Male circumcision...mutilation?

Teddy_Picker

What are AH-ers thoughts on this? Is circumcision performed on young baby boys a harmless ritual, or cruel and detrimental to their wellbeing?

Silverfish

Nobody should have bits cut off unless

a) They choose to or

b) it's endangering their health.

flutterflye

Medical reasons - Perfectly fine

Otherwise - Completely unnecessary

craggles

It's pointless mutilation, that's all there is to it.

pablomakaveli

Doing it to a newborn child that has no choice in the matter is very wrong. It's ok if an adult chooses to do it for medical/personal reasons.

kfallon

I preferred when TeddyTedson posted threads :pac:

Where is that lovable runt btw???

Cill Dara Abu

Cruel and evil!

bnt

Head for this thread: 84 pages of debate to chew over. You won't get a serious answer on AH.

starbelgrade

Uncircumcised kids run the risk of developing badly smelling knob cheese & never getting the ride.

That's an undisputed medical fact.

I got it done when I was 8 due to medical reasons, I felt awkward going to the urinals for some time after.

pablomakaveli

bnt wrote: »

Head for this thread: 84 pages of debate to chew over. You won't get a serious answer on AH.

My answer was serious anyway.:(

Mike 1972

Unless medically necessary it is a basically a form of ritualistic mutilation which should be outlawed (for children) in any civilised country.

starbelgrade wrote: »

Uncircumcised kids run the risk of developing badly smelling knob cheese & never getting the ride.

Until someone introduces them to the wonderous properties of water............

bnt

A better thread, also on tGC: just 6 pages and more on topic.

Sanjuro

If it's down to a medical problem, then by all means, chop chop. But religious or aesthetic reasons (that the parents project onto the child... I dunno... I cant think of any other reason rather than religious), it should be up to the individual at a time they're fit to make the decision.

Either way, it is not, in any way, mutilation.

policarp

They say it's the kindest cut...

cesc77

craggles wrote: »

It's pointless mutilation, that's all there is to it.

Ever worn a turtle neck sweater that was a wee bit too tight?

If its tight,its tight.

Some people are borne with mouths not tight enough

im invisible

harmless ritual, IMO


nowhere near as bad as female genetal mutalation anyway

strobe

im invisible wrote: »

harmless ritual, IMO

harm/härm/
Verb: Physically injure: "the villains didn't harm him".
Noun: Physical injury, esp. that which is deliberately inflicted.

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nowhere near as bad as female genetal mutalation anyway

I don't think you will find anyone to disagree with you on that. Assault is nowhere near as bad as murder, either.

Chuck Stone

Adult-on-child GBH.

Say what you see.

bnt

cesc77 wrote: »

Ever worn a turtle neck sweater that was a wee bit too tight?

I think it's fairly obvious that the OP was not talking about circumcision as a necessary medical procedure, or as a voluntary choice. The very word "mutilation" implies a lack of choice in the matter. Consenting adults already do far worse things to themselves e.g. don't look up "bifurcation", with "safe mode" off, if you want to sleep tonight.

opinion guy

starbelgrade wrote: »

Uncircumcised kids run the risk of developing badly smelling knob cheese & never getting the ride.

That's an undisputed medical fact.

There is this stuff called 'soap'. Google it

Biggins

Teddy_Picker wrote: »

What are AH-ers thoughts on this? Is circumcision performed on young baby boys a harmless ritual, or cruel and detrimental to their wellbeing?

Russell Crowe was right - he shouldn't have been made to apologise!

Squarewave

There is no excuse for putting a baby through a completely unnecessary surgical procedure tbh.

Badgermonkey

The Hitch gets animated on the subject.

An odd cultural fetish in the US, indefensible imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZTS6iVpSPI

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Its not much fun trying to go for a pee when your japseye scabs over after every time for days after

Biggins

Its daftness of the highest order.

Nature has adapted us over many centuries to the way we are, for a reason.
Then all of a sudden because some wackos decide we need to cut bits off us - and and natural progression was not good enough for millennia, we all should go and do it?

Feck that!

Biggins

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Unless medically necessary it is a basically a form of ritualistic mutilation which should be outlawed (for children) in any civilised country.

Sadly they won't
1. Because the religious nuts have too much influence and sway with those in power.
2. There would be further cries of 'intruding upon religious rights!'

...What about the rights of a child not to have his dick scalped for fcuks sake!

Stupidity of the highest orders!

cesc77

Biggins wrote: »

Its daftness of the highest order.

Nature has adapted us over many centuries to the way we are, for a reason.
Then all of a sudden because some wackos decide we need to cut bits off us - and and natural progression was not good enough for millennia, we all should go and do it?

Feck that!

Agreed,but some of us are not the perfect specimen when born and need a wee bit of help.

This discussion can encompass many inhumanities but surely we are not focussing on the removal of a tiny amount of skin from a child.where it is necessary for the comfort and well being compared to a child who has had the procdeure for religious reasons?

I disagree with genetic mutilation for religious reasons.

To grow up in the western world with a circumsised penis is bloody hard.I think we are in the vast minority..less than 10%.So the trips to the pool and conversations with the lads earlier on in life and the ladies later on should not be underestimated.

Mutilation of the genitalia in foreign countries is very scary but it is something that they may see as necessary and traditional nomatter how barbaric it truely is

Biggins

cesc77 wrote: »

Agreed,but some of us are not the perfect specimen when born and need a wee bit of help...

If that was the case, fair enough.
Those with genuine problems can seek help if possible - but mass un-necessary scalping?
Its pure daftness to me.

number10a

Deleted User wrote: »

I got it done when I was 8 due to medical reasons, I felt awkward going to the urinals for some time after.

