New Anthrax Song - Fight em till you can't

devildriver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzDmgn-G2FM

Takemyscars72

Saw a few live vids , loving this more polished version , hope its played at sonisphere.

Kess73

Not as good as the version they played live when John Bush came back. Less melodic and less heavy.

A lot less heavy and a hell of a lot less aggressive than the first version of the song with Dan Nelson singing.


To my ears it is like this studio version has taken the John Bush fronted version and added in a State Of Euphoria feel to it.


As someone who has been listening to Anthrax since the early to mid 80's, this is the first Anthrax album that I am not expecting a lot from beforehand. Hope I am proven wrong and that I get blown away by the album when it comes out, but I keep thinking that Belladonna being back will limit the band musically.

seachto7

The opening riff is a rip off from Persistence of Time.......

Jelle1880

Not impressed tbh.

Kess73

seachto7 wrote: »

The opening riff is a rip off from Persistence of Time.......

Yep, rips off some of Gridlock from that album.


What the song has done though is get me to put on State Of Euphoria for the first time in ages. Damn it is still a fine album when played loud.


Am hoping that a special edition of it, similar to the Among The Living one from a few years back, gets released.

lord lucan

I enjoyed that tbh. Sounds like old school Anthrax which is never a bad thing.

darconio

lord lucan wrote: »

I enjoyed that tbh. Sounds like old school Anthrax which is never a bad thing.

Couldn't agree more!

Kess73

I have no idea why Joey calls it the Vampire song before the band play it live.

Kind of obvious that it is about a Zombie outbreak.



Just me having another little stab at Belladonna.

lord lucan

The more i listen to this track the more excited i am about the new album. Roll on September 12th.:)

Kess73

lord lucan wrote: »

The more i listen to this track the more excited i am about the new album. Roll on September 12th.:)

It's growing on me a little with Belladonna singing. I still think his voice is nowhere near as good as it was, and I am still finding it hard to get used to this song with him on it after loving the version that John Bush really put his mark on.

I'll buy the album, but as I am not expecting a whole lot from it, I hope it ends up kicking my ass.

lord lucan

Another new song,"The Devil You Know" was premiered on US radio a few days ago. This poor quality recording is the best i can find.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vBoY7-jHMk

lord lucan

Given it a few listens now,quite catchy. More hard rock than thrash,it's got a good hook to it. I'll reserve judgement until i hear a better quality version.

Kess73

Now that really sounds like it was tailor made for a voice like that of John Bush.

Will have to give it a few more listens though and with luck a better quality version will raise it's head soon.

lord lucan

Album quality here:http://www.guitarworld.com/exclusive-anthrax-premiere-new-song-devil-you-know

lord lucan

First review i've found of the new album:http://www.bravewords.com/news/167807

seachto7

it's ok, not great though, would have been better with John Bush!

lord lucan

Another good review,getting excited now!:)

http://www.examiner.com/metal-music-in-chicago/forthcoming-anthrax-album-worship-music-well-worth-the-praise-review

Kess73

lord lucan wrote: »

Another good review,getting excited now!:)

http://www.examiner.com/metal-music-in-chicago/forthcoming-anthrax-album-worship-music-well-worth-the-praise-review

As am I. I'm my own worst enemy.:)

I said for months and months that I was a bit nonplussed about this release and that I was not expecting much, and now I am dying for it to be released.

I am refusing to find it anywhere to listen to it as I want the day I get the cd to be the first day I listen to the album in full.

Bast*rds may break me if it does not turn out to be a good un


Plus Testament have an album out later this year and Jane's Addiction have a new one two weeks after the Anthrax album.

The one old school band I am starting to not look forward to this autumn is Megadeth after hearing a couple of the new songs on an American Rock station online. Just sounded very generic and very weak.

ush

Bush is the best singer they had.

Kess73

ush wrote: »

Bush is the best singer they had.

No arguements from me on that one, but I am still getting excited about the new album despite my earlier doses of meh about it.


