Real life racist?

Kevin Duffy

Are you?

Never mind the things you'd say on the internet, do you have the courage of your convictions to take it into real life?

Do you admit to your racism, or do you try to hide with "I'm not racist, but...."?

Do you spout through your keyboard, but sing a different tune when people can see your face, or you know you're in certain company?

Do you act on it? Do you treat people differently because of your difference?

Not interested in what your opinions are on any groups, just how you apply them in the real world.

To add my own view - I'm not racist and the views I express here would be the same as I would live out.

FatherLen

i am not racist against anyone but those romanian gypsies.... you know the ones..

Guill

i am not racist against anyone but those romanian gypsies.... you know the ones..

The Romanian ones?

squod

FatherLen wrote: »

i am not racist against anyone but those romanian gypsies.... you know the ones..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSFW

Kevin Duffy

FatherLen wrote: »

i am not racist against anyone but those romanian gypsies.... you know the ones..

Yes Father, but do you just spout it on the 'net or in real life?

KungPao

I am a Racist.

The 400m Hurdles makes me sick.

TheMrs

Nope, I'm not a racist. The only section of any society that irk me really are scumbags and some members of the travelling community. Overall I'm not a xenophobe or racist.

mackg

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Are you?

Never mind the things you'd say on the internet, do you have the courage of your convictions to take it into real life?

Do you admit to your racism, or do you try to hide with "I'm not racist, but...."?

Do you spout through your keyboard, but sing a different tune when people can see your face, or you know you're in certain company?

Do you act on it? Do you treat people differently because of your difference?

Not interested in what your opinions are on any groups, just how you apply them in the real world.

To add my own view - I'm not racist and the views I express here would be the same as I would live out.

No I am not. I joke about it but I treat everyone exactly the same, If I don't like someone it's them personally I don't like.

Guill

I am not a racist, i am a realist.

FatherLen

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Yes Father, but do you just spout it on the 'net or in real life?

well no i am not going to go up to every gypsie i see and start abusing them because then i would be a cunt.

bastados

Am not a racist I hate all immigrants equally.

Kevin Duffy

FatherLen wrote: »

well no i am not going to go up to every gypsie i see and start abusing them because then i would be a cunt.

But saying it on the 'net is different and acceptable for you. Ok, thanks.

sollar

I think we need to keep a tight eye on immigration. That doesn't make me racist but some people get worked up into a Politically Correct lather and accuse you of being one.

biko

Not sure, is Dublin a race?

sollar

biko wrote: »

Not sure, is Dublin a race?

Rat race

El Horseboxo

I hate whitey and I'm not shy in letting y'all know.

FatherLen

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

But saying it on the 'net is different and acceptable for you. Ok, thanks.

ha would you like me to get you a higher horse????
i cant really explain myself easily but i would never judge a person before getting to know them irrespective of there race, but i just hate when i am paying for the luas or sitting in traffic and a gypsie comes up and asks me for money. dont worry i feel the same fustration towards the irish junkies that do it too. i hold no ill feelings towards romanians but like in every community they have bad apples. so i apologise if i didnt explain myself fully.
also sorry if "gypsie" is not the pc word

wild_cat

I'm not racist on or offline and I'll tear strips off anyone who is around me offline.

Frank Black

Would you like a family of Travelers to move into the house beside you?


If you’ve answered ‘no’ to that question (and most of you have), then you’re a racist.

Herb Powell

I'm not racist, however racist jokes are hilarious. Mainly because I'm not racist.

wonderfulname

FatherLen wrote: »

ha would you like me to get you a higher horse????
i cant really explain myself easily but i would never judge a person before getting to know them irrespective of there race, but i just hate when i am paying for the luas or sitting in traffic and a gypsie comes up and asks me for money. dont worry i feel the same fustration towards the irish junkies that do it too. i hold no ill feelings towards romanians but like in every community they have bad apples. so i apologise if i didnt explain myself fully.
also sorry if "gypsie is not the pc word"

That's not really being racist though is it? It's not a random prejudice, you wouldn't turn someone down for a job for being from a gipsy family it's just the bloody beggars, at least that's how I feel about it.

I'm not a racist, but considering that no racist would consider themselves one that doesn't account for much, flawed thread is flawed.

Herb Powell

black francis wrote: »

Would you like a family of Travelers to move into the house beside you?


If you’ve answered ‘no’ to that question (and most of you have), then you’re a racist.

How the **** would that make you a racist?

wonderfulname

black francis wrote: »

Would you like a family of Travelers to move into the house beside you?


If you’ve answered ‘no’ to that question (and most of you have), then you’re a racist.

Really? Cause last time I checked travellers were the same race as settled people...

