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* Business HL - Predictions / discussion / aftermath * (One thread only please)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭Mysteriouschic


    I think I did okay in the exam. I state explain example for most answers then added the evaluation on some of them. For the long question were you meant to provide your own example? I don't think I put in examples?
    I would have done better if I had a proper business teacher my teacher just read the book to us and didn't go through the exam papers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 JReilly


    I think I did okay in the exam. I state explain example for most answers then added the evaluation on some of them. For the long question were you meant to provide your own example? I don't think I put in examples?

    Questions that had "Illustrate" in it required at least one example. If you don't have any then you might lose a few marks but nothing too serious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭AnneElizabeth


    Don't remember seeing any except the short q on meetings.. Surprised there was no letter or report!

    No accounting question either! They left out loads of the course, more than usual I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 fred09


    JReilly wrote: »
    Questions that had "Illustrate" in it required at least one example. If you don't have any then you might lose a few marks but nothing too serious.

    was happy with the paper,messed up non legislative disputes but happy with everything else.....pretty fair......i timed it well but rushed it towards the end but 3 hours isnt enough.....3 hours 20 would be much better so you can get ur head around the questions
    btw,illustrate means example and normally a diagram aka draw the maslow hierarchy of needs but its not needed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27 nanor92


    AdamD wrote: »
    Its not a test of that though, unless you write incredibly slowly, or have to think for ages before you begin your answer, you should be able to finish that exam.

    It is for me, and pretty much all my class said the same and there's quite a few people on here who said they struggled with time. Technically I did finish the paper but it wasn't as good as it could have been. I dunno maybe I'm just being a bit of c*nt about it!:o but I think that if a lot of people are having difficulty with time then it should be taken into consideration.

    After all it's business we're being tested on.

    Rant over.:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 fitz1011


    Do you really have to use bulletpoints i did it for some Q's but when i was rushing i didnt bother will i lose marks??frown.gif


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 daex


    as far as business goes, that was a dream! :)
    I think I might've messed up the last question because of rushing,but other than that there was only a part of a question I couldn't answer.
    delighted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭SDTimeout


    Question 4 was amazing.

    Never thought i would do a question 1 in my life but it was far nicer than my usual questions 2 and 3.

    ABQ was nice, wasn't sure on marking of HR manager 5x6 OR 6x5 so did 7 points to cover me regardless is ones not correct.

    Did 1,3,4,5 and 6.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14 daex


    fitz1011 wrote: »
    Do you really have to use bulletpoints i did it for some Q's but when i was rushing i didnt bother will i lose marks??frown.gif


    think the correcters prefer it because it's much easier to correct because of the marking scheme.plus they're more likely to go through it and try give you if you're one percent of the next grade.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭sarah.


    I found one of the questions in the ABQ difficult when it asked to evaluate cos usually they're looking for disadvantages there but I couldn't pick out any?! :\ And I did Maslow right but I forget to ****ing name the theory!! They're only two things I've realised but there could be a million more...ahh :( Timing was fairly perfect for me thank God.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭SDTimeout


    You don't have to make bullet points, but anything to help your examiner. Today i did my ABQ quotes from the text in red. I did A B C parts on different pages and if i went one line into it explaining a b part i still took a new page for a C.
    I've also only been writing on the right hand side of the page. So skipping every left page due to my pen. Really took it's told in Business and when i was getting more paper i just said save yourself the hassle and leave 4 extras

    The idea of bullet points is that it is laid out like.
    • Point 1 - STATED. EXPLAIN. RELATED.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39 Steve!


    Well I wrote like a lunatic and still didn't finish it. The superintendent said I was going like the clappers.

    I did not like the question on the unemployment though. It was a bit too vague, like they were trying to shoehorn something topical into it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 obamaosama


    SD Timeout you did 5 long questions now theres a fast writer??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭AnneElizabeth


    No accounting question either! They left out loads of the course, more than usual I think.

    OMG!! I just realised I missed the last question! I was wondering why everyone was taking about Break-Even Charts! That was my best question!
    Did anyone else miss the last question?! There was a big gap after Q6 so I assumed that was it. In the stress of the exam I didn't think that there was meant to be 7 questions :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭flyaway.


