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Archie's NFL/NCAA Log 2011/2012

  • 25-07-2011 6:07pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭


    Today is as good a day as any to launch the new log - the lockout is officially over :)

    Had a hell of a lot of fun last year, made some money, learned some lessons and lost years off my life. Will throw up my first few picks in a couple of weeks with some season previews dotted along the way, but I just needed to mark the occasion,

    Footballs back folks :D


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  • Moderators Posts: 8,754 ✭✭✭x PyRo


    Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaah.

    :pac:

    Glad to have you back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭LightningBolt


    Tom_Brady wrote: »
    Today is as good a day as any to launch the new log - the lockout is officially over :)

    Had a hell of a lot of fun last year, made some money, learned some lessons and lost years off my life. Will throw up my first few picks in a couple of weeks with some season previews dotted along the way, but I just needed to mark the occasion,

    Footballs back folks :D

    Welcome back lad!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭johnmcdnl


    Gonna take into the NFL betting this year so time to see how much I really know :p

    This is gonna be my first year watching college ball so gonna take a step back but I'll be really interested in seeing how you get on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭fkiely


    Great to have you back. Looking forward to the new season and your selections.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭CriticEyes


    Hey man. Welcome back i look forward to your posts. Best of luck with the new log. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Before I go into any of my weekly game bets, I'm going lay out 25 points on the following season-long bets, and revisit this come the end of the year. They're not as fun as the game bets, simply because it's a longer wait to see if they're successful or not, but there's a couple of them I really like. I'll track these separate to the rest of my weekly bets which will probably have a bank of 100 points. Anyway, for now...

    5 pts on Julio Jones - Offensive Rookie MVP @ 5/1 (Bet365)

    It's going to be a hard year for rookies with the shortened off season and less time to get to grips with the step up to the professional game, but I think Julio Jones is in the best position to do so, for several reasons. First, he'll be stepping right into an offence with a veteran-like QB in Matt Ryan and two explosive players on offence in Michael Turner and Roddy White, which means defences will not double up on Jones. He'll see plenty of targets from Ryan, especially in the red zone which is reason number two - he'll rack up a lot of TDs. He's explosive in the red zone. Three, Jones is a very smart player, and a terrific route runner. He's best equipped of all the rookie receivers to make a quick jump up the NFL. Finally, there are a few teams on the Falcons schedule who are weak through the air which is a good match up for Jones. Word has it that he has blown away critics, coaches and team mates with his performances in training camp so far. Oh, and another reason is that his competition for the award aren't too appealing. I'd be shocked if a rookie QB got the award because of a) the awful teams they are on, and b) the shortened offseason and lack of familiarity with the playbook. The latter also applies to running backs too, while Mark Ingram has Darren Sproles and Pierre Thomas to share carries with in New Orleans, and Mikel LeShoure will be behind Jahvid Best in Detroit. Julio Jones is a stud, and 5/1 is good value.

    5 pts on Ray Rice - Most Rushing Yards @ 20/1 (Bet365)

    Rice is my favourite to lead the NFL in rushing yards for a variety of reasons. He's the feature back in Baltimore, and has the best full back in the league now blocking for him. Vontae Leach was a big reason Arian Foster put up the numbers he did last year, and I like him to Rice a big favour this year. Rice's competition in Chris Johnson and Adrian Peterson have terrible offensive lines in front of them which will harm their production, and Arian Foster is his only real threat but it would be a rarity if he finished as the leading rusher twice in a row. Jamaal Charles will continue to split carries in Kansas, while Maurice Jones Drew and Michael Turner are injury concerns. Ray Rice is in a great spot to lead the league this year.

    10 pts on Washington Redskins - Under 6.5 wins @ 8/15 (Victor Chandler)

    The Redskins are awful, I'm going to have a ball betting against them this year. I don't see 7 games that they stand a chance in, let alone could win in their schedule this year. The ones in bold are games that they have a chance of not getting the crap beat out of them. Giants, Cardinals, @ Cowboys, @ Rams, Eagles, @ Panthers, @ Bills, 49ers, @ Dolphins, Cowboys, @ Seahawks, Jets, Patriots, @ Giants, Vikings, @ Eagles. That's six games I give them a shot of not being embarrassed in. Another way of looking at is my QB rule. Look at the best teams in the league - Patriots, Packers, Saints, Colts, Steelers - all have recognisable quarterbacks. These QBs are recognisable because they're good, and damn good too. Now look at some of the worst teams in the league last year - Panthers, Cardinals, Bills, Titans, Browns etc. All had rubbish, barely recognisable QBs. Now consider the Redskins QB - John Beck. Here we have a man who is supposed to be your leader and your voice. Well, John Beck was refused entry to the Redskins stadium during the lockout because security didn't know who he was. Oh God, my money is so safe here.

