Anyone with QSat?

bealtine

pat13wx wrote: »

I see what you mean. It really is looking quite ominous for Satellite ISPs, then. Too bad if they can't continue as Satellite seems an alternative for rural dwellers without other means of getting connected.

That's what the marketing types would like you to believe but in reality sat is not an alternative to anything decent

Sponge Bob

Satellites once carried around 50% of international telephone traffic ( 25 years ago) and more than 50% of transatlantic and transpacific. Now they carry 5% of traffic at most. Fibre replaced them.

TV ( broadcast and outside broadcast) took up the slack left when telecommunications abandoned satellite for fibre.

There are exceptions like the middle of the Sahara or the south atlantic, a citizen of a developed country should not be forced to rely on this technology all the same.

watty

pat13wx wrote: »

I see what you mean. It really is looking quite ominous for Satellite ISPs, then. Too bad if they can't continue as Satellite seems an alternative for rural dwellers without other means of getting connected.

Satellite ISPs?
All the companies here except one are just resellers. The one that isn't a reseller has Fixed & Mobile Wireless, DSL and Fibre. Even they only resell Satellite capacity. There is no real Satellite ISP in Ireland at all the sense of having full network and control of the Satellite.

Some talk of Elfordstown being used by Ka-Sat, but that will not be for Irish users.

pat13wx

watty wrote: »

Satellite ISPs?
All the companies here except one are just resellers. The one that isn't a reseller has Fixed & Mobile Wireless, DSL and Fibre. Even they only resell Satellite capacity. There is no real Satellite ISP in Ireland at all the sense of having full network and control of the Satellite.

Some talk of Elfordstown being used by Ka-Sat, but that will not be for Irish users.

Kind of like those ISPs that use Eircom's existing telephone lines and resell essentially the same product or variations thereof under a different name and with different pricing structures.

pat13wx

dc27 wrote: »

Hi does anyone know what direction and angle the Qsat dish needs to be pointed towards? Thanks very much.

I am sure if you were to give them a call they'd be able to help you.

Evil_little_me

dc27 wrote: »

Hi does anyone know what direction and angle the Qsat dish needs to be pointed towards? Thanks very much.

The engineer will install everything for you, he'll know which way it should be pointed.

petronius

The dish needs to be pointed at the Astra 28.5 satellite... the same one used by Freesat (which seems to be the qsat tv offer) and Sky

irishpancake

petronius wrote: »

The dish needs to be pointed at the Astra 28.5 satellite... the same one used by Freesat (which seems to be the qsat tv offer) and Sky

Yeah, I think it goes sometin like this:

Can you see the Sky:



Apologies to PressTheButton....hope you don't mind me re-using your image.

irishpancake

D1stant wrote: »

Satelite Broadband is an oxymoron

I'd like to see Ireland do something like this

http://www.mobilenewscwp.co.uk/2010/12/vodafone-germany-intros-lte-service-and-pricing/

In Germany the Goverment gave VF cheap LTE spectrum under the condition that they service rural areas with it. 7/21/50Mb services all over Germany

just a warning from Chrome, on that URL above...something not right.

corkfella101

fergus1001 wrote: »

2 gigs is crazy i smoke through 15 gigs in a month with three i really wish they were leanient with the limits

im with 3 and im getting 25gb a month for 19.99
i can only get that under the national broadband scheme
look into it and you might get more than 15 gb

pat13wx

I see Q-Sat are still only offering 1 gig per month download allowance with their basic package and 5 gig with their most expensive one. Is this the least decent allowance out there from any Satellite BB provider anywhere in Europe? Sure seems that way.

Heefy

Evil_little_me wrote: »

Rang vodafone to see if I could cancel my contract for the slow as feck mobile broadband and found out it was up anyway so I bit the bullet and ordered Q-Sat a few hours ago.

€99 up front for installation, then €59.95 per month for the Gold package (8mb down / 2mb up), sounds alright. Anything's gotta be better than that bloody mobile broadband :mad:

The only downside is I'll be waiting 4-6 weeks for installation thanks to the waiting list.

Have you had this installed yet? Lots on contention at the moment on this thread. I have imagine broadband at the moment WiMAX based the atcual rates measured on an alleged 4MB service are typically 0.4 MB when I use speedtest.net ... Have you run speed test. I am so unhappy with imagine that I am thinking of trying this on a 14 day basis.

Evil_little_me

So, my QSAT got installed today and honestly, I can't speak highly enough of it.

Tidy job, the dish is quite large, but it's on the back of the house so that's okay. Incredible speed, seriously, I can't believe how fast it is. Especially considering the speed of the mobile broadband I had, it's just an astonishing difference.

