* Irish HL predictions P 1 AND 2 * (1 thread please!)

LittleMissLost

nikkaypandarr wrote: »

I found my some notes she gave us on oiche nollaig, marked as VERY IMPORTANT...

Was it Claire Grealy?

I have her notes too. She seems like a bit of a legend

Will have to wait 'till Monday though...

LittleMissLost

biggaman wrote: »

Hi
Rather than making a new thread, seeing as this is related to my essay on politics, could anyone give me a bit of help translating these few phrases?

Thanks!

Féachaimis ar bhuisead Bhriain Uí Luineacháin cúpla mhí ó shín. Chuir sé ar ceal an liúntas sa bhreis a thugtar dóibh siúd atá ar phinsin gach Nollaigh. Ní fhéadfadh focal ar bith a bheith ann chun cur síos beacht a dhéanamh ar an bhfearg a chuir is a chuireann go fóill ar shaoránaigh na tíre seo.

THATS A QUOTE FROM MY ESSAY! Got it from the Institute.

Don't mean to be disrespectful but is it still appropriate to put this in since he passed away yesterday?

LittleMissLost

We see Brian Lenehans budget a couple of months ago. He cut benefit that people on the pension get every Christmas. Nothing can put into words the anger that has been put and is being put on citizens of this country.

biggaman

LittleMissLost wrote: »

THATS A QUOTE FROM MY ESSAY! Got it from the Institute.

Don't mean to be disrespectful but is it still appropriate to put this in since he passed away yesterday?

Yeah me too

I haven't decided where to just refer to the budget alone, or write a tribute paragraph to him after mentioning him name yet..

and thanks!

LittleMissLost

biggaman wrote: »

Yeah me too

I haven't decided where to just refer to the budget alone, or write a tribute paragraph to him after mentioning him name yet..

and thanks!

We could just say "ar dheis Dé go raibh sé" in brackets after his name?

nikkaypandarr

LittleMissLost wrote: »

Was it Claire Grealy?

I have her notes too. She seems like a bit of a legend

Will have to wait 'till Monday though...

haha yeah, thats her! She was pretty sure about her predictions anyway!!

we will indeedy...

biggaman

LittleMissLost wrote: »

We could just say "ar dheis Dé go raibh sé" in brackets after his name?

Thats a good idea yeah, in fairness, we're not slating him personally its the system and Dáil in general, it just happens he was finance minister at the time?

LittleMissLost

biggaman wrote: »

Thats a good idea yeah, in fairness, we're not slating him personally its the system and Dáil in general, it just happens he was finance minister at the time?

Yeah.. Jeez I wonder how many others are using that essay if it fits? :cool:

"Éist! An ciúnas! cad tá le cliosint? Is é an freagra lom simplí ná "faic"."

:P

biggaman

Haha well i took half from that essay and half from my own teacher's god-like stuff.. hopefully I'll stand out.. :L :L
Seriously if politics doesn't come up, it'll be worse than maths. :L

lmwell

LittleMissLost wrote: »

Yeah.. Jeez I wonder how many others are using that essay if it fits? :cool:

"Éist! An ciúnas! cad tá le cliosint? Is é an freagra lom simplí ná "faic"."

:P

Ha , I have that one too. I've mixed and matched paragraphs from this and the Policitics essay ("Ta eolas ag cach ar an seanfhocal...")

The essay I've learnt off, I have broken down to 7 paragraphs;

The Past & The good times
The Change/Arrival of the recession
Unemployment
Cost of living
The 50's and 60's compared to today
Politicians and what they're doing to help
Outlook of the future

Couple of my paragraphs are small but the essay in total in around 500 words, or just about.

biggaman

I don't have definate ideas in my paragraphs tbh, just a general essay on how politics is a scam and if we don't change the way the country is run we're screwed. :L Got around 3.5 pages out of it all the same, just shows how bad the country is :P

lmwell

biggaman wrote: »

I don't have definate ideas in my paragraphs tbh, just a general essay on how politics is a scam and if we don't change the way the country is run we're screwed. :L Got around 3.5 pages out of it all the same, just shows how bad the country is :P

Well in fairness, youre idea is better than mine because mine is very tailored to one type of essay - at least you should be able to play around with yours no matter what the title.