Had Sound Of White Noise in the car with me this morning. Is still my favourite Anthrax album and I say this as someone who has been able to buy all their albums as they came out since Spreading The Disease (technically it was the Armed And Dangerous EP that got me into Anthrax in a big way as I missed Fistful Of Metal when it was released) in 1985.

Het-Field

ush wrote: »

Bush is the best singer they had.

I would say that Belladonna is up there with Bruce Dickinson as one of metal's truly amazing vocalists.

ush

You re having a laugh there Het. Saw The Big 4 this summer and Belladona was the weak link. Even allowing for Mustaine having a nightmare.

Kess73

ush wrote: »

You re having a laugh there Het. Saw The Big 4 this summer and Belladona was the weak link. Even allowing for Mustaine having a nightmare.

Yeah saw him live not too long after he first came back, and then saw him front the band again during this term back, and the voice was struggling with some of stuff he originally sang on, let alone his attempts at singing Only. It is not for no reason that since he came back this time that the band have had to drop playing songs from the Bush albums save for Only.

I really don't think he is back for the long haul, and I have to admit I thought that Worship Music would never come out with him on vocals, so he has already lasted far longer than I expected.


It is a shame because there are plenty of songs from the Bush era that were brilliant live that have been totally dropped from the setlist since Belladonna returned. At least with Bush in the band, songs from any Anthrax album could be sang along with some cracking live covers of songs by the likes of Pantera, Metallica, Maiden, Lizzy etc.


It is not as though the original Belladonna era albumwise was bad in any way, because I was blown away by Among/State/Persistance when they came out, and Spreading is still a fun listen, but I felt the Bush albums saw the band grow and add to their sound which took them, for me anyway, to a higher level musically.

Belladonna is back, and just as Bush had big shoes to fill when Belladonna first left, Belladonna has even bigger vocal shoes to fill in the absence of John Bush.


I have gone off of Belladonna as a person and performer in a big way over the last 15 to 20 years, but I still hope he manages to do a great job on the new album because Anthrax are a band I grew up with, and I certainly want there to be a chance of more good Anthrax albums.

seachto7

Think I'll stick on the latest Armored Saint album.........

Kess73

seachto7 wrote: »

Think I'll stick on the latest Armored Saint album.........

La Raza?


Thought it was a very inconsistent album that kinda fell between two stools in what it was trying to be. I think it suffered badly due to the band being apart for so long and from them all being involved in other projects, with the end product sounding like ideas were shoehorned together on certain songs.

Symbol Of Salvation is probably their best album by some distance, but March Of The Saint still holds up as an excellent debut album. I still have the cassette version of that from 1984 kicking about.:D

seachto7

yup, la raza, I like the production, even though, as you say, the songs are a wee bit weak.......... I just like John Bush!!

Kess73

seachto7 wrote: »

yup, la raza, I like the production, even though, as you say, the songs are a wee bit weak.......... I just like John Bush!!

Yeah am very partial to his voice as well.

Who you might check out, if of course you have not already done so, is Joey Vera's solo stuff especially his stuff as A Chinese Firedrill.

He released the album Circles about 5 years ago, and everything you hear on the album is him. Bass, Drums, Guitar, vocals.


Bush was the voice of Armored Saint but I think there can be no arguement that Prichard (RIP) and Vera were the creative forces behind the band.

seachto7

Not heard Vera's stuff, but he was filling in on bass when I saw Anthrax in the ambassador a good few years back now, maybe 6 or 7 years ago...

Kess73

seachto7 wrote: »

Not heard Vera's stuff, but he was filling in on bass when I saw Anthrax in the ambassador a good few years back now, maybe 6 or 7 years ago...

Yep he played with Anthrax for a year when Frankie Bello was out.


And another little bit of metal trivia for ya. Joey Vera was asked to try out for Metallica by Lars after Cliff Burton died, and John Buysh was asked to join Metallica twice, just before Kill Em All and again just before Ride The Lightning.

seachto7

can you imagine if Bush had joined Metallica? Always wonder what it would have sounded like........

