Is it morally wrong to buy weed?

gladi8r

considering you are probably giving the money to thugs who murder people and terrorize neighborhoods, is it wrong in your opinion to buy weed?

when i talk about these "thugs" I am talking about the people on top who import the weed not the small time dealers who sell it to you

Praetorian Saighdiuir

Yes Garda but the next poster has a stash in their shed.

Krieg

Same can be applied to government, "The money I pay on taxes goes to thugs and scumbags (politicians)"

Smoke up OP

TeddyTedson

Nope, go enjoy yourself. This might be good discussion for you to have with your mates when you get high.
You could just grow it yourself like Ming if you're worried.

gladi8r

i'm just saying that the drug feuds are mainly caused by people fighting over territory in which to sell drugs to us

TeddyTedson

Supply and demand

cml387

If you are sitting there with waccy baccy in hand waiting for AH approval to light up, forget it.

AH says NO.

NO,d'ya hear!

galwayrush

It's only wrong if you get caught.

Johro

cml387 wrote: »

If you are sitting there with waccy baccy in hand waiting for AH approval to light up, forget it.

AH says NO.

NO,d'ya hear!

'Ulshter saysh NO to shodomy.'

OutlawPete

No, but it's pretty silly considering they grow all over your garden for free.

mr lee

i would say most of the weed being sold on the streets is being grown in ireland,some of it by criminals gangs/thugs and some by your average joe soap/smoker trying to make a few pound on the side.there is quite a lot of people growing it at home and who could blame them with dealers trying to pass off camel sh1t as hash,enjoy your smoke my friend.

gladi8r

OutlawPete wrote: »

No, but it's pretty silly considering they grow all over your garden for free.

thats not funny

Krieg

If you really feel bad, switch to a different dealer, I dont know any dealers affiliated with gangs because they grow their own.

galwayrush

Neighbours across the road have some plants displayed openly in their front windows..LOL

Oh_Noes

gladi8r wrote: »

considering you are probably giving the money to thugs who murder people and terrorize neighborhoods, is it wrong in your opinion to buy weed?

when i talk about these "thugs" I am talking about the people on top who import the weed not the small time dealers who sell it to you

I'd say most of the weed is grown here, and not by criminal masterminds, you only have to look at the news to see all the grow ops that are getting found by the guards.

Soapbar hash is imported but I don't think too many people smoke that anymore.

It's definitely immoral to arrest people for growing/buying it.

Praetorian Saighdiuir

gladi8r wrote: »

thats not funny

:pHa, yes it is:D:D

--LOS--

uh nope but I prefer to get it randomly in the post for free

Mike 1972

Is most weed not grown in Ireland nowadays ?

gladi8r wrote: »

considering you are probably giving the money to thugs who murder people and terrorize neighborhoods, is it wrong in your opinion to buy weed?

Probably.

But not really any moreso than buying:
1) mobile phones or laptops (conflict minerals)
2) the produce of certain multinationals who operate in countries like Columbia where Trade Unionists are routinely murdered by death squads.
3) the produce of certain countries (Israel, China and many others)
4) Oil or anything produced from oil (i.e. just about everything)

If you are troubled by the ethical implications of buying weed you do have some options
1) Abstain
2) Grow your own
3) Only buy directly from people you know who grow it.

Unfortunately when it comes to legal products there arent as many alternative options open to you.

Badgermonkey

You're certainly complicit in some of the associated misery, more pronounced in the production, consumption and distribution of coke & heroin.

Nothing morally wrong with growing your own.

Chuck Stone

I would say it's morally wrong for people to be violently kidnapped and lose their liberty because of they choose to smoke weed.

It's the state and it's stupid laws that are morally wrong in this case imo.

I would go as far as to say that people who support the prohibition of drugs are sadists or have some sort of vested interest in their staying illegal.

ArtyM

Am I the only one suspicious about 2 hash related threads started by 2 new posters, with a combined post count of 5, within minutes of each other?

Any key?

Legalise it and tax it massively like cigarettes then everyone will be happy.

sort of.

Yakult

Of course not. Most stuff is grown locally, just you'll never know about it.

A few places around my town have been raided. Nothing serious but still a few weeks supply. No doubt it will be coming from Limerick/Cork now. Not Mexico.

ArtyM wrote: »

Am I the only one suspicious about 2 hash related threads started by 2 new posters, with a combined post count of 5, within minutes of each other?

ITS A SETUP! DASH!!!

Johro

ArtyM wrote: »

Am I the only one suspicious about 2 hash related threads started by 2 new posters, with a combined post count of 5, within minutes of each other?

