Take note of the fire exits whenever you're at a club, gig or concert

Cathaoirleach

Words cannot decribe how horrible this is. 100 dead. My heart goes out to these people and their families.

Always check for fire exits and escape routes whenever you're in a venue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DObOdAceGo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmPOIriMiyU

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Station_nightclub_fire


Dublin Stardust disaster - 48 dead

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stardust_fire

Son Of A Vidic

Christ jesus! I'm pretty unshockable but just looking at that was disturbing, those poor people. I can't believe how quickly the fire took hold, before the cameraman even got to the exit you could see the wall of black smoke coming behind him. Very scary and very sobering.

Superbus

The difference between being perfectly fine, or crushed and asphyxiated was a couple of seconds of reactions and an awareness of fire exits. Jesus.

Charlie Haughy

Those screams of the people still inside in the fire when the camerman walks around the back near the end is horrifying.

G_R

wow, thats pretty horrifying!

Was that recently? I'm surprised I haven't anything about it until now

Richard tea

I remember seeing this vid a good while ago. Its amazing how fast the fire & smoke spread. Are there any reports about the materials used in construction? seem like the roof had polystyrene tiles or something

Minstrel27

It was February 20th 2003. Absoultely horrific .

Cú Giobach

Jesus Christ that was horrific.
The pile up at the door really gives an image of what actually happens in these situations.
Personally I think stuff like that should be shown on the news, as it would make people more aware and maybe they would think about checking exits in nightclubs etc.

titanium feather

God that's terrifying.

It does make you think ... I've been to my local nightclub countless times, but I couldn't say with certainty exactly where all the fire exits are. And besides which, if a fire did break out, my instinctive reaction (along with everyone elses) probably would be to run for the main entrance that I'm familiar with. And of course, when people have been drinking and aren't thinking clearly, it's only going to make things worse.

Those poor people. What an awful way to die.

Leiva

Frightening !


I have been to many a dodgy club in both Ireland and abroad , and judging by the video above probably one match or flame from a disaster .

This video needs to go viral to open peoples eyes .

stargazer 68

I have been in a couple of clubs in dublin and I can tell you that, apart from them being way overcrowded there is no way you would get out. It took us an hour to find an exit that we could use one night in one particular place and that was just trying to leave - I can only imagine what it would have been like if there had been a fire. Never went there again.

Taco Corp

Cú Giobach wrote: »

The pile up at the door really gives an image of what actually happens in these situations.

Can you imagine being trapped like that? The panic that they must have gone through.

My name is URL

Pretty stupid to have them spark machines running in such an enclosed place.

Superbus

My name is URL wrote: »

Pretty stupid to have them spark machines running in such an enclosed place.

That's why the manager of the band apparently got 10 years for more than 100 charges of manslaughter.

My name is URL

Superbus wrote: »

That's why the manager of the band apparently got 10 years for more than 100 charges of manslaughter.

He was released in 2008, so served just under 2 years. The families of the deceased supported his early release as he showed a great deal of remorse and accepted responsibility straight away.

The use of such pyrotechnics should be banned from indoor use at gigs etc.

Turtwig

Horrific to listen to.:(

Isn't there a rule like 90 seconds from the first signs of fire before it usually engulfs everything in its immediate surrounds? One huge problem in that Nightclub was the open space, it needs more pillars to stop people squashing one another on the way out.

Leiva

My name is URL wrote: »

He was released in 2008, so served just under 2 years. The families of the deceased supported his early release as he showed a great deal of remorse and accepted responsibility straight away.

The use of such pyrotechnics should be banned from indoor use at gigs etc.

Also the camera man's employer was fined pretty hefty ...

"In February 2008, Providence television station WPRI-TV made an out-of-court settlement of US $30 million as a result of the claim that their video journalist was said to be obstructing escape and not helping people exit. WPRI-TV (owned by LIN Broadcasting) was filming a story on nightclub tragedies, and was there that night to film as part of their story

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Station_nightclub_fire

mgmt

Heartbreaking. I couldnt watch after the 1st screams amid the black smoke. Thanks OP for hammering home this message.

mixednuts

mixednuts wrote: »

Also the camera man's employer was fined pretty hefty ...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Station_nightclub_fire

I find it a bit ridiculous that they were fined, really. Had he put down the camera, they would never have gotten any footage like what they have.

