dark shadow

tallaghtmick

hey a friend took this pic and sent it to me because im a big believer in the paranormal,anyway she sent the pic and i asked was it her shadow reflecting and she said no that the shadow was there only after she took the photo,at night she says she can hear crying and things are being moved about,after i looked at the pic i can see a face i have it circled,.....also in before skeptics if you wanna dis the photo please start another thread in the skeptics corner :pac:

so what are your thoughts on it?

Urizen

I can see at least 6 faces in that, in various poses. It's basic simulacra, nothing to it man. What was it supposed to be of?

tallaghtmick

Urizen wrote: »

I can see at least 6 faces in that, in various poses. It's basic simulacra, nothing to it man. What was it supposed to be of?

she says shes seeing smoke around the house and general poltergeist activity.6 faces :pac: i need my eyes tested lol

Urizen

tallaghtmick wrote: »

i need my eyes tested lol

Nah, tis human nature. Once you start looking for them, you see them.

raveni

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

Out of curiousity, what is the picture actually of? The quality...

tallaghtmick

raveni wrote: »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia

Out of curiousity, what is the picture actually of? The quality...

typical phone cam,she said there was nothing there and it was just a random picture taken in the haunted room(which was my advice)

Riamfada

Two options. One it's paradowhotsits or two, there is a demon living in the house and she's going to die.

yammycat

Pareidolia , when I was a nipper the piles of clothes at the bottom of my bed used to terrify me by night, they were always a hideous monster of one type or another

Slippin Jimmy

Urizen wrote: »

I can see at least 6 faces in that, in various poses. It's basic simulacra, nothing to it man. What was it supposed to be of?

I've tried for the life of me, and can't even find one . Can you point some out to me, im curious now.

Oryx

Riamfada wrote: »

Two options. One it's paradowhotsits or two, there is a demon living in the house and she's going to die.

A heads up to you and anyone else posting in this thread. Because of a lot of p*taking replies on the forum of late Im on zero tolerance of any idiotic posts. This qualifies as such. I know y'all like a laugh but it puts off people who want genuine replies.

Riamfada

PerhAps a sticky linking to loads of information about pareidolia would end these homogenous threads and give people the information they need without having constant threads about it.

If you see a face in something, it's always what it is. If there was a sticky people would get the information.

tallaghtmick

Riamfada wrote: »

PerhAps a sticky linking to loads of information about pareidolia would end these homogenous threads and give people the information they need without having constant threads about it.

If you see a face in something, it's always what it is. If there was a sticky people would get the information.

These threads are the reason theres a paranormal forum and your comments are the reason theres a skeptics corner,fair enough you dont believe in ghosts or whatever but there are people that do and we dont need negative comments when we are just looking for opinions from believers.

Riamfada

tallaghtmick wrote: »

These threads are the reason theres a paranormal forum and your comments are the reason theres a skeptics corner,fair enough you dont believe in ghosts or whatever but there are people that do and we dont need negative comments when we are just looking for opinions from believers.

I never said I don't believe in ghosts, I'm actually part of an investigation team and heading on one next week. I just Think there is more than enough information on the internet about this type of thing being 100 percent explained without having yet another discussion about the same thing.

If you are just looking from opinions from believers and don't want to hear the plain obvious I suggest you try a different forum because if it's not paranormal you will be told it's not.

tallaghtmick

Riamfada wrote: »

I never said I don't believe in ghosts, I'm actually part of an investigation team and heading on one next week. I just Think there is more than enough information on the internet about this type of thing being 100 percent explained without having yet another discussion about the same thing.

If you are just looking from opinions from believers and don't want to hear the plain obvious I suggest you try a different forum because if it's not paranormal you will be told it's not.

fair enough but theres no need for the negative comments,simple as this i seen the face and have shown it to people without pointing out the face and they say the same thing,the girl in question is petrified at home as she can hear crying and things get moved around a lot and even at one point a bottle of coke was flung across the room with 3 people in it.

Riamfada

Okay but honestly it's can all be rationally explained.

Cunning Stunt

tallaghtmick wrote: »

These threads are the reason theres a paranormal forum and your comments are the reason theres a skeptics corner,fair enough you dont believe in ghosts or whatever but there are people that do and we dont need negative comments when we are just looking for opinions from believers.

...Even believers need to evaluate the possibilities of rational explanations..The fact that this is the paranormal forum does not mean that every single image and story posted is cause by the supernatural.

Oryx

Can everyone refrain from backseat modding here? If you have suggestions for how the forum is run by all means open a new thread for them. Wed be glad to get your insights. This thread is not the place for it tho.

I will take the time to address one point. If the p&m forum is anything to go by, people don't read stickies.

Antikythera

tallaghtmick wrote: »

at one point a bottle of coke was flung across the room with 3 people in it.

