We're the most prolific in Europe for making babies

stevejr

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/figures-shows-were-the-most-prolific-in-europe-for-making-babies-2810985.html

With the recession upon us, it seems that procreation is now our favourite form of recreation:pac:

Logical Fallacy

Anybody else seeing the CityPost ad on that page?

That dude is defo getting his balls licked.

7sr2z3fely84g5

Damn that reward you for more children welfare...

RHunce

As my Geography teacher said in class a few weeks ago - "when people are jobless and bored, they ride like rabbits"

Words of a wise man who also happened to spend his full day at work

alex73

All those good looking Polish women have corrupted the Irish lads. Tut tut.... Now we have thousands of polirish Kids.

Gandhi

alex73 wrote: »

All those good looking Polish women have corrupted the Irish lads. Tut tut.... Now we have thousands of polirish Kids.

Me being a Paddy and my wife being a Polack we refer to our kids as Padillacs.

pablomakaveli

I'm not surprised. It seems like a lot of women in Ireland at the moment are either pregnant or recently had kids.

suicide_circus

Wanna go halves on a bastard?

FesterBeatty

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Me being a Paddy and my wife being a Polack we refer to our kids as Padillacs.[/Quote]

Nick nack Paddilack leave our jobs alone!

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Anybody else seeing the CityPost ad on that page?

That dude is defo getting his balls licked.

Probably by the blonde with the 'come hither' look.

Logical Fallacy

Duffy the Vampire Slayer wrote: »

Probably by the blonde with the 'come hither' look.

Maybe if i use City Post, i too shall get a quality ball wash off a come hithery blonde!

And they say advertising doesn't work.

Ellis Dee

alex73 wrote: »

All those good looking Polish women have corrupted the Irish lads. Tut tut.... Now we have thousands of polirish Kids.

Ah yes, all those lovely Polish women - wish I was 40 years younger!;)

If Polish-Irish kids are "Polirish", what would you call a woman who is half Irish and half Finnish? I know one who just became a barrister in Dublin.:)

All suggestions welcome.:D

stevejr

suicide_circus wrote: »

Wanna go halves on a bastard?

Has there ever been a yes answer to that question?

Liam Byrne

RHunce wrote: »

As my Geography teacher said in class a few weeks ago - "when people are jobless and bored, they ride like rabbits"

Words of a wise man who also happened to spend his full day at work

There's riding like rabbits but there's little excuse for creating a child that you can't afford.

BTW, Accidents happen and all that, so not being inconsiderate to anyone who's been careful and still got caught, but my point is that accidents wouldn't account for a countrywide statistic.

Craebear

Paddy doesn't believe in contraceptives, they offend the lord above.

cbyrd

A lot of it is accidental . . i'm on my 4th accident. . . but hey. . i can afford it :P

RainbowRose81

Gandhi wrote: »

Me being a Paddy and my wife being a Polack we refer to our kids as Padillacs.

What does polack mean?

stevejr

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

What does polack mean?

polish person, not a type of fish

RainbowRose81

alex73 wrote: »

All those good looking Polish women have corrupted the Irish lads. Tut tut.... Now we have thousands of polirish Kids.

Well its not only foreign women, its foreign men.

RainbowRose81

stevejr wrote: »

polish person, not a type of fish

why don't they called them 'polish' then.

Chuck Stone

So a bunch of **** has become a pack of fuckers? :pac:


I jk. I love my fellow Irish folk and love being Irish myself as irrational as that sounds.

stevejr

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

why don't they called them 'polish' then.

haven't a notion........

RainbowRose81

I don't know how non weathly people can keep having children or even have one child.

Because first of all you need to be very healthy to have a baby. Secondly you suitable, dependable and supportive boyfriend/partner Third, you need a stable, secure good paying job with an understanding employer. Fourth, you need a live a house or a spacious apartment. Fifth, you need to have a car, Sixth, you need a bit of support network like people/family around you to help you. Seventh, if you don't have anyone to help you out you have to pay alot for child care. Eighth, you need a lot of energy you to have the energy and the time for a baby if you are working five days a week 45 hours a week. Thinking about all of that makes me very tired and depressed. Well the cenus indicates the growth in poplulation is the highest in europe so most people here are financially okay or otherwise to be able to have children.

alex73

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

I don't know how non weathly people can keep having children or even have one child.