XxMCRxBabyxX

Deleted User wrote: »

I find it a bit ridiculous that they were fined, really. Had he put down the camera, they would never have gotten any footage like what they have.

It's a two way thing though.
You can kind of see him block people in the beginning though. He didn't have to block them in order to film

entropi

Fcuk!:eek:

Not a nice thing to watch at all...especially watching people burning alive in all essence. It does hammer home that message and thankfully I always look for the exits in any place I've been to.

GAAman

Master of Nothing wrote: »

Fcuk!:eek:

Not a nice thing to watch at all...especially watching people burning alive in all essence. It does hammer home that message and thankfully I always look for the exits in any place I've been to.

In all essence nothin man at one point between the 6th and 7th minute ( i am not going back to rewatch it for an accurate timestamp) you can actually see a person emerge from the front of the building on fire!

Horrible

entropi

GAAman wrote: »

In all essence nothin man at one point between the 6th and 7th minute ( i am not going back to rewatch it for an accurate timestamp) you can actually see a person emerge from the front of the building on fire!

Horrible

I'm trying to make it sound less horrible than it already is...that's not the only person I seen. Few secs after that moment, watch the front door...

Thats all I'm saying about this now, its not nice.

Kensington

My name is URL wrote: »

The use of such pyrotechnics should be banned from indoor use at gigs etc.

Ideally, yes, but there's a few venues here in Ireland that make use of pyrotechnics and fire eating indoors.
One venue I was in a few months ago had a fire eating show but there were fairly large amounts of unburned paraffin oil being sprayed over the crowd below. Place was jam packed at the time, doesn't really bear thinking about what could have happened had a stray spark made its way in to the crowd, or a punter went outside to the smoking area and a cigarette hits their jacket, damp with paraffin oil...

df1985

absolutely horrific, nearly stopped watching a few times. It made me think of certain packed nightclubs in dublin.I wouldnt have a clue how to get out of one in particular except for up a narrow stairs!?

KilOit

Watched this vid years ago and ever since i make an effort to locate fire exits in nightclubs.
Most of the dead were piled on top of each other at the front door, also read reports that one guy survived it, he was at the bottom of the pile of corpses with only slight burns, also sketchy reports of 1 man drowning at the bottom with the fire hoses causing a build up of water.

Cathaoirleach

KilOit wrote: »

he was at the bottom of the pile of corpses with only slight burns,

oh god, that's horrific. hell on earth.

[Jackass]

Chilling and disturbing.

God love them, what an awful way to go. When he goes to the fire escape around the side and shouts in, the silence is eery, and then as he makes his away around to the front again, the screams of "help us" are haunting....the last few words in some poor terrified girls life...

Cathaoirleach

This is a clip from the Santika Club fire

This is extremely disturbing and shows dead bodies. You have been warned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4lHdbp91VI&feature=player_detailpage#t=54s


I'd like to remind people to make sure that you have smoke detectors in your house/apartment. I went out and bought three for my apartment after watching the video in the OP. Going to fit them tomorrow.

They're only a few quid, so you have no excuse.

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/7001552/Trail/searchtext%3ESMOKE+ALARM.htm

chillywilly

@ approx 2:00 mins. Good call on the cameraman standing there and doing sweet **** all to help the people get out. Idiot.

arybvtcw0eolkf

mgmt wrote: »

Heartbreaking. I couldnt watch after the 1st screams amid the black smoke. Thanks OP for hammering home this message.

I'll give you another message... Follow staff instructions!.

Although not speaking about thr clip posted in this thread this is based on personal experience.

I was working in a club in 2001 when a fire was started in a fire escape/staircase.

Despite billowing smoke some people refused to follow our instructions to vacate towards the other fire escapes, some complained that the bar doesn't close until 2: 30 am, others complained they had only been served and had full pints, and others that they couldn't find their costs our bags.

Long story short.. Firefighters at the scene told me that was a regular occurence - ie customers not following instructions.

Just a cautionary note guys.