    5 pts on Landry Jones - Heisman Trophy Winner 7/1 (SkyBet)

    Landry Jones will be a superstar, and I like him to win the Heisman because of his own talent, and because of the talent of those around him. They're a fantastic team, which bodes well for Jones' Heisman aspirations. He'll be there or thereabouts, I don't think Andrew Luck will be as impressive as last year, I think Marcus Lattimore is a year shy of winning it, and my other favourite Denard Robinson has the misfortune of playing for Michigan. My money is with Landry Jones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭LightningBolt


    Tom_Brady wrote: »

    5 pts on Julio Jones - Offensive Rookie MVP @ 5/1 (Bet365)

    It's going to be a hard year for rookies with the shortened off season and less time to get to grips with the step up to the professional game, but I think Julio Jones is in the best position to do so, for several reasons. First, he'll be stepping right into an offence with a veteran-like QB in Matt Ryan and two explosive players on offence in Michael Turner and Roddy White, which means defences will not double up on Jones. He'll see plenty of targets from Ryan, especially in the red zone which is reason number two - he'll rack up a lot of TDs. He's explosive in the red zone. Three, Jones is a very smart player, and a terrific route runner. He's best equipped of all the rookie receivers to make a quick jump up the NFL. Finally, there are a few teams on the Falcons schedule who are weak through the air which is a good match up for Jones. Word has it that he has blown away critics, coaches and team mates with his performances in training camp so far. Oh, and another reason is that his competition for the award aren't too appealing. I'd be shocked if a rookie QB got the award because of a) the awful teams they are on, and b) the shortened offseason and lack of familiarity with the playbook. The latter also applies to running backs too, while Mark Ingram has Darren Sproles and Pierre Thomas to share carries with in New Orleans, and Mikel LeShoure will be behind Jahvid Best in Detroit. Julio Jones is a stud, and 5/1 is good value.

    5 pts on Ray Rice - Most Rushing Yards @ 20/1 (Bet365)

    Rice is my favourite to lead the NFL in rushing yards for a variety of reasons. He's the feature back in Baltimore, and has the best full back in the league now blocking for him. Vontae Leach was a big reason Arian Foster put up the numbers he did last year, and I like him to Rice a big favour this year. Rice's competition in Chris Johnson and Adrian Peterson have terrible offensive lines in front of them which will harm their production, and Arian Foster is his only real threat but it would be a rarity if he finished as the leading rusher twice in a row. Jamaal Charles will continue to split carries in Kansas, while Maurice Jones Drew and Michael Turner are injury concerns. Ray Rice is in a great spot to lead the league this year.


    Really like these two bets. Rice has been on my radar but I'm waiting another week or two. Julio Jones I've thought about but haven't been 100% sure, great write up has convinced me!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Anyone who followed last year knows that most of my good fortune came when I started betting on doubles as opposed to singles. With singles, I needed two wins to cover one loss, whereas with the doubles system, one win would cover two losses. Doubles are harder to predict obviously, but by making sure one of the selections in the double was a favourite of mine I made a nice profit. I'll be doing that again this season, but not during preseason. I'm only throwing one bet on this week, such is the madness of NFL preseason. Important thing is not to get discouraged by any losses in preseason, as they really are verging on pointless in calling (the Patriots went 0-4 in preseason back in 2007, going on to finish the regular season 16-0. Go figure.)


    Thursday 11th August, 7:30pm (12:30am Irish Time)
    Baltimore Ravens @ Philadelphia Eagles

    3 pts on Baltimore Ravens (+3) @ evens (Bet365)

    Preseason can be wildly unpredictable because you're really betting on who's 2nd and 3rd string players are not worse than the oppositions (notice the way I didn't say better!). Best thing to do however, is to look at each team's preseason record. The Ravens have won 66% of their preseason games under Harbaugh, and have never lost their opener. That's because the Ravens are a tough, focused team and they treat preseason games the exact same as they'd treat a SuperBowl (slight exaggeration mind). The Eagles have lost 60% of their preseason games under Andy Reid, and there's an awful lot of attention on Philly right now, even in preseason. With all the moves they've made, a lot of the 3rd and 4th string guys won't be seeing as many snaps as they'd like in training camp at the moment, and I think that puts the Eagles at a disadvantage given the long lockout. I like Baltimore to cover here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Disregard anything anyone tells you about tips and sleepers for preseason. Betting on preseason after a lockout like we've had is unprecedented, so there's no telling how teams will cope. I'm out of here until the regular season :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭LightningBolt


