Preview of REAL Digital EPG

rlogue

Here's an early look at the REAL Digital EPG...

channelsurfer2

has deals been signed with rte tv3 yet for an irish launch?
i notice it only has now and next info and not full epg.....

rlogue

I believe the full EPG will be switched on around mid August. I understand that TV3 and TG4 have been fully engaged with REAL and will no doubt be on the Irish EPG however I hear RTE have not welcomed REAL Digital as a platform and REAL have had to lodge a complaint with the BAI over RTE's refusal to comply with Section 77 of the Broadcasting Act.

John mac

only took 7 months to get the photo

(just an observation) the real digital logo looks to have been photo-shopped onto the pic of the epg..

foggers

rlogue wrote: »

I believe the full EPG will be switched on around mid August. I understand that TV3 and TG4 have been fully engaged with REAL and will no doubt be on the Irish EPG however I hear RTE have not welcomed REAL Digital as a platform and REAL have had to lodge a complaint with the BAI over RTE's refusal to comply with Section 77 of the Broadcasting Act.

is that cause they see it as a threat to their plans for saorsat?

rlogue

Do you think the watermark on the right hand side was photoshopped as well?
:rolleyes:
I posted an earlier version of the EPG in another place so for your benefit here is the EPG on a Bush widescreen CRT...

rlogue

foggers wrote: »

is that cause they see it as a threat to their plans for saorsat?

I would be shocked and appalled if RTE did see REAL Digital as a threat to Saorsat Or Saorview because if that was they way they think then they would have to be prosecuted under the Broadcasting Acts for acting beyond their statutory powers and obligations.

I have no idea why they are stalling a deal with REAL since REAL are as much a platform provider as Sky and UPC and therefore RTE must offer their channels for carriage provided no cost is incurred by RTE. A better bargain than Saorsat!

recyclebin

So whats the latest on Real Digital? I've been hearing about them for years but nothing much concrete with regards to detail.

What packages will they be offering?

foggers

just have to wonder though....they're spening an awful lot of dough on saorsat for relatively few customers.... or maybe would sky be sticking their spoke in (alledgedly!!!). They get an awful lot of customers in the countryside that can't get good RTE reception, might hit them a bit if real digital works out.... anyway, good to see some movement maybe on the real thingy, hoped that they would have a 7 day epg for the sat, alas, not by the looks of it, early days yet I suppose. Do you have any 'insider' knowledge on whether there are plans to have the 7 day epg on Irish and UK channels or 7 day only on Irish and now/next for UK or worse still now/next for both?

they won't flog many of the top end PVR boxes(if they ever make them) if all it can do is now/next I'd imagine.

rlogue

7 Day EPG for everything - Irish and UK channels. The EPG is not on the air until mid August so that is why you only see now and next on the photos.

rlogue

recyclebin wrote: »

So whats the latest on Real Digital? I've been hearing about them for years but nothing much concrete with regards to detail.

What packages will they be offering?

Initially Sky Sports 1&2 with the UK and Irish channels, subject to agreement. I believe more exclusive channels are in the pipeline.

foggers

rlogue wrote: »

7 Day EPG for everything - Irish and UK channels. The EPG is not on the air until mid August so that is why you only see now and next on the photos.

great, thanks for the info....Be interesting to see how this works out especially if they are able to work out the details on getting the sports onto it. I'll be on it like a fly on ..........

channelsurfer2

on a side note is that the real digital man you can see in the reflection on the EPG? lol...

rlogue

Well he's definitely not photoshopped in!

foggers

rlogue wrote: »

7 Day EPG for everything - Irish and UK channels. The EPG is not on the air until mid August so that is why you only see now and next on the photos.

and just to get things straight in my head....No subscription for the bog standard channels and maybe 20-30 euro p/m for the sub channels - sky sports 1 & 2. Just buy the box, hook it up to a sky dish or some such and off you go?

rlogue

I don't know the exact numbers but there won't be a charge for HD, there won't be a charge to record and yes it will work on a Sky or Freesat dish.

For specific cost questions you'll have to contact REAL Digital directly via their website. I do get some good titbits of information but I don't know everything!

foggers

rlogue wrote: »

I don't know the exact numbers but there won't be a charge for HD, there won't be a charge to record and yes it will work on a Sky or Freesat dish.

