Which religion or belief is the dumbest

Galvasean

Malty_T wrote: »

That's a myth.
Both of them are myths.

Maybe they porno bit is but the bit about my sexual exploits...

Malty_T wrote: »

That said, I have to point out - for fear of getting thumped on the head with a metallic mathematical box set - that looks aren't what counts.

They are when you're trying to engage in some personal happy time.

MagicMarker

They're all equally retarded.

Pace2008

Wicca, or any of those Neopagan sects that feature witchcraft and sorcery, would be the first to springs to mind. They're really niche religions so it's not even like there's any social or cultural to subscribe to its views, as there would be for, say, Catholicism in Ireland. They're basically religions for adults who can't come to terms with the fact magic (or "magick," Jesus wept) powers aren't real, so they band together with like-minded folk to conviince each other they really can cast spells.

Conservative Christianity of the American kind always get me as well. If I were a Christian looking for guidance, the question I'd find myself asking would be "What would Jesus do?"

I doubt the answer would be to amass as much material wealth as possible, rail against the fact that a relatively small portion of this wealth is deducted in the form of taxes and given to poorer people, and hate from the depth of your heart anything and anyone that deviates from your narrow view of what's good, or "Christian" and "American;" loudly condemning them to hell and attempting to manipulate legislation so that these groups are actively discriminated against on a legal level.

mariebeth

The belief that your beliefs are better than anyone elses, whether you're Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Atheist, Wiccan, or whatever.

MagicMarker

mariebeth wrote: »

The belief that your beliefs are better than anyone elses, whether you're Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Atheist, Wiccan, or whatever.

So, all of them accept atheism then?

ShooterSF

mariebeth wrote: »

The belief that your beliefs are better than anyone elses, whether you're Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Atheist, Wiccan, or whatever.

Well first let's take atheist out as that's more to do with theism. What you are saying then is that none of these beliefs actually know anymore about the supernatural than the other and as all of them claim to be the one true belief it would be an arrogant fool who prescribes to anyone of them.
Therefore you are left with more rational ideas (than defined religions) like theism or atheism. So then a generic theist or atheist should see their belief (or lack thereof) as better than the others who have no reason to follow their beliefs.

Or had you thought your statement through anymore than "that sounds catchy"

mariebeth

ShooterSF wrote: »

Well first let's take atheist out as that's more to do with theism. What you are saying then is that none of these beliefs actually know anymore about the supernatural than the other and as all of them claim to be the one true belief it would be an arrogant fool who prescribes to anyone of them.
Therefore you are left with more rational ideas (than defined religions) like theism or atheism. So then a generic theist or atheist should see their belief (or lack thereof) as better than the others who have no reason to follow their beliefs.

Or had you thought your statement through anymore than "that sounds catchy"

What I'm saying is that I think that the belief that is held by many people from different religions & beliefs that their beliefs/religion is better than the next persons is stupid and arrogant.

Undergod

The way I'm reading ShooterSF's argument is that a generally theistic or generally atheistic position could be justifiably considered "better" because it's unspecific, and doesn't pertain to be absolute truth on an unknowable topic.

Besides, I think some people's beliefs are better than some other people's. I think that my beliefs, which don't involve FGM, or honour killing the guy who gets my daughter pregnant, or commiting mass suicide, are way superior to those that do.

Fanny Cradock

mariebeth wrote: »

What I'm saying is that I think that the belief that is held by many people from different religions & beliefs that their beliefs/religion is better than the next persons is stupid and arrogant.

The word "better" is ill-defined. But I wonder is the above your belief?

Fad

One of my favourite ridiculous beliefs: Transubstantiation

krudler

Fad wrote: »

One of my favourite ridiculous beliefs: Transubstantiation

which hardly any "catholics" believe in or even know what it is.

They're all equally silly, and should be ridiculed as such. Its why people who are religious criticising stuff like Scientology makes me laugh, the only difference between a cult and church is numbers and longevity. bombs hidden in volcanos and aliens? madness, but a boat with every animal on earth on it, talking snakes, virgin births, 72 virgins, paedophile prophets who you cant draw and other assorted wackiness? perfectly fine.

