Goldendoodle for sale?

kierancos

Well lads, this is my first post so tell me if i'm doing anything wrong !

I've been looking for a Goldendoodle puppy for sale but can't find any on Donedeal. I live in Carlow so one for sale in Donegal won't be much use. If anyone knows where there is one for sale could ya let me know.

Thanks.

Shanao

Cant really help you out on that, and I'm not trying to be offensive, but just wondering if you realise that these are a 'designer breed', in other words a made-up name for a crossbreed, and no reputable breeders breed them?

are you serious

A Golden what? :eek:


I'm just gona sit here and watch this explode.... I dont expect you to get much help...

kierancos

Well what kind of a dog am i talking about? I don't really know much about dogs sorry ha ! What kind of a dog would you call this -

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KR0totQEcBA/TWCLI2jlgrI/AAAAAAAAAtw/lbWEub9PCn8/s1600/Goldendoodle-Puppies-For-Sale-2.jpg

Thanks!

Shanao

A goldendoodle is a cross between a retriever and a poodle, so basically a mongrel, that is bred for no other purpose than to make money for its breeder. It is not going to be a lowshed or nonshed dog as the breeder may claim as it takes more than one generation to produce a nonshed puppy. The parents of these puppies will also not have been healthtested so you're puppy will be at risk to all defects known in retrievers and poodles: heart problems, hips problems, elbow problems, eyes problems etc. From what I have seen of them they are extremely high maintenance dogs and many of them end up being somewhat aggressive because their owners cannot provide the physical and mental stimulation these highly intelligent dogs need.
Can I ask what exactly is attracting you to them?

pokertalk

op at least your coming here to do some research before buying a dog so fair play to yo please read this thread http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056331541

kierancos

@Shanao Their looks really! ha

kierancos

Oh forgot to say I have asthma and allergic to the fur so a non shed dog would be nice

Shanao

Like I said, a goldendoodle wont be nonshed, they have to be a few generations in and hair samples have to be sent off to be tested before they can be called hypoallergenic, and even then you'll be lucky to get one puppy that is noneshed out of an entire litter. You'd be much better off with a purebred poodle from a good, responsible breeder.

kierancos

Do you know of any other dogs that are non shed and that look nice? I don't think the poodle look that nice. I would like to buy a nice dog when im going to spend money at all, as they're fair dear.

Shanao

How would you feel about one of these:

kierancos

There lovely but i'd like a golden coloured one if you know what I mean.

Shanao

Well is it a big dog or a small dog you're thinking of getting? There are a few purebred dogs that are classed as low - nonshed, but if you are going to get one, best thing you can do is contact a reputable responsible breeder and spend a good half an hour in a room, near to the dogs so you can see if you're asthma flares up or not.

Those are Irish Water Spaniels above, unfortunately they dont come in gold.

kierancos

Size isn't a problem as we have a huge garden and live in the country side but obviously i wouldnt like a big alsation because theres a 4 year old in the house so we would like a playful dog. Might go to the pound during the week either. Bet those dogs above are there! Look kind of like a Red Setter. Thanks

john t

Kieracos no such dog breed exist as goldendoodle, and its actually a silly name.. You may have seen a dog called this type but really cop on and purchase a mayb spaniel they are great dog and loyal pet.. Yes you saw a mongrel called a hate too say goldendoodle and im laughfing as i write.... Dont know shano but i back him up and say pick good rescue and keep away from dog with fancy name....

Shanao

Good on you for going to the pound. You'd be surprised what kinds of dogs people get rid of; some rescues and pounds may even have labradoodles or goldendoodles. The main thing though is that they are mongrels and people are charging outrageous money for something that has no health guarantees or kennel club papers.
Funny you should say that about the alsation, i met a woman today who has a twelve month old one who is completely focused on her daughter the whole time; no matter what or where her daughter is, the dog is with her, plays with her and snuggles up with her. A lot of breeds are quite good with children, its just that people give them a bad name.

kierancos

Ok know of any other dogs that fit the description ha??

kierancos

Thanks Shanao youve been a lot of help ha! You know what i mean about the alsation though ha.. Would there be mostly puppies in pound? I;m only 15 i got no idea ha..

Shanao

Around this time of year there a lot of puppies and adult dogs in the pounds alright so there should be a few.

What do you think of these two dogs? Although, they do look very alike

john t

kierancos at 15yrs old your too young too own an alsation, plus they recquire a lot of time and effort/ trainning....

pokertalk

john t wrote: »

kierancos at 15yrs old your too young too own an alsation, plus they recquire a lot of time and effort/ trainning....

you will also need to bring your parents with you:)

kierancos

Theyre lovely ha.. what are they?

