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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 197 ✭✭2Bints1Joe


    Any team that comes out of Munster and beats a strong Dublin team have earned their place in the FInal. Gl in the league final Sunday.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,289 ✭✭✭megadodge


    2Bints1Joe wrote: »
    Any team that comes out of Munster and beats a strong Dublin team have earned their place in the FInal. Gl in the league final Sunday.

    I agree.
    But before you and thinkstoomuch1 get too defensive about Tipp, consider the source of the annoying comment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    megadodge wrote: »
    I agree.
    But before you and thinkstoomuch1 get too defensive about Tipp, consider the source of the annoying comment.

    He has the ability to produce some daft comments and sure only Tipp beat Roscommon minors 4 years ago.

    While the Roscommon and Dublin lines didn't cover themselves in glory there is no doubt Tyrone and Tipp were the better sides on the day and deserve their place in the All Ireland final.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭Syferus


    After last weekend's disappointment this trip to Dublin might be coming at a good time for everyone, U21s included. Maybe the most dangerous thing is not taking this opportunity as seriously as possible - this is a chance to beat a good team in a national final in Croke Park. It's hard to think if we were to win two league finals in 12 months in Croker that if we find ourselves back again in August that we won't be full of confidence.

    It's amazing how up and down our performances were over the course of the league despite clearly progressing as a team and doing enough to be promoted. All about being consistent now. If we do that we have every chance of winning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭Strongbow10


    Promotion to division 1 is an amazing achievement, but I've a feeling that in terms of fitness, we were going at it harder than a lot of teams. Possibly peaking early in the year.

    A lot of games under the belt of a lot of our panel, I'm hoping things don't tail off in terms of performance for the summer.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,723 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Promotion to division 1 is an amazing achievement, but I've a feeling that in terms of fitness, we were going at it harder than a lot of teams. Possibly peaking early in the year.

    A lot of games under the belt of a lot of our panel, I'm hoping things don't tail off in terms of performance for the summer.
    true, considering Ros face London first and then v Sligo (who have improved a lot)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭Syferus


    Promotion to division 1 is an amazing achievement, but I've a feeling that in terms of fitness, we were going at it harder than a lot of teams. Possibly peaking early in the year.

    A lot of games under the belt of a lot of our panel, I'm hoping things don't tail off in terms of performance for the summer.

    In fairness we hardly were going at it too hard in the Cavan, Laois or Galway games. I think everyone in D2 were trying quite hard and that's what made it such a changeable division. I certainly don't see much more capacity in any of the other teams in the Division above what they showed in the league.

    Only three U21s (one of whom who has exclusively been used as a sub) getting senior time so the senior panel is as fresh as any in the country too. We're getting one competitive game in the eight weeks between the end of the league and the London game - the players are probably delighted to have this final in what would have been otherwise lull period of training and challenge matches.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,522 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    Project managers have been appointed to the Hyde redevelopment.Good to see a bit of movement on this ,hopefully there is a clear outline of whats happening in the coming weeks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,289 ✭✭✭megadodge


    yabadabado wrote: »
    Project managers have been appointed to the Hyde redevelopment.Good to see a bit of movement on this ,hopefully there is a clear outline of whats happening in the coming weeks.

    Exactly.

    I was beginning to wonder when they were going to get moving.
    Originally, the diggers were supposed to be moving in immediately following the last home league game. What's the delay for? If nothing else, the crazy stories going round the rumour mill will finish once the work starts, so please get on with it!

    It looks like all our home games in Division 1 will not be played in Roscommon, which is a rather serious disadvantage straight away for a young up-and-coming team that are hoping to make big strides in the next few years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,522 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    megadodge wrote: »
    Exactly.

    It looks like all our home games in Division 1 will not be played in Roscommon, which is a rather serious disadvantage straight away for a young up-and-coming team that are hoping to make big strides in the next few years.

