When was kayfabe broken in the Attitude Era?

drayme

Dancor wrote: »

Was this legit or storyline?

Kayfabe to promote the USWA vs ECW storyline and the eventual match between Dreamer and Lawler at Hardcore Heaven 97.

Connorzee

a bit like...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhSYRbNQ91c

2nd Row Donkey

^^^ Awesome.


Who was that at ringside around 01.55 .. is that teddy Long?

parker kent

I remember watching that Raw, that was my introduction to ECW. I remember Sabu diving off the Raw sign the week after. The start of a beautiful relationship between me and ECW :P

Charisteas

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

^^^ Awesome.


Who was that at ringside around 01.55 .. is that teddy Long?

That's Clarence Mason.

WWE.com did a 'Where Are They Now' interview with him here- http://www.wwe.com/superstars/wherearetheynow/clarencemason

Mart0

Kayfabe was absolutely obliterated when The New Ages Outlaws pushed Mick foley and Terry Funk off the stage in a dumpster.
It was supposedly a ploy to keep up with ECW and show that WWF is just as real as them and at the same time humanizing "Extreme wrestling", Showing what happens when someone is legitamtly thrown into a massively dangerous spot "In real life".
You could argue that it didn't break kayfabe at all since it was a work, But watch the video and tell me that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBrNmkRmEfc

Mart0

Also you could say that Owen's death broke kayfabe in a massive and unfortunate way when JR had to explain it wasn't part of a "Wrestling storyline or angle"

Charisteas

There was a famous Jim Ross quote from the attitude era, during a ladder or TLC match involving the Hardy Boyz, he says "How do you learn to fall from a 20 foot ladder?!" and that quote was used for a couple of years afterwards in promo videos.

Actually here's a video of Jim Ross breaking kayfabe several times -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDh8ZGpDAlg

drayme

Mart0 wrote: »

Kayfabe was absolutely obliterated when The New Ages Outlaws pushed Mick foley and Terry Funk off the stage in a dumpster.
It was supposedly a ploy to keep up with ECW and show that WWF is just as real as them and at the same time humanizing "Extreme wrestling", Showing what happens when someone is legitamtly thrown into a massively dangerous spot "In real life".
You could argue that it didn't break kayfabe at all since it was a work, But watch the video and tell me that.

Them running in at the end of the main event THE SAME NIGHT broke kayfabe. :pac:

SmarkAttack

Eire-Dearg

Vince needs to watch that video again.

Kess73

sky88 wrote: »

didnt vince call taker mark callaway once during the ministry of darkness feud

He did that a number of times. Face Vince did it to heel taker, and heel Vince also did it to face Taker.

He also called Kane Glen during one of the Brothers of Destruction team ups. Think it was about the time that Kane/Taker were feuding with heel versions of HHH and Austin.

Kess73

Think he also called a lot of the Ministry members by their real names before the corporation merged with the Ministry.

Hashtag_HEEL

SmarkAttack wrote: »

WOW! How far the mighty have fallen!

jaykhunter

Welcome to pw boards SmarkAttack! That video is a blast from the past. I didn't fully comprehend the video as a kid. I thought "yeah, i know! I've eyes don't I?" This is much better kind of kayfabe breaking, it's not necessarily part of the show, but it's a concession about the big direction change that'd been building for a good while

A Primal Nut

D-X broke kayfabe a lot in the beginning; such as showing the MSG incident on tv and rubbing it in Vince's face. Also, all the references from Shawn and others throughout blaming Vince for their problems, despite the fact that Vince wasn't announced yet WWF owner was sort of kayfabe-breaking. I think Jim Ross was the first to refer to Vince as owner in 1996.

A lot of the stuff between Shawn and Bret in the run up to Survivor Series 1997 referred to real-life tensions between them.