    Was tempted to take Falcons tonight but as you say, betting on preseason games is pointless.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Go on, I can't help myself. I have a problem, and the rest of you can't say anything - you're in a gambling forum, you have a problem too! :P

    Going to go with a double for tonight.


    Redskins (-5.0)) @ Colts
    Chiefs @ Ravens (-7.0)
    2 pts @ 2.72/1
    (Bet365)

    Basically, both of my picks are playing teams with horrendous preseason records. The Colts are 4-20 since 2005, and the Chiefs are on a run of 1-8 under Todd Haley. Again, I'm going with coaches records as opposed to the talent of each teams' roster. Won't go in to much more detail during preseason, that's all I've got to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    That was nice :D Couldn't stay awake to catch the end of the games, was confident that the Colts were never going to come back though. Got lucky enough with the Ravens, grabbing a TD with 1 minute to go to beat the spread (and then adding another with a few seconds to go for good measure). Nice to get the first win of the log! Also, thanks to johnmcdnl for giving me the idea to log them in a spreadsheet - doing them with pen, paper and calculator last year was incredibly idiotic :o

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Sunday 21st August 7:00pm (Midnight Irish Time)
    Cincinnati Bengals @ New York Jets

    2 pts on New York Jets (-6.5) @ 10/11 (Bet365)

    I may have been a bit harsh on the Redskins in my season long betting. I was speaking about them like they were the worst in the league, and it's not that they're better than I originally thought, it's just that there's a team that's worse than them - that's the Bengals. The Jets have so much more quality in depth than Cincinatti and I expect this to be a walk in the park for Rex Ryan's troops. They built up a good lead against the Texans last week, but the Texans came back. Houston showed that weekend and this weekend that they're a hot team, so I'm not concerned - the Bengals don't have that ability. The Jets at home will be far too strong for Andy Dalton (who will be getting more snaps tonight). Marvin Lewis is usually a good bet in preseason, but he's never been head coach of such garbage before. They were crushed 34-3 on their travels last week, and I like the Jets to cover comfortably tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭CriticEyes




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭CriticEyes


    Nice wan! Cheers mate made a tidy bit off this. Glad to have ya back. Looking forward to the new season! Keep it up. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Nice one pal, delighted you made a few quid! Gonna have so much fun betting against the Bengals this year :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Friday 26th August 8:00pm (1am Irish Time)
    Green Bay Packers @ Indianapolis Colts

    4 pts on Green Bay Packers (-9) @ 10/11 (Bet365)

    Week three in preseason is as close to betting on a regular season game as you'll get. The players have a few weeks of training camp and other preseason games behind them, the coach will give his starters more game time than the other weeks, and they'll start gameplanning for the opposition rather than just focusing on getting reps for squad players. The Packers have greater depth in their roster than anyone else in the NFL. When Rodgers leaves the game, Matt Flynn will step in and he had a brilliant game against the Patriots in the regular season last year. He'd be a starter on a few teams in this league imo. The Colts awful record is also in play again here, they're 4-21 in preseason since 2005, and 1-9 under Jim Caldwell. The Packers also beat the Colts by a whopping 35 points in preseason last year, they could do it by even more this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭CriticEyes


    Tom_Brady wrote: »
    Friday 26th August 8:00pm (1am Irish Time)
    Green Bay Packers @ Indianapolis Colts

    4 pts on Green Bay Packers (-9) @ 10/11 (Bet365)

    Week three in preseason is as close to betting on a regular season game as you'll get. The players have a few weeks of training camp and other preseason games behind them, the coach will give his starters more game time than the other weeks, and they'll start gameplanning for the opposition rather than just focusing on getting reps for squad players. The Packers have greater depth in their roster than anyone else in the NFL. When Rodgers leaves the game, Matt Flynn will step in and he had a brilliant game against the Patriots in the regular season last year. He'd be a starter on a few teams in this league imo. The Colts awful record is also in play again here, they're 4-21 in preseason since 2005, and 1-9 under Jim Caldwell. The Packers also beat the Colts by a whopping 35 points in preseason last year, they could do it by even more this year.