How on earth did three people fit into a coke bottle?

meryem

I guess you are trying to make joke out of the posted line. In the above given lines tallaghtmick tried to say a bottle of coke flung across the room in the presence of 3 people present there(in the room not in the coke bottle).

Riamfada

The pressure in the bottle caused the top to blow off and the bottle to dart a few feet across a room. Ive seen it before. The crying baby was a neighbour's child.

tallaghtmick

tbh id like oryx to lock this thread its full of time wasters and piss takers

Gremlin

Mick, if you believe there's a ghost in that photo then good on you man. However you can't expect to come to a public forum frequented by believers and demand that they affirm your belief.

tallaghtmick

Gremlin wrote: »

Mick, if you believe there's a ghost in that photo then good on you man. However you can't expect to come to a public forum frequented by believers and demand that they affirm your belief.

If you cant see anything then why post simply looking for thanks with cheeky comments,theres a skeptics corner for a reason.

Gremlin

tallaghtmick wrote: »

If you cant see anything then why post simply looking for thanks with cheeky comments,theres a skeptics corner for a reason.

Did I say anything sceptical about your post? If so please report it to a moderator.

Oryx

Opinion is totally allowed here. Making fun of other opinions is not. Noone here has a final word, as in 'I'm right and youre wrong' its all about discussion and ideas on what something might be. You are not allowed to bash someone over the head with your opinion no matter which 'side' you're on.

And another grammar Nazi joke like the coke one above will be infraction worthy.

tallaghtmick

Gremlin wrote: »

Did I say anything sceptical about your post? If so please report it to a moderator.

Did i name anyone?

Gremlin

Mick, I'm not getting into a childish debate with you. Good luck.

In fairness to you, you did start the thread looking for opinion on the wider issue of strange events at your friends house and the whole issue of the photo seemed to take over. So your original reason for posting has not really been served.

I might suggest you get your friend to document events as they happen. This will help your friend review whats going on in a more structured context.

tallaghtmick

Gremlin wrote: »

Mick, I'm not getting into a childish debate with you. Good luck.

In fairness to you, you did start the thread looking for opinion on the wider issue of strange events at your friends house and the whole issue of the photo seemed to take over. So your original reason for posting has not really been served.

I might suggest you get your friend to document events as they happen. This will help your friend review whats going on in a more structured context.

pretty much everything i mentioned is happening over and over,although i have noticed that spirits do follow her,shes lived in 3 seperate houses since ive known her and always has something happen,i dont know if its because she's had a very hard life i.e parents dying young,her having a child at a young age,suffering from depression etc.

Gremlin

tallaghtmick wrote: »

pretty much everything i mentioned is happening over and over,although i have noticed that spirits do follow her,shes lived in 3 seperate houses since ive known her and always has something happen,i dont know if its because she's had a very hard life i.e parents dying young,her having a child at a young age,suffering from depression etc.

I'd say whether these spirits are real or not is not really that important. What is true is they are VERY real to your friend. Thats whats important. I really hope your friend has success dealing with some of these awful issues and maybe this might just help the spirits leave her alone.

tallaghtmick

Gremlin wrote: »

I'd say whether these spirits are real or not is not really that important. What is true is they are VERY real to your friend. Thats whats important. I really hope your friend has success dealing with some of these awful issues and maybe this might just help the spirits leave her alone.

i told her to do the usual,ask the spirit to leave that its frightening them all,advised to get a psychic in even went as far as telling her to use holy water......i renounced religion but have my own beliefs....another day another forum lol

Gremlin

tallaghtmick wrote: »

i told her to do the usual,ask the spirit to leave that its frightening them all,advised to get a psychic in even went as far as telling her to use holy water......i renounced religion but have my own beliefs....another day another forum lol

Just one last bit of advice before I sign off on this threas, (and before anyone says so I'm not saying anything againsts psychics). It's just that the world of psychics can be fraught with danger and I don't think anyone would argue that there are a lot of unscrupulous people who would take advantage of your vulnerable friend. Before she lets anyone next or near her house, I would check them out thouroughly, a trip to the p&m forum would be helpful.

mcmoustache

tallaghtmick wrote: »

i told her to do the usual,ask the spirit to leave that its frightening them all,advised to get a psychic in even went as far as telling her to use holy water......i renounced religion but have my own beliefs....another day another forum lol

If this is happening in 3 separate places, perhaps the problem isn't external but is instead something internal.

Poltergeist activity has often been linked to early trauma and mental health or emotional issues.

Maybe dealing with any outstanding emotional issues with a counsellor or even a medium (i feel dirty advising a medium btw) would make the paranormal stuff stop. As a sceptic, i'd be of the opinion that indulging in the paranormal could allow someone to ignore internal problems.

lolo62

Hi Mick,

I believe some ghosts are psychokinetic or mind-over-matter..... it could be that if your friend is extremely psychic (and unhappy) she has unknowingly created a poltergeist

Others could be traumatic incidents that are replaying over and over complete with sights sounds and smells but with no conscious being involved...like a magnetic tape loop

Then some are conscious beings who have not realised they are dead and are just confused....or loved ones saying 'hi' but most of these would be friendly...