I can do anything online now, whereas before, I couldn't even view a video on YouTube that ran longer than four minutes because it just simple took too long to load.

I definitely recommend it. I know the 1 gig download allowance is stiff but I couldn't care less.

daveoc16

Anyone using Qsat with Eircom Phonewatch or other alarm system as a monitoring medium.
I'm trying to decide what type house alarm to get as i want to get txt msg to my mobile if alarm is activated. Also want to remotely monitor cameras on exterior using internet/smartphone.
In tech terms is sat broadband looked on as "fixed line" as opposed to wireless 3G? e.g. Phonewatch does not work using 3G wireless broadband but does work using fixed landline/GSM.
Any info appreciated.

PogMoThoin

Evil_little_me wrote: »

I can do anything online now,

Eh, Sorry, but no you can't. It's not broadband and never will be. You can't do anything in real time, like gaming, VoIP doesn't work well, VPN will never work. Highly optimised browsing is all you got and an hour watching Youtube will eat that monthly limit.

S55AMG

hellboy99 wrote: »

Has anyone got the new QSat service, what is their broadband like?

I had QSat installed 2 weeks ago and am dreadfully dissapointed, frustrated and angry :mad::mad:

I am signed up for the 4 meg BB package with Nightsaver. Since day one I have had issues with the connection speed. 90% of the 20 odd speed tests I have done have all come in under 1 meg, a couple at 1.5 and one at 3. The speeds are completely inconsistent.

I thought I was getting the issue resolved when I had a ticket opened and was getting some response from Tech support. Unfortunately for me, QSat have decided that getting less than one meg is acceptable on my package and they do not intend on doing anything further about it. How is this possible? How can they consider this an acceptable connection speed for 40 quid a month? If I was paying for the 2 meg line I might understand a bit more, but I am not willing to accept those speeds on a 4 meg line. QSat's entire web site and FAQ's section is simply a load of spoofing to get you to sign up. I will be getting onto ComReg about their false advertising. Have you read their 'FAQ' about contention and waffling about airline seats and overbooking? Then they conveniently forgot to mention what their contention ratio is!

Are there any more disgruntled QSat customers out there? I would say there are but they just can't get online to complain about it

PogMoThoin

S55AMG wrote: »

I had QSat installed 2 weeks ago and am dreadfully dissapointed, frustrated and angry :mad::mad:

I am signed up for the 4 meg BB package with Nightsaver. Since day one I have had issues with the connection speed. 90% of the 20 odd speed tests I have done have all come in under 1 meg, a couple at 1.5 and one at 3. The speeds are completely inconsistent.

I thought I was getting the issue resolved when I had a ticket opened and was getting some response from Tech support. Unfortunately for me, QSat have decided that getting less than one meg is acceptable on my package and they do not intend on doing anything further about it. How is this possible? How can they consider this an acceptable connection speed for 40 quid a month? If I was paying for the 2 meg line I might understand a bit more, but I am not willing to accept those speeds on a 4 meg line. QSat's entire web site and FAQ's section is simply a load of spoofing to get you to sign up. I will be getting onto ComReg about their false advertising. Have you read their 'FAQ' about contention and waffling about airline seats and overbooking? Then they conveniently forgot to mention what their contention ratio is!

Are there any more disgruntled QSat customers out there? I would say there are but they just can't get online to complain about it

Contention. LOL, You share a single link to the satellite with the whole of Europe

Watty will come back with the figures of exactly what size link that is, but it's about the equivalent backhaul to a dsl exchange in a rural village, and you share that with the whole of Europe

Feebs10

Anyone know a wireless BB that can be got without a phone line and reasonably priced or with a phone line???? It's for my son's xbox (xbox live). I'm based in Leitrim. Thanks

bealtine

Feebs10 wrote: »

Anyone know a wireless BB that can be got without a phone line and reasonably priced or with a phone line???? It's for my son's xbox (xbox live). I'm based in Leitrim. Thanks

Try these links:

http://www.ardenbroadband.ie
http://www.ciaracom.ie

Feebs10

Thanks

connie147

Hi lads,
Im no computer genius I'm afraid, so i could do with ye're help. I live 4 miles outside Killarney in Co Kerry, and we have no access to broadband. I use a 3g mobile broadband stick and it works reasonably ok.

I play quite a bit of online poker (have up to 4-6 tables opened at any one time). The only other thing I use the laptop for is emails, reading boards and using skype.

My 3g stick, though ok is not ideal as it is sometimes too slow and my poker tables time-out.

Am I right in presuming that getting one of the satellite broadband providers must be an improvement in what I have? I have no intention of downloading music/movies etc etc.I want to set up a room at home specifically for playing the poker, so advice from the guys here who know a bit about it would be appretiated.

