An Irish Joke:

Knight who says Meh

(Q) Did you hear about the Irish people whos most popular religious institution have repeatedly been found to be involved in child abuse, institutionalised abuse, criminal behaviour, cover up, collusion and self preservation above all else.


What about them?


(A) They are left responsible for the running of over 90 of the states schools and lots and lots of people think this is just great.... Boom Boom.



Come back soon for a joke about Foxes minding the chickens.....

Biggins

Keep trying OP!

...On second thoughts - don't.

(I get your point but some things are just not funny)

mackg

Here we go....:rolleyes:

MagicSean

In fairness, people are more than welcome to go to a school not set up by the Catholic Church. Same goes for hospitals.

Biggins

mackg wrote: »

Here we go....:rolleyes:

Yep.
Its that time again.

PseudoFamous

Seanbeag1 wrote: »

In fairness, people are more than welcome to go to a school not set up by the Catholic Church. Same goes for hospitals.

Or indeed set one up if they don't like the others.

Stinicker

You can't beat a good ol' Catholic bashing in the afternoon.

orourkeda

Oh look, a thread about the catholic church.

Stunning originality

stephen_k

Agree with the sentiment OP... but shockingly poor taste at choice of style of your post....

Dermo

RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE

fontanalis

Stinicker wrote: »

You can't beat a good ol' Catholic bashing in the afternoon.

Yes, people who shelter child rapists deserve better.

Knight who says Meh

Is the post in poor taste or the constant stream of Catholic Church apologists who turn up on these posts?

Knight who says Meh

orourkeda wrote: »

Oh look, a thread about the catholic church.

Stunning originality

They haven't gone away you know. originality will follow when they have.

Stinicker

fontanalis wrote: »

Yes, people who shelter child rapists deserve better.

Actually they don't, I was just making a wise crack.

KeithAFC

Just read about it now. I can't say it surprised me. We knew this sort of evil has been going on for a long time and the cover up of it. No worry for the pope though, he lives a life of luxery and can easily avoid the rule of law.

wild_cat

Is it inappropriate to say its funny cause its true?

The Scientician

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9kDT44DBXs

MrStuffins

Now.... I can't be sure but............

haven't we already had a couple of threads on this subject?

Over 90 percent of state schools, OP, over 90 percent; there's a large difference between 90 schools and 90 percent of schools. (I think it's 92% of primary schools and 49% of secondary schools.)

IRISHREDSTAR

Knight who says Meh wrote: »

(Q) Did you hear about the Irish people whos most popular religious institution have repeatedly been found to be involved in child abuse, institutionalised abuse, criminal behaviour, cover up, collusion and self preservation above all else.


What about them?


(A) They are left responsible for the running of over 90 of the states schools and lots and lots of people think this is just great.... Boom Boom.



Come back soon for a joke about Foxes minding the chickens.....

I thought this was going to be the one about the 6 priest and the little deaf and dumb child

fontanalis

Stinicker wrote: »

Actually they don't, I was just making a wise crack.

Damn you for showing up my sarcasm detector.

mackg

IRISHREDSTAR wrote: »

I thought this was going to be the one about the 6 priest and the little deaf and dumb child

Do go on...

fontanalis

MrStuffins wrote: »

Now.... I can't be sure but............

haven't we already had a couple of threads on this subject?

There can;t be enough until this sorry era in irish history is laid bare for all to see. I don't think this is just a church thing but it also reflects poorly on irish society.

Ghost Buster

MrStuffins wrote: »

Now.... I can't be sure but............

haven't we already had a couple of threads on this subject?

And they always seem to follow another shocking report on The RCC handling of abuse reports. Perhaps theres a connection........

KeithAFC

fontanalis wrote: »

There can;t be enough until this sorry era in irish history is laid bare for all to see. I don't think this is just a church thing but it also reflects poorly on irish society.

They are responsible for more than just covering up sexual abuse of little kids.

orourkeda

Knight who says Meh wrote: »

They haven't gone away you know. originality will follow when they have.

They wont

prinz

Knight who says Meh wrote: »

Is the post in poor taste or the constant stream of Catholic Church apologists who turn up on these posts?

How many posters have been apologists for child abuse?

Knight who says Meh

Knight who says Meh wrote: »

(Q) Did you hear about the Irish people whos most popular religious institution have repeatedly been found to be involved in child abuse, institutionalised abuse, criminal behaviour, cover up, collusion and self preservation above all else.


What about them?


(A) They are left responsible for the running of over 90 of the states schools and lots and lots of people think this is just great.... Boom Boom.



Come back soon for a joke about Foxes minding the chickens.....

Who?

Plus using 'jokes' to get a point across is annoying

RichieC

filthy fking pedos should be kicked out of the country. would have happened immediately if this organisation in question wasn't such a large well funded cult with so many mindless apologists around.

Ghost Buster

prinz wrote: »

How many posters have been apologists for child abuse?

Seanbeag1 wrote: »

In fairness, people are more than welcome to go to a school not set up by the Catholic Church. Same goes for hospitals.

PseudoFamous wrote: »

Or indeed set one up if they don't like the others.

