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Egyptian man to fight a lion in direct combat

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    #92
    Monty Burnz
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    sensibleken wrote: »
    yeah...with laughter

    Or by more conventional means...


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    #93
    Guill
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    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Or by more conventional means...


    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


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    #94
    Carl Sagan
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    As long as they put this music on in the background, I'm ok with it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCamCYip2t4


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    #95
    ScumLord
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    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Well, would you expect a chimpanzee to be able to kill a lion in a cage fight? Because a chimpanzee would rip a man to shreds.
    People keep Lions in captivity, it's not hard to get the upper hand on a lot of animals just by knowing their behaviour.


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    #96
    Monty Burnz
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    ScumLord wrote: »
    People keep Lions in captivity, it's not hard to get the upper hand on a lot of animals just by knowing their behaviour.
    Well, the behaviour of lions is to rip humans to shreds, if they so desire. It's hard to see how you'd turn this to your advantage. :)

    By the way, back in the days when it was quite acceptable, they found that bears would kill lions in fights - they have far heavier and stronger bones apparently, and were able to break those of the big cats.


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    #97
    orourkeda
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    This episode could end in tears


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    #98
    orourkeda
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    http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/lionCATERS_450x300.jpg


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    #99
    Monty Burnz
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    orourkeda wrote: »
    http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/lionCATERS_450x300.jpg
    So they finally found those photos of Androcles and the lion?


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    #100
    Wossack
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    orourkeda wrote: »
    http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2009/02/lionCATERS_450x300.jpg

    if I remember my WWF, he's just about to put that lion in a figure four leg lock


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    #101
    ScumLord
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    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Well, the behaviour of lions is to rip humans to shreds, if they so desire. It's hard to see how you'd turn this to your advantage. :)
    Simply by not showing your back to the lion and running away you will confuse the lion as they don't know what to do when things don't act like prey. Secondly a lion on it's own won't be as confident as it normally would with a pride. Lions are designed for quick burst of power, they will weaken before the human over time.

    A human could know where nerve bundles are just below the skin allowing it to paralyse an animal with one blow, Horses and sharks are animals we can control with a touch because of the way their bodies are wired.

    I would say it's quiet likely people have killed more lions (even before the gun) than lions have killed humans.

    We already dominate these animals.


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    #102
    sensibleken
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    ScumLord wrote: »
    Simply by not showing your back to the lion and running away you will confuse the lion as they don't know what to do when things don't act like prey. Secondly a lion on it's own won't be as confident as it normally would with a pride. Lions are designed for quick burst of power, they will weaken before the human over time.

    A human could know where nerve bundles are just below the skin allowing it to paralyse an animal with one blow, Horses and sharks are animals we can control with a touch because of the way their bodies are wired.

    I would say it's quiet likely people have killed more lions (even before the gun) than lions have killed humans.

    We already dominate these animals.

    with guns, spears etc. not with our bare hands in a cage like this eejit


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    #103
    prinz
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    ScumLord wrote: »
    ...it's not hard to get the upper hand on a lot of animals just by knowing their behaviour.

    Great quote. Steve Irwin I believe.


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    #104
    hidinginthebush
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    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    Or by more conventional means...

    It cannot be unseen :(


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    #105
    joemcg18
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    this is awesome this should defintely go ahead


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    #106
    ScumLord
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    sensibleken wrote: »
    with guns, spears etc. not with our bare hands in a cage like this eejit
    No guns, it's been a right of passage in African tribes for century's. Other tribes can just walk up to lions on a fresh kill and take what they want, no spears.

    I really think a human trained to be able to kill a lion without weapons could do it and once he's done it once will only get better and better at it.


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    #107
    CrazyRabbit
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    If he wants to give the lion a free meal, who are we to stop it?


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    #108
    sensibleken
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    ScumLord wrote: »
    No guns, it's been a right of passage in African tribes for century's. Other tribes can just walk up to lions on a fresh kill and take what they want, no spears.

    I really think a human trained to be able to kill a lion without weapons could do it and once he's done it once will only get better and better at it.

    i'd have to see it to believe it to be honest


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    #109
    Agricola
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    Id hate to see the animal die for the purpose of tourism but that aside, who wouldnt love to watch a man do battle with a lion in front of the pyramids!


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    #110
    Nabber
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    I f he wanted to make it a fair fight the lion should be going in hungry.

    My guess is the lion will be drugged up, or it has some dis-ability, blindness maybe.

    Good luck to him, the only part of it I find stupid, is where he says 'I have challenged the lion, and now he has to fight'

    I don't remember challenges working like that. Maybe in egypt. Where the mightiest soilders live :)


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    #111
    Monty Burnz
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    ScumLord wrote: »
    I really think a human trained to be able to kill a lion without weapons could do it and once he's done it once will only get better and better at it.
    There's a big difference between spooking a lion into moving away, and actually fighting one. Can you think of a single way a man could kill a lion unarmed? And then factor in the fact that the lion is tearing you to bits while you attempt this maneouvre...


