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GBFM news & pronounciation

  • 18-07-2011 11:05am
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭


    Aaargh..
    They refer to Bearna as Barrnah and An Spidéal as Spidelle..aaargh! You'd think they would know how to pronounce the names of villages in their broadcast catchment area.
    *sombre voice* And now the death notices


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  • Moderators Posts: 12,397 ✭✭✭✭Black_Knight


    Must be frustrating trying to educate people on how to pronounce something when using text.

    Ive no idea what way you're trying to pronounce bearna and spideal (correctly or incorrectly)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    thought it was BwAWrna nowadays :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Aaargh..
    They refer to Bearna as Barrnah and An Spidéal as Spidelle..aaargh! You'd think they would know how to pronounce the names of villages in their broadcast catchment area.
    *sombre voice* And now the death notices
    You would also think that when you then start a thread on it you would have realised that the word is pronunciation, you drop the second o you decided to throw in there.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I grew up in Barna and nobody in the village itself referred to it as Bearna. It was always Barna.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭beeintheknow


    snubbleste is clearly a bit of a gaelgeoir.

    Barna (nó Bearna as gaeilge) is pronounced the same in both languages- bar-na. It means gap.

    Spiddal has been erased from signage, but it is still in everyday use as the name of the place known as Gaeilge as An Spidéal, so I don't see why this bothers you.

    Great thread by the way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭galah


    bah, place names are nothing - what's much worse is that they can't seem to go through one newscast without stumbling over one word or the other, and their general pronounciation is quite appalling - or should I say 'appalleen'? They are droppeen 'g's left, right and center...

    Very very annoyeen, that.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Aaargh..
    They refer to Bearna as Barrnah and An Spidéal as Spidelle..aaargh! You'd think they would know how to pronounce the names of villages in their broadcast catchment area.
    *sombre voice* And now the death notices
    I have a friend who worked there and it was affectionately known in the office as Corpse Countdown.
    snubbleste is clearly a bit of a gaelgeoir.

    Barna (nó Bearna as gaeilge) is pronounced the same in both languages- bar-na. It means gap.

    Spiddal has been erased from signage, but it is still in everyday use as the name of the place known as Gaeilge as An Spidéal, so I don't see why this bothers you.

    Great thread by the way.
    I do love the O'Cuiv era policy of promoting the Irish language by pretending that Anglicised placenames don't exist. Always reminds me of those series of photos where one-by-one Stalin had people airbrushed out.


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    snubbleste wrote: »
    Aaargh..
    They refer to Bearna as Barrnah and An Spidéal as Spidelle..aaargh!

    In fairness that's how the vast majority of people pronounce them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭LadyMayBelle


    Drives my friend mad when they say 'Galway Bay FM would like to extend their sympathies to the familes of all the deceased'...as in, they technically stating their intention to extend, but they don't actually do it...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭beeintheknow


    Drives my friend mad when they say 'Galway Bay FM would like to extend their sympathies to the familes of all the deceased'...as in, they technically stating their intention to extend, but they don't actually do it...

    Your friend is one seriously sad case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    galah wrote: »
    bah, place names are nothing - what's much worse is that they can't seem to go through one newscast without stumbling over one word or the other, and their general pronounciation is quite appalling - or should I say 'appalleen'? They are droppeen 'g's left, right and center...

    Very very annoyeen, that.
    Pronunciation!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭LadyMayBelle


    Your friend is one seriously sad case.

    What I thought.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭doubleglaze


    snubbleste is clearly a bit of a gaelgeoir.

    Barna (nó Bearna as gaeilge) is pronounced the same in both languages- bar-na. It means gap.

    There's a big difference in pronunciation between the Irish word Bearna and the English word Barna.

    Bearna is pronounced - Bjawr-na
    Barna is pronounced - Bar-na


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Seriously lads nobody pronounces Barna as Bearna unless they're related to the poitín man.

    Spidéal and Bearna are really more for the people who always speak Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    thought it was BwAWrna nowadays :p
    Nah, more of a Borna methinks ;).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,914 ✭✭✭✭Eeden


    My little peeve with GBFM news is the way that, when they read the headlines, they do it in "newspaper-ese" - in other words, they leave out the articles. You don't need to do that on the radio - there's no pressure for space the way there is in a newspaper! I can't listen to it anymore...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Malice wrote: »
    Nah, more of a Borna methinks ;).

    Well it is either BwAWrna or Borna, the locals would never say it with an A as in BArna nowadays.

    Then again GBFM presenters usually speak bog standard Claregalway or Carnmore english not BwAWrna/Borna english. :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭desaparecidos


    There's a big difference in pronunciation between the Irish word Bearna and the English word Barna.