I had it done when I was 8 too for medical reasons!! We should set up a club!! :pac:

Biggins

number10a wrote: »

I had it done when I was 8 too for medical reasons!! We should set up a club!! :pac:

Call it "Cut And Run".

cesc77

number10a wrote: »

I had it done when I was 8 too for medical reasons!! We should set up a club!! :pac:

The scalped heads society.Im in.

pulls back........:pac: Yeah,Im in

Capt'n Midnight

Anything that reduces sensitivity is not good.
When your nails get cut too far back or break the skin beneath is very sensitive, imagine not being to be able to feel that sort of sensation in other areas.

I don't know how wiminz can get boob jobs that involve cutting nerves to the nipple.

And female gential mutulation is barbaric and has nothing to do with religion.

unbeat

starbelgrade wrote: »

Uncircumcised kids run the risk of developing badly smelling knob cheese & never getting the ride.

That's an undisputed medical fact.

if youre the kind of person who wipes your ass or showers then this wont ever happen. chopee's run the risk of getting stuff in their jap eye.

look, a blade and a penis should never be combined it can only end in tears.

cesc77

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Anything that reduces sensitivity is not good.

Disagree.Sex tends to last longer.:)

Jealous Capt Mid

cesc77

unbeat wrote: »

if youre the kind of person who wipes your ass or showers then this wont ever happen. chopee's run the risk of getting stuff in their jap eye.

look, a blade and a penis should never be combined it can only end in tears.

?????

chopees?????

education,education,education

digme

starbelgrade wrote: »

Uncircumcised kids run the risk of developing badly smelling knob cheese & never getting the ride.

That's an undisputed medical fact.

if you're a jew it is a fact, sorry you got your dick mutilated

Chuck Stone

digme wrote: »

if you're a jew it is a fact, sorry you got your dick mutilated

Muslims too.

Capt'n Midnight

cesc77 wrote: »

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

Anything that reduces sensitivity is not good.

Disagree.Sex tends to last longer.:)

Jealous Capt Mid

But is it as much fun ?

also it's easier to desensitivise

ScumLord

cesc77 wrote: »

Ever worn a turtle neck sweater tha..

No.

Wibbs

It seems the god of the Jews and Muslms is a Microsoft god. He requires updates because of his bad design out of the box...

Adult actual medical reason? Cool. Even adult fetish/fashion/personal need? Cool, if odd. Chopping off of newborns flesh? Daft, backward and retarded. The first two involve choice, the last does not. Choice is the thing. One can get sidetracked and bogged down by the comparisons to female genital mutilation, but one thing is most certainly common between them. Removal of choice. Actually other things are common between them; religious duty(daft right there), "my father/mother had it done", it's "cleaner", it reduces sexual tension, it's more attractive to future partners, "ah sure nothing of import is removed". read up on FGM and though a greater insult to the person the justifications are remarkably similar. Which should tell you all you need to know.

digme

Wibbs wrote: »

It seems the god of the Jews and Muslms is a Microsoft god. He requires updates because of his bad design out of the box...

Adult actual medical reason? Cool. Even adult fetish/fashion/personal need? Cool, if odd. Chopping off of newborns flesh? Daft, backward and retarded. The first two involve choice, the last does not. Choice is the thing. One can get sidetracked and bogged down by the comparisons to female genital mutilation, but one thing is most certainly common between them. Removal of choice. Actually other things are common between them; religious duty(daft right there), "my father/mother had it done", it's "cleaner", it reduces sexual tension, it's more attractive to future partners, "ah sure nothing of import is removed". read up on FGM and though a greater insult to the person the justifications are remarkably similar. Which should tell you all you need to know.

they're fanatical lunatics,they should held responsible for child abuse.

swordofislam

Two benefits less long term dribble risk (light trousers are safer).
Can't get it caught in my zip.

It should now be possible to quantify the impact of circumcision on sexual pleasure. Get 2 couples to **** in an MRI and track the pleasure centres of the brain lighting up in each of the male partners.

Agonist

What's a little snip to a baby is the loss of an extraordinary amount of flesh when he becomes a man. Someone can look up the square inches of foreskin for me - I'm on a mobile.

In short, it's barbaric.

swordofislam

Wibbs wrote: »

It seems the god of the Jews and Muslms is a Microsoft god. He requires updates because of his bad design out of the box...

Ubuntu downloads updates every bloody time I turn on my computer! If the God of the Muslims is Microsoft Windows the God of the Christians is BeOS!!!

unbeat

cesc77 wrote: »

?????

chopees?????

education,education,education

well dont take it out on me. it was the doctor what did it. innit.

Agonist

http://www.circumstitions.com/Notjustaflap.html

I looked it up and it's 15 square inches. That's a lot of nerve endings and a lot of lovely slipping and sliding during sex and masturbation.

pragmatic1

Had it done when I was 8 for medical reasons and it stung like hell after. I cant imagine how painful it must be for a baby, who cant get anesthetic and whos nervous system is super sensitive.

Dudess

im invisible wrote: »

harmless ritual, IMO

For a baby?

nowhere near as bad as female genetal mutalation anyway

So what?

CrazyRabbit

You know the pro-circumcision lobby is getting desperate when they start quoting studies showing a decreased chance of HIV infection for circumcised males. Pftt...as if that was important in any way. Even if it reduced the risk by 50%, it still doesn't change the need for safe sex in any way.

If an adult wishes it, then that's their choice. A baby/child cannot consent, so it should not be allowed. Of course, if there is a medical need...

Dangerous Man

Unless it's done for genuine medical reasons it's assault and those that do it / accommodate it should be arrested and charged.