    Happy out bud. Im all over it with you. Just to let you know Paddy Power are offering -8 if you are interested. G'luck!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    CriticEyes wrote: »
    Happy out bud. Im all over it with you. Just to let you know Paddy Power are offering -8 if you are interested. G'luck!

    Feck, already have my bet locked in with Bet365 :o

    I'm pretty confident they'll cover the -9 anyway so hopefully not too big of a concern. The Colts did pick up Kerry Collins as back up, he's better than anything else they have under Manning but he'll have very little exposure to Colts' brand of offense, plus Reggie Wayne has been bitching about him joining so hopefully that'll prove to be a distraction! :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Couple more bets for tonight's action that I like. Would like them in a double but using two different bookies so can't double them up unfortunately.

    Thursday 25th August 7:30pm (12:30am Irish Time)
    Cleveland Browns @ Philadelphia Eagles

    2 pts on Philadelphia Eagles (-7) @ 10/11 (Bet365)

    Don't have too much time for a big write up as I'm about to run out the door here at work, but I think the Browns are being too hyped up after the last couple of weeks. Going into Philly against a team with huge roster depth is a big ask, and underneath it all, Cleveland are still a pretty poor thing. I think Colt McCoy struggles against the Eagles D tonight, and I think Mike Vick bounces back from last week's disappointed. In Vince Young and Mike Kafka, the Eagles have one of the best 2nd and 3rd string QB combos in the league. It's also worth point out (barely) that Kafka will forever have legendary status with me, having won me a bet at this week of preseason last year with a last second TD pass :)

    ---

    Thursday 25th August 8:00pm (1am Irish Time)
    Washington Redskins @ Baltimore Ravens

    2 pts on Baltimore Ravens (-4.5) @ 10/11 (PaddyPower)

    Like the Browns, the Redskins are being overhyped. They beat the Colts last week, but that was the preseason Colts, who have a record of 4-21 going back to the 2005. It means nothing, and I can't see them covering a 4.5 spread in Baltimore. As I said my previous write up for Green Bay, this is the one week where coaches take preseason even remotely seriously, and for that reason I think the Ravens roll over Washington.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Oh well, you win one, you lose one. That Eagles game went exactly to plan, but the Redskins put up more of a fight than I thought. The Ravens won, but unfortunately didn't cover the spread. Hindsight is great and all, but that Ravens second/third string defence is really poor. Lucky I didn't put them in a double after all! Here's hoping the Packers do the biz tonight. I've alse been racking my brain about whether I should take the Pats at -4 over the Lions, I'll think about it some more but I might just go with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Tom_Brady wrote: »
    Friday 26th August 8:00pm (1am Irish Time)
    Green Bay Packers @ Indianapolis Colts

    4 pts on Green Bay Packers (-9) @ 10/11 (Bet365)

    Week three in preseason is as close to betting on a regular season game as you'll get. The players have a few weeks of training camp and other preseason games behind them, the coach will give his starters more game time than the other weeks, and they'll start gameplanning for the opposition rather than just focusing on getting reps for squad players. The Packers have greater depth in their roster than anyone else in the NFL. When Rodgers leaves the game, Matt Flynn will step in and he had a brilliant game against the Patriots in the regular season last year. He'd be a starter on a few teams in this league imo. The Colts awful record is also in play again here, they're 4-21 in preseason since 2005, and 1-9 under Jim Caldwell. The Packers also beat the Colts by a whopping 35 points in preseason last year, they could do it by even more this year.

    I'm increasing this to a 6 pts bet. The Packers have apparently been running No Huddle offense more and more in training camp. They've only unleashed it on two drives so far this preseason, but to devastating results - both times they went more than 70 yards for a touchdown. Part of the reason this is so effective is being discussed by Packers fans, and I agree with those who think it's down to Aaron Rodgers. He's up there with Brady and Manning in terms of reading defences, and he may be a better offensive signal caller than head coach Mike McCarthy who's more renowned for his defensive playcalling. The Colts, or more specifically, the preseason Colts would not stand a chance if they unleash it tonight - an offense of the Packers' calibre with the weapons available to Rodgers will run riot if they go no huddle tonight. This could get ugly!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭Onecoolcookie


    Quite fancy the Rams to beat the Chiefs tonight who've had a pretty poor preseason so far, any opinions on this match Tom?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Quite fancy the Rams to beat the Chiefs tonight who've had a pretty poor preseason so far, any opinions on this match Tom?