    OMG!! I just realised I missed the last question! I was wondering why everyone was taking about Break-Even Charts! That was my best question!
    Did anyone else miss the last question?! There was a big gap after Q6 so I assumed that was it. In the stress of the exam I didn't think that there was meant to be 7 questions :(

    Ha, yeah, I missed it too. Literally didn't see it until about 30 seconds before I handed my paper up! I don't know, I just never thought about there being one over the page and I was rushing and yeah. :confused:

    Oh well, can't do anything about it now!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭AnneElizabeth


    flyaway. wrote: »
    Ha, yeah, I missed it too. Literally didn't see it until about 30 seconds before I handed my paper up! I don't know, I just never thought about there being one over the page and I was rushing and yeah. :confused:

    Oh well, can't do anything about it now!

    They should've made it a bit clearer though.. I had to choose a bad question because I didn't see it. I know I could've gotten full marks on it too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭Mysteriouschic


    I really hoped a question on net profit , gross profit , acid test ratio or a cash flow would come up.
    I learnt off all the formulas today for it. I didn't know how to do the one that came up in the short questions. Never practised them as I didn't know how an my teacher wasn't much help didn't explain a thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Dan1001


    They should've made it a bit clearer though.. I had to choose a bad question because I didn't see it. I know I could've gotten full marks on it too!

    There's always been 7 long questions in the Business paper..they can't really make it much clearer..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 846 ✭✭✭TheFullDuck


    They should've made it a bit clearer though.. I had to choose a bad question because I didn't see it. I know I could've gotten full marks on it too!

    I'm not being a pr*ck or anything but you cant blame the SEC for you missing a question, most people have been doing exam papers for 6 months at the least, people should be well aware there are 7 questions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭danoboy254


    sarah. wrote: »
    And I did Maslow right but I forget to ****ing name the theory!! They're only two things I've realised but there could be a million more...ahh :(

    what do you mean by naming the theory? was it not given in the question?
    OMG!! I just realised I missed the last question! I was wondering why everyone was taking about Break-Even Charts! That was my best question!
    Did anyone else miss the last question?! There was a big gap after Q6 so I assumed that was it. In the stress of the exam I didn't think that there was meant to be 7 questions :(

    Yup missed the last question.
    I came out and screamed about the theory-ness of the paper and everyone was like - THERE WAS ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE BACK! lmfao!

    I just finished it in time and we got like 5mins extra.

    can anyone say they got these for the short questions (they were so long and confusing for short questions i think) bluff nearly everyone of them!

    ROCE ; 29.5%
    True,false,false,true,true
    20bn (surplus) and 15bn (surplus)

    and when they asked for a "common" general meeting does that mean an EGM "extraordinary" general meeting was wrong. i copped that but still put down EGM. :confused:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Gercakeage


    I didn't name the theory either?! :rolleyes:
    Seen as it was given in the question i didnt .. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭AnneElizabeth


    Dan1001 wrote: »
    There's always been 7 long questions in the Business paper..they can't really make it much clearer..

    They can, it's different when you're actually doing the exam - you're under stress and there is barely time to think - you have to choose your questions as fast as possible. There was a big gap at the end of Q6 and no "PTO for last question". Lots of people made the mistake even though they were familiar with the papers. It should be user-friendly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 JReilly


    danoboy254 wrote: »
    what do you mean by naming the theory? was it not given in the question?



    Yup missed the last question.
    I came out and screamed about the theory-ness of the paper and everyone was like - THERE WAS ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE BACK! lmfao!

    I just finished it in time and we got like 5mins extra.

    can anyone say they got these for the short questions (they were so long and confusing for short questions i think) bluff nearly everyone of them!

    ROCE ; 29.5%
    True,false,false,true,true
    20bn (surplus) and 15bn (surplus)

    and when they asked for a "common" general meeting does that mean an EGM "extraordinary" general meeting was wrong. i copped that but still put down EGM. :confused:

    EGM should be right. I put that down alongside AGM.

