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Saorview: Q: I get Radio but no TV channels? Answer...

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  • #32
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,098 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    djmj wrote: »
    I'm getting 21 radio stations but no TV station it's that a problem with poor signal (Indoor TV Aerial) or that my TV is not Saorview.

    Audio and no pictures would indicate no MPEG-4 video decoder in the TV for the Irish digital TV channels. STB will be required with that TV.

    What is the model no. of the TV?
    djmj wrote: »
    If I'm correct if the signal will be fine I need to get radio and Tv stations but TV chanels without picture ?

    Not sure what you're asking there. If you're asking about the received signal being OK for Saorview then the answer appears to be yes. Indoor aerials are OK in strong signal areas but can be prone to local interference.


  • #33
    djmj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭djmj


    Thank you for your answer The Cush .
    The Cush wrote: »
    What is the model no. of the TV?
    Philips 37PF9731D
    The Cush wrote: »
    Not sure what you're asking there. If you're asking about the received signal being OK for Saorview then the answer appears to be yes. Indoor aerials are OK in strong signal areas but can be prone to local interference.

    I'm surprised that I'm getting 21 channels - 21 radio channels and I'm not getting any TV channels at all.


  • #34
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,098 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    djmj wrote: »
    I'm surprised that I'm getting 21 channels - 21 radio channels and I'm not getting any TV channels at all.

    Saorview only transmit 10 radio channels, are the others the audio for the TV channels?


  • #35
    djmj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭djmj


    This is what I'm getting
    1 - 11 Future Service
    12 - RTE 2 FM
    13 - RTE 2 XM
    14 - RTE Chill
    15 - RTE Choice
    16 - RTE Gold
    17 - RTE Lyric FM
    18 - RTE Plus
    19 - RTE Radio 1
    20 - RTE Radio 1 Ex
    21 - RTE Radio na


  • #36
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,098 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    djmj wrote: »
    This is what I'm getting
    1 - 11 Future Service
    12 - RTE 2 FM
    13 - RTE 2 XM
    14 - RTE Chill
    15 - RTE Choice
    16 - RTE Gold
    17 - RTE Lyric FM
    18 - RTE Plus
    19 - RTE Radio 1
    20 - RTE Radio 1 Ex
    21 - RTE Radio na

    Mux 1 & 2 radio channels.


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  • #37
    djmj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭djmj


    The Cush wrote: »
    Mux 1 & 2 radio channels.
    Why I'm not getting nothing more ? No TV channels ?


  • #38
    MarkK
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 721 ✭✭✭MarkK


    djmj wrote: »
    Why I'm not getting nothing more ? No TV channels ?

    Your TV is not compatible with the MPEG4 encoding used for Saorview TV pictures.
    You will need a set top box, PVR or a new telly to get Saorview.


  • #39
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,098 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    djmj wrote: »
    Why I'm not getting nothing more ? No TV channels ?

    No video on the TV channels would be down to no MPEG-4 video decoding but cannot say why you get no audio.

    What country/region did you use when you installed the TV? Suggest you try France or Norway as the country and see if it make any difference.

    Have you tried a firmware upgrade? http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/cpindex.pl?ctn=37PF9731D/10&scy=gb&slg=en&mid=Link_Software


  • #40
    djmj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭djmj


    I have the latest Philips firmware.
    Before I was trying with UK as location but I'm getting this same if I setup France or Norway.


  • #41
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,098 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    djmj wrote: »
    I have the latest Philips firmware.
    Before I was trying with UK as location but I'm getting this same if I setup France or Norway.

    Back to my original reply above - STB will be required with that TV.


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  • #42
    djmj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭djmj


    The Cush wrote: »
    Back to my original reply above - STB will be required with that TV.

    Thank you The Cush with STB everything is working fine.


  • #43
    bertie4evr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 934 ✭✭✭bertie4evr


    I have this tv upstairs. It says that it is Saorview approved. When I do a channel scan I can see all the channels and radio stations but can't watch them. If its listed as Saorview approved ut doesn't work could I get a refund?


  • #44
    djmj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭djmj


    Are you getting only audio or what ?


  • #45
    bertie4evr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 934 ✭✭✭bertie4evr


    No. Once its finished installing them it brings me back to the channel list and only the radio stations are listed. I cant find the TV channels anywhere.


  • #46
    Mr McBoatface
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭Mr McBoatface


    bertie4evr wrote: »
    No. Once its finished installing them it brings me back to the channel list and only the radio stations are listed. I cant find the TV channels anywhere.