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    #112
    prinz
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    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    There's a big difference between spooking a lion into moving away, and actually fighting one. Can you think of a single way a man could kill a lion unarmed? And then factor in the fact that the lion is tearing you to bits while you attempt this maneouvre...

    First you hit him with your keyboard, then when he's dazed you confuse him with a strawman, an ad hominem and reductio ad absurdum combo, lash on a Godwin's Law and finish up with a false dichotomy. Celebrate by blasting the corpse with píss of course.

    That's how keyboard warriors usually do it.


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    #113
    ScumLord
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    sensibleken wrote: »
    i'd have to see it to believe it to be honest
    Indeed, science now demands this fight goes ahead.
    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    There's a big difference between spooking a lion into moving away, and actually fighting one. Can you think of a single way a man could kill a lion unarmed? And then factor in the fact that the lion is tearing you to bits while you attempt this maneouvre...
    Rear naked choke, the difference between a human choke and the lions killing choke is the humans will act almost instantly as we target the arteries carrying blood to the brain instead of suffocating the animal by blocking it's air.

    If you can scare the lion it should also be counted as a victory because that's how most fights are won and lost in the wild.


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    #114
    Monty Burnz
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    ScumLord wrote: »
    Indeed, science now demands this fight goes ahead.
    :pac: Agreed
    ScumLord wrote: »
    Rear naked choke, the difference between a human choke and the lions killing choke is the humans will act almost instantly as we target the arteries carrying blood to the brain instead of suffocating the animal by blocking it's air.
    So you just have to approach the lion, get past its claws and teeth, straddle it from behind, locate where the arteries carrying blood to the brain are, and apply pressure on them for long enough for it to black out? Sounds easy enough! :P
    ScumLord wrote: »
    If you can scare the lion it should also be counted as a victory because that's how most fights are won and lost in the wild.
    I can't see the lion's manager agreeing to that condition.


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    #115
    --Kaiser--
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    ScumLord wrote: »
    If you can scare the lion it should also be counted as a victory because that's how most fights are won and lost in the wild.

    If you encounter a lion in the wild the thing to do is to make a lot of noise and advance upon them; if you run, you are prey and you can't outrun a lion.

    However, I'm assuming they would be fighting in a cage. A caged lion would not run and would fight to the death*.



    *The human's


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    #116
    Show Time
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    Fishie wrote: »
    Did anyone else hear about the man who wants to fight a lion to boost Egypt's tourism?



    There has been a huge negative reaction since the story did the rounds on Twitter, resulting in various petitions to the Egyptian government and calls to boycott Egyptian products if this goes ahead. The guy hasn't been granted a permit to fight the lion in front of the pyramids at Giza, as he wants to do.

    This interview, posted online today, makes him come across as even more of a nutter. He's insisting that the fight will go ahead, despite the international reaction, and will be fought without weapons. He also says that the fight has a political message:
    I don't care how much the pay per view costs this i have to see.


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    #117
    Wossack
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    ScumLord wrote: »
    Indeed, science now demands this fight goes ahead.

    Rear naked choke, the difference between a human choke and the lions killing choke is the humans will act almost instantly as we target the arteries carrying blood to the brain instead of suffocating the animal by blocking it's air.

    If you can scare the lion it should also be counted as a victory because that's how most fights are won and lost in the wild.

    reckon if you leapt at a lion neck, it'd stick a paw in your way.. paw full of 4 inch claws that is

    dont think you'd be able to stay on the lions back long enough to knock it out either.. they can reach back there with their paws (and aforementioned claws)


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    #118
    Show Time
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    Wossack wrote: »
    reckon if you leapt at a lion neck, it'd stick a paw in your way.. paw full of 4 inch claws that is

    dont think you'd be able to stay on the lions back long enough to knock it out either.. they can reach back there with their paws (and aforementioned claws)
    A slash of one paw across the neck and it would be game over and dinner time for the lion.


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    #119
    ScumLord
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    My money on yer man anyway or if he can't do it I say we kidnap UFC fighter and have him fight the lion.

    I'm going to win so much money on this bet I just know it. :cool:


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    #120
    Agricola
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    Just reading that the average male African lion weighs in at 400 - 430 lbs. Captive animals are usually in excess of 500 lbs. Id imagine if it charged you or swiped at you, the issue of broken bones and concussion would be as big a problem as any blood loss you might sustain.
    Dont see how he could do it really!


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    #121
    --Kaiser--
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    ScumLord wrote: »
    My money on yer man anyway or if he can't do it I say we kidnap UFC fighter and have him fight the lion.

    I'm going to win so much money on this bet I just know it. :cool:

    A man wearing armour and with a spear/sword would have some (small) chance.

    An unarmed, unarmoured man would have practically zero chance unless the lion was sick, intoxicated or had no legs


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