Jurassic World

Mickeroo

Bacchus wrote: »

It certainly helped suck the sense of wonder I had with the original out of this movie.

Have we got to the point in the debate over JW that everything bad about it was done on purpose as some sort of in-joke, reference to the original, reference to commercialism or breaking the 4th wall by holding a light up to how 'we' the audience demand bigger, cooler spectacles?

Bad is a subjective term. I liked all that stuff. *shrug*

Thargor

Mickeroo wrote: »

I thought the whole point of using the iconic theme in that fashion was to show that the park and dinosaurs themselves weren't considered all that special by the general public any more and that the sense of wonder was gone for a lot of people. Thought it worked quite well myself.

Nah, theres no way in hell they would be that subtle about it, they would have been beating us over the head with it, it was just sloppy.

Foxtrol

Thargor wrote: »

Nah, theres no way in hell they would be that subtle about it, they would have been beating us over the head with it, it was just sloppy.

Totally agree with Mickeroo on this, the theme being used at that point plays into exactly what we’re hearing from several characters – the original wonder is gone.

Just because other parts of the movie aren’t subtle doesn’t mean that other points they can’t be. I'm not sure how they could beat you over the head with a score.

Whether by design or accident it worked well.

Bacchus

All that was missing with how they used the music was a shot of a guy coming out of a toilet cubicle as it played.

It was borderline something a spoof movie would do, playing the rousing, iconic music over monotonous backdrops.

Mickeroo

Rather they did that than rehash the scene from the original, even if they didn't really pull it off at least they tried something different.

e_e

That's just indicative of the overall emptiness and cynicism of the movie to me. "Meh modern audiences, they just want everything stupider and louder!" *proceeds to do exactly that* It's like the film was written and directed from the perspective of the Bryce Dallas Howard character from early on.

Whatever about The Lost World and Jurassic Park 3, at least they were honest in their intentions.

Turtyturd

Went to see it with my son this afternoon, and it was pretty much what I expected, a soulless summer blockbuster. I think the original Jurassic Park was the Star Wars for my generation and the hype, awe, and excitement is just something that the franchise won't capture again. It had a chance to build some tension with the Indominus Rex reveal but it just seemed like they had a checklist of things they had to get through, same goes for the

camouflage and Raptor dna

reveals.

The characters were all fairly shallow and stereotypical (hey Peter Quill's day job is being a dinosaur trainer.) and like some others I thought the kid had some level of autism when the mother told him how long they had to get to the airport and he was able to correct her.

The only time I really felt the product placement stood out was when the kids were on the monorail and there was a blatant shot of the older kid's converse, and the scene where Owen is drinking the bottle of Coca Cola. The resort is a spot on representation of Universal Citywalk even down to high end shops like Pandora which seem completely out of place. And attractions are regularly sponsered by companies, fairly sure the Jurassic Park Discovery Centre in IOA was sponsored by Nokia at one point.

StaticAge11

Best review of the movie I have seen https://youtu.be/l6umfTLuCI8

EoinMcLovin

Slydice

Watched it this evening. Liked it. :-)

FloatingVoter

Survived this rubbish. Spent the movie rooting for the dinosaurs. Boring monsters chasing even more boring humans. The original(s) had a sense of humour, actors ranging from Richard Attenborough through Sam Neill, Jeff Goldblum, William H Macy and Laura Dern.
This has some anonymous plastic action man character, a guy from a Law and Order spin-off and the most hackneyed damsel in distress since silent movies went out of fashion.
I'm sure it will spawn many forgettable sequels.

Sad Professor

I thought this was a lot of fun. Even the CGI dinos didn’t bother me, though I was well prepared for them by the trailers. Sure it’s a pretty safe rehash of the original, but so are the vast majority of sequels. You get what you pay for: More of the same — with bigger teeth. Trevorrow injects enough winking, self-referential comedy (and commentary) into it to stop it from being completely soulless.

Mr Freeze

Well probably going against the grain here, but I enjoyed it and I would watch it again.

I didn't like T-Rex being a 'goodie' that saves the day (again), but we knew it was coming as soon as it was announced that the T-Rex from the original JP would reappear.

I was always left a bit cold after watching the other JP films, I always had high hopes as a kid and couldn't wait to see JP and The Lost World and didn't really enjoy either as much as I wanted to.