    It's one I wanted to be on, Todd Haley cares nothing for preseason, he's 1-9 in preseason games as head coach. The only thing that stopped me going for it was that the Chiefs were very unlucky not covering against the Ravens and Haley was major pissed off. I think the Rams will cover tonight though, I'm just not putting my money where my mouth is :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Actually the Rams are only -1.5, last I checked they were -2.5. I might have some of that, will see what state my account is in when I get home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭mooonpie


    Tom_Brady wrote: »
    Actually the Rams are only -1.5, last I checked they were -2.5.

    -1 on PP now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    -1 on PP now

    Can't say no to that, it's basically a pick em. I'll go with Rams for 2 pts at -1. Cheers for the heads up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Two doubles to hopefully make up for that Colts disaster.

    3 pts on Patriots (-3) + Bears (+3) @ 2.72/1
    3 pts on Broncos (-5) + Texans (-3) @ 2.64/1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Thank the good Lord, competitive football is finally back! Ol' college ball kick off tonight, and I love betting on college football - I actually made more profit on college than I did on the pros last year, snd I'm sticking with the doubles system which served me well in the run in, so this weekend I like:

    Minnesota @ USC (-23.5)
    UNLV @ Wisconsin (-35)
    5 pts @ 2.64/1

    I like pairing these two twogether because the teams I'm betting against - Minnesota and Chatanooga - have several things going against them. First and foremost, they're crap teams. Sorry to be so blunt, but they are. Second, they're both travelling half way across America to play in stadiums with a great atmosphere against ridiculously talented favourites. I'd almost half consider betting on these spreads at half time, let alone full time. I like both to cover, especially Wisconsin.

    Oregon (-4.0) @ LSU
    Boise State (-3.5) @ Georgia
    5 pts @ 2.72/1


    This one is risky. These are the two premier games this weekend, all four teams are ranked going in to the season, and two of them will fall a long way come Sunday morning. I think those two will be LSU and Georgia. Oregon @ LSU is intriguing as they are the #3 and #4 ranked teams in the country respectively, but I think Oregon bounces back from the national championship game disappointment and rolls over LSU. There isn't a more exciting team to watch in the country - they are just so quick and play at such a high tempo, that you feel tired just watching them. I think that's where this renowned LSU defence struggles to contain the Ducks and their cast of stars. As for Boise, well I'm putting my money in Kellen Moore's hands. He's the Tom Brady of college football - reads defences like a coach, has the accuracy of a sniper and is the most clutch QB in the game. Georgia struggled without AJ Green last year, he's not there anymore and losing a playmaker of his ability will damage their confidence. They just don't have that wow factor without him. Boise lost their two main wide receivers also, but don't be mistaken - Kellen Moore has always been the man for the Broncos, and they have the talent to step up and take this.

    There's another double I have my eye on, but there's no market for the Chatanooga @ Nebraska game on PP or Bet365 so I'll wait until that goes up.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Ugh, bloody Wisconsin.

    I'm gonna throw that USC (-23.5) in with Nebraska (-35) if that's what the spread is, or less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,369 ✭✭✭UnitedIrishman


    Tom_Brady wrote: »
    Ugh, bloody Wisconsin.

    I'm gonna throw that USC (-23.5) in with Nebraska (-35) if that's what the spread is, or less.

    That was a sick way to lose out. Fell asleep just as it went 50-3 to Wisconsin. Followed you on the double and did another double myself. Both let me down by a single score.

    Ah well, in fairness Wisconsin looked like it was in the bag. Get the bad luck outta the way early eh? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,911 ✭✭✭bradlente


    I followed ye there too Tom,unlucky.I wouldn't of got that close on my own anyway so I'll stick with your tips!;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Well that was a horror weekend, and to save some face I'm just going to chalk it down to opening weekend misinformation. Believe me, I learned a few things (NEVER bet on USC) this weekend. Unlike college 'ball, we've had a chance to see what the NFL is like in preseason, so I'm reasonably more confident in this weekend's NFL selections.