    Crap, I missed the 7th question too. :/ What was it about?


  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭danoboy254


    JReilly wrote: »
    EGM should be right. I put that down alongside AGM.

    thanks - how about those numerical answers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭GerardB


    sarah. wrote: »
    I found one of the questions in the ABQ difficult when it asked to evaluate cos usually they're looking for disadvantages there but I couldn't pick out any?! :\

    usually whatever you have to evaluate has disadvantages in the ABQ, but the HRM in the one today was pretty close to a perfect HRM. evaluate means give your opinion on it. i just went through functions of HRM's (recruitment and selection, performance appraisal, manpower planning etc.) gave examples from the ABQ and then said what i thought of it and why


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,020 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    danoboy254 wrote: »
    what do you mean by naming the theory? was it not given in the question?



    Yup missed the last question.
    I came out and screamed about the theory-ness of the paper and everyone was like - THERE WAS ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE BACK! lmfao!

    I just finished it in time and we got like 5mins extra.

    can anyone say they got these for the short questions (they were so long and confusing for short questions i think) bluff nearly everyone of them!

    ROCE ; 29.5%
    True,false,false,true,true
    20bn (surplus) and 15bn (surplus)

    and when they asked for a "common" general meeting does that mean an EGM "extraordinary" general meeting was wrong. i copped that but still put down EGM. :confused:

    Yeah I got those answers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 JReilly


    danoboy254 wrote: »
    thanks - how about those numerical answers?

    Which numerical question?

    Also did anyone here do the Long Q7, and if so what was on it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,752 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    danoboy254 wrote: »
    what do you mean by naming the theory? was it not given in the question?





    True,false,false,true,true


    I think those are wrong. I got True, False, True, True, False. Just looked on examinations.ie and am pretty happy with my answers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 846 ✭✭✭TheFullDuck


    danoboy254 wrote: »
    True,false,false,true,true
    20bn (surplus) and 15bn (surplus)

    and when they asked for a "common" general meeting does that mean an EGM "extraordinary" general meeting was wrong. i copped that but still put down EGM. :confused:

    I said false for the last one, you could argue that with an increase in strength of the euro, americans will buy less which is bad for the irish exporters! It will be interesting to see how they mark that one.

    For the two meetings I said AGM and EGM?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 JReilly


    AdamD wrote: »
    I think those are wrong. I got True, False, True, True, False. Just looked on examinations.ie and am pretty happy with my answers.

    I got the same, except the last one for me was true. :/


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  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭danoboy254


    right so - thanks people

    a parting word - BEST ABQ EVER - it could have been so much worse!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,752 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    JReilly wrote: »
    I got the same, except the last one for me was true. :/

    Most definitively false. It would make exports more expensive for people in the US to buy from us.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 5,020 Mod ✭✭✭✭GoldFour4


    aw here, i cant remember what half my answers were.

    Did anyone else find it impossible to fit the short questions into the space provided??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,752 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    Yeah was really annoying having to write so small and still not getting everything in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,391 ✭✭✭Mysteriouschic


    Did you have to say that there was disadvantages in the ABQ. I pretty much gave my opinion saying it was a good thing what they were doing. Didn't see any disadvantages in the ABQ , an gave my opinion as to why I thought it was good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad


    JReilly wrote: »
    Which numerical question?

    Also did anyone here do the Long Q7, and if so what was on it?

    a Discuss two possible challenges facing a new business 10 marks

    b i) Draw and label a diagram of the product lifecycle.

    ii) Explain how a business could extend it 25 marks

    c) Break even chart 25 marks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,851 ✭✭✭Mountainlad


    Did you have to say that there was disadvantages in the ABQ. I pretty much gave my opinion saying it was a good thing what they were doing. Didn't see any disadvantages in the ABQ , an gave my opinion as to why I thought it was good.

    An evaluation is entirely your opinion. As long as you back it up substantially, you'll get your marks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 PoisonIvy


    AdamD wrote: »
    Most definitively false. It would make exports more expensive for people in the US to buy from us.
    Yeah, yours are definitely right, I checked with my business teacher after the exam...