Turtwig

Fad wrote: »

One of my favourite ridiculous beliefs: Transubstantiation

Call it by its proper name : cannibalism.

Ush1

Woman being made out of a mans rib as an after thought...



Oh, an Jesus surfing with no board!

pH

mariebeth wrote: »

What I'm saying is that I think that the belief that is held by many people from different religions & beliefs that their beliefs/religion is better than the next persons is stupid and arrogant.

How do you know this? How do you know that one isn't better?

Is the belief that "Those who think their beliefs are better than the next persons are stupid and arrogant" not also stupid and arrogant?

Or are you saying you know the truth of your statement somehow?
- if so explain how you know and are so certain than one of the beliefs isn't better

housetypeb

I wonder how many people are now seated at the right hand side of god? As that seems to be the "in" place to be.
Are the people on the left hand side jealous and scheming to get moved to the right hand side?
Why is Peter standing guard outside heaven if the saved go straight to heaven and the condemmed go straight to hell? Paperwork maybe?:D

blacktalons

the culture of deference wrote: »

For me scientology and creationists have to be up there as the dumbest and most gullible.

muslim jew and christian are pretty much the same, indoctrination usually has to start at a young age.

But is there really any difference in believing in any of them?
Should you be allowed / encouraged to hold these contradictory beliefs?

without any doubt, the most dumbest,retardest,gullible,paranoid gob****esss,are the jehovah witness, any one who worships electricity,and hide behind closed curtains,and think every day is the last day,must be the greatest ****"ing morons of all time.:pac::pac::pac:

MagicMarker

housetypeb wrote: »

I wonder how many people are now seated at the right hand side of god? As that seems to be the "in" place to be.
Are the people on the left hand side jealous and scheming to get moved to the right hand side?
Why is Peter standing guard outside heaven if the saved go straight to heaven and the condemmed go straight to hell? Paperwork maybe?:D

He has to make sure no one is wearing runners.

sensibleken

blacktalons wrote: »

without any doubt, the most dumbest,retardest,gullible,paranoid gob****esss,are the jehovah witness, any one who worships electricity,and hide behind closed curtains,and think every day is the last day,must be the greatest ****"ing morons of all time.:pac::pac::pac:

they do what now?

krudler

housetypeb wrote: »

I wonder how many people are now seated at the right hand side of god? As that seems to be the "in" place to be.
Are the people on the left hand side jealous and scheming to get moved to the right hand side?
Why is Peter standing guard outside heaven if the saved go straight to heaven and the condemmed go straight to hell? Paperwork maybe?

heaven seems to have more rules and loopholes than the social welfare office

robindch

Malty_T wrote: »

Call it by its proper name : cannibalism.

<cough>

Theophagy

Turtwig

robindch wrote: »

<cough>

Theophagy

Lol yet another cool iota learned.:D

Bob Cratchet

So how do we indoctrinate children into atheism instead ?

Newaglish

Bob Cratchet wrote: »

So how do we indoctrinate children into atheism instead ?

Don't brainwash them into a religion. Bingo, job done!

liamw

Bob Cratchet wrote: »

So how do we indoctrinate children into atheism instead ?

Teach children how to think critically.

housetypeb

Asking which religion is the dumbest is akin to asking which myth-Roman,Greek,Irish etc- is the dumbest, pointless but fun.
Personally I always thought that Ferdia was the better warrior and would have won that fight ,up until the moment cuchulain used that spear that never missed.
Cheater,I say.

Dades

Bob Cratchet wrote: »

So how do we indoctrinate children into atheism instead ?

There's plenty of education threads - this isn't one of them.

Turtwig

Bob Cratchet wrote: »

So how do we indoctrinate children into atheism instead ?

Do nothing.

Bob Cratchet

Dades wrote: »

There's plenty of education threads - this isn't one of them.

Maybe you'd inform the three that replied as well then.

strobe

Bob Cratchet wrote: »

Maybe you'd inform the three that replied as well then.

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Dades

Bob Cratchet wrote: »

Maybe you'd inform the three that replied as well then.

Maybe you'll leave the modding to me and move on.