    I presume they will play them all in Kiltoom,which isn't the end of the world.Biggest disadvantage is they cant cater for large crowds and there could be some big attendances depending who we get at home.
    Maybe they will be able to play games and still do work on the ground ,close off county home side(stand and one end terrace).Its all up in the air either way until planning etc is done.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 679 ✭✭✭Lt J.R. Bell


    yabadabado wrote: »
    I presume they will play them all in Kiltoom,which isn't the end of the world.Biggest disadvantage is they cant cater for large crowds and there could be some big attendances depending who we get at home.
    Maybe they will be able to play games and still do work on the ground ,close off county home side(stand and one end terrace).Its all up in the air either way until planning etc is done.
    Ya, one thing that I was very proud of was the fact that when we were playing division 1 football, we got very very good attendances at the Hyde For league games.Proper supporters.

    Who wouldn't want to watch Dublin or Kerry come to town?

    Have they announced what exactly are they going to do with the stadium? Seating, terrace? Any plans. The place looked brilliant when packed but an utter kip when empty, the pitch needs draining too. Any plans online?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭Syferus


    megadodge wrote: »
    Exactly.

    I was beginning to wonder when they were going to get moving.
    Originally, the diggers were supposed to be moving in immediately following the last home league game. What's the delay for? If nothing else, the crazy stories going round the rumour mill will finish once the work starts, so please get on with it!

    It looks like all our home games in Division 1 will not be played in Roscommon, which is a rather serious disadvantage straight away for a young up-and-coming team that are hoping to make big strides in the next few years.

    The Hyde wil be open all of 2016 now. Development pushed back with the aim of being finished for championship 2017 a few weeks ago. And I think the diggers coming in straight after the last games was a line the CB chairman used about two years back. It took us until a couple months ago to finally, finally get the Gaels' ownership of the Hyde out of the way so there has been a mountain of delays in the redevelopment of the Hyde at this stage. Probably has needed to be developed for a decade or more at this stage.

    In fairness this year we finally seem to have made real progress, ownership resolved, HQ committing to helping fund it and now we have a firm in place to manage the work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,723 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    Syferus wrote: »
    The Hyde wil be open all of 2016 now. Development pushed back with the aim of being finished for championship 2017 a few weeks ago. And I think the diggers coming in straight after the last games was a line the CB chairman used about two years back. It took us until a couple months ago to finally, finally get the Gaels' ownership of the Hyde out of the way so there has been a mountain of delays in the redevelopment of the Hyde at this stage. Probably has needed to be developed for a decade or more at this stage.

    In fairness this year we finally seem to have made real progress, ownership resolved, HQ committing to helping fund it and now we have a firm in place to manage the work.

    nothing lawyers and solicitors like more than a long drawn out saga.
    I don't think the club or county board were the problem


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,522 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    nothing lawyers and solicitors like more than a long drawn out saga.
    I don't think the club or county board were the problem

    as a matter of interest ,who do you think were the problem ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,289 ✭✭✭megadodge


    yabadabado wrote: »
    as a matter of interest ,who do you think were the problem ?

    I'm not sure about the Co. Board, but there was palpable anger in the Gaels that the word going round in public for a long time befor the actual finish was that it was the Gaels that were holding things up. At that stage, the Gaels had signed everything they had to sign and were waiting on the other side to get things in order. Nobody in the Gaels had any idea what the delay was about.

    Now whether it was the legal eagles holding it up for whatever reason, I don't know and I suspect we'll never get the truth, but get this straight - The Gaels were not the reason for the long delay!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,102 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    Ya, one thing that I was very proud of was the fact that when we were playing division 1 football, we got very very good attendances at the Hyde For league games.Proper supporters.

    Who wouldn't want to watch Dublin or Kerry come to town?

    Roscommon's league games next year will be 4 home games against

    Donegal
    Galway
    Monaghan
    Dublin

    and three away games

    Kerry
    Cork
    Mayo


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,289 ✭✭✭megadodge


    yabadabado wrote: »
    I presume they will play them all in Kiltoom,which isn't the end of the world.Biggest disadvantage is they cant cater for large crowds and there could be some big attendances depending who we get at home.
    Maybe they will be able to play games and still do work on the ground ,close off county home side(stand and one end terrace).Its all up in the air either way until planning etc is done.

    I wonder will we be allowed to host Division One games in Kiltoom though. It has a max capacity of what - 3k?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,289 ✭✭✭megadodge


    Boom__Boom wrote: »
    Roscommon's league games next year will be 4 home games against

    Donegal
    Galway
    Monaghan
    Dublin

    and three away games

    Kerry
    Cork
    Mayo

    Galway??