    Also, I know this is so stupid but in my haste to do my questions, I didnt even realise I hadnt seen a question 7.. BECs are my best topic and I knew both the other q's aswell... soo annoyed at my stupidity!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,752 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    I wouldn't be too annoyed, breakeven chart was only 20 marks and questions 4/5/6 were all fine too.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 PoisonIvy


    flyaway. wrote: »
    Ha, yeah, I missed it too. Literally didn't see it until about 30 seconds before I handed my paper up! I don't know, I just never thought about there being one over the page and I was rushing and yeah. :confused:

    Oh well, can't do anything about it now!

    Oops guys sorry didnt see these before!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 xxCookiexx


    :(I was just wondering:
    under the pressure of the exam i totally messed up my break even formula on question 7. But i continued on (I got 20000 units btw, which i know to be wrong!) and drew my break even chart. I labeled the correct lines and marked in everything, bep, margin of safety etc.
    Please can anyone tell me, even though I got the answers wrong, is business like maths where they still reward you if you know how to construct it?

    is it all or nothing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭SDTimeout


    obamaosama wrote: »
    SD Timeout you did 5 long questions now theres a fast writer??

    I know i did, I'm a very fast writer / a lot of the things that came up i knew very very well so it was quick to get them down onto the page.Question 4 took me about 15 minutes so i made up the time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 700 ✭✭✭nommm


    I'm surprised by the questions I ended up doing. I usually avoid q.1 and do q.2 and 3 instead but today I did 1 and 3.

    Loved the ABQ, I usually struggle to find the links but they were obvious today!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,342 ✭✭✭dunworth1


    after reading some of the replies i'm worried i didnt write enough i see some people did 20+ pages.

    i only went about 3/4 of the way through the answer book.

    i didnt see the point in writing be long answers i just went straight to the point
    with some questions taking up only about 15-20 lines.

    my teacher always said it better to just write the point instead of filling it up with useless crap.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18 JReilly


    dunworth1 wrote: »
    after reading some of the replies i'm worried i didnt write enough i see some people did 20+ pages.

    i only went about 3/4 of the way through the answer book.

    i didnt see the point in writing be long answers i just went straight to the point
    with some questions taking up only about 15-20 lines.

    my teacher always said it better to just write the point instead of filling it up with useless crap.

    It depends. 20 mark questions generally require at least page of info, while 30 markers require at least a page and a half. So considering the 4 questions and the ABQ you should have banked around 20 pages or so.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 452 ✭✭Bloc Party!


    JReilly wrote: »
    It depends. 20 mark questions generally require at least page of info, while 30 markers require at least a page and a half. So considering the 4 questions and the ABQ you should have banked around 20 pages or so.

    Doesnt matter how many pages you write as long as you get the points in..if its 20 marks its usually 4 points at 5 marks each..so as long as you get the point in eg performance apprasial- explanation..2 marks for naming the point and 3 marks for the explanation..thats the way we were always taught


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 fred09


    Doesnt matter how many pages you write as long as you get the points in..if its 20 marks its usually 4 points at 5 marks each..so as long as you get the point in eg performance apprasial- explanation...2 marks for naming the point and 3 marks for the explanation..thats the way we were always taught
    2 things, length doesn't mean much at all,i wrote a lot myself but when i write fast my writing gets a lot bigger but i did include as much info as possible.....once your points are there and explained you will get marks....the same thing for geography.
    And to everyone that didnt see question 7, i have no compassion/remourse etc......youve all had 2 years to look at exam papers and realise that there has ALWAYS been 7 questions.Until a new course comes in, there will ALWAYS be 7 questions......pressure of the exam means nothing......just turn the page really.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 99 ✭✭sarah.


    danoboy254 wrote: »
    what do you mean by naming the theory? was it not given in the question?

    Ya, well I'm really nit-picking and I don't remember the specific questions very well but I probably should have mentioned 'the Hierarchy of Needs'. That said maybe that was in the question also, my memory is pretty awful!


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