    Just bring it back and get a refund or exchange for a working product. It wouldn't be the first time Argos sold a non-compliant TV as compliant - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=70788358 .

    The official Saorview product page lists some Alba TV's but instead of actual model numbers it appears to have Argos Catalogue numbers listed !!!! For example on the Saorview product page Alba product 5298343 = Argos 529/8343


  • #47
    djmj
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭djmj


    bertie4evr wrote: »
    No. Once its finished installing them it brings me back to the channel list and only the radio stations are listed. I cant find the TV channels anywhere.

    You have this same what I was getting on my TV before I bought STB box.


  • #48
    Enda Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭Enda Murphy


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    If you bought that telly since 2009 bring it back for a full refund. you were sold a pup.

    The tv the op was sold was not a pup, It would work fine with sky or upc which most people in this country have already been using for years, I dont know why anybody is arsed with saorview and its one and half new stations.


  • #49
    SRB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 820 ✭✭✭SRB


    Enda, you have to pay for those services, plus, generally, they'll only be on one TV in your average house, unless you've a couple of boxes, multiroom subs etc. Soarview has widescreen, free to air and (ok, one) HD. If you're in an area with UK Freeview overspill or have a DTT/Freesat combi box, it's very attractive indeed.


  • #50
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,098 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Enda Murphy wrote: »
    I dont know why anybody is arsed with saorview and its one and half new stations.

    Because 250,000 households don't want to or can't afford to pay an additional subscription over and above the TV Licence fee to watch our "free-to-air" public service channels. Over 600,000 (37%) households in the country receive TV through an aerial on at least one television in their home and in 12 months time if they don't switchover they will be looking at blank screens.


  • #51
    Enda Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭Enda Murphy


    SRB wrote: »
    Enda, you have to pay for those services, plus, generally, they'll only be on one TV in your average house, unless you've a couple of boxes, multiroom subs etc. Soarview has widescreen, free to air and (ok, one) HD. If you're in an area with UK Freeview overspill or have a DTT/Freesat combi box, it's very attractive indeed.

    Saorview is not very different from analogue though, I mean 3E is the only full service you get thats not on analog, Sure Rte jr 12 hours of kids shows has been on RTE TWO for years expect it used to be called the den, You would swear that saorview is some kind of alternative to sky the way people are talking


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  • #52
    Enda Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭Enda Murphy


    The Cush wrote: »
    Because 250,000 households don't want to or can't afford to pay an additional subscription over and above the TV Licence fee to watch our "free-to-air" public service channels. Over 600,000 (37%) households in the country receive TV through an aerial on at least one television in their home and in 12 months time if they don't switchover they will be looking at blank screens.

    The analogue switch off is happening way to soon, it should not happen until at least 2015


  • #53
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,098 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Enda Murphy wrote: »
    The analogue switch off is happening way to soon, it should not happen until at least 2015

    We are one of the last few EU countries to switchoff analogue in late 2012 with only Poland slipping into mid 2013. The upper TV band has to be cleared of broadcasting by 1st Jan 2013 by EU Directive.


  • #54
    Enda Murphy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭Enda Murphy


    The Cush wrote: »
    We are one of the last few EU countries to switchoff analogue in late 2012 with only Poland slipping into mid 2013. The upper TV band has to be cleared of broadcasting by 1st Jan 2013 by EU Directive.

    Lol and would be be thrown out of the eu if we didnt switch it off? The problem is the launch of dtt has come to late for us to switch off next year, The uk have had an awearness campain for 7 or more years


  • #55
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,098 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Enda Murphy wrote: »
    Lol and would be be thrown out of the eu if we didnt switch it off?

    Of course not.

    The date is set and coordinated with NI and the mobile operators will be launching services in the upper TV band from early 2013.


  • #56
    STB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,178 ✭✭✭STB


    Enda Murphy wrote: »
    The tv the op was sold was not a pup, It would work fine with sky or upc which most people in this country have already been using for years, I dont know why anybody is arsed with saorview and its one and half new stations.

    Its people like you that makes Sky or UPC's job all the easier Enda.

    Not EVERYONE can afford to pay Sky or UPC. People are jumping ship from pay services everyday, recession, no jobs, tightening of belts. And those who don't are ill-informed (normally by equally ill-informed people who post on fora). You do not have to subscribe to PAY TV services to view Saorview - its is FREE.