Oh god can you imagine if NOTHING comes up on problems/recession or politics. I'll literally have nothing to write

expectant

Some good tips here....thanks posters

Ok... I'm not planning to study these poems -
An Chead Drama (2010)
Uirchill an Creagain (2010)
An t-Oilean (2006, some controversy about it then hasn't come up since!)

Am I crazy?

Realt11

plmokn wrote: »

Never covered anything on emmigration.. But I have loads on the recession and politics and that... I'm freaking out about the essay already to be honest! Just because it's worth so many marks
Thanks for the advice!

I know this is such a cliché but all you can do is your best. Over the weekend you should randomely pick a past paper you havent done, give a go at the comprehensions at first and then launch into the essay. practice your grammar more than anything.

recession and politics are topics that have a really high chance of coming up and if you have some stuff prepared then stick to that.

lmwell

3A: Gealt. Jack. Bimse Buan.

3C: Oiche Nollag and Maigdileana.

Stair: An Fhiannaiocht , Na hAnnala, An Aisling Pholaitiul.

lmwell

expectant wrote: »

Some good tips here....thanks posters

Ok... I'm not planning to study these poems -
An Chead Drama (2010)
Uirchill an Creagain (2010)
An t-Oilean (2006, some controversy about it then hasn't come up since!)

Am I crazy?

Nope I dont think youre crazy. Im not planning to study any of these either

Im putting the most work into Magdileana, Oiche Nollag and Dan do Melissa.

Realt11

Dánta Dualgais Breise: An t-Oileán, Maigdileana, Oíche Nollaig na mBan.

Níl Aon Ní, Bimse Buan, Gealt

Cearrbhach/Bean Óg, Lig Sinn i gCathú, Clare sa Spéir.

Ruraíocht, Fiannaíocht are hotly tipped for stair na Gaeilge!

Go n-éirí libh a chairde!

ClaireMarie

Could someone answer: how do you say "they are going abroad to find jobs"
Is it: "ta siad ag dul thar lar chun postanna a fail????
It's the "to find" part that I don't know??

Realt11

ClaireMarie wrote: »

Could someone answer: how do you say "they are going abroad to find jobs"
Is it: "ta siad ag dul thar lar chun postanna a fail????
It's the "to find" part that I don't know??

Tá siad ag dul thar lear/ar imirce chun fostaíocht a haimsiú

They are going abroad/emigrating to find employment

ClaireMarie

Realt11 wrote: »

Tá siad ag dul thar lear/ar imirce chun fostaíocht a haimsiú

They are going abroad/emigrating to find employment

Ok, thanks a lot!!

xclw

I was looking through the papers and to be honest you need to study all pass poems and stories, the compulsory question topic often comes up on the paper the next year as a choice and often as the compulsory one too.

xclw

expectant wrote: »

Some good tips here....thanks posters

Ok... I'm not planning to study these poems -
An Chead Drama (2010)
Uirchill an Creagain (2010)
An t-Oilean (2006, some controversy about it then hasn't come up since!)

Am I crazy?

hmmm well if i was you i would study an t-oilean, its the last year and to be honest its the most likely to come up, you can chance leaving an chead drama out and as for Uirchill just learn aisling for stair and if they do happen to repeat it at least you'll know something about it from that point of view

dambarude

There's been a lot of talk in Irish language circles about the Stráitéis Fiche Bliain don Ghaeilge (20 year strategy for the Irish language). I'd say there's a good chance something on the Irish language will come up, for that reason. It could be a debate though. Something linked to this would be the usefulness (or perhaps lack thereof) of the language.

It's likely any question relating to the recession will be skewed in some way. The problem would be understanding what the title means, especially if it's an idiom or seanfhocal. Something on the benefits of travel or some such could be linked to this through emigration.

They're just my musings!

nommm

What was the controversy about An t-Oilean in 2006?

J_E

I'm so screwed for the aural...when that goddamn Ulster dialect comes up, they may as well be speaking Korean to me.

nommm

I wish we heard the last section a third time and the comhras only twice. I usually get the comhras on the first listen but I'm terrible at the last section.

hunii07

nikkaypandarr wrote: »

I found my some notes she gave us on oiche nollaig, marked as VERY IMPORTANT...