Who mentioned apologists for child abuse.? I mentioned apologists for The RCC but I can understand your confusion of the boundrys

These perhaps qualify as RCC apologists:
Stunning logic. Up there with turkeys who think that turkey farmers are doing a great job setting up and running turkeys farms and sure we should not let Christmas blot their otherwise great record.

prinz

RichieC wrote: »

filthy fking pedos should be kicked out of the country. would have happened immediately if this organisation in question wasn't such a large well funded cult with so many mindless apologists around.

You mean Irish people convicted of child abuse should be kicked out of the country, or you mean people who were never involved in child abuse or covering it up are also 'pedos' and should also be kicked out of the country?

mcmoustache

prinz wrote: »

How many posters have been apologists for child abuse?

I think it's stretching it a bit by the other poster to say that people were defending child abuse.

On the other hand, there are plenty of people around these parts who'll defend the Holy Roman Catholic Church. This lovely institution had an internal policy from the top down regarding how to deal with allegations of sexual abuse. This policy involved moving priests around, keeping the information from the proper authorities, intimidating the abused to keep them silent and anything needed to cover up the crimes.

Again, let me stress, this was not a policy decided by just a few rogue men who dressed funny and touched kids in naughty places. This came right from the top. This was the policy of the institution itself.

With that in mind, I can't help but feel that if someone defends the Catholic Church or continues to support them, then that someone is supporting an organisation which had (and maybe still has) a strict internal policy of covering up child abuse and not seeing it as something worth punishing.

It's not quite defending child abuse but it is defending an organisation that more or less condoned it and protected its members from the authorities.

If a person is into the religious side of it but doesn't like the organisation, they should join one of the many protestant sects or try eastern orthodox or something. But for the love of God and children, please stop giving this crowd money.

prinz

mcmoustache wrote: »

On the other hand, there are plenty of people around these parts who'll defend the Holy Roman Catholic Church..

What about defending people who had no hand, act nor part in abusing children or covering it up from being labelled as 'pedos'?

Ghost Buster

prinz wrote: »

What about defending people who had no hand, act nor part in abusing children or covering it up from being labelled as 'pedos'?

Nobody has mentioned individual Priests or Nuns and seldom do. Its the institution of the RCC that is being investigated so please dont go down this "dont tar them all with the same brush" sh1te route

mcmoustache

prinz wrote: »

What about defending people who had no hand, act nor part in abusing children or covering it up from being labelled as 'pedos'?

I would say that defending these people from being branded 'paedos' would be quite reasonable. I'll happily attack the organisation till the cows come home but I've met plenty of good priests in my time and I wouldn't even consider accusing all clergy of being culpable.

Then again, if a bishop 'had no hand, act nor part in abusing children' but was aware of that famous edict from the big man himself and didn't speak out, I would classify him as an accessory to the covering up of child abuse. All of the bishops received it, didn't they?

RichieC

prinz wrote: »

You mean Irish people convicted of child abuse should be kicked out of the country, or you mean people who were never involved in child abuse or covering it up are also 'pedos' and should also be kicked out of the country?

The institution in question.

Ghost Buster

RichieC wrote: »

The institution in question.

It was pretty obvious...:rolleyes:

charlemont

KeithAFC wrote: »

Just read about it now. I can't say it surprised me. We knew this sort of evil has been going on for a long time and the cover up of it. No worry for the pope though, he lives a life of luxery and can easily avoid the rule of law.

Some people here will go to the ends of the earth to protect their church, Its actually shameful, I reckon its only the tip of the iceberg, How come the Gardaí never made any attempts until recently to investigate the abuse, Brendan Smith ring a bell...The power the church had here was similar to some sort of fascist dictatorship, Interfering in all aspects of life here..The fact that people still flock there every Sunday is the biggest joke of all.

I hope to God the Pope doesnt visit here, Its all we need, Mary O Rourke and Joe Duffy types will be hero worshipping him.I am religious myself but religion comes from within, not from being told what to do by hypocrites and paedophiles.

Solnskaya

At this juncture, the RCC should be investigated under a form of RICO legislation. Thats a Racketeer Influenced Corrupt Organisation btw, and it is appropriate, because it is now blindingly obvious that the Church appears to be little more than a paedophile ring on an international scale. For those who deny this, and I question your motives immediatly, the scale of abuse revealed is simply institutional- it seems to go from top to bottom. To my eyes, and I have long held the view, it's a collection of abusers and an organisational shield to facilitate their abuse. I would imagine that if a real investigation was launched by Interpol, between money laundering and corrupt influence, through to mass scale child abuse and its facilitation, there is a strong case to be answered. Sadly, the tentacles just go too deep and it will probably never happen. But it should.
There are also serious questions to be answered by the Gardai and the Judiciary. The treatment and follow up upon receiving a complaint by a victim should be thoroughly probed to see just how much these bodies facilitated abuse by possible collusion/lack of action/dereliction of duty. I wonder how many Judges sent defenceless children into the care of these organisations, knowing full well just what awaited them. And yet they sent more children into the care of molesters. To me, this is willful collusion and it raises far more disturbing questions.