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Still Waters No Longer Running, Derp.

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    #152
    Gbear
    Registered Users Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    What I do not understand is how someone could read that and say "yep, that makes sense because blah."

    What could you possibly replace blah with?

    His clear and concise method of conveying his point? Nope.

    The deeply rooted logic and rationality that underpins his argument? Nope.


    How can he read that and say "yes, I'm going to put this in the public domain where other people can read it"? How can his editors do that?

    GAH!:mad:

    Reading his stuff is like taking a fistful of crazy pills.


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    #153
    Corkfeen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    Jernal wrote: »
    Um, seriously got to ask here how much does this guy get paid for this rubbish?
    I'd say a fair bit plus he's a part of the broadcasting board too. Still can't believe he's considered a credible journalist.


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    #154
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,713 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    Rationality and reason shut out mystery? This coming from a person who believes that God created the universe for one species to worship him?

    If person chooses a reason/rationality over religion (Roman-Catholism in this case) then the amount of mystery in their life is increased. Things like abiogensis, evolution, language, morality, art etc. are no longer "God-given" and now something to be investigated to see what the origin of these ideas/process.

    Surely it is religion, i.e. Roman-Catholism, that is reductionist? It says "God made this", "God says don't do that", "your life is gift so that you can worship God".

    And his premise for his closing question is daft, "since scientists do not not know how matter originated, what exactly is a non-'supernatural' explanation for the meaning of life?" He states that the realm of science doesn't have scientific knowledge about X, then poses a philosophical question about Y.

    It was strange for him to critise people for alledgedly believing in things they don't understand because the experts assure them the theory makes sense. He fails to consider that reasoning is way more damaging to his own following of his brand of Christianity, seeing as he has no understanding how an enternal deity could exist and how it could create a universe.

    In addition to that, anyone can educate themselves in science and investigate the evidence for themselves. Can the same be said for Christianity?

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #155
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Corkfeen wrote: »
    Still can't believe he's considered a credible journalist.
    The mystery for me is why he's considered an intellectual.

    He'd be a smart guy if he'd drunk as much from the fountain of knowledge as much as he'd wee-wee'd into it.


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    #156
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,280 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    robindch wrote: »
    He'd be a smart guy if he'd drunk as much from the fountain of knowledge as much as he'd wee-wee'd into it.

    :D:D:D


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    #157
    Dades
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,558 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    robindch wrote: »
    He'd be a smart guy if he'd drunk as much from the fountain of knowledge as much as he'd wee-wee'd into it.
    Wait, are you suggesting drinking your own wee makes you smarter? :pac:


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    #158
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Dades wrote: »
    Wait, are you suggesting drinking your own wee makes you smarter? :pac:
    Drinking my wee? Well, couldn't do him any harm. If you've his address, I'll send him a bottle.


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    #159
    Turtwig
    Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Dades wrote: »
    Wait, are you suggesting drinking your own wee makes you smarter? :pac:

    Nope, but it could make you a survival expert.


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    #160
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,280 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    robindch wrote: »
    Dades wrote: »
    Wait, are you suggesting drinking your own wee makes you smarter? :pac:
    Drinking my wee? Well, couldn't do him any harm. If you've his address, I'll send him a bottle.

    Attach a note saying "This urine has been transubstantiated into the urine of Jesus Christ." He'll definitely drink it then. He wouldn't even need to think about it - much easier on brain, mind and reason.


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    #161
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    That'll be the Royal Wee I suppose.


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    #162
    Gbear
    Registered Users Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    robindch wrote: »
    That'll be the Royal Wee I suppose.

    I bet you've been saving that for years for even the most tangentially relevant moment.:p


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    #163
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,713 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    A quote by Phil Plait that is an excellent answer to Mr. Waters anti-reason article. It's in comic form, and very large so didn't embed it.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #164
    joseph brand
    Registered Users Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    Pope Benedict, speaking last year in Berlin, compared the reduction of reason imposed on our cultures to a concrete bunker with no windows

    He would, wouldn't he!

