Bridge from Ireland to America

cena

Well there ever be a bridge going from Ireland too the U.S. Is it even possible too have a long bridge like that.

charlemont

Ha, Thats priceless, There wont be a bridge built but eventually maybe a submerged tube with high speed trains connecting the E.U. and U.S.

Overheal

cena wrote: »

Well there ever be a bridge going from Ireland too the U.S. Is it even possible too have a long bridge like that.

Would you like a water?

Kojak

Why is the title too when it should be to?

Are both countries getting a bridge of their own?

bonerm

Sure, anythings possible. Tho not at the moment anyway. I'd imagine it'd be a tunnel or pipeline if they ever did construct such a thing tho rather than a bridge.

They're talking about building an elevator up to a geostationary orbital position in space (basically making things like rockets and shuttles obsolete) so digging a long hole in the ground would be relatively unimpressive by comparison.

jc84

A bridge to the uk and Europe would be more realistic and I can't see that ever happening

J. Marston

How long would it take to drive it?

The Scientician

J. Marston wrote: »

How long would it take to drive it?

Well it's about 3000 miles to the US from Ireland, so depending on your speed 40 hrs should do it.

bonerm

J. Marston wrote: »

How long would it take to drive it?

If you went on the fastest trains available today you could get from Galway to Boston in about 8-10 hours.

OPENROAD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_a46WJ1viA

cena

J. Marston wrote: »

How long would it take to drive it?

Good point. A tunnel does sound better with a high speed train

chucken1

Too it?

G_R

I doubt a bridge, but I'd say there will be a time (in the very distant future) when lack of fossil fuels means flying can't happen cheaply anymore, that there will be a tunnel from US to Mainland Europe, Via Ireland and the UK. So you could get a train from New York to Paris, stopping in Dublin and London.

I think it'd be pretty cool, but as I said, I doubt it'll happen for quite some time.

Kojak

cena wrote: »

Good point. A tunnel does sound better with a high speed train

The Dart or the Luas??

blockedPaT

I wonder how long it would take to make a bridge like that

ballsymchugh

get the chinese to do it. they're building high speed rail links all over asia to cement superpower status.

http://c1.gas2.org/files/2011/06/transrailchina.jpg

bonerm

blockedPaT wrote: »

I wonder how long it would take to make a bridge like that

Channel Tunnel took 6 years to tunnel 30 miles. The atlantic is about 100 times longer.

red menace

A tunnel with a maglev is the way to go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TTxT38sf_0

johnmcdnl

the longest bridge in the world right now is 164km long over in china... that's not even the distance from dublin to galway...

it's be some big ass bridge to span the entire Atlantic ocean and be able to withstand storms and all....

as for a tunnel... the longest rail tunnel is 154km long in japan.. once again - think of the scale of the Atlantic ocean...

how long would it take to build this tunnel or bridge as well... look how long it took to build the port tunnel.. and how much that cost as well...

this tunnel would be the new great wall of china


would be ****ing cool though :cool:


oh yeah - you'd need service stations and all underneath the ocean...

it'd be amazing to see if it ever happened :cool::cool::cool:

OPENROAD

Grand_Rajnah wrote: »

I doubt a bridge, but I'd say there will be a time (in the very distant future) when lack of fossil fuels means flying can't happen cheaply anymore, that there will be a tunnel from US to Mainland Europe, Via Ireland and the UK. So you could get a train from New York to Paris, stopping in Dublin and London.

I think it'd be pretty cool, but as I said, I doubt it'll happen for quite some time.

They might just skip Ireland though

retalivity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_tunnel

Kojak

red menace wrote: »

A tunnel with a maglev is the way to go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TTxT38sf_0

Would that be like the Springfield monorail, becuase that didn't work out too well if I remember correctly....

red menace

Kojak wrote: »

Would that be like the Springfield monorail, becuase that didn't work out too well if I remember correctly....

Yep it was supposed to glide as gently as a cloud

Spread

Extend the Red Line from Tallagh to Chatam, Cape Cod and then Route 6 to join the Highway. Deadly!;)

bonerm

Kojak wrote: »

Would that be like the Springfield monorail, becuase that didn't work out too well if I remember correctly....

They've got maglev rails in Emsland, Daejeon, and Southwest Jiaotong, and by gum, it put them on the map!

(thanks wiki)

Zillah

charlemont wrote: »

Ha, Thats priceless, There wont be a bridge built but eventually maybe a submerged tube with high speed trains connecting the E.U. and U.S.

This is correct. The highspeed transportation of the future will be supersonic trains inside vacuum sealed tubes. Vastly superior to air travel or something as primitive as a bridge.

filthymcnasty

Zillah wrote: »

This is correct. The highspeed transportation of the future will be supersonic trains inside vacuum sealed tubes. Vastly superior to air travel or something as primitive as a bridge.

As we cannot connect two short tram lines and are incapable of building a 10k metro, then no

Chuck Stone

I watched that supersonic underwater tunnel train programme on Discovery and I thought to myslef. LOL. No.

Now I consider myself an optomistic person and am usually very receptive to new stuff but the underwater supersonic train in a vacuum tunnel?

Niggapleeze.

ardinn

What: Submerged OCEANIC tunnel and supersonic train

WHERE: New York – London

Cost: $88 billion – $175 billion

Crux: Neutrally buoyant vacuum tunnel submerged 150 to 300 feet beneath the Atlantic's surface and anchored to the seafloor, through which zips a magnetically levitated train at up to 4,000 mph.

The idea is as wondrous as it is audacious: Get on a train at New York City's Penn Station and hit Paris, London or Brussels just an hour later. "From an engineering point of view there are no serious stumbling blocks," says Ernst Frankel, retired professor of ocean engineering at MIT.