    Oakland Raiders @ Denver Broncos (-3)
    New England Patriots (-7) @ Miami Dolphins
    5 pts @ 2.59/1

    The Raiders demolished the Broncos in this game last year, so I think Denver have an awful lot they'll want to prove with revenge on their minds. The big factor here is that Nnamdi Asomugha is no longer a Raider, and this impacts the whole team. Pound for pound, Asomugha is the best player in the NFL, I have no doubt about that - so losing him is a monstrous blow. Kyle Orton should start the season in fine form again, and his connection with Brandon Lloyd last year was at times devastating. With no Asomugha to keep Lloyd in check, the Raiders have a big problem. Knowshon Moreno and Willis McGahee on the ground are a nice 1-2 and compliment each other well - I would be very trusting of McGahee on goal line sitautions. Denver's defence also has 2 of the biggest playmakers on the field in Elvis Dumervil (missing all of last year) and the freak Von Miller. Their pass rush will be very hard to cope with, and with Champ Bailey in coverage, I think Denver shades the competition in the key areas of the field. Of course, they will have to cope with Darren McFadden, but sometimes it comes down to simply believing one team will outscore the other.

    As for the Patriots, well they've covered a 7 point spread in 5 of their last 6 season openers. I can't see Chad Henne doing much against New England. It would be something if he had the support of the home crowd, but I fully expect him to be booed off the field at the half. The thing is, New England will lead in this game and it will be on Henne to throw the ball to get the Fins back into it, but he just doesn't have that ability. If for some reason that Reggie Bush decides he now wants to be an NFL player and looks good running the ball, the Pats can simply put Andre Carter and Albert Haynesworth in their front 4 - ain't nobody running on them and Big Vince. But the most important factor in this game, as usual, is that this is Tom Brady playing Monday Night Football against a division rival. It just helps that this is perhaps the most talented Patriots team in years against a poor Dolphins roster. This spread will definitely rise beyond -7.


    Indianapolis Colts (+9) @ Houston Texans
    New Orleans Saints (+4) @ Green Bay Packers
    5 pts @ 2.59/1

    Peyton Manning is out, and everybody is lumping their savings on the perennial sleeper in Houston. The thing is, as desperate as the Texans have been to beat the Colts over the years, they got that out of their system on the opening day last year. Yes they'll still want to win this time round, but will it matter as much without the Sheriff on the field? I can't deny that the Texans have improved everywhere this off season, nowhere more than with the appointment of Wade Phillips as defence co-ordinator. But it's a system they're still getting used to, especially with the lockout having eaten up valuable preparation time. I won't deny they've gotten better, but even without Manning, they're not 9 points better than the Colts. Peyton is pretty much offensive coordinator in Indy, but he'll dial something up for a veteran like Kerry Collins to get the best out of hugely talented players like Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark and Joseph Addai.

    As for the Saints, well Drew Brees is an underdog on a nationally televised game. Last time that happened, he lifted the Lombardi trophy over his head about 60 minutes later. The Packers defence were sloppy as hell in preseason. A good pass rush can mask that, but Drew Brees is killer against the blitz and should have lots of success there. This game could be a classic shoot out, and with both teams having less than elite running games, I expect both QBs to go over 300 yards passing. The over/under 47 also looks like really good value, but I'm sticking with Drew Brees as an underdog.

    Will add a couple more bets in the next few days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Last NFL double for the weekend, some really nice picks in College Football coming up tomorrow hopefully.

    Carolina Panthers @ Arizona Cardinals (-7)
    Tennessee Titans (+1.5) @ Jacksonville Jaguuars
    5 pts @ 2.82/1


    The Panthers aren't very good. That's not much of a shock considering their record last year, but they haven't even shown glimpses of improvement in the offseason. And why would they? They've upgraded very little over the summer and don't have much to show for it as a result. I just don't see them staying within 7 points of the Cardinals. Maybe last year, when the Cardinals were also pretty bad, but not with Kevin Kolb under centre. Kolb has worked out with Larry Fitzgerald all summer, and they look like they've struck up an impressive connection. Beanie Wells is poised for a breakout year, and Patrick Peterson could have a big impact on the defence. I think he'll surpass what Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie offered, who really looked disinterested at times last year. The Cardinals should win this one comfortably, I'm thinking in the region 30-16.