Shanao

They're both standard poodles, they just dont have the poodle show haircut. I wouldn't go counting out some breeds just yet:D

DBB

Shanao, you is bold:D

But you beat me to it: the poodle left "in the rough" is a fine looking dog. I can understand why people might be put off by the, well, poncey look of the show-clipped poodle, but an unclipped poodle is a real head-turner. A super dog.;)

kierancos

Ha yea I would have thought poodles would look a bit different than that but theyre loverly yea. Dou bt you'd find one of them into the pound though ha!

RubyGirl

Hi, are your parent on board with you getting a dog, poodles require alot of grooming, are you going to do this yourself or take him/her to the groomers, (who's going to pay?).

There are some lovely black lab pups looking for homes on Last Hope Charity in Navan.
http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=232880840085518&set=t.100000393638965&type=1&theater
Just a thought regarding this breed.

kierancos

Yea theyre the ones who want the dog ha! You dont need to groom them if theyre like the ones above

Oranage2

well lad you're 15 and at your age you might think it would be deadly to get a dog but have a long hard think about it -

Are you're parents getting this dog under the condition that you'll be the only one looking after it?


Also a goldendoodle which i can only assume would be a golden retriever/poodle cross - both those breed of dogs need a lot of exercise and a lot of mental stimulation - and will you/family be capable of doing this day in day out for the next 8-12 years?

I'm not saying you should not get a dog - all im saying is maybe get a dog that will be easier to meet its requirments because a young lad like yourself will be wanting to go to college or hang out with mates and you wont really have the time to really give the dog what it need in a few years time when you're 18-19 espiecally a dog like a goldendoodle -

Maybe get a smaller terrier thats hypogenic or even go to the pound/rescue and pick up a small/medium short haired terrier -

star-pants

garkane wrote: »

A Golden what? :eek:

I'm just gona sit here and watch this explode.... I dont expect you to get much help...

That is just a pointless post, please don't post like that in future

I'm glad to see Shanao being very helpful in trying to idenify other dogs that may suit the OP.

Kierancos - it's good that you will also look in the pounds/rescues as you may find a dog that suits you there. Please do listen to the decent advice given in the thread (as you seem to be doing already).

andreac

Shanao wrote: »

They're both standard poodles, they just dont have the poodle show haircut. I wouldn't go counting out some breeds just yet:D

Are you sure they are standard poodles?? They dont look like standard poodles to me at all. There muzzles are far too wide as a standard poodles are much narrower and their head wouldnt be as broad as that at all.

tk123

kierancos wrote: »

Yea theyre the ones who want the dog ha! You dont need to groom them if theyre like the ones above

You'll still need to do some grooming now matter how non-shed the dog is. They get wet and mucky and smelly, roll in poo etc :pac: I find it's not the fur that causes me problems (on inhalers and steroids all year round) it's the dander/dead skin. I have a retriever and I keep him well groomed so doesn't cause me any problems at all. By well groomed I mean that he swims at least once a week so that loosens the hair - i just brush him down once he's dry and I don't have any problems at all. I've only gotten him professionally groomed once and he rolled in poo then jumped in the river the next day so never again lol:pac::pac:
I don't know anyone with a goldendoodle but I know somebody with a labradoodle and his fur is always getting matted. I'm sure I've read posts here from groomers who have said the same thing - that their coats can get matted easily and need a lot of care.

MarthaMyDear

What about a bichon frise?

I think they're hyper allergenic (correct me if I'm wrong!)

And their really good with kids. Don't come in gold though but they're lovely looking dogs

Shanao

andreac wrote: »

Are you sure they are standard poodles?? They dont look like standard poodles to me at all. There muzzles are far too wide as a standard poodles are much narrower and their head wouldnt be as broad as that at all.

That's what I found when I googled standard poodle with natural coat. The muzzle and head do look quite broad but I would imagine that's because of the hair.
Here, there's links with natural coat poodles:
http://prideinlife.com/2011/02/boston-daycared/
http://s109.photobucket.com/albums/n51/leolordens/?action=view&current=Gemma9mths.jpg&newest=1

kierancos

Thanks everyone for all the help!

Still havent decided yet what to get but now I might consider even a dalmation..


Thanks!

DBB

kierancos wrote: »

Thanks everyone for all the help!

Still havent decided yet what to get but now I might consider even a dalmation..


Thanks!

Did you not say you need a non-shed/low-shed dog as you are allergic to hair?

pokertalk

you would be doing very well to find a healthy bloodline
problems include:deafness or limited hearing in one or both ears so test results would have to be provided by the breeder,bladder stones and eye problems.

kierancos

Yea but at the mmoment i dont have a clue :P

pokertalk

if you get a poodle you can still get a reaction from touching him but at least hairs will not be everywhere. if you do get a dog that sheds all you have to do is keep the house clean of dog hair and keep him well groomed .im alllergic to dog saliva too but i have two dogs so it is very manageable . keep him off your bed and off chairs and you should be fine.
with this in mind you should be able to broaden your selection?

kierancos

We've nearly decided now. Looks like we're gonna get this one not really sure though. :P

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/dogs/2215130

ppink

I am looking at the second last photo on that ad Kierancos and wonder how come there is a little pup right beside what looks like a different age pup.