Thanks ..was getting worried

claire_p

xclw wrote: »

how many stairs are people doing?

if i learn
-aislings
-ruraiocht
-fiannaiocht
-athbheochan
-ogham
-gaeltachts
-gluaiseanna sa sean gaeilge

will i have enough to be covered or can anyone suggest another 1 or 2 to learn too
thanks!!

i picked 10 altoghether.. mine our

ruraiocht
fiannaiocht
aisling
gaeilge sa meain cumarsaide
gael linn
an gaeiltacht
na hannala

and then 3 people that are easy to remember beacuse the are to do with our course:

mairtin o dieran
mairead ni ghrada
caitlin maude

if i were you, id have the media one done, that was a big tip, and obviously you have both ruraiocht and fhianniocht, one of them defo will be...

decosabute

Danta Dualgais Breise:

I've gone for
Oiche Nollag
Maigdileana
An tOilean
Dan Do Mhelissa.

No matter what anyone says, these are by far the most likely. I've not bothered with last year's two (Chead Drama and Uirchill) because they've never ever repeated the same ones consecutive years. This being the last year, they're not going to start now. I've also taken a look at the absolute basics of Da mB'fheidir... just in case they decide bring up both of the poems from 2 years ago. I'm confident I've got the bases covered with all that.

Aiste:
I've done the recession one, an emigration one (which has a lot of the same stuff as the recession), one on timpeallacht and one on problems for young people. I slightly regret not doing one on politics now, but having looked through the past papers, there's just about always been a way of working one of the ones I have done into a title. As others have said, it's only 20% of the marks in the essay going for content, so even if it's a pretty tenuous link to the title, you should still be able to score reasonably well with a well written essay.

Good luck everyone!

claire_p

i am hoping for the paper this year that the following comes up in paper 2

pros
any except lig sinn, and that cearrbhach isn't the compulsary one..

an triail
a charachter question comes up

Pass poems
dont mind, once bimse buan isnt the compulsary one..

hons poems
any from:
maigdilena
an mhatar
oiche nollaig
dan do mhellisa
an chead drama
(they're the only ones i know)

stair na gaeilge
ruraiocht
fhianiocht
na hannala
aisling
an gaeltacht
gael linn
gaeilge sa meain cumarsaide
mairtin o dieran
mairead ne ghrada
caitlin maude

do you all think that's enough? i know an t-oilean is due, but i just dont like it and it's too long to cover by tuesday!!

AHogan92

Quick one there for ye: if i use fiche blian ag fas in the pros roghnach (ceist 1) could i use it again for dirbheathnneis roghnach(ceist 2)? Cram cram cram!

whistlin_boy

AFAIK You can't use Fiche Bliain ag Fás in the prós rognach section or in the dírbheathaisnéisí rognach section........:(

Emz..

Realt11 wrote: »

it depends how well you keep to the point. going off on an opinion that you off by heart but has no relevance to the title will cost you marks BUT they give more marks on the grammar: the tense you use, how well you use it, fluency etc.

if i were you Emz id learn off a few key terms about the recession just to throw in if you want to write the essay you have. At least then they (examiners) know it aint all bull****

Thanks a million!!

AHogan92

so where do i use it? could i use lig sinn i gathu fo he ursceal roghnach..im an exernal student so no 1 else to ask

irishgirl10

Im literally leaving all my Stair until the very last, which will probably be around 11 monday night What do you think I should look at??

partyatmygaff

irishgirl10 wrote: »

Im literally leaving all my Stair until the very last, which will probably be around 11 monday night What do you think I should look at??

Look at the writers. They're very easy. Just learn off a few details about the most popular ones in English and translate it on the fly during the exam in to Irish.

I got away with saying "Rugadh sé i dtús an fichiú céad i gContae Corcaigh" and the like instead of exact dates and places without losing too many marks in my mock.

hunii07

For stair I'm doing Fianniocht ruraiocht ogham and the writers... should that be enough? or what else?

xclw

how many writers do you have to study? my teacher never did them with us but i was looking in my book and you only need about 5 lines on each so i think i'll do them.

lmwell

The only Stair I'm studying are;

An Ruraiocht
An Fhiannaiocht
Na hAnnala
Aisling Pholaitiuil

I know its a big gamble but I have to draw the line and I'm trying to revise the poems and everything else. I think of those four, surely one will come up, and it wont make a massive dent in my grade.

emma123abc

Does anyone have notes or a paragraph or a link for imirce they could share with me?

