Goldendoodle for sale?

MarthaMyDear

What about a bichon frise?

I think they're hyper allergenic (correct me if I'm wrong!)

And their really good with kids. Don't come in gold though but they're lovely looking dogs

Shanao

andreac wrote: »

Are you sure they are standard poodles?? They dont look like standard poodles to me at all. There muzzles are far too wide as a standard poodles are much narrower and their head wouldnt be as broad as that at all.

That's what I found when I googled standard poodle with natural coat. The muzzle and head do look quite broad but I would imagine that's because of the hair.
Here, there's links with natural coat poodles:
http://prideinlife.com/2011/02/boston-daycared/
http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n51/leolordens/?action=view&current=Gemma9mths.jpg&newest=1

kierancos

Thanks everyone for all the help!

Still havent decided yet what to get but now I might consider even a dalmation..


Thanks!

DBB

kierancos wrote: »

Thanks everyone for all the help!

Still havent decided yet what to get but now I might consider even a dalmation..


Thanks!

Did you not say you need a non-shed/low-shed dog as you are allergic to hair?

pokertalk

you would be doing very well to find a healthy bloodline
problems include:deafness or limited hearing in one or both ears so test results would have to be provided by the breeder,bladder stones and eye problems.

kierancos

Yea but at the mmoment i dont have a clue :P

pokertalk

if you get a poodle you can still get a reaction from touching him but at least hairs will not be everywhere. if you do get a dog that sheds all you have to do is keep the house clean of dog hair and keep him well groomed .im alllergic to dog saliva too but i have two dogs so it is very manageable . keep him off your bed and off chairs and you should be fine.
with this in mind you should be able to broaden your selection?

kierancos

We've nearly decided now. Looks like we're gonna get this one not really sure though. :P

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/dogs/2215130

ppink

I am looking at the second last photo on that ad Kierancos and wonder how come there is a little pup right beside what looks like a different age pup.

Please make sure this is not a puppy farm..

Mr. Presentable

€350.00 for a mongrel. And they say the Celtic Tiger era has gone.

Shanao

kierancos wrote: »

We've nearly decided now. Looks like we're gonna get this one not really sure though. :P

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/dogs/2215130

Please, please, please do not get one of these dogs. Donedeal is riddled with irresponsible breeders and no reputable breeder would advertise there. These pups are mongrels with a fancy name, so please dont get tricked into paying money for them. The puppies are clearly kept outside in a shed on straw so I doubt they'll be socialised properly with people or any of the normal noises a puppy should be hearing in the house. By getting one of these puppies, your family are taking on a lot of trouble, trust me.

Shammy

ppink wrote: »

I am looking at the second last photo on that ad Kierancos and wonder how come there is a little pup right beside what looks like a different age pup.

Please make sure this is not a puppy farm..

I'm guessing runt of the litter .

Shanao wrote: »

Please, please, please do not get one of these dogs. Donedeal is riddled with irresponsible breeders and no reputable breeder would advertise there.

While i agree that there are many irresponsible breeders on donedeal there are also reputable breeders that advertise as well .

tk123

Shammy wrote: »

I'm guessing runt of the litter .



While i agree that there are many irresponsible breeders on donedeal there are also reputable breeders that advertise as well .

Very true and they breed healthy happy pups with the parents hip scored and health tested. But in this case imo it's not a reputable breeder because they wouldn't want to damage their reputation and break IKC rules by cross breeding. Also why no pictures of the parents - I'd want to show them off?

For a labradoodle I'd want the parents to be doodles and see them both so I'd know what to expect? The labradoodle I know looks like like a brillo pad lol - a full lab or full poodle would be my preference - actually a full choc lab and give it a chocolate related name :pac:

andreac

Please stay away from donedeal when buying a dog, you are really asking for trouble. This website is full of very dodgy breeders and puppy farmers. I hoenstly dont think ive ever heard one good report from someone whos bought a dog from this site:mad:

€350 for a mongrel, are you mad???:eek: Seriously though, i urge you to contact a breed club and go through a reputable breeder who health tests, which you wont find on donedeal...

