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Tenant not paying rent

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    #32
    dublincomment
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    You can if you are stuck move yourself or a member of your family back into your property for a period of time giving the tennant a months notice in writing to quit.


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    #33
    The_Conductor
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    dublincomment wrote: »
    You can if you are stuck move yourself or a member of your family back into your property for a period of time giving the tennant a months notice in writing to quit.

    You can give them notice to quit- it doesn't matter one iota......
    It can still take upwards of a year to actually get them out of the property, irrespective of whether you or a family member have somewhere else to live or not- and irrespective of whether they are paying rent or not........
    Too many people have discovered how to play the system for all its worth.......


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    #34
    Mr. Presentable
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Sit on the doorstep for a week. If she doesn't show up in that time, or answer the door you can break in on the presumption that either the occupant has left or is incapacitated inside. Also tell the postman not to deliver while you do this.

    Or, report a smell of gas from the premises to Bord Gais. As it is your house you'll have to provide entry for them.


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    #35
    ShadowHearth
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    Mr. Presentable wrote: »
    Sit on the doorstep for a week. If she doesn't show up in that time, or answer the door you can break in on the presumption that either the occupant has left or is incapacitated inside. Also tell the postman not to deliver while you do this.

    Or, report a smell of gas from the premises to Bord Gais. As it is your house you'll have to provide entry for them.

    i like that!


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    #36
    Mrs Garth Brooks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Mrs Garth Brooks


    I dont understand. It just takes a bit of budgeting to pay the rent. Lived of 150 a week during the year cause i had to. It included 75 on rent, 25 on bills, 20-30 on food. It can be done. Ok, no fancy clothes or drink but i'd rather have a roof over my head.
    If someone on the dole cant manage that and receiving rent allowance at the same time, feck them out of the place.


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    #37
    tishandy
    Registered Users Posts: 218 ✭✭tishandy


    Victor_M wrote: »
    Depending on the tenants circumstances and the type of welfare received they can get up to €1200 p/m RA

    http://www.inou.ie/download/pdf/max_rent_levels_county.pdf

    I got the figure of €400 from ~€200 Dole + €200* (800/4) which is very common in Dublin anyway as a rent allowance figure where the tenant doesn't have to make any contributions towards the rent.

    *Estimate as the op never stated what the actual figure was

    I stand corrected, my god I cannot believe some people are getting up to 1200 p/m! RA.


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    #38
    odds_on
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    dublincomment wrote: »
    You can if you are stuck move yourself or a member of your family back into your property for a period of time giving the tennant a months notice in writing to quit.

    Only applies to a Part 4 or a Periodic Tenancy NOT to a Fixed Term Tenancy.


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    #39
    Tea drinker
    Registered Users Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    aas wrote: »
    How each individual landlord wishes to conduct his 'business' of renting property is up to him (within the confines of whatever laws we have), I'm merely suggesting that the O.P. conduct his business with a bit less greed and a bit more understanding
    Ok, LL in Ireland can be quite unprofessional, and some are greedy, but I have had some excellent LL and would not really fault them at all now.
    We have no way of knowing which cataegory the LL is in here, but the tenant seems to be edging towards the dodgy category........
    Behaviour like this makes it hard for genuine people on RA, resulting in many LL not accepting it. Perhaps the tenant should behave with less greed and more understanding?


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    #40
    Johnny Favourite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 135 ✭✭Johnny Favourite


    aas wrote: »
    The tenant could be in severe financial difficulties and eviction could spell homelessness. Approach the situation with patience and compassion, it's likely that she needs the money far more than you do.



    OMG just OMG


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    #41
    Yawns
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    tishandy wrote: »
    I stand corrected, my god I cannot believe some people are getting up to 1200 p/m! RA.

    They're not. That guy posted an old rates list. The current one can be found here

    http://www.welfare.ie/EN/Schemes/SupplementaryWelfareAllowance/Pages/RentSupplement.aspx#Rates3

    The way it works is if you are renting and want to receive RA, then your rent cannot be higher than the amount listed for that area.

    EG if I had 3 kids and was getting rent allowance in Tallaght, my rent could not be higher than €1100 per month. I would have to pay part of that myself. Minimum of €24 so let's assume max rent allowance I can get is €1004 per month. That is max and no more. This is all worked off the current budget.


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    #42
    mh102
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    I agree wth the Joe Pesci method!


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    #43
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,280 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    mh102 wrote: »
    I agree wth the Joe Pesci method!

    Any suggestions of violence or intimidation of any nature, will result in a ban from this forum.

    Regards

    smccarrick


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    #44
    missmyler
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    Yawns wrote: »

    EG if I had 3 kids and was getting rent allowance in Tallaght, my rent could not be higher than €1100 per month. I would have to pay part of that myself. Minimum of €24 so let's assume max rent allowance I can get is €1004 per month. That is max and no more. This is all worked off the current budget.

    Still a hell of a lot of money to be getting for free!


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    #45
    Yawns
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    It most certainly is. The rent allowance being so high is of course what has rents in the area so high. If the rent allowance was to be reduced, you would see rents in the area falling too.


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    #46
    keysersoze0330
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    Any updates on this?


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    #47
    LittleBook
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    Ray Palmer wrote: »
    clarify with the HSE that payments are being made or not. The cheques should be in your name and if they are being cashed that is fraud and the gaurds will investigate that.

    So if the cheques are in the LLs name then either (a) she's not cashing them (but then what would be the point in with-holding them from the LL) or (b) she's cashing them and it's fraud, as you say, and all the consequences that that implies.

    Wouldn't a note in the letterbox saying "give me my cheques or I'm calling the gardai" be enough to get most tenants motivated?


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    #48
    cailinoBAC
    Registered Users Posts: 1,113 ✭✭✭cailinoBAC


    The cheques will not be in the LL’s name unless that has been agreed with the HSE.


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    #49
    BostonB
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    LittleBook wrote: »
    ...Wouldn't a note in the letterbox saying "give me my cheques or I'm calling the gardai" be enough to get most tenants motivated?

    Most know that's meaningless threat. Its got nothing to do with the Gardai


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    #50
    BostonB
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    cailinoBAC wrote: »
    The cheques will not be in the LL’s name unless that has been agreed with the HSE.

    Agreed with the tenant. The tenant has to set it up AFAIK.

    There was talk in the papers this week (which i can't find now) that they change it so it would bypass the tenant by default. To cut down miss-use and fraud of it. Pity its taken them so long to do this.


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