London and UK riots (started in Tottenham 10:30PM, 6th Aug)

who the fug

Latchy wrote: »

I'll see what I can do ...

Police commisioner asking for public to clear the streets and make it easier for the police to focus on the mob ...

shocking pictures of Croyden buildings and bus on fire ...some looting and danger of fire spreading to residential buildings

Average Saturday night in Croydon then , least that can't be blamed on black youth

ascanbe

Sand wrote: »

Just wondering when theyll call in the PSNI, the most experienced police force in the UK when it comes to dealing with rioters.

Cue "What you boys need is a bit of Belfast efficiency" sketch.

There only used to dealing with white people rioting, though.
Some of the participants here are of a more dusky hue, so this is clearly a worse riot.

Richard Hillman

The amount of businesses on fire in Croydon. The whole place is on fire. There is no way the fire brigade can handle this. There will be many casualties tonight

amacachi

Sand wrote: »

Just wondering when theyll call in the PSNI, the most experienced police force in the UK when it comes to dealing with rioters.

Cue "What you boys need is a bit of Belfast efficiency" sketch.

It's disgusting the difference in reaction to kids throwing stones in NI to looting and widespread arson in London.

DominoDub

Wow they may need to lockdown parts of the city ...but they dont have the man power !

R P McMurphy

norris_minor wrote: »

it's also a joining forces of the two most degenerate forms of music ever concocted, computer generated rave and fronting hip hop breaking down the racial divide to form a type of neo-degenerate "urban" scene.

it makes no diefference if these youth are black or White. They're both, combined. both of either races' most dysfunctional yoof cultures, forming a type of neo-dysfunctional

Surely you should add in computer games in your analysis, maybe a film like the matrix as well

KeithAFC

kevmol88 wrote: »

DON'T PANIC DON'T TALK

http://i55.tinypic.com/21cxauf.jpg

Ha. Reminds me of that old banner from the troubles.

amacachi

Wertz wrote: »

Could the brits even mobilise enough troops for martial law if this reaches the conclussions it's looking it's going to?
From the look of it there won't be enough frie engines to douse burning buildings nevermind police to protect the crews...

I said last night that if they weren't going to carry out decisive action then things would escalate. It's now looking like they can't even draft in cops from elsewhere into London given that everywhere else is starting to pick up.

There still isn't a need for the army yet though. An immediate curfew with shoot-on-sight orders after 10pm using plastic bullets for now would tidy things up tonight at least.

DominoDub

The only positive thing to out of this is that any Irish people being interviewed are the most articulate.:D

Wertz

Irishman boxed in...find a pub mate and hope you get a lock-in.

Seriously though, poor guy

R P McMurphy

amacachi wrote: »

I said last night that if they weren't going to carry out decisive action then things would escalate. It's now looking like they can't even draft in cops from elsewhere into London given that everywhere else is starting to pick up.

There still isn't a need for the army yet though. An immediate curfew with shoot-on-sight orders after 10pm using plastic bullets for now would tidy things up tonight at least.

Would fairly ignite the situation if they killed someone with a plastic bullet now

Latchy

Another Irish guy on bbc news quite hysterical on the spot in Croyden ...people are really scared ...90 year old woman and other familys terrified .

Helicoptor shot of large furniture store on fire there ....shocking

The mob know that starting fires stretchs the police /fire brigade resources and puts fear into everybody and the bastards dont give a fcuk who get injured or killed

MIN2511

It'll cost a lot to rebuild London after all this...

Mr. Denton

This is the building on fire in croydon

http://maps.google.ie/maps?q=reeves+corner+croydon+furniture+shop&ll=51.37384,-0.105365&spn=0.001142,0.00284&sll=51.373515,-0.105732&sspn=0.006295,0.006295&fb=1&gl=ie&t=h&fll=51.373515,-0.105733&fspn=0.001134,0.00284&z=19

mikemac

amacachi wrote: »

There still isn't a need for the army yet though.

Can they not do what they did on the Island in Limerick

The army man the barriers and block the streets but it's the police who deal with the public

The army don't even talk or deal with the public, just assist by blocking streets

Aid to civil power I believe it's called

Wertz

Air support? Better get a few of those forest fire fighting planes tbh.

Hank Scorpio

Whats the "reason" for these attacks? I read someone was shot by the police a few days ago but don't know the circumstances

Kiera

nuxxx wrote: »

Whats the "reason" for these attacks? I read someone was shot by the police a few days ago but don't know the circumstances

Its covered in the first few pages of this thread.

Sardonicat

The fire brigade have only manaed to get to that burning furniture store now. I can't imagine what the fumes from that inferno are doing to the people who live nearby.

Not getting much information about Birmingham and Leeds on the news.

Scary stuff.

Daemos

nuxxx wrote: »

Whats the "reason" for these attacks? I read someone was shot by the police a few days ago but don't know the circumstances

Peaceful protest hijacked by maniacs and continued by bored feral kids

Hank Scorpio

d0h!

bob50

They are rioting in Birmingham tonight. this could spread to other cities like Dublin i hope not but the scum on streets are into copy cutting

amacachi

R P McMurphy wrote: »

Would fairly ignite the situation if they killed someone with a plastic bullet now

If so then the cops should escalate further with the support of the army. With the amount going on now a single death of one of the perpetrators wouldn't constitute a heavy-handed respone IMO.

mikemac wrote: »

Can they not do what they did on the Island in Limerick

The army man the barriers and block the streets but it's the police who deal with the public

The army don't even talk or deal with the public, just assist by blocking streets

Aid to civil power I believe it's called

Depends on their laws. Have a feeling that other than in NI they have to pass some kind of order or something (not well-read on UK law :pac: ) to deploy troops in the UK.

oppenheimer1

Sardonicat wrote: »

The fire brigade have only manaed to get to that burning furniture store now. I can't imagine what the fumes from that inferno are doing to the people who live nearby.

Not getting much information about Birmingham and Leeds on the news.

Scary stuff.

Never mind the fumes, you can see the neighbouring buildings smouldering... Its a huge fire and the whole neighbourhood could go up in flames.

recylingbin

Ahhh, the annual Hammersmith riots on tour.
Welcome back the 80s/90s.

Sand

It wont spread to Dublin - give the Gardai some credit, they arent afraid to put a scumbags head through a window for the greater good.

Sooopie

Those poor fcuking firemen

brummytom

Sardonicat wrote: »

Not getting much information about Birmingham and Leeds on the news.

Scary stuff.

+1 to both of these. There are so many rumours going round on facebook about Birmingham, apparently Primark has been burnt down; but BBC/Sky are reporting bugger all from here. It would be nice to know what's going on!


The only things I've seen are pictures here obviously taken a few hours ago.

Pacing Mule

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/08/08/article-2023554-0D58092100000578-48_964x554.jpg

Woman arrested for looting the shop she works in ?

Wertz

amacachi wrote: »

There still isn't a need for the army yet though.

Preemptively there is....this thing is gaining a momentum that is going to become harder to quell the longer it runs. Anyway I don't think they have the troops to mobilise on such short notice...for now they're having to make do with politicians telling everyone to go home and stop the messing.