I used to work in a cinema and there was one day where we had to evacuate the place for whatever reason. There were some people that were refusing to move, because they had paid money to see the movie and blah blah blah. During fire drills the managers instructed us to tell them once, if they refuse tell them again, if they then refuse to leave them there and tell the firemen where these people were sitting, so they could be forcibly removed.

The mind boggles sometimes.

mgmt

I just seen a carbon copy niteclub fire that killed 156 on youtube. It happened in Russia in 2009. Again pyrotechnics were the cause. Same panic trying to get out.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxCU0o4WtpE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lame_Horse_fire

Are pyrotechnics banned in Ireland in enclosed spaces?

XxMCRxBabyxX

mgmt wrote: »

Are pyrotechnics banned in Ireland in enclosed spaces?

Was just asking a DJ I know about that and according to him (From an edited fb chat conversation):

• they have to be passed through the dept of justice
• takes about 6 weeks for clearance
• there are only 3 companies in ireland that can use them
• anyone who uses them has to get permission from all the departments and notify the fire services,etc

RunningFlyer

Equally as horrific, but another reminder how quickly fire can spread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11UP99uHMuI

It gets pretty bad towards the end, but the police were very quick to initiate an evacuation which Im sure prevented further deaths.

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bradford_City_stadium_fire)

The people cheering the fire, while others burned nearby, is just disgusting.

JerryHandbag

Christ almighty....all those videos are a tough watch. That poor guy on fire in the Bradford one, he just seemed to be accepting his fate Horrible stuff. It really is astonishing how quickly those fires spread!

Locker10a

Malty_T wrote: »

Horrific to listen to.:(

Isn't there a rule like 90 seconds from the first signs of fire before it usually engulfs everything in its immediate surrounds? One huge problem in that Nightclub was the open space, it needs more pillars to stop people squashing one another on the way out.

The 90 second rule is for aircraft as far as i know! Cabin Crew must evacuate all passengers in 90 seconds from the time the command to evacuate is given! Fire or no fire(but its incase a fire starts if one hasent done so already)
Speaking of fires and planes did anyone see the Manchester runway disaster? Like in the video fire broke out and most people dies trying to find the exits. Very sad! Thankfully there have been alot of changes to the aviation industry! But no matter where you all KNOW WHERE THE EXIT IT

TheInquisitor

Thats horrific and scary. At 6mins 30 im sure you can see people moving in the fire at the doorway.

BigDuffman

Arlo Melodic Seaside wrote: »

I'll give you another message... Follow staff instructions!.

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+1

Irish people seem more concerned about finishing their drinks and not losing their place in the q for jackets than listening to staff doing a job to ensure safety. Or bizarrely refusing to move out of the way of emergency services personnel trying to get in somewhere to help out another human being.

Theres a few places in Dublin that are still working over capacity and that could potentially be death traps. OP thanks for posting.

[Jackass]

I would wager that the absolute vast majority of pubs and clubs in Dublin are death traps. If you think of places you regularly go to, and imagine yourself as deep into the place as possible, would you know how to get out other than a front or back door?

Especially in pubs where you can barely move and imagine trying to get out in the panic of a fire...

UglyBolloxFace

That is terrifying. My heart goes out to them and their families.

Something has just occurred to me - wouldn't it be a good idea that at the start of gigs the security workers points out the location of the fire exits? Just like on a plane, at the start of each journey.

I know it would seem 'uncool' or whatever you want to call it, but it would save lives.

dfx-

Deleted User wrote: »

The people cheering the fire, while others burned nearby, is just disgusting.

I think it's hard to call on that one. It might've looked like everyone got out onto the pitch. Almost everyone who died did so after going back towards the turnstiles under the stand that were locked and not out onto the pitch.

Again, going back to where they came in and the fire spread too quick to get back to the pitch...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTdvJGsZFxM

First minute or so....there's always some truth in comedy..

Locker10a

XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »

Was just asking a DJ I know about that and according to him (From an edited fb chat conversation):

I was in a packed club lastnight! And there were there! I didnt know till they shot up either side of the stage! Freaked me out abit , because of what i saw in the video! I stoped and located every exit ! There was also fire eaters on stilts ! Blowing Flames up to the celing Really opened my eyes to the potential danger! And if i hadet seen the video i vouldnt have passed a bit of heed! But im glad im aware now though