Because first of all you need to be very healthy to have a baby. Secondly you suitable, dependable and supportive boyfriend/partner Third, you need a stable, secure good paying job with an understanding employer. Fourth, you need a live a house or a spacious apartment. Fifth, you need to have a car, Sixth, you need a bit of support network like people/family around you to help you. Seventh, if you don't have anyone to help you out you have to pay alot for child care. Eighth, you need a lot of energy you to have the energy and the time for a baby if you are working five days a week 45 hours a week. Thinking about all of that makes me very tired and depressed. Well the cenus indicates the growth in poplulation is the highest in europe so most people here are financially okay or otherwise to be able to have children.

You have it totally wrong... 1 or 2 kits cost a lot, but once you go over 6 kids it nearly pays of itself you get all types of grants, allowances.

If you are a normal family with 2 kids with normal wage, you are ****ed if they go to university trying to pay for everything.. If you have 6 kids in uni then they get grants, do you don't have to pay as much

Work the system.

Why to you think travellers have 8+ kids.... because they are creaming the system .

My name is URL

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

I don't know how non weathly people can keep having children or even have one child.

Because first of all you need to be very healthy to have a baby.
Secondly you suitable, dependable and supportive boyfriend/partner
Third, you need a stable, secure good paying job with an understanding employer.
Fourth, you need a live a house or a spacious apartment.
Fifth, you need to have a car,
Sixth, you need a bit of support network like people/family around you to help you.
Seventh, if you don't have anyone to help you out you have to pay alot for child care.
Eighth, you need a lot of energy you to have the energy and the time for a baby if you are working five days a week 45 hours a week.

Nah.. all that's needed is a couple of people and 15 minutes

EGAR

alex73 wrote: »

Why to you think travellers have 8+ kids.... because they are creaming the system .

Ahm, several non-Traveller families around here come to mind with 8+ kids.

Nolanger

Craebear wrote: »

Paddy doesn't believe in contraceptives, they offend the lord above.

Ditto abortion.

7sr2z3fely84g5

Lets be fair on the generous system-
Non traveller family getting alot benefits - http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/welfare-scrounge-family-fumes-over-benefits-story-1855273.html

Traveller getting alot benefits- http://www.independent.ie/national-news/jobless-traveller-buys-van-worth-euro15000-2353423.html

General General

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

I don't know how non weathly people can keep having children or even have one child.

Because first of all you need to be very healthy to have a baby. Secondly you suitable, dependable and supportive boyfriend/partner Third, you need a stable, secure good paying job with an understanding employer. Fourth, you need a live a house or a spacious apartment. Fifth, you need to have a car, Sixth, you need a bit of support network like people/family around you to help you. Seventh, if you don't have anyone to help you out you have to pay alot for child care. Eighth, you need a lot of energy you to have the energy and the time for a baby if you are working five days a week 45 hours a week. Thinking about all of that makes me very tired and depressed. Well the cenus indicates the growth in poplulation is the highest in europe so most people here are financially okay or otherwise to be able to have children.

Don't worry, you'll be dead soon.. & I doubt you'll be leaving any descendants after you.

RainbowRose81

alex73 wrote: »

You have it totally wrong... 1 or 2 kits cost a lot, but once you go over 6 kids it nearly pays of itself you get all types of grants, allowances.

If you are a normal family with 2 kids with normal wage, you are ****ed if they go to university trying to pay for everything.. If you have 6 kids in uni then they get grants, do you don't have to pay as much

Work the system.

Why to you think travellers have 8+ kids.... because they are creaming the system .

I am not wrong. What do you think i am an dog or cat having litters of kittens? People are not born to reproduce like animals. If i am physically strong enough and able to have one child in the future i would be happy. Most Irish women can reproduce like anything but not all of them and certainly not me. That is really very greedy and sad that some women only aspire to do nothing with their lives but reproduce by having a lot of babies, how would they have the time, energy and support for all of that and some women are struggling to just have one.
I don't want to live on welfare all my life what kind of life is that. There is a good chance you will get a poor council house or estate where there can be a lot of social problems.

RainbowRose81

General General wrote: »

Don't worry, you'll be dead soon.. & I doubt you'll be leaving any descendants after you.

Thats a a very messed up thing to say. How do you know I don't have children or how do you know I wont have. Would you tell that to some who couldn't have children?

RainbowRose81

My name is URL wrote: »

Nah.. all that's needed is a couple of people and 15 minutes

Well in my opinion its better to have things in place practically before bringing a child in to the world but its not as easy as that though for everyone.

syklops

Liam Byrne wrote: »

There's riding like rabbits but there's little excuse for creating a child that you can't afford.

BTW, Accidents happen and all that, so not being inconsiderate to anyone who's been careful and still got caught, but my point is that accidents wouldn't account for a countrywide statistic.