Have lots of recession vocab learned and all the fadhbanna sa tír and fadhbanna an duine óig, but nothing on imirce, and it seems highly tipped to come up!


Oh and anything on politicians? just a few lines to incoroporate into an essay:)

gaeilgebeo

Realt11 wrote: »

An t-Oileán is almost a given for Paper II, it has not appeared in the exam yet.

Maigdilena, Oíche Nollaig na mBan agus An Mhatháir.

It was on paper 2 in 2006.

Starscream25

Framble wrote: »

Clare sa Speir... an Bhean Og... Cearrbhach MacCaba.
Nil aon Ni and Jack.
Maigdileana, An t-Oilean, Dan do Mhelissa.
An Fhiannaiocht, an Caighdean, an Ogham, Dan Direach...




OMG I'M SCREWED THIS IS GOING TO BE THE WORST EXAM EVER.
sorry, i just wanted to get that off my chest.

im up **** creek myself, if economy, bean og, lig sin i gcathu, gealt, an toilean, fianniacht dont come up ill have nothing to write about.

Starscream25

hi does anyone have a handy sample answer on jack they could send me.if not that ok, im only expecting the whole 'what can go wrong will go wrong' situation to occur

emma123abc

Starscream25 wrote: »

hi does anyone have a handy sample answer on jack they could send me.if not that ok, im only expecting the whole 'what can go wrong will go wrong' situation to occur

These are the notes i made out myself for jack:) they're like 2 pages long handwritten, so enough to get you through a question.

Teideal an dáin
· Tá an teideal an dáin an-simplí. Úsáidtear focal amháin; ainm an buachalla.
· Is teideal pearsanta agus gonta é.
· Cruthaíonn an teideal íomhá den bhuachaill.
· Tugann an teideal urraim agus ómós (respect and honour) don leaid tríd an dáin síos.
Téama an dáin
· Dán grá is ea Jack, ach ní dán grá ar nós na seandánta é.
· Is grá na hóige nó grá soineanta an tsamhraidh atá i gceist.
· Tá an file ag dul síos bóithrín na smaointe le cuimhí na hóige.
· Thit an file i ngrá le buachaill nuair a bhí sí óg. Ach ní raibh ann ach grá samhraidh, grá sealadach, grá éadrom.
· Pé scéal é, guíonn an file gach maitheas agus ádh air ina shaol sa todhchaí, mar tá sé tuillte aige, dar léi.
· Sa chéad dhá véarsa, tá an béim ar an ócáid agus cuma an buachalla. Cruthaíonn an file suíomh agus atmaisféar faoi leith.
· Ní cuimneoidh Jack ar Mháire go deo, ach ní dhearmadfaidh Máire air go deo.
Mothúcháin
· Is iad na mothúcháin is mó atá le brath sa dán seo ná lúchair agus aoibhneas an chailín agus í faoi gheasa ag ógánach dathúil ar bhuail se leis ar saoire.
