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Cheating.. *See Mod Note in Post 112*

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    #32
    unknowntoown
    Closed Accounts Posts: 65 ✭✭unknowntoown


    RMD wrote: »
    Oh how hard you are. Spend more time learning and less being an ignorant gobshíte, maybe you wont need to cheat then.

    Hes right though .... if some little..... kicked my bag which had my phone in it id go mad, wheather i was attempting to cheat or not.

    back on topic
    a phone went off in mine today, person got kicked out for the remainder of the exam, only about 30 mins left, my examminer is of gay genetics


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    #33
    polka dot
    Registered Users Posts: 204 ✭✭polka dot


    This isn't in my school but my best friend is attending in another school and told me.

    Honours maths, paper 1, last Friday.

    This girl ran in literally at the last minute because she got stuck in traffic (tractors guys, they're everywhere) kept her phone (off) in her pocket and sat down to do the exam. 20 minutes in, the supervisor spots the phone-shape in her pocket and immediately cancels the exam. Didn't matter that it was off, nothing. So yep, pretty damn observant!

    The girl got an apology from the supervisor at the end and was told that the exam still had to stay cancelled.


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    #34
    RMD
    Registered Users Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    unknowntoown wrote: »
    Hes right though .... if some little..... kicked my bag which had my phone in it id go mad, wheather i was attempting to cheat or not.

    The only reason the bag was kicked was because the person was cheating. If the person wasn't a lazy bollox it wouldn't have happened and the bag wouldn't have been touched.

    Don't cheat and your bag wont be kicked, problem solved.


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    #35
    Platinum2010
    Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    Call me a snitch if you want but I have no real respect for cheaters.

    Fair enough if someone has cheated in their exams and does better than me come august I'll be truly gutted but at least If I get college offers I'll feel that I'll have earned them rather than robbed a deserving person of their place ....


    thats just me though I guess


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    #36
    paulmclaughlin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭paulmclaughlin


    RMD wrote: »
    Oh how hard you are. Spend more time learning and less being an ignorant gobshíte, maybe you wont need to cheat then.

    I'm not cheating, I just don't think it's right to get someone's test cancelled and ruin a year of their life.


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    #37
    lovelabel
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭lovelabel


    Platinum2010 wrote: »
    Call me a snitch if you want but I have no real respect for cheaters.

    Fair enough if someone has cheated in their exams and does better than me come august I'll be truly gutted but at least If I get college offers I'll feel that I'll have earned them rather than robbed a deserving person of their place ....


    thats just me though I guess

    Totally agree, exactly my view aswell. No time or respect for cheaters


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    #38
    paulmclaughlin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭paulmclaughlin


    Platinum2010 wrote: »
    Call me a snitch if you want but I have no real respect for cheaters.

    Fair enough if someone has cheated in their exams and does better than me come august I'll be truly gutted but at least If I get college offers I'll feel that I'll have earned them rather than robbed a deserving person of their place ....

    While I agree, many who do the Leaving Cert do not go on to college but just need it to fill in their CV?


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    #39
    J_E
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    paulmclaughlin wrote: »
    I'm not cheating, I just don't think it's right to get someone's test cancelled and ruin a year of their life.
    Their rules, not yours. It's easy to follow them, and if you don't like them, don't do the exams. Simple as.


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    #40
    lovelabel
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭lovelabel


    paulmclaughlin wrote: »
    While I agree, many who do the Leaving Cert do not go on to college but just need it to fill in their CV?

    Still no excuse to cheat and get someone elses grade possibly


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    #41
    zuroph
    Registered Users Posts: 11,097 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    paulmclaughlin wrote: »
    I'm not cheating, I just don't think it's right to get someone's test cancelled and ruin a year of their life.

    his job is to report it. he didnt get the exam cancelled, the cheater did. he didnt even report it, he just stopped the person from cheating.


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    #42
    Framble
    Closed Accounts Posts: 86 ✭✭Framble


    I was a supervisor in TY and I brought this guy to the bathroom and when he came out as a joke I said "Were you cheating?" and he was like "Oh my god how did you know?" And I was like "what?" and he was like "what?"... he was a bad cheater. And it was for religion!


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    #43
    Platinum2010
    Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    paulmclaughlin wrote: »
    While I agree, many who do the Leaving Cert do not go on to college but just need it to fill in their CV?

    Yeah But technically you shouldnt deserve to put it on your CV because it's not through your own hard work you achieved it .
    Why not put down *cheated on Leaving cert and got away with it* I wonder will you still be appealing to employ rather than the 14% of the country who are unemployed and didnt cheat?


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    #44
    JamJamJamJam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭JamJamJamJam


    polka dot wrote: »
    This isn't in my school but my best friend is attending in another school and told me.

    Honours maths, paper 1, last Friday.

    This girl ran in literally at the last minute because she got stuck in traffic (tractors guys, they're everywhere) kept her phone (off) in her pocket and sat down to do the exam. 20 minutes in, the supervisor spots the phone-shape in her pocket and immediately cancels the exam. Didn't matter that it was off, nothing. So yep, pretty damn observant!

    The girl got an apology from the supervisor at the end and was told that the exam still had to stay cancelled.

    I'd flip! :-o


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    #45
    lovelabel
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭lovelabel


    IMO it cant be justified and the cheater should not be allowed to get away with it and dishonestly receive a good result because they broke the rules whereas another student who puts in the work may be deprived as a result


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    #46
    Just Like Heaven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,132 ✭✭✭Just Like Heaven


    paulmclaughlin wrote: »
    I just don't think it's right to get someone's test cancelled and ruin a year of their life.