    As for the Jaguars, they really looked bad in preseason. Maurice Jones Drew is not 100%, he's even admitted as much himself. Garrard is gone. He was no world beater, but he was a serviceable QB who could make the odd play. Luke McCown will start now and I think he could struggle, but more important is the fact the Titans can now focus on stopping MJD as McCown doesn't have the ability to punish them down the field. It's the exact opposite in Tennesee - they've brought in a better QB than what they had available. Matt Hasselbeck brings much needed stability and experience to the position, and he'll also prevent Jacksonville from loading the line of scrimmage to stop Chris Johnson. If they do that, Hasselbeck will punish them with the likes of Kenny Britt and Nate Washington downfield. This strikes me as a 20-6/9 sort of game for the Titans, so I definitely like them as underdogs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Last NFL double of the weekend, I promise :o

    Pittsburgh Steelers (+1.5) @ Baltimore Ravens
    Buffalo Bills (+6) @ Kansas City Chiefs
    5 pts @ 2.64/1


    Joe Flacco has never beaten Ben Roethlisberger, and I don't think he finally does that this weekend, not when he was such a new receiving core to get used to. Gone are his two security blankets in Todd Heap and Derick Mason, and in comes Lee Evans and Torrey Smith. Evans has been out of the game for a year, although he has looked sharp in preseason. Torrey Smith has all the attributes to be a great receiver, except for the most important one - not dropping the ball. I hardly think he'll solve that issue knowing he's seconds away from being dismantled by Troy Polamalu. The Steelers are just an awesome organisation, and they draft so well. The Ravens, well I just don't like Cam Cameron enough as an offensive coordinator to get past Pittsburgh. My money is with Big Ben and his perfect 6-0 record over Joe Flacco.

    The Chiefs are being wicked over rated this season. I think they over performed hugely last year, the only decent team they beat was the Chargers in Week 1, and they always start slow anyway. The Bills, well, their hardly decent but I think the Chiefs - and specifically Matt Cassell - will miss Charlie Weiss an awful lot. I think they'll win, but not by the 6 points being projected. There's not that much between these two teams imo.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Getting this in now, because I expect the spread to move in the next few hours.

    Arizona @ Oklahoma State (-14)
    TCU (-1) @ Air Force
    5 pts @ 2.64/1


    Juron Criner did not travel for Arizona. He is Nick Foles' go to receiver and a marquee playmaker for the Wildcats - this is a huge, huge loss. What was being billed as a battle of two super stud wide receivers is now just the Justin Blackmon show. Make no mistake about it, Blackmon is the number 1 receiver in college football and he could torch this Wildcats defence, especially with 27 year old Brandon Weeden throwing him the ball. This road game just got a lot tougher for Arizona, and I expect the Cowboys to roll in front of their home crowd having put up 60+ points last week. While it's a worry that they gave up 34 points to such lowly opposition in Louisiana-Layafette, make note of the fact that they only gave up 6 of those points when their starting defence was on the field. But where this game will be won is the offensive lines imo. Both teams have top quality QBs, but Nick Foles has 5 offensive linemen who didn't play last year - they've lost all of last years starters. Oklahoma State meanwhile, have kept all of their front 5, and this is such a huge boost for them.

    I am in absolute shock that the spread for TCU has fallen from -2 to -1. I don't think we'll see a stranger spread all year. TCU are so, so superior to Air Force. Sure, they gave up 50 points to Baylor last week, but Robert Griffin III is a favourite for the Heisman and he'll put up equal numbers against many more this year. But TCU also put up 48 of their own points, and Casey Pachall looked very good under centre. Air Force won't put up anywhere near as much as Baylor - their offence isn't equipped to take advantage the same Baylor did. Tank Carder won't be fooled by option plays, and Air Force don't have the receivers to punish TCU. I honestly think TCU could win this by two touchdowns if they want. The -1 is just awfully strange, and I'm all over it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,932 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Tom are ya really confident on that TCU bet?

    iv a nice double involving them

    5P97I.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    I do really like the TCU bet. The fact that the spread is only -1 just has me confused. I don't see any reason for it to be that low.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭CriticEyes


    Hey, we were robbed last night!! hard luck. So tonight any tips on Louisville V Florida Panthers and Arizona state V Missouri?? Cheers mate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭El Horseboxo


    Tom_Brady wrote: »
    I do really like the TCU bet. The fact that the spread is only -1 just has me confused. I don't see any reason for it to be that low.

    Probably due to the 6 starters they've lost since last season and the 2 questionables they have for tomorrow. Not to mention a possible slight over-reaction to last weeks defeat at Baylor. I watched that game and although Pachall impressed that TCU team just didn't look anywhere near as good as last season. So maybe it's not too much of an over-reaction. Without a pre season and just one game played it's hard to tell. Air Force have also played very good TCU teams tough at home in the past. Must admit the -1 line surprised me too. There's a lot of money on AF in the American books. Granted most places it's +2 over there. Think i'll keep an eye on in play for this one. Good luck anyways.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    1 more college double, my last bet for the weekend and one I like.