Kess73

seachto7 wrote: »

can you imagine if Bush had joined Metallica? Always wonder what it would have sounded like........

Have heard him sing songs from Ride The Lightning and Master Of Puppets when Anthrax covered them live, and he sounded pretty damn good singing stuff from that era.


The idea back then was for Metallica to become a five piece, but Bush wanted to stay with Armored Saint.

Kess73

Anyone pick up the new album yet? Will be getting it later today.

itunes have a 90 second preview of every song a taster of what it might sound like.

The itunes previews has me thinking that everything after 1991 has ceased to exist in the world of Anthrax:D as it is sounding a mash up of all the albums that had Belladonna on them.

Looking forward to giving it a proper listen later on though.

NIBBS

I like it, it's not blown me away - but I like it, I actually think it's got quite a bit of the direction they went in with Bush, which is no bad thing either.....will take some more listening though.....

Kess73

First two listens have me thinking that it is alright but nothing special. They have recycled a hell of a lot of their old riffs though. Quite a few from the albums Persistence Of Time and State Of Euphoria.


The song Judas Priest has me laughing as it is a very blatant rip off of a Sacred Reich song.


Bit of a mixed bag to my ears so far though, and the quality of the productions does not help especially on the drums. It is a lot weaker than the last Anthrax studio album though (WHCFYA), and defo weaker than the last album Belladonna did with the band before this (POT)



Might grow a bit more on me after a few more listens though, but my feeling after two listens is that is is a 2.5 or 3 out of five album. Not bad, but nothing special either.

deathrider

Haven't gotten the chance to give it a full spin yet. Got to track 8 or 9 at the most. I'll give it some serious listening over the weekend. I think the first three songs (not including the intro) are incredible. Must have listened to each of them about seven times today.

Kess73

Ended up having a major Anthrax night (and early morning)


I played POT and then the new album after it. The new album sounded very poor in comparison and the difference in Belladonna's vocals was striking.


I then played WHCFYA and the new album after it. The new album sounded weak.

Also what struck me was that POT and WHCFYA both sound far more modern than the new album, both in terms of the music and the production.

Then as the night and morning wore on (and a couple bottles of Aspall Organic cyder, yes with a Y as it is from Suffolk, got downed) other Anthrax albums came out to play and so did the practise Bass

So the scientific results of the night are that the following albums are better than the new one

Spreading The Disease

Among The Living (had forgotten how good it sounds on vinyl)

State Of Euphoria (Still waiting for a remastered rerelease a la what Among The Living got)

Persistence Of Time ( Damn this album has aged well)

Sound Of White Noise

Stomp 442 (this was a very close thing but I think Stomp just about shades it.)

We Have Come For You All.



So basically I think the new album beats Fistful Of Metal and Volume 8: The Threat Is Real

It really struggles to stand beside most of the band's back catalogue, and while I am going to give it more spins in the hope that it grows on me, I know that if it did not have the name Anthrax on it's cover that I would not be giving it that chance to grow on me.

Still a 2.5 or 3 out of five album to my ears. Still not a bad album, but nothing special.:(

lord lucan

Ah lads,i'm resisting the temptation to listen to it before release but you're testing my resolve with all this talk of the new album!:P

Kess73

lord lucan wrote: »

Ah lads,i'm resisting the temptation to listen to it before release but you're testing my resolve with all this talk of the new album!:P

It came out in the shops yesterday. Monday is the UK release date not the Irish release date.

lord lucan

Kess73 wrote: »

It came out in the shops yesterday. Monday is the UK release date not the Irish release date.

Ah ****e,thought it wasn't out until Monday even though european releases are typically on fridays.

Off to 7Digital to buy so.:)

Kess73

lord lucan wrote: »

Ah ****e,thought it wasn't out until Monday even though european releases are typically on fridays.

