervention from the western world. We are just prolonging their suffering and doing them more harm.

coolbeans

Sigh, all this tightfistedness coming from the people of a country in receipt of E80 billion in foreign aid. We didn't give Africa "another E500,000", the EU gave it and we were merely a proxy.

0O7

0O7 wrote: »

http://www.wlrfm.com/news-and-sport/national-news/83243-ireland-to-boost-kenya-aid-by-500000.html



what about us???? dont think our country can afford to give anything away

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAi3VTSdTxU

Artur Foden

500,000? Isn't that what some Irish people spent on one of their houses?

It's nothing in the scheme of things and if it feeds a couple of families then so be it.

WindSock

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

No, but Irish children are dying through lack of proper medical facilities here (Cystic Fibrosis for instance). Plus we have a large number of homeless people on the streets that could use the money.

I'd prefer Peter McVerry or Focus Ireland getting the €500,000.

Plus we already give c.€600 million in overseas aid every year.

Do you think that 500k will go into saving as many lives here as it would there?

True we give aid already, but this is needed in a specific region atm.

El Weirdo

0O7 wrote: »

currently we are borrowing money....

i dont think its right to borrow money and donate it to charity...

think i might go to the credit union tomorrow, take out another loan, then donate it to a non irish charity.... dosnt make sense. and if they feel the need to donate money i would prefer if they did to an irish charity, cancer research or something...

Like I said earlier, we are borrowing that money so that we can pay off bankers that took punts and to keep you and me living in relative luxury.

We are giving money to these people so they can eat and drink.

The fucking ignorance in here is mind-boggling.

laugh

whatdoicare wrote: »

That is not actually why children in Ireland are facing poverty - that is just an idea/image in your head - a disgusting one at that. Many hard working families who are now jobless are suffering aswell as those with disabilities, real ones not "ow my back" ones. Go on the st vincent de paul website and educate yourself.

So no children in Ireland face poverty due to irresponsible parents?

upinthesky

El Weirdo wrote: »

People don't have kids so that they can give them a fucking stupid name and show them off to their mates over there.

They have as many kids as possible so that in the unlikely event that a couple of them survive, there is someone to look after the parents in their old age.

fair enough i see what your saying but surly if everyone only had two children it would greater there chances of survival rather then watch the other 4 or so die?