It would if they all went "Hey you know, we could get an extra 35 euros a week, if we had a baby, that would pay for the Sky+!"

7sr2z3fely84g5

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well in my opinion its better to have things in place practically before bringing a child in to the world but its not as easy as that though for everyone.

i think if two people who are drunk in a pub/club and fall in love thats last thing on their mind

General General

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Thats a a very messed up thing to say. How do you know I don't have children or how do you know I wont have. Would you tell that to some who couldn't have children?

1. You list a series of preconditions for having children as if you are an authority on the subject. 2. You comment on how phased you are by either the list or by people not meeting the preconditions. 3. Some other stuff.

I doubt that you will reproduce given your own set of preconditions for doing so & the fact that you came up with such a list & the fact that you seem completely lacking awareness that it's just your own wish list & the fact that you are so easily tired & depressed... plus the fact that you so easily jump to whining about how messed up something that was said to you in AH is...

The immense stupidity of your precondition of owning a car alone is enough for me to wonder how natural selection let you through the gates to this world.

On topic, given the population decline figures in the EU, this birth rate boom isn't a bad thing.

What's a bad thing is not learning two or three European languages of some business importance, not developing a knowledge of Mathematics & IT, plus lacking the skills/aspiration to become self employed.

RainbowRose81

Vera Wailing Transparency wrote: »

i think if two people who are drunk in a pub/club and fall in love thats last thing on their mind

Well if they want to have a baby that's okay.

later12

Not necessarily surprising that we have the highest natural rate of change in Europe, after all we have the youngest age profile in Europe. The median age in Ireland is a mere 34 years.

I would imagine that is slightly more relevant than the recession, if anything families might be more likely to put off having children during a recession.

And the research does not show that the Irish are the most prolific in Europe. I am not sure if that is the case, it may be, but that is not what is shown here.

alex73

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

I am not wrong. What do you think i am an dog or cat having litters of kittens? People are not born to reproduce like animals. If i am physically strong enough and able to have one child in the future i would be happy. Most Irish women can reproduce like anything but not all of them and certainly not me. That is really very greedy and sad that some women only aspire to do nothing with their lives but reproduce by having a lot of babies, how would they have the time, energy and support for all of that and some women are struggling to just have one.
I don't want to live on welfare all my life what kind of life is that. There is a good chance you will get a poor council house or estate where there can be a lot of social problems.

My comment was a bit T&C. Not matter how much money you have,, lots of children can be draining on a women if there is no support.

Personally I think 3 is my max... certainly my wife will NOT have anymore. (#3 was a surprise but she is not sorry)_

Boxoffrogs

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

I don't know how non weathly people can keep having children or even have one child.

Because first of all you need to be very healthy to have a baby. Secondly you suitable, dependable and supportive boyfriend/partner Third, you need a stable, secure good paying job with an understanding employer. Fourth, you need a live a house or a spacious apartment. Fifth, you need to have a car, Sixth, you need a bit of support network like people/family around you to help you. Seventh, if you don't have anyone to help you out you have to pay alot for child care. Eighth, you need a lot of energy you to have the energy and the time for a baby if you are working five days a week 45 hours a week. Thinking about all of that makes me very tired and depressed. Well the cenus indicates the growth in poplulation is the highest in europe so most people here are financially okay or otherwise to be able to have children.

:rolleyes:

Actually, you just need a vagina

RainbowRose81

General General wrote: »

1. You list a series of preconditions for having children as if you are an authority on the subject. 2. You comment on how phased you are by either the list or by people not meeting the preconditions. 3. Some other stuff.

I doubt that you will reproduce given your own set of preconditions for doing so & the fact that you came up with such a list & the fact that you seem completely lacking awareness that it's just your own wish list & the fact that you are so easily tired & depressed... plus the fact that you so easily jump to whining about how messed up something that was said to you in AH is...

The immense stupidity of your precondition of owning a car alone is enough for me to wonder how natural selection let you through the gates to this world.

On topic, given the population decline figures in the EU, this birth rate boom isn't a bad thing.

What's a bad thing is not learning two or three European languages of some business importance, not developing a knowledge of Mathematics & IT, plus lacking the skills/aspiration to become self employed.

Well if you happen to become pregnant and your boyfriend/partner left you. You have health problems, You have no job, no prospects, on welfare and living in a little bedsit and you don't have any friend or much of a family. How are you cope? How would you be able to buy the necessary things a baby needs like a buggy and that and you don't drive or even have a car, how on earth would you cope?