· Ní léiríonn sí aiféala dá laghad de bharr nár tháinig aon rud as gcumann a bhí eatarthu.
· Tá grá éadrom le sonrú sa dán; is grá éagmaiseach é. Bhí an file i ngrá le Jack ach ní raibh seisean i ngrá léi.
· Spreagann cuimhne an tsamhraidh úd cumha (nostalgia) agus dea-cuimhní i gcroí an bhfile.
Íomhánna
· Baineann an file úsáid mhór as íomhánna deasa sa dán seo.
· Cruthaíonn sí pictiúr deas soiléir den ógánach os ár gcomhair sa dán; tá sé le feiceáil sa chéad líne – ‘Strapaire fionn sé troithe ar airde’.
· Feictear Jack freisin sna mion sonraí – ‘a gháire ciúin’ agus ‘a ghruaig nua-chíortha’. Is focail molta iad.
· Tá ar a cumas pictiúr corraitheach den buachaill a chruthú dúinn in sa líne sin, ‘ní dhearúdfad a ghéaga im thimpeall’.
Rithim
· Baineann sí úsáid as friotal lom gonta simplí sa dán. Léirítear an méid seo i gcruinneas agus i ngontacht línte mar ‘buí fén lampa ar bheagán íle’ agus ‘mar atá tréitheach go dté crích air’.
· Tá cuid mhait samplaí de dheismíreacht cainte sa dán seo. Is iad na cinn is deise ná ‘Strapaire fionn’, ‘mo rogha phairtí’ agus ‘mar gheal lem chroí é’. Cuireann an deismíreachtaí caintte go mór le rithim agus le hatmaisféar an dáin.
Meadaracht
· Tá an dán scríofa sa saorvéarsaíocht. Tá ceithre líne i ngach rann agus ceithre bhéim i ngach líne.
· Tá rithim rialta ag baint leis an dán. Tá sé éifeachtach agus ceolmhar.
· Tá comhfhuaimeanna le tabhairt faoi deasa ag deireadh na rélínte. Tá an comhfhuaim dheiridh seo an ‘í’ an-éifeachtach agus téann sé i bhfeidhm go mór ar an gcluais. Mar shampla, i véarsa a haon tá comhfhuaim idir airde, tíre, oíche agus rince.
· Tá samplaí d’uaim sa dán freisin idir ciúin agus chaint, agus idir búi ahis bheagán.
· Tá samplaí d’aicill idir airde agus iarthar agus idir sé agus dté.
· Tá rithim nádúrtha agus binneas na teanga lebhartha chun tosaigh ann chomh maith.
Pearsanta Jack
· Is easca Jack a shamhlú, é a fheiceáil inár n-intinn féin. Is léir go bhfuil sé béasach agus taitneamhach. Déanann Máire tagairt dá gháire, chaint, léine agus ghruaig.
· Léirítear dúinn cén sórt saol atá i ndán dó. Bhí feirm a athar a fháil mar oidhreacht, bean aitiúil a phósadh agus clann a tógáil i ndán dó.
· Is léir gur thaitin a chomhluadar go mór léi nuair a deir Máire ‘Dob é an samhradh so mo rogha ‘pháirtí é’.
· Glacann Máire leis, áfach, nach bhfuil aon rud buan i ndán don chumann a bhí eatharthu.