    It's analogous to the oil companies warning Americans about how wind farms are 'warming' Texas. Not at all biased. :rolleyes:


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    #165
    shizz
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    koth wrote: »
    A quote by Phil Plait that is an excellent answer to Mr. Waters anti-reason article. It's in comic form, and very large so didn't embed it.

    I really love those kind of comics. Thanks.


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    #166
    Gbear
    Registered Users Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    Ah jaysus. He was on Newstalk there trotting out more or less the same bollocks. The presenter was useless - just let him drone on and on.

    He seriously likes the sound of his own voice.


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    #167
    tawnyowl
    Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭tawnyowl


    This time he reckons Irish politics is like a spagetti western:
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2012/0615/1224317977630.html


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    #168
    Sarky
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    No mention of atheists, or bullsh*t about mystery and understanding reality by ignoring it. He must be ill.

    On the other hand, that piece was spectacularly daft. And he clearly hasn't watched many good westerns. Shine on, your crazy, crazy diamond!


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    #169
    coffee_cake
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    is he on drugs or something


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    #170
    MrPudding
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    bluewolf wrote: »
    is he on drugs or something

    If he isn't, the. I suspect he should be.

    MrP


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    #171
    swampgas
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    I suspect that there is a story waiting to be be written about how the Mick Wallace VAT affair illustrates some aspect of the Irish psyche or Irish culture - but this pile of waffle from John Waters is not that story.

    Why on earth an alleged "quality paper" continues to publish this gibberish is beyond me. Maybe somebody could write a story about that instead?


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    #172
    The Mad Hatter
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    Watery logic, anyone?


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    #173
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    ^^^ Watery grave methinks.


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    #174
    Sarky
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,967 ✭✭✭✭Sarky


    Doesn't take long to realise Water loon he is.


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    #175
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    With irony meters fatally red-lined, Mr Witters is appearing this evening at the Dalkey Book Festival to talk about his book "How We Lost the Plot":

    http://www.dalkeybookfestival.org/how-we-lost-the-plot-john-waters-talks-to-david-mcwilliams/

    "We" meaning "I" in this case, one assumes.

    It's sold out anyway, so no temptation to go there and sneeze, fart loudly, move one's chair about the place, pick one's nose, scratch one's bum and generally prepare to hand him A+A's coveted "Pigs Bladder on a Stick" award.

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    #176
    Dave!
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    Water these religious conservative types smoking tbh?!


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    #177
    tawnyowl
    Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭tawnyowl


    swampgas wrote: »
    I suspect that there is a story waiting to be be written about how the Mick Wallace VAT affair illustrates some aspect of the Irish psyche or Irish culture - but this pile of waffle from John Waters is not that story.
    Indeed, though it's a good illustration of his less religious comments on politics. Incoherence is something common to a lot of his writing - something to do with him commenting on others - he thinks he knows what ails us.
    Why on earth an alleged "quality paper" continues to publish this gibberish is beyond me. Maybe somebody could write a story about that instead?
    That is one of the great mysteries of the universe.


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    #178
    Galvasean
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    robindch wrote: »
    A+A's coveted "Pigs Bladder on a Stick" award.

    Say what now?


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    #179
    tawnyowl
    Registered Users Posts: 510 ✭✭✭tawnyowl


    Dave! wrote: »
    Water these religious conservative types smoking tbh?!
    A few years ago, Waters denied being a conservative - despite taking conservative positions on a lot of things (e.g. same-sex marriage).

    If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck...


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    #180
    Galvasean
    Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    tawnyowl wrote: »
    If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck...

    Crocodile?

    duck-crocodile1.jpg


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    #181
    fitz0
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    robindch wrote: »
    With irony meters fatally red-lined, Mr Witters is appearing this evening at the Dalkey Book Festival to talk about his book "How We Lost the Plot":

    He's finally got his autobiography published then?


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