Connie

PogMoThoin

connie147 wrote: »

Hi lads,
Im no computer genius I'm afraid, so i could do with ye're help. I live 4 miles outside Killarney in Co Kerry, and we have no access to broadband. I use a 3g mobile broadband stick and it works reasonably ok.

I play quite a bit of online poker (have up to 4-6 tables opened at any one time). The only other thing I use the laptop for is emails, reading boards and using skype.

My 3g stick, though ok is not ideal as it is sometimes too slow and my poker tables time-out.

Am I right in presuming that getting one of the satellite broadband providers must be an improvement in what I have? I have no intention of downloading music/movies etc etc.I want to set up a room at home specifically for playing the poker, so advice from the guys here who know a bit about it would be appretiated.

Connie

You could rule out Skype, it will now work well at such high latency.
Do you realise how little 4GB is to a user per month? it's pittance.
24 month contract and de-installation fee, are you sure you are willing to take a risk on being stuck with something that may not work for you?

pat13wx

connie147 wrote: »

Hi lads,
Im no computer genius I'm afraid, so i could do with ye're help. I live 4 miles outside Killarney in Co Kerry, and we have no access to broadband. I use a 3g mobile broadband stick and it works reasonably ok.

I play quite a bit of online poker (have up to 4-6 tables opened at any one time). The only other thing I use the laptop for is emails, reading boards and using skype.

My 3g stick, though ok is not ideal as it is sometimes too slow and my poker tables time-out.

Am I right in presuming that getting one of the satellite broadband providers must be an improvement in what I have? I have no intention of downloading music/movies etc etc.I want to set up a room at home specifically for playing the poker, so advice from the guys here who know a bit about it would be appretiated.

Connie

To put it simply, Q-Sat is only good enough for browsing the net, sending and receiving emails. If you use it for anything else the meagre amount of a monthly download allowance (2 gigs a month for basic package) you will find you’ve gone over within a few days. Remember, even viewing a you tube video will soon eat up any allowance you might have. Q-Sat is ideal for people who wish to browse and little else.

Cantona's Collars

Permanet service the Killarney area,might be a better option than Q-Sat.

http://www.permanet.ie/New/map.html

Lennoxschips

In Sweden, Tele2 offers the following mobile broadband packages:

25 euros/month: 25 Mb speed with 30 GB data limit. After limit is reached it still works, but the speed is drastically reduced for the rest of the month (To 0.2 Mb)

40 euros/month: 80 Mb speed with 80 GB data limit. Same story with speed reduction after limit is reached.

Now, why can't these services be offered in Ireland? What's the deal? Licensing of spectrum?

bealtine

Lennoxschips wrote: »

40 euros/month: 80 Mb speed with 80 GB data limit. Same story with speed reduction after limit is reached.

Now, why can't these services be offered in Ireland? What's the deal? Licensing of spectrum?

Because we have no real competition here, as all the mobile operators are acting as an oligarchy and dare not undercut each other by too much for fear of cutting their ARPU. Ever wonder why the ARPU for Vodafone customers is the highest in Europe, or thereabouts?
It's a holdover from the Celtic Tiger period, the period of gouging the customers as much as possible (extracting maximum ARPU), the period of greed that the operators have become accustomed to and they dare not change it.

Ratzo Rizzo

Q-Sat is a nasty ploy to raise enough money to buy Sunderland a decent striker and keep them in the premiership...

Herbert West

PogMoThoin wrote: »

Eh, Sorry, but no you can't. It's not broadband and never will be. You can't do anything in real time, like gaming, VoIP doesn't work well, VPN will never work. Highly optimised browsing is all you got and an hour watching Youtube will eat that monthly limit.

How do you think it could handle Netflix? Would it be fast enough for that? (under the Rural Broadband scheme they give you a 11gig cap - so you could watch a few films at least).

Why would VPN not work?

Thanks...

bealtine

Herbert West wrote: »

How do you think it could handle Netflix? Would it be fast enough for that? (under the Rural Broadband scheme they give you a 11gig cap - so you could watch a few films at least).

Why would VPN not work?

Thanks...

The caps are by hour on satellite and are tiny so probably not able to watch more than one or two movie a month.

See here for typical sat limits : http://www.onwave.ie/fair_usage_policy

VPN require low latency connections and sat cannot be called low latency. typical ping times can be 800ms or more

Herbert West

Thanks for that...

Qsat do mention in their brochure that 'VPN should work' on their connection. I imagine that means 'at the best of times' and can't be relied on. So VPN is always very unreliable over satellite?

I couldn't find any mention of caps are by hour on Qsat but thats not to say they don't exist. Can any one clarify this?