Some people do not have actually anything or anyone at all. So stop being hateful at the pre-conditions. I didn't say they are all necessary but most people have one of two of them circumstances in general and there are few not very hard isolated circumstances like the ones as I described above.

The immense stupidity of your precondition of owning a car alone is enough for me to wonder how natural selection let you through the gates to this world. - thats hateful thing to say.
A car would be necessary if you are not wealthy,how can you afford taxis and rely on buses to bring your baby to the hospital or to even move to a more suitable place.

RainbowRose81

General General wrote: »

1. You list a series of preconditions for having children as if you are an authority on the subject. 2. You comment on how phased you are by either the list or by people not meeting the preconditions. 3. Some other stuff.

I doubt that you will reproduce given your own set of preconditions for doing so & the fact that you came up with such a list & the fact that you seem completely lacking awareness that it's just your own wish list & the fact that you are so easily tired & depressed... plus the fact that you so easily jump to whining about how messed up something that was said to you in AH is...

The immense stupidity of your precondition of owning a car alone is enough for me to wonder how natural selection let you through the gates to this world.

On topic, given the population decline figures in the EU, this birth rate boom isn't a bad thing.

What's a bad thing is not learning two or three European languages of some business importance, not developing a knowledge of Mathematics & IT, plus lacking the skills/aspiration to become self employed.

You are ignorant and don't see things in presceptive

KeithM89_old

General General wrote: »

Don't worry, you'll be dead soon.. & I doubt you'll be leaving any descendants after you.

General General wrote: »

I doubt that you will reproduce given your own set of preconditions for doing so & the fact that you came up with such a list & the fact that you seem completely lacking awareness that it's just your own wish list & the fact that you are so easily tired & depressed... plus the fact that you so easily jump to whining about how messed up something that was said to you in AH is...

The immense stupidity of your precondition of owning a car alone is enough for me to wonder how natural selection let you through the gates to this world.

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

You are ignorant and don't see things in presceptive

Careful now...

General General

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well if you happen to become pregnant and your boyfriend/partner left you. You have health problems, You have no job, no prospects, on welfare and living in a little bedsit and you don't have any friend or much of a family. How are you cope? How would you be able to buy the necessary things a baby needs like a buggy and that and you don't drive or even have a car, how on earth would you cope?

Some people do not have actually anything or anyone at all. So stop being hateful at the pre-conditions. I didn't say they are all necessary but most people have one of two of them circumstances in general and there are few not very hard isolated circumstances like the ones as I described above.

The immense stupidity of your precondition of owning a car alone is enough for me to wonder how natural selection let you through the gates to this world. - thats hateful thing to say.
A car would be necessary if you are not wealthy,how can you afford taxis and rely on buses to bring your baby to the hospital or to even move to a more suitable place.

I didn't realize that the list of conditions you set out was a kind of list of conditions that may or may not in fact be necessary. I feel somewhat less ashamed about this than I would be if you'd used the word 'or' between each of them & indeed than I would be if you hadn't used the words; firstly, secondly & so on...

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

You are ignorant and don't see things in presceptive

Thank you for that personal insult & damning indictment of my person.

I am sure you won't want to waste any more of your time debating with me.

booboo88

FesterBeatty wrote: »

Nick nack Paddilack leave our jobs alone!

as cruel as that was, very funny

ricman

i think we have the highest welfare rates for mothers, people with 3 kids get more than the average wage, and sex education in many schools is not a high priority.Is this a coincidence ,or is it we just have a young population.IN some areas 16 year old girls are having kids.And of course abortion is not readily avaidable in ireland.Most single mothers get help from family and friends.

pragmatic1

Good. We need kids to pay for my pension.

pragmatic1

ricman wrote: »

i think we have the highest welfare rates for mothers, people with 3 kids get more than the average wage, and sex education in many schools is not a high priority.Is this a coincidence ,or is it we just have a young population.IN some areas 16 year old girls are having kids.And of course abortion is not readily avaidable in ireland.Most single mothers get help from family and friends.

16 year old girls are having kids everywhere. Have been since I was in secondary school.

suicide_circus

stevejr wrote: »

Has there ever been a yes answer to that question?

Ask yer ould wan

RainbowRose81

KeithM89 wrote: »

Careful now...

What do you mean? What are you getting at me for? Did you see what he said to me? He said he is surprised i was born naturally I said he is ignornant because that is obviously an ignorant thing and actually also hateful thing to say to anyone

ejmaztec

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

You are ignorant and don't see things in presceptive

Is that in Wales?

stevejr

suicide_circus wrote: »

Ask yer ould wan

Think I'll ask yours,..she should be waking up any minute now...