Off to 7Digital to buy so.:)

I expect your first thoughts on the album in a little over an hour then.

lord lucan

Pretty good so far. Need to give it a few more spins over the next few days but so far i think it's a very good Anthrax album. Nothings gonna touch their back catalogue and tbh all i'm looking for is a rocking album and so far it sounds like i've got one.:)

Kess73

lord lucan wrote: »

Pretty good so far. Need to give it a few more spins over the next few days but so far i think it's a very good Anthrax album. Nothings gonna touch their back catalogue and tbh all i'm looking for is a rocking album and so far it sounds like i've got one.:)

High praise indeed.

For me a very good Anthrax album would be Sound, State, or Persistence.

I still think in terms of Anthrax albums that there are six if not seven better Anthrax albums than Worship music. Given that they only have ten studio albums that would put Worship in the average to good range for me.

Funny thing about Anthrax though is that when I listen to a lot of their albums together as I did the other night, the fact that they don't have any album that is a stinker is to their credit. Most bands that have released ten studio albums will have one duffer in there.

In fact if one looks at Anthrax albums in order of release then their first six studio albums could be said to have gotten better with each release.

deathrider

The more I listen to this record, the more Bush I can hear in it. Don't get me wrong, I know it's Belladonna, but those vocal lines have Bush written all over them. I'm not b1tching though, it's a very interresting sound.

Kess73

deathrider wrote: »

The more I listen to this record, the more Bush I can hear in it. Don't get me wrong, I know it's Belladonna, but those vocal lines have Bush written all over them. I'm not b1tching though, it's a very interresting sound.

Yeah a few of the songs sound like they were meant for a singer like Bush.

The Devil You Know
I'm Alive
Crawl - (I get a bit of an Alice In Chains vibe from the vocal style on this as well)
In The End

All sound like they were originally tailor made for Bush or Nelson.

The Giant kinda falls, for me anyway, between trying to be both a Bush and Belladonna song at the same time.

lord lucan

Been cranking the new album at volume 20 for the last 3 hours. Getting better and better. Love it.

Crawl sounds like it was a left over from a Pearl Jam session for some reason?!

The Giant could be a rocker live,has a great vibe about it.

Off tomorrow,gonna play the bejaysus out of it!:D

NIBBS

lord lucan wrote: »

Been cranking the new album at volume 20 for the last 3 hours. Getting better and better. Love it.

Crawl sounds like it was a left over from a Pearl Jam session for some reason?!

The Giant could be a rocker live,has a great vibe about it.

Off tomorrow,gonna play the bejaysus out of it!:D

Yeah I'm listening to it pretty much non stop at the minute and I really like it, for me they should make another album sooner rather than later and see where they can go with this and some input from Joey............some of the tracks that didn't get me straight away are starting to hit home now..........and I want to see them live.......which is never a bad thing......

lord lucan

Slightly off topic but had to post this. The band were playing in L.A. last night and a guy hopped on stage. Security tackled him but in the process took out Joey too. Frank Bello lost it and went to town on the security. Great craic!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l48mUgr2FeE

NIBBS

lord lucan wrote: »

Slightly off topic but had to post this. The band were playing in L.A. last night and a guy hopped on stage. Security tackled him but in the process took out Joey too. Frank Bello lost it and went to town on the security. Great craic!

What a tool, he just went head first at the guy without any thought for the environment, ignore the moronic taking out of Joey, could easily have been crushing the guys head off some part of the stage setup - lack of training, could have been handled very easily without any drama.....twat...
the f**k him up chants are aimed at the security guy I guess ?

darconio

What a difference...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm9hBvjCMFY

Some groups/venues were not so fussy about stage diving, from the video I had the impression that Joey wanted to tackle that dude, either way very badly played

lord lucan

NIBBS wrote: »

the f**k him up chants are aimed at the security guy I guess ?

I think the security guy mainly but maybe a little towards the stage invader too for starting the whole thing. With Health and Safety bollocks and insurance premiums governing gigs these days they're not the fun they used to be.

Scott looked super pissed off with the security.