Strictly we should be talking about xenophobia here, still doesn't cover travellers but racism doesn't cover Europe although I ran with it in the last post...

bastados

sollar wrote: »

I think we need to keep a tight eye on immigration.

Yeah its more of a political standpoint...

Living next to people who lock their young kids in a house with a packet of biscuits for food while they go to work all day leaves an impression of that particular race embedded in your mind.

and yes the guards were called.

Frank Black

Herb Powell wrote: »

How the **** would that make you a racist?

Because you’ve made a decision purely based on your prejudices of a group of people from a different ethnic diversity.

wonderfulname

black francis wrote: »

Because you’ve made a decision purely based on your prejudices of a group of people from a different ethnic diversity.

Still not the definition of a racist...

stephen_k

black francis wrote: »

Would you like a family of Travelers to move into the house beside you?


If you’ve answered ‘no’ to that question (and most of you have), then you’re a racist.

Sorry but I disagree that they are a race, they are white caucasians, the same as the majority living in this country. The fact that they made the decision to live outside of society's norms doesn't make them a different race

Richard Hillman

I dont like Roma gypsies, im wary when im around black african people and when somebody that looks like he is from an islamic country gets on the bus with a back pack, my heartbeat ups a little.

Im not a bad person, im not gonna give them abuse about their race. Its just what goes on im my head when i come across these people.

orourkeda

Kevin Duffy wrote: »

Are you?

Never mind the things you'd say on the internet, do you have the courage of your convictions to take it into real life?

Do you admit to your racism, or do you try to hide with "I'm not racist, but...."?

Do you spout through your keyboard, but sing a different tune when people can see your face, or you know you're in certain company?

Do you act on it? Do you treat people differently because of your difference?

Not interested in what your opinions are on any groups, just how you apply them in the real world.

To add my own view - I'm not racist and the views I express here would be the same as I would live out.

Absolutely. In addition, anyone who tells that they are not prejudiced in some way is a liar.

squod

black francis wrote: »

Because you’ve made a decision purely based on your prejudices of a group of people from a different ethnic diversity.

racist
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Pronunciation:/ˈreɪsɪst/

noun
a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
adjective
having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another:
we are investigating complaints about racist abuse at a newsagents

Don't get you.

Frank Black

wonderfulname wrote: »

Really? Cause last time I checked travellers were the same race as settled people...

You need to check again.

Ush1

FatherLen wrote: »

ha would you like me to get you a higher horse????
i cant really explain myself easily but i would never judge a person before getting to know them irrespective of there race, but i just hate when i am paying for the luas or sitting in traffic and a gypsie comes up and asks me for money. dont worry i feel the same fustration towards the irish junkies that do it too. i hold no ill feelings towards romanians but like in every community they have bad apples. so i apologise if i didnt explain myself fully.
also sorry if "gypsie" is not the pc word

"I hear you're a racist now father!" :pac:

Riamfada

wonderfulname wrote: »

Really? Cause last time I checked travellers were the same race as settled people...

Strictly we should be talking about xenophobia here, still doesn't cover travellers but racism doesn't cover Europe although I ran with it in the last post...

Travellers claim a seperate ethnicity. Sorry to break it to you man but your a big dirty filthy racist bastard.

Frank Black

squod wrote: »

Don't get you.

What's not to get?

Race is classification of humans into large and distinct populations or groups by factors such as heritable phenotypic characteristics or geographic ancestry, but also often influenced by and correlated with traits such as appearance, culture, ethnicity, and socio-economic status.

wonderfulname

black francis wrote: »

You need to check again.

race 1 (rs)
n.
1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.

Cau·ca·sian (kô-kzhn, -kzhn)
adj.
1.
a. Anthropology Of or being a human racial classification distinguished especially by very light to brown skin pigmentation and straight to wavy or curly hair, and including peoples indigenous to Europe, northern Africa, western Asia, and India. See Usage Note at race1.

Yup, I'm still right...

fabbydabby

Whether or not I am a racist wholly depends on whether or not travellers are classified as a race.

Frank Black

wonderfulname wrote: »

Yup, I'm still right...

Fraid not.

the_syco

Guill wrote: »

The Romanian ones?

I know of no Romanian gypsies, but I hate the Roma ones. And 99% of the travelling community (who don't travel).

black francis wrote: »

Would you like a family of druggies to move into the house beside you?


If you’ve answered ‘no’ to that question (and most of you have), then you’re ignorant.

FYP.

fabbydabby

Will ye decide soon because I want to find out if I am a racist or not.

wild_cat

orourkeda wrote: »

Absolutely. In addition, anyone who tells that they are not prejudiced in some way is a liar.

I hate children no matter what their race is. So that's my prejudice covered.

Frank Black

fabbydabby wrote: »

Whether or not I am a racist wholly depends on whether or not travellers are classified as a race.