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,102 ✭✭✭Boom__Boom


    megadodge wrote: »
    Galway??

    Obviously Down :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,289 ✭✭✭megadodge


    yabadabado wrote: »
    I presume they will play them all in Kiltoom,which isn't the end of the world.Biggest disadvantage is they cant cater for large crowds and there could be some big attendances depending who we get at home.
    Maybe they will be able to play games and still do work on the ground ,close off county home side(stand and one end terrace).Its all up in the air either way until planning etc is done.

    The first thing they need to do is resurface the pitch (which was atocious 20+ years ago, not to mind today). And with the way that the guys who specialise in these things go about it (correctly) it could be 18 months before anyone is allowed play on it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,522 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    megadodge wrote: »
    The first thing they need to do is resurface the pitch (which was atocious 20+ years ago, not to mind today). And with the way that the guys who specialise in these things go about it (correctly) it could be 18 months before anyone is allowed play on it.

    I cannot see that happening.
    Right or wrong I would say they will be given a 10- 11 month timeframe to get all the work done.Start June/July 2016 and be ready for championship 2017,May at the earliest.
    Only other option is to give away any home games we get in the championship,maximum of two Connacht games,which would allow the Hyde be closed for 18 months.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Boom__Boom wrote: »
    Roscommon's league games next year will be 4 home games against

    Donegal
    Galway
    Monaghan
    Dublin

    and three away games

    Kerry
    Cork
    Mayo

    You can't say that for sure. The draw for 2016 hasn't been done yet. 2016 is the start of another 2 year cycle, where everything starts from scratch again. So no one can say what their home & away league games in 2016 will be, based on who/where they played in 2015.


    If your co ground is out of commission during next years league, playing games in Croke Park may be an option.

    In previous years, when counties had a problem with their own ground, the Dublin Co Board have offered to have our away game with them in Croker. We did this with Kildare, back in 2013 when they couldn't get a health & safety cert for Newbridge. Same thing happened with Kerry in 2012.

    Another option is the DCB offering up the chance to to play one of your non Dublin away games in Croker. It will be part of a double header, with a Dubs game on later. That happened in 2013, where Cork and Donegal played each other, prior to Dublin playing Kerry. The spectators may not like having to hit the road for what is supposed to be a home game, but the co boards like it as they get a much bigger pay check, than if they played the game at home. Managers like it too, as they get to give the newer lads on their panels a run out at Croke Park early in the year. Roscommon v Mayo under the lights at Croker, could be quite a tasty appetizer to Dublin v Kerry next year, no?

    Congrats on your great year btw & welcome to the big time. We are all fierce excited up here, at getting to see that badass bus of yours. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭Syferus


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    You can't say that for sure. The draw for 2016 hasn't been done yet. 2016 is the start of another 2 year cycle, where everything starts from scratch again. So no one knows what their home & away league games in 2016 will be, based on who/where they played in 2015.

    If your co ground is out of commission during next years league, playing games in Croke Park may be an option.

    In previous years, when counties had a problem with their own ground, the Dublin Co Board have offered to have our away game with them in Croker. We did this with Kildare, back in 2013 when they couldn't get a health & safety cert for Newbridge. Same thing happened with Kerry in 2012.

    Another option is the DCB offering up the chance to to play one of your non Dublin away games in Croker. It will be part of a double header, with a Dubs game on later. That happened in 2013, where Cork and Donegal played each other, prior to Dublin playing Kerry. The spectators may not like having to hit the road for what is supposed to be a home game, but the co boards like it as they get a much bigger pay check, than if they played the game at home. Managers like it too, as they get to give the newer lads on their panels a run out at Croke Park early in the year. Roscommon v Mayo under the lights at Croker, could be quite a tasty appetizer to Dublin v Kerry next year, no?

    Congrats on your great year btw & welcome to the big time. We are all fierce excited up here, at getting to see that badass bus of yours. :D

    Few Rossies would be upset if we played an 'away' game against Cork or Kerry in Croker. Far handier to get up the motorway to Dublin. And it's not like Cork in particular bring much meaningful support to home league games.. but I don't see Mayo or Roscommon giving up a home game to play in Croke Park. Too big of a local rivalry.

