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Male circumcision...mutilation?

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  • 13-06-2011 10:03pm
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    Teddy_Picker
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    What are AH-ers thoughts on this? Is circumcision performed on young baby boys a harmless ritual, or cruel and detrimental to their wellbeing?
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    Silverfish
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,696 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    Nobody should have bits cut off unless

    a) They choose to or

    b) it's endangering their health.


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    #3
    flutterflye
    Registered Users Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    Medical reasons - Perfectly fine

    Otherwise - Completely unnecessary


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    #4
    craggles
    Registered Users Posts: 664 ✭✭✭craggles


    It's pointless mutilation, that's all there is to it.


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    pablomakaveli
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    Doing it to a newborn child that has no choice in the matter is very wrong. It's ok if an adult chooses to do it for medical/personal reasons.


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    kfallon
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    I preferred when TeddyTedson posted threads :( :pac:

    Where is that lovable runt btw???


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    Cill Dara Abu
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    Cruel and evil!


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    bnt
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    Head for this thread: 84 pages of debate to chew over. You won't get a serious answer on AH.

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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    starbelgrade
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    Uncircumcised kids run the risk of developing badly smelling knob cheese & never getting the ride.

    That's an undisputed medical fact.


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    [Deleted User]
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    I got it done when I was 8 due to medical reasons, I felt awkward going to the urinals for some time after.


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    pablomakaveli
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,752 ✭✭✭pablomakaveli


    bnt wrote: »
    Head for this thread: 84 pages of debate to chew over. You won't get a serious answer on AH.

    My answer was serious anyway.:(


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    Mike 1972
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    Unless medically necessary it is a basically a form of ritualistic mutilation which should be outlawed (for children) in any civilised country.
    starbelgrade wrote: »
    Uncircumcised kids run the risk of developing badly smelling knob cheese & never getting the ride.

    Until someone introduces them to the wonderous properties of water............


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    bnt
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    A better thread, also on tGC: just 6 pages and more on topic.

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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    Sanjuro
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    If it's down to a medical problem, then by all means, chop chop. But religious or aesthetic reasons (that the parents project onto the child... I dunno... I cant think of any other reason rather than religious), it should be up to the individual at a time they're fit to make the decision.

    Either way, it is not, in any way, mutilation.


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    policarp
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    They say it's the kindest cut...


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    cesc77
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    craggles wrote: »
    It's pointless mutilation, that's all there is to it.


    Ever worn a turtle neck sweater that was a wee bit too tight?

    If its tight,its tight.

    Some people are borne with mouths not tight enough


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    im invisible
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    harmless ritual, IMO


    nowhere near as bad as female genetal mutalation anyway


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    strobe
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    im invisible wrote: »
    harmless ritual, IMO
    harm/härm/
    Verb: Physically injure: "the villains didn't harm him".
    Noun: Physical injury, esp. that which is deliberately inflicted.

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    nowhere near as bad as female genetal mutalation anyway

    I don't think you will find anyone to disagree with you on that. Assault is nowhere near as bad as murder, either.


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    Chuck Stone
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    Adult-on-child GBH.

    Say what you see.


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    bnt
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    cesc77 wrote: »
    Ever worn a turtle neck sweater that was a wee bit too tight?
    I think it's fairly obvious that the OP was not talking about circumcision as a necessary medical procedure, or as a voluntary choice. The very word "mutilation" implies a lack of choice in the matter. Consenting adults already do far worse things to themselves e.g. don't look up "bifurcation", with "safe mode" off, if you want to sleep tonight.

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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    opinion guy
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    starbelgrade wrote: »
    Uncircumcised kids run the risk of developing badly smelling knob cheese & never getting the ride.

    That's an undisputed medical fact.

    There is this stuff called 'soap'. Google it


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    Biggins
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    Teddy_Picker wrote: »
    What are AH-ers thoughts on this? Is circumcision performed on young baby boys a harmless ritual, or cruel and detrimental to their wellbeing?
    Russell Crowe was right - he shouldn't have been made to apologise!


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    Squarewave
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    There is no excuse for putting a baby through a completely unnecessary surgical procedure tbh.


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    #24
    Badgermonkey
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    The Hitch gets animated on the subject.

    An odd cultural fetish in the US, indefensible imo.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZTS6iVpSPI


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    Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
    Registered Users Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    Its not much fun trying to go for a pee when your japseye scabs over after every time for days after


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    Biggins
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    Its daftness of the highest order.

    Nature has adapted us over many centuries to the way we are, for a reason.
    Then all of a sudden because some wackos decide we need to cut bits off us - and and natural progression was not good enough for millennia, we all should go and do it?

    Feck that!


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    Biggins
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    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Unless medically necessary it is a basically a form of ritualistic mutilation which should be outlawed (for children) in any civilised country.
    Sadly they won't
    1. Because the religious nuts have too much influence and sway with those in power.
    2. There would be further cries of 'intruding upon religious rights!'

    ...What about the rights of a child not to have his dick scalped for fcuks sake!

    Stupidity of the highest orders!


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    cesc77
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    Biggins wrote: »
    Its daftness of the highest order.

    Nature has adapted us over many centuries to the way we are, for a reason.
    Then all of a sudden because some wackos decide we need to cut bits off us - and and natural progression was not good enough for millennia, we all should go and do it?

    Feck that!


    Agreed,but some of us are not the perfect specimen when born and need a wee bit of help.

    This discussion can encompass many inhumanities but surely we are not focussing on the removal of a tiny amount of skin from a child.where it is necessary for the comfort and well being compared to a child who has had the procdeure for religious reasons?

    I disagree with genetic mutilation for religious reasons.

    To grow up in the western world with a circumsised penis is bloody hard.I think we are in the vast minority..less than 10%.So the trips to the pool and conversations with the lads earlier on in life and the ladies later on should not be underestimated.

    Mutilation of the genitalia in foreign countries is very scary but it is something that they may see as necessary and traditional nomatter how barbaric it truely is


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    Biggins
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    cesc77 wrote: »
    Agreed,but some of us are not the perfect specimen when born and need a wee bit of help...
    If that was the case, fair enough.
    Those with genuine problems can seek help if possible - but mass un-necessary scalping?
    Its pure daftness to me.


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    number10a
    Registered Users Posts: 1,062 ✭✭✭number10a


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I got it done when I was 8 due to medical reasons, I felt awkward going to the urinals for some time after.

    I had it done when I was 8 too for medical reasons!! We should set up a club!! :pac:


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    Biggins
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    number10a wrote: »
    I had it done when I was 8 too for medical reasons!! We should set up a club!! :pac:
    Call it "Cut And Run". :D


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