    Stanford (-20.5) @ Duke
    Oregon State @ Wisconsin (-20)
    5 pts @ 2.64/1


    Duke lost to Richmond last week. The best thing I've read about Richmond this week is from a Richmond student, who says their win over Duke made him realise that his college actually had a football team. So Duke, who lost at home to Richmond, are expected to keep within three touchdowns of the best quarterback in the country, and one of the best offences in the country? I'm not buying it at all. This spread could well be covered by half time. Luck and Stepfan Taylor will destroy Duke.

    Similarly, Oregon State lost to Sacremento State last week. Sacremento's schedule every year is largely made up of teams you didn't know existed, and Oregon State lost to them. Now they're expected to travel to #8 ranked Wisconsin who looked sensational last week, destroying UNLV by 34, and Oregon State are supposed to stay within 3 touchdowns? No way, Russell Wilson, James White and Montee Ball will have a field day in front of their own fans. It should be a blowout.

    Was so tempted to take a double that involved Michigan +3 as I think Notre Dame are, as usual, horrendously over rated but I couldn't find another pick I liked to go with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 964 ✭✭✭CriticEyes


    TCU is +1 with Paddy Power. How do you think this go? Is it maybe lumping material or is it a mistake from PP?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    It's gone to +1 because Ed Wesley and Tanner Brock are out of the game. It makes me less confident, but not by a lot. Now maybe a 3.5 or 4 out of 5 confidence bet. Still think they'll win comfortably though, Air Force aren't as equipped to take advantage of the TCU weaknesses as Baylor were.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Wisconsin already up by 7. I usually don't like to comment in here during games, but that TD is as a result of Oregon State punting for -4 yards.

    Yes, negative yardage on a punt.

    Just had to point that out :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,932 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Headshot wrote: »
    Tom are ya really confident on that TCU bet?

    iv a nice double involving them

    5P97I.png

    get in there

    thanks Tom for the TCU tip


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Nice one! Kept checking my phone for updates, looks like it was even more of a blow out than expected!

    Glad you made a few quid HS, spend it on something nice :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    I was only semi-tipsy earlier, so perhaps I didn't celebrate enough.

    Get the fook in! :D No matter what happens in NFL tomorrow, profit :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Going for a double of LSU (-3) and Texas Tech (-20) this weekend. Will have more doubles but getting this in early as the LSU game is tonight. Won't do a big write up as im posting from my phone but I just think LSU are too strong for Mississippi State who aren't a real contender. You can talk about the home crowd, the Thursday night audience etc. but truth is SEC teams get hostile receptions everywhere they go. This season is building up to the LSU - Alabama showdown in November and I don't see any other teams spoiling that. Also, LSU had pretty much an exhibition game last week while MSU gave their all and came up short against Auburn. Above all else, LSU's defence is the best in the country, and if Oregon can't run on them, then MSU will struggle too. LSU are a monster this year, I like them to cover comfortably.

    As for Texas Tech, this spread is far too low. New Mexico have put up 13 points this year so far. Texas Tech are coming off a bye week and should dominate. Spread could well be -28 and I'd take it.

    Will also be betting on Boise -20 and Wisconsin -16.5, more on those tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,932 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Tom

    are ya confident about Texas Tech handicap?

    Just have them in a double with LSU (which won last night, thank you Tom)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,658 ✭✭✭✭Peyton Manning


    Headshot wrote: »
    Tom

    are ya confident about Texas Tech handicap?

    Just have them in a double with LSU (which won last night, thank you Tom)

    I should hope so, I have money on it myself :pac:

    TT are a decent team that can put up a lot of points against poor opposition. New Mexico are one of the worst teams in the country. They lost to Colarado State in week 1 (one of those teams where you go "Huh, Colarado State have a football team. Fancy that!"). Arkansas beat them by 49 last week too at half pace. Texas Tech beat them by 35 last year at home, a season in which they went 1-11 and lost by margins of 72, 35, 42, 35, 18, 2, 10, 24, 25, 33 and 49. Obviously they are prone to being blown out of the water by anywhere near decent teams, so I wouldn't expect Tech to have too much trouble. They had a bye week last week, so are well rested and will have had loads of time to watch game tape on how Arkansas made bits of NM so they can do the same.


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