By the sound of what youve described and if all the action seems to be centered around your friend I would say it is the first.
I would recommend she sees a psychotherapist or counsellor to work through some of her emotional issues or this kind of thing will just continue to happen...trying to resolve this by bringing in psychics is not going to help her, if anything it will just make a circus out of her experience (although she may get some short term comfort)

I have a lot of psychic friends and the ones who successfully integrate their abilities into daily life as a gift rather than a curse are the ones who do a lot of work on themselves in this 3D reality and ground the energies rather than fly to the moon with them!

tallaghtmick

lolo62 wrote: »

Hi Mick,

I believe some ghosts are psychokinetic or mind-over-matter..... it could be that if your friend is extremely psychic (and unhappy) she has unknowingly created a poltergeist

Others could be traumatic incidents that are replaying over and over complete with sights sounds and smells but with no conscious being involved...like a magnetic tape loop

Then some are conscious beings who have not realised they are dead and are just confused....or loved ones saying 'hi' but most of these would be friendly...

By the sound of what youve described and if all the action seems to be centered around your friend I would say it is the first.
I would recommend she sees a psychotherapist or counsellor to work through some of her emotional issues or this kind of thing will just continue to happen...trying to resolve this by bringing in psychics is not going to help her, if anything it will just make a circus out of her experience (although she may get some short term comfort)

I have a lot of psychic friends and the ones who successfully integrate their abilities into daily life as a gift rather than a curse are the ones who do a lot of work on themselves in this 3D reality and ground the energies rather than fly to the moon with them!

sounds good although i dont think its my place to recommend a psychotherapist or counsellor as she can fly off the handle at small things lol.

lolo62

big time touchy subject alright! unfortunately what a person hears when any kind of therapy/counselling is sugested is 'theres something wrong with you'

i know theres a lot of shamans working these days who are also psychotherapists...a lot of healers seem to be qualifiying themselves in both western traditional and metaphysical methods so maybe something like that would be less daunting than being packed off to a 'shrink' so to speak...

my heart goes out to her though it sounds terrifying.

tallaghtmick

lolo62 wrote: »

big time touchy subject alright! unfortunately what a person hears when any kind of therapy/counselling is sugested is 'theres something wrong with you'

i know theres a lot of shamans working these days who are also psychotherapists...a lot of healers seem to be qualifiying themselves in both western traditional and metaphysical methods so maybe something like that would be less daunting than being packed off to a 'shrink' so to speak...

my heart goes out to her though it sounds terrifying.

ill tell her in a way trust me im good with words:D

squonk

OP that picture was so vague I could have made anything out of it. Would you not tell your friend to cop onto herself and get a grip?

KeithAFC

You would be surprised at how many believers would actually dismiss that photo and other photos like it. Iv seen many do that.

Fuzzy Clam

tallaghtmick wrote: »

she says shes seeing smoke around the house and general poltergeist activity.6 faces :pac: i need my eyes tested lol

She should cut out smoking the weed so......;)

dee12_7

When I first looked at that pic I instantly saw what looks like a pair of nostrils belonging to a dog or something inside the circle.That's just my observation anyway!

IrishAm

It looks like the cartoon character Skeeter outta Doug Funny.

Pink diamonds

I can definetly see a face in that picture, and my daughter seen it straight way too,also some people commenting on this if you've got nothing helpful to say keep your silly opinions to yourself, it gets boring...

tallaghtmick

Pink diamonds wrote: »

I can definetly see a face in that picture, and my daughter seen it straight way too,also some people commenting on this if you've got nothing helpful to say keep your silly opinions to yourself, it gets boring...

Most of us on the paranormal threads are used to the ridicule.

maccored

How is that photo paranormal related in any way whatsoever? Are you telling me you've told someone they have a ghost based on that photo??

ghosthunter73

maccored wrote: »

How is that photo paranormal related in any way whatsoever? Are you telling me you've told someone they have a ghost based on that photo??

As everyone knows I rarely see eye to eye with Maccored and we constructively butt heads but on this occasion I agree with this statement. There is no way anyone could claim anything from that picture. I am not going to get into depth about pictures and their validity as proof or anything like that but there is nothing in that picture.

tallaghtmick

tallaghtmick wrote: »

hey a friend took this pic and sent it to me because im a big believer in the paranormal,anyway she sent the pic and i asked was it her shadow reflecting and she said no that the shadow was there only after she took the photo,at night she says she can hear crying and things are being moved about,after i looked at the pic i can see a face i have it circled,.....also in before skeptics if you wanna dis the photo please start another thread in the skeptics corner :pac:

so what are your thoughts on it?

Quoting for people who don't read,so no I didnt say it was a spirit,she said it to me,can a mod lock this please im sick of it now!