Please make sure this is not a puppy farm..

Mr. Presentable

€350.00 for a mongrel. And they say the Celtic Tiger era has gone.

Shanao

kierancos wrote: »

We've nearly decided now. Looks like we're gonna get this one not really sure though. :P

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/dogs/2215130

Please, please, please do not get one of these dogs. Donedeal is riddled with irresponsible breeders and no reputable breeder would advertise there. These pups are mongrels with a fancy name, so please dont get tricked into paying money for them. The puppies are clearly kept outside in a shed on straw so I doubt they'll be socialised properly with people or any of the normal noises a puppy should be hearing in the house. By getting one of these puppies, your family are taking on a lot of trouble, trust me.

Shammy

ppink wrote: »

I am looking at the second last photo on that ad Kierancos and wonder how come there is a little pup right beside what looks like a different age pup.

Please make sure this is not a puppy farm..

I'm guessing runt of the litter .

Shanao wrote: »

Please, please, please do not get one of these dogs. Donedeal is riddled with irresponsible breeders and no reputable breeder would advertise there.

While i agree that there are many irresponsible breeders on donedeal there are also reputable breeders that advertise as well .

tk123

Shammy wrote: »

I'm guessing runt of the litter .



While i agree that there are many irresponsible breeders on donedeal there are also reputable breeders that advertise as well .

Very true and they breed healthy happy pups with the parents hip scored and health tested. But in this case imo it's not a reputable breeder because they wouldn't want to damage their reputation and break IKC rules by cross breeding. Also why no pictures of the parents - I'd want to show them off?

For a labradoodle I'd want the parents to be doodles and see them both so I'd know what to expect? The labradoodle I know looks like like a brillo pad lol - a full lab or full poodle would be my preference - actually a full choc lab and give it a chocolate related name :pac:

andreac

Please stay away from donedeal when buying a dog, you are really asking for trouble. This website is full of very dodgy breeders and puppy farmers. I hoenstly dont think ive ever heard one good report from someone whos bought a dog from this site:mad:

€350 for a mongrel, are you mad???:eek: Seriously though, i urge you to contact a breed club and go through a reputable breeder who health tests, which you wont find on donedeal...

Shammy

andreac wrote: »

Please stay away from donedeal when buying a dog, you are really asking for trouble. This website is full of very dodgy breeders and puppy farmers. I hoenstly dont think ive ever heard one good report from someone whos bought a dog from this site:mad:

€350 for a mongrel, are you mad???:eek: Seriously though, i urge you to contact a breed club and go through a reputable breeder who health tests, which you wont find on donedeal...

I got my bitch from Donedeal from a reputable breeder , father was sg1 at that years irish sieger and mother is a Quenn daughter . I've never had a dog with such great drives , she is also a half sister to this posters bitch http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=73434952&postcount=22 .

But yes i agree i would stay away from cross breeds.

star-pants

Guys can we please not make sweeping generalisations about all people on DoneDeal, yes there are a lot of dodgy ads but there are also some real ones and it would be helpful to show people the difference between the two so they will know what to look out for, on that site or any other site.

I too got my pedigree pup (now 2&half) on DoneDeal, not from a puppy farmer, and I was just very careful about the ads and the photos and the advertisers.

Cows Go µ

Shammy wrote: »

I'm guessing runt of the litter.

Would there really be that much of a difference between the runt and the rest of the litter? That's a fairly substantial difference. I remember being told that responsible breeders wouldn't let the difference get too big by getting the runt to feed as often as possible. But I could be talking bollox.

You can get good breeders on Donedeal, we got our first sheltie there and we sold one that wasn't show quality there too. But you do have to be very very careful and you would be asking a hell of a lot of questions off the breeders. I wouldn't really be trusting anyone selling a mongrel unless it was an opps litter and they are just charging to cover the costs of rearing the pups

Chris_Heilong

I am not having a go at Donedeals but the amount of Malamutes I have seen for sale that have blue eyes and are also IKC registered is not funny (a malamute can not have blue eyes unless crossed with an other breed that carries the gene such as a Siberian Husky) and for a pretty penny too. Its a mine feild and buyers just be careful is all I would advise.

Edit: actually there is one there now with "Green Eyes"

DBB

Others have already given fair warning about buying one of these pups.

What concerns me most of all is that they say the mother, a Labrador, is 'protective' of the home...
Protective? A LABRADOR? Major alarm bells here OP. I would not, ever, want a pet pup who's mother is 'protective' around the house, certainly not when she's a breed who should be friendly, happy and trustworthy with all comers.

Be it on your own head OP. You can't say you weren't warned, despite getting some great advice.

kierancos

Lads i'm fairly confused now