Shammy

andreac wrote: »

Please stay away from donedeal when buying a dog, you are really asking for trouble. This website is full of very dodgy breeders and puppy farmers. I hoenstly dont think ive ever heard one good report from someone whos bought a dog from this site:mad:

€350 for a mongrel, are you mad???:eek: Seriously though, i urge you to contact a breed club and go through a reputable breeder who health tests, which you wont find on donedeal...

I got my bitch from Donedeal from a reputable breeder , father was sg1 at that years irish sieger and mother is a Quenn daughter . I've never had a dog with such great drives , she is also a half sister to this posters bitch http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=73434952&postcount=22 .

But yes i agree i would stay away from cross breeds.

star-pants

Guys can we please not make sweeping generalisations about all people on DoneDeal, yes there are a lot of dodgy ads but there are also some real ones and it would be helpful to show people the difference between the two so they will know what to look out for, on that site or any other site.

I too got my pedigree pup (now 2&half) on DoneDeal, not from a puppy farmer, and I was just very careful about the ads and the photos and the advertisers.

Cows Go µ

Shammy wrote: »

I'm guessing runt of the litter.

Would there really be that much of a difference between the runt and the rest of the litter? That's a fairly substantial difference. I remember being told that responsible breeders wouldn't let the difference get too big by getting the runt to feed as often as possible. But I could be talking bollox.

You can get good breeders on Donedeal, we got our first sheltie there and we sold one that wasn't show quality there too. But you do have to be very very careful and you would be asking a hell of a lot of questions off the breeders. I wouldn't really be trusting anyone selling a mongrel unless it was an opps litter and they are just charging to cover the costs of rearing the pups

Chris_Heilong

I am not having a go at Donedeals but the amount of Malamutes I have seen for sale that have blue eyes and are also IKC registered is not funny (a malamute can not have blue eyes unless crossed with an other breed that carries the gene such as a Siberian Husky) and for a pretty penny too. Its a mine feild and buyers just be careful is all I would advise.

Edit: actually there is one there now with "Green Eyes"

DBB

Others have already given fair warning about buying one of these pups.

What concerns me most of all is that they say the mother, a Labrador, is 'protective' of the home...
Protective? A LABRADOR? Major alarm bells here OP. I would not, ever, want a pet pup who's mother is 'protective' around the house, certainly not when she's a breed who should be friendly, happy and trustworthy with all comers.

Be it on your own head OP. You can't say you weren't warned, despite getting some great advice.

kierancos

Lads i'm fairly confused now

Cherry Blossom

kierancos wrote: »

Lads i'm fairly confused now

I'd say you should make up your mind what you want first, do you actually have allergies or is it just that dog hair aggravates your asthma? Figure out what breed suits you best in terms of how much company it's going to have, how much exercise you can provide it with and whether it's suitable for your asthma and if you are willing to put the work into grooming, a good grooming twice a day for any dog I would imagine will make a huge difference to your asthma. Make a decision on the breed then visit a few dog shows and meet some dogs of that breed. See if you can find a breeder or just an owner who will let you visit their home and get up close and personal with their dogs so you can see if you will have any adverse reactions to them. If you decide to go ahead you can get contact details for the relevant breed club from the IKC website. The breed club should be able to give you contact details for reputable breeders in your area or a bit further afield if you are open to travelling.

PS - No need to type so big, I don't think anyone here is blind

Zapperzy

OP have you actually showed this thread to your parents? Given that your 15 I would presume it's them that are doing the looking for the dog and them that have the final say? Please either show them this thread or give them the information on it, posters here have given you good advice you should listen to it.

You haven't said how much exercise a day you are able to give a dog just that you live in the country. Both labradors and poodles are quite high energy breeds so a labradoodle will require quite a lot of exercise, without this exercise they are going to find other ways to exert their energy by digging up the garden, nuisance barking, chewing furniture and just generally doing annoying things.

You say you have allergies, labradoodles are not hypoallergenic as some people would like you to believe (namely those that sell them) so you most likely will end up with a reaction to this dog. Now I have no experience with allergies myself but do listen to what others have said about how best to groom them to reduce allergic reactions.