For specific cost questions you'll have to contact REAL Digital directly via their website. I do get some good titbits of information but I don't know everything!

call yourself an insider!!!!!

thanks for all the info, sounds good and if they manage to roll it out non-subbed, can't see how it can fail(as long as it works!!!)........

Craigels

im very excited about this product cant wait for it to launch and if it work good riddens to sky

STB

7 day epg is NOW available FTA for 28.2 and Saorview on NON LINUX boxes.

No bills to third party box sellers like Real Digital. Who would be a consumer eh ?

Dont get me wrong, their packaging of Sky Sports will be interesting. So real are pursuing RTE for non carriage... lol. .

Apogee

STB wrote: »

7 day epg is NOW available FTA for 28.2 and Saorview on NON LINUX boxes.

No bills to third party box sellers like Real Digital. Who would be a consumer eh ?

Can you expand on this please - is it a new receiver or new service or what???

Minstrel27

Apogee wrote: »

Can you expand on this please - is it a new receiver or new service or what???

I am receiving the 7 day EPG from 28.2° East with a Technomate TM-6900 HD Combo Super+

It works a treat

STB

Apogee wrote: »

Can you expand on this please - is it a new receiver or new service or what???

So called phantom patches available now for Technomate 6900 (NON SUPER Versions from 2008) onwards and up to SUPER models etc. Only thing is you need to have a USB to take act as the memory for the Event ID data that is downloaded OTA via a fixed transponder. The data is broadcast on a radio channel transponder!

The 7102 doesnt need the USB as its internal memory is larger.

Written by Technomate coders IMO and released through Digital Worldz. They dont want to tell me how they wrote the patch. They obviously have the source code to the TMs. It just shows that once the memory is there, then all you need is storage for the dump on the STB.

http://download.for-better.biz/bbs/list.php

Apogee

STB wrote: »

The data is broadcast on a radio channel transponder!

It's a hack for reading the Sky EPG OpenTV datastream then?

rlogue

Yes it is a hack for the Sky OpenTV data. There's a similar hack available for DVBViewer.

These hacks are grand for us enthusiasts who are happy to tinker but of limited use to Joe or Jane Public who won't necessarily remember to tune to the IEPG Data 1 channel and press record....

ftakeith

rlogue wrote: »

Yes it is a hack for the Sky OpenTV data. There's a similar hack available for DVBViewer.

These hacks are grand for us enthusiasts who are happy to tinker but of limited use to Joe or Jane Public who won't necessarily remember to tune to the IEPG Data 1 channel and press record....

how much for sky sports 1 & 2 in ireland
topuptv for UK freeview is £30 in the uk
so maybe €40 for sky sports 1&2 with real digital in ireland

STB

rlogue wrote: »

Yes it is a hack for the Sky OpenTV data. There's a similar hack available for DVBViewer.

These hacks are grand for us enthusiasts who are happy to tinker but of limited use to Joe or Jane Public who won't necessarily remember to tune to the IEPG Data 1 channel and press record....

Once a week ? And it is fairly simple to do.

Of course it is a hack but is a hack that works on Non Linux boxes.....

Apogee

What's the cheapest Technomate combo box on which this hack will work?

rlogue

It'll work on any of them provided the latest phantom patch is applied...

tlaavtech

Wonder if we will see the patch emerge for the edison 2in1 mini - Quite a lot of folks around here would be happy!

In the old days

How will they get around the rights issue to confine Irish Channels to Ireland? If they offer FreeSat type channels plus the 4/5 Irish channels there will be a big take up as one box and 7 day epg is a very attractive proposition for Joe and Jane Public. Presumably you would have to register with Real Digital and Irish Channels be encrypted and some sort of card issued. Can't see any profit in this for Real Digital unless they are planning to use it as a teaser to get Sky Sports subscribers to their platform.

Red Alert

I can't imagine Sky are too happy about their EPG being re-used if that's what's happening. Why would you choose REAL anyway - you already have FreeSat for no charge, and Sky at reasonable enough prices. How is REAL going to be better or cheaper than Sky?