emma123abc

Oh and sorry for any grammar/spelling/general mistakes, typed them up quickly the other day, so they're not the best:o

Starscream25

emma123abc wrote: »

Oh and sorry for any grammar/spelling/general mistakes, typed them up quickly the other day, so they're not the best:o

thanks so much emma.hopefully itl stick in my head,cant wait til its all over with.its almost traumatizing

emma123abc

Starscream25 wrote: »

thanks so much emma.hopefully itl stick in my head,cant wait til its all over with.its almost traumatizing

Only almost traumatising? I would sub in very instead;)

hunii07

emma123abc wrote: »

These are the notes i made out myself for jack:) they're like 2 pages long handwritten, so enough to get you through a question.

Teideal an dáin
· Tá an teideal an dáin an-simplí. Úsáidtear focal amháin; ainm an buachalla.
· Is teideal pearsanta agus gonta é.
· Cruthaíonn an teideal íomhá den bhuachaill.
· Tugann an teideal urraim agus ómós (respect and honour) don leaid tríd an dáin síos.
Téama an dáin
· Dán grá is ea Jack, ach ní dán grá ar nós na seandánta é.
· Is grá na hóige nó grá soineanta an tsamhraidh atá i gceist.
· Tá an file ag dul síos bóithrín na smaointe le cuimhí na hóige.
· Thit an file i ngrá le buachaill nuair a bhí sí óg. Ach ní raibh ann ach grá samhraidh, grá sealadach, grá éadrom.
· Pé scéal é, guíonn an file gach maitheas agus ádh air ina shaol sa todhchaí, mar tá sé tuillte aige, dar léi.
· Sa chéad dhá véarsa, tá an béim ar an ócáid agus cuma an buachalla. Cruthaíonn an file suíomh agus atmaisféar faoi leith.
· Ní cuimneoidh Jack ar Mháire go deo, ach ní dhearmadfaidh Máire air go deo.
Mothúcháin
· Is iad na mothúcháin is mó atá le brath sa dán seo ná lúchair agus aoibhneas an chailín agus í faoi gheasa ag ógánach dathúil ar bhuail se leis ar saoire.
· Ní léiríonn sí aiféala dá laghad de bharr nár tháinig aon rud as gcumann a bhí eatarthu.
· Tá grá éadrom le sonrú sa dán; is grá éagmaiseach é. Bhí an file i ngrá le Jack ach ní raibh seisean i ngrá léi.
· Spreagann cuimhne an tsamhraidh úd cumha (nostalgia) agus dea-cuimhní i gcroí an bhfile.
Íomhánna
· Baineann an file úsáid mhór as íomhánna deasa sa dán seo.
· Cruthaíonn sí pictiúr deas soiléir den ógánach os ár gcomhair sa dán; tá sé le feiceáil sa chéad líne – ‘Strapaire fionn sé troithe ar airde’.
· Feictear Jack freisin sna mion sonraí – ‘a gháire ciúin’ agus ‘a ghruaig nua-chíortha’. Is focail molta iad.
· Tá ar a cumas pictiúr corraitheach den buachaill a chruthú dúinn in sa líne sin, ‘ní dhearúdfad a ghéaga im thimpeall’.
Rithim
· Baineann sí úsáid as friotal lom gonta simplí sa dán. Léirítear an méid seo i gcruinneas agus i ngontacht línte mar ‘buí fén lampa ar bheagán íle’ agus ‘mar atá tréitheach go dté crích air’.
· Tá cuid mhait samplaí de dheismíreacht cainte sa dán seo. Is iad na cinn is deise ná ‘Strapaire fionn’, ‘mo rogha phairtí’ agus ‘mar gheal lem chroí é’. Cuireann an deismíreachtaí caintte go mór le rithim agus le hatmaisféar an dáin.
Meadaracht
· Tá an dán scríofa sa saorvéarsaíocht. Tá ceithre líne i ngach rann agus ceithre bhéim i ngach líne.
· Tá rithim rialta ag baint leis an dán. Tá sé éifeachtach agus ceolmhar.
· Tá comhfhuaimeanna le tabhairt faoi deasa ag deireadh na rélínte. Tá an comhfhuaim dheiridh seo an ‘í’ an-éifeachtach agus téann sé i bhfeidhm go mór ar an gcluais. Mar shampla, i véarsa a haon tá comhfhuaim idir airde, tíre, oíche agus rince.
· Tá samplaí d’uaim sa dán freisin idir ciúin agus chaint, agus idir búi ahis bheagán.
· Tá samplaí d’aicill idir airde agus iarthar agus idir sé agus dté.
· Tá rithim nádúrtha agus binneas na teanga lebhartha chun tosaigh ann chomh maith.
Pearsanta Jack
· Is easca Jack a shamhlú, é a fheiceáil inár n-intinn féin. Is léir go bhfuil sé béasach agus taitneamhach. Déanann Máire tagairt dá gháire, chaint, léine agus ghruaig.
· Léirítear dúinn cén sórt saol atá i ndán dó. Bhí feirm a athar a fháil mar oidhreacht, bean aitiúil a phósadh agus clann a tógáil i ndán dó.
· Is léir gur thaitin a chomhluadar go mór léi nuair a deir Máire ‘Dob é an samhradh so mo rogha ‘pháirtí é’.
· Glacann Máire leis, áfach, nach bhfuil aon rud buan i ndán don chumann a bhí eatharthu.

You my dear are a lifesaver I was just about to ask would anyone have notes on Jack..... THANK YOU SOOOOOO MUCH :D:D

Starscream25

Starscream25 wrote: »

thanks so much emma.hopefully itl stick in my head,cant wait til its all over with.its almost traumatizing

im expecting myself to lose my mind during the exam, probably standing up in the middle of the exam ripping up my paipear and screaming out I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE and just run out of the building

Starscream25

emma123abc wrote: »

Only almost traumatising? I would sub in very instead;)

im expecting myself to lose my mind during the exam, probably standing up in the middle of the exam ripping up my paipear and screaming out I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE and just run out of the building