    Bearna is pronounced - Bjawr-na
    Barna is pronounced - Bar-na

    Galway Bay FM as far as I know broadcast in English the vast majority of the time, so Bar-na is the correct way to pronounce it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Aaaaaaand de death notices for Gaaaaaaaaaaaalwaaaaaaaaay


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭arandale


    Well now Sponge Bob, the guy who reads the news is from Barna and speaks very eloquently.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Is he begod? Where the fcuk did he pick up that scrofulous "Death Notice" accent from ???? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭barryd09


    GBFM's pronunciation of Tuam is what boils my blood.

    CHEWEM.

    They must say it 15-20 times per news bulletin.

    **** OFF!!!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Seriously lads nobody pronounces Barna as Bearna unless they're related to the poitín man.
    Spidéal and Bearna are really more for the people who always speak Irish.

    My point really is they are reinforcing the incorrect way to refer to a location. They have a duty as a broadcaster to refer to it correctly. Rté always refer to An Spidéal (the An is very important).

    Another one I hear occasionally is Ballybain as opposed to Ballybahn but not on Gbfm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    I find the best solution is to never listen to GBFM, makes me want to drill into my brain. Its a terrible radio station with middle of the road, nondescript cheesy music, bad bad bad presenters and then programs about religion. Mass is boring enough without Keith Finnegan redoing the sermon on a Monday morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    The way they produce the Atalia in Lough Atalia phonetically wrecks my head. Granted Athawlia/Atawlia is the original Irish pronunciation, but it seems to me that it's the standard pronunciation among English-speaking Galwegians, so there's no excuse for them not knowing how to pronounce it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭dilallio


    Drives my friend mad when they say 'Galway Bay FM would like to extend their sympathies to the familes of all the deceased'...as in, they technically stating their intention to extend, but they don't actually do it...

    Back in the early 90s, the lad who read out the death notices on Clare FM used to say
    "Thanks be to God, tis nobody we know."

    Didn't last long though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭galah


    Pronunciation!!!!!

    ah, get over it...the verb is 'pronounce', so it's a very easy mistake to make. :p


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    snubbleste wrote: »
    My point really is they are reinforcing the incorrect way to refer to a location. They have a duty as a broadcaster to refer to it correctly. Rté always refer to An Spidéal (the An is very important).

    Another one I hear occasionally is Ballybain as opposed to Ballybahn but not on Gbfm.

    But they are not using the incorrect way, they are using the English way of saying it that 90% of people use. I have never heard people in day to day life saying anything but Barna and Spiddal. I dont even know how to pronounce "Bearna".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    galah wrote: »
    ah, get over it...the verb is 'pronounce', so it's a very easy mistake to make. :p
    More of a lazy mistake really.;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭galah


    well, count yourself lucky we didn't use text speak or some other abomination of language. There! (their?!) :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭bubbaloo


    I just hate GBFM. They have the most BORING presenters ever born, they have no concept of life outside Galway (way too insular for anyone from anywhere other than Galway to tune in), have a serious lack (absence) of a sense of humour and spend 20 minutes on the Sports news! Snoresville! Switched to TodayFm thank you!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    bubbaloo wrote: »
    I just hate GBFM. They have the most BORING presenters ever born, they have no concept of life outside Galway (way too insular for anyone from anywhere other than Galway to tune in), have a serious lack (absence) of a sense of humour and spend 20 minutes on the Sports news! Snoresville! Switched to TodayFm thank you!

    not even Ollie Turner? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭barryd09


    GBFM is for people 500+ years old.
    Truly awful.

    CHEWEM...aarrrrggghhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bubbaloo wrote: »
    and spend 20 minutes on the Sports news! Snoresville! Switched to TodayFm thank you!

    Some people like to hear the sports news from around the county in fairness and a lot of people listen to hear the local news.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭beeintheknow


    bubbaloo wrote: »
    I just hate GBFM. They have the most BORING presenters ever born, they have no concept of life outside Galway (way too insular for anyone from anywhere other than Galway to tune in), have a serious lack (absence) of a sense of humour and spend 20 minutes on the Sports news! Snoresville! Switched to TodayFm thank you!

    Shirley this post is a wind up?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭bubbaloo


    Shirley this post is a wind up?

    Why would it be a wind-up? :confused:
    And my name's not Shirley!! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 758 ✭✭✭bubbaloo


    Some people like to hear the sports news from around the county in fairness and a lot of people listen to hear the local news.

    I understand that but maybe they could include some other news as well as local news. And seriously, the sports news is just too long - they tell the sports results, dicuss it, tell more, discuss it, tell a bit more, discuss it - blah blah blah !! :p ZZZZZZZZZZZZ!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,974 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    barryd09 wrote: »
    GBFM's pronunciation of Tuam is what boils my blood.

    CHEWEM.