    And why would they want to pay for Sky or UPC anyhow ? 9 out of the Top 10 stations that people watch everyday are Free to Air without subscription to SKY or UPC. This is easily achievable with a HD combo box (a once off cost of less than €100) that does both Saorview and UK Satellite stations in one box on one channel list with one remote control. No more bills.

    Also Saorview ALONE is not 1 and and half extra channels. Saorview replaces ALL analogue TV for good from October next year.

    To the person that asked the question in the first instance:

    It is not unreasonable in 2011 to expect the TVs integrated tuners to pick up Saorview out of the box. Most IDTVs these days regardless of whether they also include analogue tuners should not be sold as a television. They would have a shelf life of less than 1 year if that was the case. Analogue switch off October 2012. It is not the retailers decision to make about how the end user can "just subscribe to UPC/Sky" and use that as a smokescreen to sell old antiquated, cheap and unsuitable warehoused tat. NO second guessing of the consumer please. And if you are going to sell TVs make sure that the basic integrated tuner can pick up basic television services WITHOUT SUBSCRIPTION as is the norm across other countries in the EU. Platform friendliness and all that!!!! Ha. If people want to subscribe to pay services after that it is the individuals perogative.

    Our spec for Saorview was published in February 2008 for all manufacturers and retailers.

    Saorview has been on air in MPEG4 continuously since August 2008.

    Bring it back and get a refund.
    Enda Murphy wrote: »
    Lol and would be be thrown out of the eu if we didnt switch it off? The problem is the launch of dtt has come to late for us to switch off next year, The uk have had an awearness campain for 7 or more years

    Again this is nonsense. Our spec for Saorview was published in February 2008 for all manufacturers and retailers.

    Saorview has been on air in MPEG4 continuously since August 2008. Saorview has had much press coverage since then. You would had to have been asleep not to have been aware of it.

    The UK have not had an awareness campaign for 7 years as part of DSO and ASO. What they most certainly have is a situation of double DSO whereby they now have 2 different platforms - DVB-T for Freeview (standard definition) and DVB-T2 for Freeview HD through there change in mind of the effective platform. Effectively people who were early and moderately late adopter have had to buy digital equipment twice if not more due to these changes.

    Meanwhile we made the right decision (back in 2008) in regards to the use of highly efficient codec in MPEG4 H264 on the DVB-T platform widely used now by the majority of broadcasters within the EU and distributed as a basic standard TV sold at an affordable basis by major manufacturers on a pan european basis.


  • #57
    macfhinn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭macfhinn


    how do you get radio stations?


  • #58
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,098 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    macfhinn wrote: »
    how do you get radio stations?

    They are tuned in automatically with the TV channels when you setup the Saorview TV or STB. Stored from LCN/channel no. 200 upwards


  • #59
    dowtchaboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭dowtchaboy


    macfhinn wrote: »
    how do you get radio stations?

    On my Freeview box the radio stations are 200 upwards.
    On my Saorview box (Sam's little SCART module that hides behind the set) there's a TV/Radio button to switch between (you guessed it) TV and Radio. Quality of the radio is excellent and you can get Lyric, Chill, Gold ("for over-35's") etc. Only drawback if you want to have say RTE Radio 1 on in more than one room is that the digital channels are about 2 seconds behind the "ordinary" broadcast.
    http://www.saorview.ie/channels-services/digital-radio-channels/


  • #60
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Any of those radio stations on aac3 yet or are they all still mp2 ??


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  • #61
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 20,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    dowtchaboy wrote: »
    On my Freeview box the radio stations are 200 upwards.
    On my Saorview box (Sam's little SCART module that hides behind the set) there's a TV/Radio button to switch between (you guessed it) TV and Radio. Quality of the radio is excellent and you can get Lyric, Chill, Gold ("for over-35's") etc. Only drawback if you want to have say RTE Radio 1 on in more than one room is that the digital channels are about 2 seconds behind the "ordinary" broadcast.
    http://www.saorview.ie/channels-services/digital-radio-channels/

    Worse than that, if you have mutiple TVs/radios around, all on DTT, they are a differing amount out, giving rise to weird echos. My box is quicker than the LG tv I have in a nearby room and it is awful if both are tuned to the same channel, but in earshot. It should have been in the spec for DTT to standardise on the delay that DTT is behind direct transmission. 'The time now is ........ O'clock.....more or less ... .' The old exact time signal will be gone in a year.


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