As envisioned by Frankel and Frank Davidson, a former MIT researcher and early member of the first formal English Channel Tunnel study group, sections of neutrally buoyant tunnel submerged 150 to 300 feet beneath the surface of the Atlantic, then anchored to the seafloor–thereby avoiding the high pressures of the deep ocean. Then air would be pumped out, creating a vacuum, and alternating magnetic pulses would propel a magnetically levitated train capable of speeds up to 4,000 mph across the pond in an hour. As Frankel and Davidson say, it's doable. "We lay pipes and cables across the ocean every day," says Frankel. "The Norwegians recently investigated submerged, floating tunnels for crossing their deep fjords, and were only held back by the costs."

Ah, the costs: Estimates range from $25 million to $50 million per mile. Another hurdle: safety. But Davidson believes a test case might mitigate concerns. "Maybe a tunnel across Lake Ontario would show how it reacts to dynamic conditions and give us a better understanding of the costs," he muses. "A transatlantic tunnel will be done. We just have to be as interested in it as we are in getting to the Moon."

An hour?

Doc

Is it possible that it could be built? Yes

Will it ever be built? No

galwayrush

We're finding it impossible to build a bridge to cross the Corrib for a Galway by pass, and with the continental shift, America is drifting away from us by a few mm every year, it'll never happen.

Pherekydes

They opened the Dublin Port Tunnel with a road race. I presume they'll do the same for this? Just one-way, of course.

Bullseye1

Economically i just cannot see either a bridge or tunnel built transatlantic. There is more likely to be a new fuel source to replace fossil fuels. There may also be significant advancements in ship construction to reduce crossing times.

Pherekydes

galwayrush wrote: »

...and with the continental shift, America is drifting away from us by a few mm every year, it'll never happen.

It's ok, they can build bridges faster than that.

Joey the lips

when you factor in the time you forget a couple of important points

1, It assumes the journey would be non stop so it would have to be a train.

2. It would most likely be owned by a group of americans so dont try to land it in mayo.

3. If michael o leary has anything to do with it we will all be standing like we did on the famine ships.

Joe10000

red menace wrote: »

A tunnel with a maglev is the way to go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TTxT38sf_0

Wow that's quick

Angeles

would say not anytime soon, we simply don't have the technology to do that above or below sea.
Between the amount of earthquakes, currents, splitting of continents slowly and very large fish all battering the feck outta it, it would nearly have to be made of some biological stretchy impenetrable awesome stuff!

I think we'll actually have the ability to just teleport before that happens.

jester77

I wouldn't like to be working in the petrol stations on that bridge... could you imagine the daily commute!

Absurdum

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Fratton Fred

Monday: Galway to New York tunnel opens.
Tuesday: traffic jams reported stretching from Galway to Naas.
Wednesday: last person in Ireland turns off the light, locks the front door and pops the key under the mat.

Run_to_da_hills

bonerm wrote: »

If you went on the fastest trains available today you could get from Galway to Boston in about 8-10 hours.

It would want to be Maglev at that.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/transport/engines-equipment/maglev-train.htm

sbsquarepants

Angeles wrote: »

would say not anytime soon, we simply don't have the technology to do that above or below sea.
Between the amount of earthquakes, currents, splitting of continents slowly and very large fish all battering the feck outta it, it would nearly have to be made of some biological stretchy impenetrable awesome stuff!

I think we'll actually have the ability to just teleport before that happens.

I aint no tunnel expert, but i don't see the fish being a problem:)

Gunmonkey

OPENROAD wrote: »

They might just skip Ireland though

Probably for the best, the Americans would have the station in New York and the bridge across to here done, Britain would have the connection from the Channel Tunnel done and the connection to Dublin finished while they are still negotiating how to bypass it down to wherever the current Minister for Transports constituency is, and we have 4km dug as they all stand and stare into a hole for months at a time. :rolleyes:

ejmaztec

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I aint no tunnel expert, but i don't see the fish being a problem:)

What about the fundamentalist fish?

Opelfruit

cena wrote: »

Well there ever be a bridge going from Ireland too the U.S. Is it even possible too have a long bridge like that.

No! Another broken promise of Mary McAleese's presidency! Building bridges me bare backside!

JerryHandbag

Dingle to Newfoundland looks to be a viable route. Lets all start digging now and worry about other stuff later!

Lord Derpington

The fact that there is a continental rift on the way i would imagine would cause a world of problems.
One Quake and the whole Tunnel/Bridge would be in shit street

Absurdum

greenfly wrote: »

The fact that there is a continental rift on the way

we're all friends again, don't worry yourself

Spread

Forget the tunnel or bridge. What about a humungous shunter plane with lots of planes tied on behind like carriages. The shell of each of these would be one huge solar grid. The towed planes would then uncouple one by one over Nova Scotia and using solar power (collected during journey) for the first time on the trip fly/glide on to other airports in the Eastern half of the US. Basic idea of Banner Plane.

seanbmc

blockedPaT wrote: »

I wonder how long it would take to make a bridge like that

It took them long enough to build the port tunnel, can't imagine how long it would take them to build a bridge like that :pac:

Thomas828

greenfly wrote: »

The fact that there is a continental rift on the way i would imagine would cause a world of problems.
One Quake and the whole Tunnel/Bridge would be in shit street

I was going to go on a little dissertation about continental drift and tectonic plates, but you've summed it up nicely. The most feasible thing I can think of is a very long underwater tube. And even then, to get it to function properly with the vagaries of the movements of the said tectonic plates, it would require serious technological wizardry.