    They must say it 15-20 times per news bulletin.

    **** OFF!!!!!

    I feel an affinity with you barry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭beeintheknow


    Shirley this post is a wind up?

    Well you are criticising local radio for covering local news and you have also typed 'snoresville'.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭galah


    I only listen to them for the live traffic updates (now there's a good service!) and for some of the local news (the best one yet was a piece about the size of Irish winkles compared to French ones - smaller, I might add - I was in tears laughing ;-))

    I think their weekend programme is the worst though - Valerie whatsherface and her awful request show, that other sleepy fella on Sundays, and that squawky dude Saturday nights...good grief.

    But thankfully my radio has a 'switch channel' button ;-)


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    bubbaloo wrote: »
    I understand that but maybe they could include some other news as well as local news. And seriously, the sports news is just too long - they tell the sports results, dicuss it, tell more, discuss it, tell a bit more, discuss it - blah blah blah !! :p ZZZZZZZZZZZZ!

    GBFM is what it is, a local radio station. For the record I dont listen to it very much myself. If I want national and international news and discussion I listen to Newstalk and if I want music I usually listen to i102-104 or spin sw.

    But if I want to hear a local match, match report, local results or hear local news etc I will listen to GBFM.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    galah wrote: »
    I only listen to them for the live traffic updates (now there's a good service!) and for some of the local news (the best one yet was a piece about the size of Irish winkles compared to French ones - smaller, I might add - I was in tears laughing ;-))

    I think their weekend programme is the worst though - Valerie whatsherface and her awful request show, that other sleepy fella on Sundays, and that squawky dude Saturday nights...good grief.

    But thankfully my radio has a 'switch channel' button ;-)
    I would rather be tortured in Guantanamo than listen to her.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭desaparecidos


    I dont even know how to pronounce "Bearna".

    Imagine a Limerick knacker saying it. I think it's something like that.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I always used to pronounce it - be-yar-na


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭gandroid


    But they are not using the incorrect way, they are using the English way of saying it that 90% of people use. I have never heard people in day to day life saying anything but Barna and Spiddal. I dont even know how to pronounce "Bearna".


    I don't think a few of these points are coming across very clearly on here.

    I think the point is they pronounce "Spidéal" (in the Irish way without the "An"). They tend to say Sped-dale

    It should either be "Spiddal" or "An Spidéal". As far as I know...this is what he means and I agree with him.

    As for Barna (English) vs Bearna (Gaeilge)....they are prounced the same in both languages as someone else has pointed out, so in this case it doesn't matter. The English name most likely came from the Irish term.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 Nelephant


    The funniest part of GBFM are the reports from the traffic guy - he gets so irate when listeners don't follow his advice and contribute to traffic jams!! Think he moonlights as traffic expert in City Council also???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭ethernet


    galah wrote: »
    I only listen to them for the live traffic updates (now there's a good service!) and for some of the local news (the best one yet was a piece about the size of Irish winkles compared to French ones - smaller, I might add - I was in tears laughing ;-))

    I think their weekend programme is the worst though - Valerie whatsherface and her awful request show, that other sleepy fella on Sundays, and that squawky dude Saturday nights...good grief.

    But thankfully my radio has a 'switch channel' button ;-)
    You think that's bad?

    This gives me flashbacks to ...

    The Looooooooove Hour

    Anyone else remember that? Your one with her super sexy voice and the cheesy tunes? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    ethernet wrote: »
    You think that's bad?

    This gives me flashbacks to ...

    The Looooooooove Hour

    Anyone else remember that? Your one with her super sexy voice and the cheesy tunes? :pac:

    LOL, yeah... Corrina Gavin I think she was?.... "and this one goes out to all those MIL (madly in love :confused:) out there!"

    Awful station. Stuck in a timewarp. Tune in today and it sounds exactly the same as it did in 1990. Some might say that's consistency!

    I used to like Jimmy Norman in the mornings years ago, he's definitely their strongest presenter in a pretty weak line up, but these days he sounds increasingly in love with himself and is constantly preaching about bad driving, foglights, bad parking... yawn. Give it a rest Jim. And the love-in he has with his boss Finnegan just after 9 is just cringe worthy in the extreme. Alan Partridge-esque.

    The traffic guy Jon Richards has been doing that for donkeys years in fairness to him on his big motorbike, rail hail or snow. I do wonder about the value of "traffic reports" though, but that goes for the pointless AA Roadwatch ones on the national stations more so than Jon Richards... at least he's seeing it first hand!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭doubleglaze


    gandroid wrote: »
    As for Barna (English) vs Bearna (Gaeilge)....they are prounced the same in both languages as someone else has pointed out

    No. They most certainly are NOT pronounced the same, as already pointed out:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=73358079&postcount=15


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