JW is no worse than JP and better than The Lost World and JP 3 (JP3 being muck, saw it on TV recently).

I might have enjoyed it a lot more than the other 3 because I had low expectations and was pleasantly surprised.

nc6000

So are the kid's parents actually getting a divorce?

Loughc

nc6000 wrote: »

So are the kid's parents actually getting a divorce?

Find out in Jurassic World 2: The Lost Marriage. :pac:

expectationlost

nc6000 wrote: »

So are the kid's parents actually getting a divorce?

it wouldn't be a spielberg movie if they weren't

Cookie_Monster

You know what. 3 wasn't that bad and I quite like it.

There, I said it.

Liamalone

I saw this recently, saw all the 'holes', still enjoyed it, it's only a film after all.

J Mysterio

Liamalone wrote: »

I saw this recently, saw all the 'holes', still enjoyed it, it's only a film after all.

And Hitler was only a man.

Loughc

J Mysterio wrote: »

And Hitler was only a man.

And there we go folks, possibly the worst comparison to be seen!

J Mysterio

:pac:

Gbear

Ride me sideways that was stupid.

Pretty, on the whole and technically competent, but I spent a large part of the film face palming.

I love big dumb films, but dumbness is the absence or streamlining of some elements of story telling in favour of action.
It's not just bad storytelling.

I guess you can give them credit for how consistently bollocks everything was - they started with camouflage but they never let up.

The bit at the end was hilarious with the whole bigger fish joke. I was half expecting Godzilla to turn up, followed by Unicron.

Presumably the only place Pratt and Dallas-Howard will stick together will be prison, where they'll be sent for criminal negligence having caused the deaths of 100 people.

BMMachine

Gbear wrote: »

Ride me sideways that was stupid.

could not have put it better

youreadthat

Liamalone wrote: »

I saw this recently, saw all the 'holes', still enjoyed it, it's only a film after all.

I sentence you to watching Jack & Jill on a continuous loop.

pah

Mr Freeze wrote: »

JW is no worse than JP

GTFO

e_e

I never care that much about box office but it makes me sad that a film like this, that so blatantly hates its audience, is now one of the highest-grossing films of all time. The first film extrapolates its maker's deep love for his audience by presenting a man so eager to please that he does not notice the ruinous, lethal mistake he has made until it is much too late. From the start, this film takes pains to point out what a stupid thing it is, both the action of characters within the movie and the movie itself. But people will line up to be eaten, and to see this movie, because they're just so ****ing dumb, not even humans but a creature comprising only mouths to shove novelty snacks into and wallets to pay for everything.

The word cynical gets thrown out a lot (not infrequently by me) but rarely has it so definitively applied to a film and the entire ethos encoded into every frame. In this movie, all deaths are jokes (with its one truly gruesome, utterly cruel death played almost as the blackest joke of all, a Rube Goldberg device made of teeth); characters fluctuate in personality to make the meanest possible choices; and sideplots exist solely to make everyone seem more insanely deluded. There are no moments of wonder, but then that is deliberate, another way for the film to make a snide point about how none of us ****ing plebes know how to appreciate anything. But Trevorrow just presents us with a lot of caged beasts waiting for their inevitable escape. Perhaps the reason it's preferable to stare at one's phone is that idly surfing on it carries the possibility of surprising the user.

I found this Letterboxd review pretty spot on, especially with the cynical contempt JW has for its own audience.

Pugzilla

Lots of dry ****es in here.

It's a movie about a zoo of cloned dinosaurs FFS.

This is easily the best of the JP sequels. It delivered what I wanted.....Dinosaurs.

e_e

Pugzilla wrote: »

It's a movie about a zoo of cloned dinosaurs FFS.

...and? Didn't stop the first film from being thoroughly well-made, thoughtful, entertaining, chilling and awe-inspiring. Everything this one failed to be tbh.

Tipsy McSwagger

Pugzilla wrote: »

Lots of dry ****es in here.

It's a movie about a zoo of cloned dinosaurs FFS.

This is easily the best of the JP sequels. It delivered what I wanted.....Dinosaurs.

Ahh to be 5 years old again.

e_e

I'd argue that 2 and 3 were at least more effective Dinosaur thrillers than even this one is, which wastes a good hour with some boring cardboard cut out characters.