Labradoodles will also have to have a lot of grooming every single day otherwise they will matt (which is very painful for the dog). They will probably (unless you buy a set of clippers and learn how to do it yourself) need to be brought for professional grooming a few times a year, I pay €30-€40 for a small terrier with a short wirey coat so I would imagine it would be close to €75 for a large dog even more if they are matted.

Have a read of these threads http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056295154 and http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056331541 And show your parent's these also.

john t

Anybody think Kierancos at 15yrs old and on internet at nyt time as he has been is a wind up artist, he seems too end all sentences with ha...

nudag

A Troll if i ever saw one!

kierancos

Thanks for all the help, well from some people. Can't even put ha at the end of a sentence without getting my head eat off. But most people have been great help

DBB

Kierancos,
What do your folks want from a dog? And you? And other members of the family.. I don;t know if you've younger brothers and sisters, but they need to be factored in too!
It might be more helpful not to get caught up with different breeds right now, but concentrate what sort of personality or behaviour types you think would really suit you and your folks. Write it all down.
Once you've an idea what you'd like, and perhaps more importantly know what you don't want, then you could start to shortlist specific breeds that are most likely to tick the boxes for you as a family.
There are so many breeds to choose from out there, it's easy to get bamboozled. But many, many dogs end up being got rid of by 2 years of age because they don't actually fit in with the needs and realities of the home they were bought for. One of the biggest contributors to this problem is people buying dogs because they look cute/butch/gentle/fierce, but not heeding what the underlying behavioural characteristics are most likely to be.
So, maybe have a really long think about it, get a bit of structure on what you think might suit you and your family, then by all means ask for opinions on it. You certainly cannot be criticised for looking for help!

closifer

Shanao wrote: »

Cant really help you out on that, and I'm not trying to be offensive, but just wondering if you realise that these are a 'designer breed', in other words a made-up name for a crossbreed, and no reputable breeders breed them?

Would just like to point out that a lot of dogs that are "real" breeds started off as a mix between two existing breeds and after years became breeds in their own right. I used to have a shetland sheepdog - they were originally a mix between a king charles and a rough collie.

Likewise -Min Pinschers were a cross between an italian greyhound and a dachshund. there are numerous other examples. Some of these dogs (golden doodle, puggle etc etc) may well be officially recognised breeds in the future.

Sometimes "designer breeds" become real breeds. I think people are always a little quick to judge on this one...

DBB

closifer wrote: »

Sometimes "designer breeds" become real breeds. I think people are always a little quick to judge on this one...

It is indeed the case that most breeds had other breeds thrown into the mix at some stage, and some breeds are still outbreed with one of their "foundation breeds" to improve genetic diversity.
But I don't think this is the issue here. The issue here is that most of the people who are breeding designer crossbreeds in Ireland now are doing it entirely for money. They are certainly not doing it with the intention of creating a new breed or to improve the genetic stock of any breed.
For goodness sake, many of the breeders don't even have to terminology right, calling them "hybrids", which they are not. They call their crossbreeds "non-shed", "hypoallergenic" etc even though one of the parents is a shedding breed, so they can't possibly make this call until the pup has it's adult coat. They say the pup has the best of both parental traits... again, nobody can call this until the pup is an adult. They say the pup will take the healthy bits of both parents... completely untrue and again not discernable until the pup is old enough to be diagnosed with various conditions.
The proof is in the pudding, there are many -doodles, -chons and -achis out there who completely scupper what their breeders claimed about them. But what do the breeders care at this stage? The pups are gone and their money is made.
I have to say, I'm always deeply suspicious of any breeder who doesn't know their breed(s) well enough to be able to spell the breed name properly, or to know the difference between a crossbreed and a hybrid. If they were good enough breeders, they'd have at least this basic level of research done.
So no, I don't believe the issue is the creation of new breeds. It is the mass-production of cutesy pups for money. Nothing more, nothing less.

kierancos

Everybody wants a dog in the house. Were only getting one now thats all - Some people are asking do my parents mind. Were going to ring a few people about a Beagle tomorrow - what do yez think of this lad?
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andreac

Have you not read or listened to what anyone had to say about done deal at all??