    It is completely fair if the person is cheating. The consequences are made very clear if you are caught.


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    #47
    Fbjm
    Registered Users Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭Fbjm


    Our examiner says a ten minute prayer before every exam, making us late! He hadn't a notion where he is either half the time...


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    #48
    paulmclaughlin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭paulmclaughlin


    Platinum2010 wrote: »
    Yeah But technically you shouldnt deserve to put it on your CV because it's not through your own hard work you achieved it .
    Why not put down *cheated on Leaving cert and got away with it* I wonder will you still be appealing to employ rather than the 14% of the country who are unemployed and didnt cheat?

    But many employers see the Leaving Cert as the bare minimum when it might not even apply to the job the person is applying for? Yet that's one of the main deciding factors. Even if someone is say, not mathematically smart, they should be judged on this when it won't apply?


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    #49
    mpdg
    Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭mpdg


    Fbjm wrote: »
    Our examiner says a ten minute prayer before every exam, making us late! He hadn't a notion where he is either half the time...
    That's ridiculous. Have you complained to your principal? If I were in your exam hall before one of the time-pressed exams, I wouldn't have been happy.


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    #50
    paulmclaughlin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭paulmclaughlin


    mpdg wrote: »
    That's ridiculous. Have you complained to your principal? If I were in your exam hall before one of the time-pressed exams, I wouldn't have been happy.

    Thoroughly agree there.


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    #51
    Platinum2010
    Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    paulmclaughlin wrote: »
    But many employers see the Leaving Cert as the bare minimum when it might not even apply to the job the person is applying for? Yet that's one of the main deciding factors. Even if someone is say, not mathematically smart, they should be judged on this when it won't apply?

    I'm Mathematically challenged and It wont apply really to the job I want but still It shows alot to have the leaving cert
    hard work
    endurance and strengths

    not to mention If you get done for cheating imagine the shame ,
    No one in my Family would hire you if you were done for cheating in the leaving ,Why? because it shows your character
    It shows your sly and dishonest and un trustworthy
    and no employer in the right mind would chose that over someone honest and unemployed with a family to feed


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    #52
    paulmclaughlin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭paulmclaughlin


    Platinum2010 wrote: »
    I'm Mathematically challenged and It wont apply really to the job I want but still It shows alot to have the leaving cert
    hard work
    endurance and strengths

    not to mention If you get done for cheating imagine the shame ,
    No one in my Family would hire you if you were done for cheating in the leaving ,Why? because it shows your character
    It shows your sly and dishonest and un trustworthy
    and no employer in the right mind would chose that over someone honest and unemployed with a family to feed

    that's all very true. also shows you're determined to succeed haha


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    #53
    JamJamJamJam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭JamJamJamJam


    StudiosStudent wrote: »
    HE'S DOING THIS FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT, DON'T YOU DARE REPORT HIM. God why are we as a group such an ungrateful bunch of people?!

    If he gave them all foot massages it'd be nice of him too but come on! They just want their full exam time! :-P

    Edit: On second thoughts, reporting him to the principal could be a bit unnecessary, but someone should ask him for extra time at the end! :)


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    #54
    BillabongMad
    Registered Users Posts: 71 ✭✭BillabongMad


    My room is perfect for cheating, I'm up the front and there's spots where the examiner couldn't see without looking. HOWEVER, I couldn't be arsed writing out small notes and putting them up there before the exam starts and then spend the time worrying about getting caught. I'd back out too, aha I'm too much of a chicken to do it.
    Also the whole looking around and stuff is what I do D: I can't write if someone is within a 1 meter radius of me, I just get paranoid and can't think. :']

    Remember this folks, if you puke on your exam paper you automatically get a C2 or so I was told. :pac:


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    #55
    Griffen262
    Registered Users Posts: 286 ✭✭Griffen262


    *Awaits to see this thread content in national newspapers


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    #56
    RMD
    Registered Users Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    paulmclaughlin wrote: »
    I'm not cheating, I just don't think it's right to get someone's test cancelled and ruin a year of their life.

    Yes, but that person cheating could cost a person a spot on a course they genuinely would love to do. I don't think it's right to cheat and take a spot from a person who deserves it.
    StudiosStudent wrote: »
    HE'S DOING THIS FOR YOUR OWN BENEFIT, DON'T YOU DARE REPORT HIM. God why are we as a group such an ungrateful bunch of people?!

    Having the 10 minutes hes taking up with prayers available is a lot more beneficial than a quick word with god.


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    #57
    paulmclaughlin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭paulmclaughlin


    RMD wrote: »
    Yes, but that person cheating could cost a person a spot on a course they genuinely would love to do. I don't think it's right to cheat and take a spot from a person who deserves it.

    Already answered above, please read the whole thread...


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    #58
    J_E
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    BillabongMad wrote: »
    Remember this folks, if you puke on your exam paper you automatically get a C2 or so I was told. :pac:
    Should have done Higher Level Maths after all...


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    #59
    paulmclaughlin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭paulmclaughlin


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    Should have done Higher Level Maths after all...

    Higher everything! :)


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    #60
    Platinum2010
    Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    paulmclaughlin wrote: »
    that's all very true. also shows you're determined to succeed haha
    No!,
    It shows you'll do anything to get what you want there's a difference
    one is admirable the other means you'll steal from someone and not give a damn eg (college places)


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    #61
    paulmclaughlin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,299 ✭✭✭paulmclaughlin


    Platinum2010 wrote: »
    No!,
    It shows you'll do anything to get what you want there's a difference
    one is admirable the other means you'll steal from someone and not give a damn eg (college places)

    Yes I know, I was kidding, hence the "haha".


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