My point exactly.

wonderfulname

Riamfada wrote: »

Travellers claim a seperate ethnicity. Sorry to break it to you man but your a big dirty filthy racist bastard.

I love how not seeing any distinction between myself and a traveller outside of culture and heritage makes me the bad guy

Richard Hillman

Being a traveller is a lifestyle choice not a race.

wonderfulname

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Being a traveller is a lifestyle choice not a race.

It's not a lifestyle choice in all fairness, there's a culture and heritage to it, you don't just up and decide to be a traveller you're born one.

RGDATA!

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Being a traveller is a lifestyle choice not a race.

is being Irish a lifestyle choice?

Chairman Meow

Not racist, as in i wouldnt look down on someone of a different colour or wouldnt not talk to them if i worked with the or something.
However ill freely admit to not particularly liking Romas & Travellers. Again not because of the colour of their skin, but because ive never met one who was positively contributing anything to society.

Tho to be brutally honest, as a white man, who grew up in Ireland when it was 99% white Irish people, sometimes it does unnerve me a little to be sitting on a bus surrounded by Asians or hearing nothing but foreign voices. Not that id ever turn around and say go home yiz foreidnn bastards, but it is a but weird still.

Cavehill Red

Genetic science has demonstrated that the Victorian concept of race is inherently flawed and useless.

The concomitant concept of 'racism' can therefore mean whatever people want it to mean, as we see on this thread with people claiming that the genetically identical Travellers are somehow a separate 'race' from the rest of the Irish.

As a result of this flexible definition, the threat of 'racism' can be used to stifle debate, about for example immigration, and can be used to seek to enforce both multiculturalism (itself another misnomer), diversity (yet another misnomer) and the insistence that these are universally good and essential developments for society that must be accepted and welcomed by all.

I treat people as I find them as individuals. There is no group of people I judge collectively. Having said that, I think those who do not learn from their own past are fools, destined to repeat the same mistakes seeking different outcomes. Therefore, having had disproportionate numbers of run-ins with certain segments of society in the past, I now generally seek to avoid having such run-ins in future by limiting my engagement with those segments of society.

Yes, this is prejudging, or prejudice. That is human nature, predicated on our ability to learn from experience. I won't be browbeaten by anyone with the threat of 'racism' or any other boogeyman into undoing the lessons I've learnt through my own experience and analysis. If, for example, I find that Travellers thieve from me, I'll generally avoid that community. If, for example, I discover that a disproportionate number of rapists of white women in America are African-American, I will advise such women to limit their engagement with African-American men in circumstances that could lead to rape, such as late at night while drinking. If, for example, I find that Roma gypsies are going door-to-door seeking to intimidate old people and steal or beg from them, I will advise old people of my acquaintance not to open the door to Roma gypsies.

It isn't my responsibility to be Jesus Christ and forgive all sinners their sins. If certain sections of society don't like their public reputation, they ought to work within their own communities to reverse the behaviour of those among them letting them down.

rainbowdrop

black francis wrote: »

Would you like a family of Travelers to move into the house beside you?


If you’ve answered ‘no’ to that question (and most of you have), then you’re a racist.

I live across the road from a halting site and tbf they are grand, they have never done me any harm in the 8 years that I'v lived here. They are 'travellers' but not 'knackers', if you get my meaning? ie they keep the halting site clean and tidy, they are forever out washing the footpath, and they have lovely flowers/hanging baskets decorating the place.

In saying that, I have never had a conversation with any of them that went further than 'hello' and I don't know most of their names. They live their life, I live mine and we have nothing to do with each other.

Contrast that to my other neighbours who I have also lived beside for 8years...... I know all their names, I would chat to them over the fence and if I was planning to go away for a few days holiday, I would ask them to keep an eye on my house. I would never, ever tell the travellers that I was going away because I would be afraid that they would get their relatives to rob my house while I'm gone.

Does this make me prejudiced against travellers? Probably! But I wouldn't say it to their face cos I'm a coward:o

wonderfulname

Cavehill Red wrote: »

Genetic science has demonstrated that the Victorian concept of race is inherently flawed and useless.

The concomitant concept of 'racism' can therefore mean whatever people want it to mean, as we see on this thread with people claiming that the genetically identical Travellers are somehow a separate 'race' from the rest of the Irish.

It's well known that scientifically the concept of race is bullsh*t, that doesn't change the fact that a lot of people still think like Victorians and hence it is still relevant from a social perspective.

JohnMarston

It's just that the farm takes up most of my day, and at night I just like a cup of tea, I don't think I could devote meself full time to the old racism

Ush1

People may be mistaken on many travellers being the same race as us. Many of them marry with English gypsies which would be of Romanichal stock.