Do State Schools Indoctrinate Children with Statism?

Chuck Stone

HalloweenJack wrote: »

Also, the system of collectivisation in the USSR led to extreme famine. Those in Spain during the SCW worked somewhat but the idea of collectivisation, imo, leads to isolation of communities, which is backward.

Collectivism in the USSR was centrally controlled and forced upon people upon threat of loss of (more) liberty and even death - the centralised state literally got to decide who lived and died.

The Spanish example appears to be non-coercive collective organisation.

Anarchists are anti-state.

From wiki.

Anarchism is a political philosophy which considers the state undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful, and instead promotes a stateless society, or anarchy. Anarchists seek to diminish or even abolish authority in the conduct of human relations.

Imo one of the reasons people are so appalled by the idea of having no state is because of their own loss of previledge that the state ensures.

Rants in my pants

Meh. Other countries seem much worse for it tbh...

WindSock

Yeah I don't think it is terribly apparent here, as we don't have any political ideals to impose on other countries. Well, we don't have the means or the men to. And we have little threat from foreign ones. At the moment.
Even so, we are engulfed by the EU, and I am not sure what its ideals are.

Solnskaya

sheesh wrote: »

yes they do. Part of the education process to help make useful members of society so you have a start time in the morning similar to a work day.

also similar to the way your parents toilet trained you.

you are not a precious delicate little flower that needs to be nurtured OP you are just a reasonably smart ape, you need to be trained.

meh, this is a &^$£%^ post. Work day me hole. They would be better teaching our kids how to duck and dive, cos that's what works if you're not blessed with a connected Da or a Famous Ma.

Solnskaya

Inverse to the power of one! wrote: »

There are streams of anarchism that trend towards the rights of property ownership and the free market, Anarcho-Capitalists would be an example of this. Both move away from centralism and the control of the state, but also have very differing ideas of what would replace it.

The ussr even tho collectivist would be viewed as an extreme statist system, as would nazi Germany.

What is really interesting is that the internet by its properties has revived certain forms of anarchist thought, we now have a strong trend of IT professionals who go towards libertarianism(technotarians!), The nature of file sharing is an anti centralist attitude and approach as is the networked nature of the web itself. Organisations such as wikileaks and EFF would also be considered a form of anti-statism. Crypto-anarchists have also emerged from the woodwork to create nets that the state cannot infiltrate, bitcoin being one of their most interesting creations.

Most interesting of all how ever is how many people who engage in these activities would never see themselves as having anything to do with anarchism, much less anything in common with the "smug, idealistic, delusional people in their 20's"......I'd advise that you don't consider them as being representative of ideas that look to decentralization and independence.

Even us working hacks dream of not having to be dependant on the whims of the collective....

Vote now for most intelligent post ever committed to AH!

Turtwig

Wait sex schools educate what?

starbelgrade

Veles wrote: »

ffs i thought this was about satanism

Did you hear about the dyslexic satanist?

He converted to statism.

Capt'n Midnight

we had to do Satanism in History. All about the 5 year plans and the famine and the pruges and war with Germany and the cold war and how he died in his sleep.

Chuck Stone

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

we had to do Satanism in History. All about the 5 year plans and the famine and the pruges and war with Germany and the cold war and how he died in his sleep.

Communism =/= to anarchism.
State Socialism =/= to anarchism.

Biggins

Do State Schools Indoctrinate Children with Statism?

LOL

Yes, they preach about a lot of stats - maths class in particular is bad - I heard lately its holy hell!

tony007

Read Paulo Freire- Pedagogy of the oppressed

Inverse to the power of one!

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

we had to do Satanism in History. All about the 5 year plans and the famine and the pruges and war with Germany and the cold war and how he died in his sleep.

His hand supposedly went limp from all the death warrants he signed, tho others argue that it was just another indicator of what a massive wanker he was!