    But again, this will only be an issue in 2017 if we're in D1. The Hyde will be open for the entire league in 2016.


  • Registered Users Posts: 918 ✭✭✭RoscommonTom


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    You can't say that for sure. The draw for 2016 hasn't been done yet. 2016 is the start of another 2 year cycle, where everything starts from scratch again. So no one can say what their home & away league games in 2016 will be, based on who/where they played in 2015.


    If your co ground is out of commission during next years league, playing games in Croke Park may be an option.

    In previous years, when counties had a problem with their own ground, the Dublin Co Board have offered to have our away game with them in Croker. We did this with Kildare, back in 2013 when they couldn't get a health & safety cert for Newbridge. Same thing happened with Kerry in 2012.

    Another option is the DCB offering up the chance to to play one of your non Dublin away games in Croker. It will be part of a double header, with a Dubs game on later. That happened in 2013, where Cork and Donegal played each other, prior to Dublin playing Kerry. The spectators may not like having to hit the road for what is supposed to be a home game, but the co boards like it as they get a much bigger pay check, than if they played the game at home. Managers like it too, as they get to give the newer lads on their panels a run out at Croke Park early in the year. Roscommon v Mayo under the lights at Croker, could be quite a tasty appetizer to Dublin v Kerry next year, no?

    Congrats on your great year btw & welcome to the big time. We are all fierce excited up here, at getting to see that badass bus of yours. :D

    no way would be we going above to dublin to play mayo just to make a few extra pounds for the gaa, theres plenty of places to play on this side of the country pure rubbish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,723 ✭✭✭nice_guy80


    no way would be we going above to dublin to play mayo just to make a few extra pounds for the gaa, theres plenty of places to play on this side of the country pure rubbish

    In that situation Carrick is the obvious choice


  • Registered Users Posts: 918 ✭✭✭RoscommonTom


    nice_guy80 wrote: »
    In that situation Carrick is the obvious choice

    Or tuam maybe


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    That happened in 2013, where Cork and Donegal played each other, prior to Dublin playing Kerry.

    Kildare played Donegal...


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,342 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    who do people see starting tomorrow?

    murray i assume will fill in for mcdermott at corner back. higgins might start in midfield (though i think its too early but whatever). there are two spots in half-forward open because kelly certainly didn't do enough last time in mullingar to start and neither did healy. enda smith looks like he needs the rest of the year off going by his performances in the last two under 21 games.

    1. o'malley
    2. murray
    3. carty
    4. collins
    5. keenan
    6. niall daly
    7. cafferkey
    8. cathal shine
    9. higgins
    10. conor daly
    11. ?
    12. ?
    13. cregg
    14. senan kilbride
    15. diarmuid murtagh


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    no way would be we going above to dublin to play mayo just to make a few extra pounds for the gaa, theres plenty of places to play on this side of the country pure rubbish

    Other counties have done it, when their own ground wasn't available, so it's not pure rubbish. I'm just throwing it out there as a possibility. There is nothing at all to stop the Roscommon co board from deciding to do it too, if circumstances warranted it. It's not money for the GAA btw. It's money straight into the coffers of the counties involved, which is a different thing entirely.

    Also, would the co board, the players and mgt really prefer to play games in Tuam or Carrick, when the offer of a freebie at Croker is on the table? It's not the greatest way to prepare for possible big games there later in the year. The likes of Donegal and Kerry leap at the offer of a freebie at Croker every chance they get & they haven't done too badly out of all the experience playing there.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,253 ✭✭✭Redsoxfan


    ProudDUB wrote: »
    The likes of Donegal and Kerry leap at the offer of a freebie at Croker every chance they get & they haven't done too badly out of all the experience playing there.


    What? The only time we played in Croke Park in the league when playing anyone other than Dublin or a play off was due to Kildare moving their home game becuase of the 'safe' capacity in Newbridge and as Donegal were All Ireland Champions, there probably would have been significant interest in the game. We were just off the plane from Dubai and weren't fit to leap at anything.


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