Or maybe the stuff just made ya paranoid:p

raah!

Just don't buy it from knackers. Or people who bought it from knackers.

pagancornflake

Can't really see how it would be morally wrong. In terms of convention, yes, but morally, no. You are violating a convention in breaking the law, but you are not necessarily committing any kind of moral transgression since manifest human harm is not contained in the law in this case.

starbelgrade

Morals, schmorals.

jill_valentine

So long as you're confident in the ethics of its production - ie. know the guy who grows it, and know what other business he's involved in - I'd say no.

But a lot of people do fool themselves about just how cuddly Their Guy is, just because he's Their Guy.

dagdha

Is it morally wrong or is it morally .......hmmm tartlets nyom nyom nyom tartlets nyom nyom nyom tartlets.

chucken1

OutlawPete wrote: »

No, but it's pretty silly considering they grow all over your garden for free.

benwavner wrote: »

:pHa, yes it is:D:D

Yes, it is funny :D:D

Tomtom364

Chuck Stone wrote: »

I would say it's morally wrong for people to be violently kidnapped and lose their liberty because of they choose to smoke weed.

Its a law. Break it, get arrested, resist violently, get arrested violently.

Reguardless of the argument around the law itsself. If something is against the law then the guards have the duty to enfore it.
If you dropped your keys, and some fellow picked them up and stole your car. Just because he belives in the law of finders-keepers dosnt mean that its morally wrong for the guards to enfore the law of the land and arrest him.
and im pretty sure you'd be pissed if they didnt.

starbelgrade

I'd love a joint now.

Console

Is it morally wrong to buy weed?

If a person doesnt have an issue with something. It will never be morally wrong to them.
Does your average person care if buying weed helps drug dealers/criminal gangs? ... No. They just care about their own interests. Weed in this case.

WoollyRedHat

gladi8r wrote: »

thats not funny

Weed out the jokesters and weed have a serious discussion.

kjl

Weed Kills!

condra

just grow your own. its effing easy.


allegedly.

Tar.Aldarion

nothing like sitting down with your fly girl and smoking the ganja, come on get with it OP

Show Time

Morals are for the week.
But if you feel that strongly about where your hard earned cash is going to end up then just grow your own and then you know where the money went.

EverEvolving

Depends on who is judging your morals really.

I would say that buying weed is a transaction between two consenting adults, however, if you are buying to keep all to yourself then you should be forever damned to moist papers.

Daegerty

Its morally wrong not to buy weed.

Weed industry needs your support

chucken1

Show Time wrote: »

Morals are for the week.
But if you feel that strongly about where your hard earned cash is going to end up then just grow your own and then you know where the money went.

Any particular one? Or the whole 52?

Tar.Aldarion

Show Time wrote: »

Morals are for the week.

So it's at the weekend you party?

Daegerty

chucken1 wrote: »

Any particular one? Or the whole 52?

First one, like new years resolutions. Try to be good for one week and to hell with the rest of the year

strobe

gladi8r wrote: »

i'm just saying that the drug feuds are mainly caused by people fighting over territory in which to sell drugs to us.

Then campaign against money and the people that use it...

Cookie_Monster

obviously....

SprayonCrayons

Well it depends on what your morals are, morals are developed by each individual. I for one do not think it's wrong at all, I buy from my cousin who grows to self medicate her MS.

I feel it's almost ("Almost" because although you can't develop a physical addiction I do believe you can develop a psychological one, as in you feel like you need it, but that can happen from overindulgence in pretty much anything) completely harmless when, as with all things, used in moderation.

To be honest I have absolutely no idea why cannabis is illegal at all, have you ever heard of anyone smoking too much weed, going home and beating his wife and kids like with alcohol? Have you ever heard of anyone ODing on weed? It's not like everybody in Amsterdam are all dying and commiting crimes because they can smoke it over there! In Ireland the law say it's illegal but not why it's illegal. Seems kinda strange to me.

SprayonCrayons

BTW any gardaí reading this, I'm completely lying marijuana is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo wrong and I only wrote that for "amusement purposes only"

jill_valentine

Aside from respiratory stuff, it has some effect on memory and possibly motor skills later on, particularly if used from a relatively young age.

It may also have a link with mental illnesses related to paranoia, but I think the correlation/ causation thing is still up for grabs on that one.

udonwannado

jill_valentine wrote: »

Aside from respiratory stuff, it has some effect on memory and possibly motor skills later on, particularly if used from a relatively young age.

It may also have a link with mental illnesses related to paranoia, but I think the correlation/ causation thing is still up for grabs on that one.

Gets you pretty stoned too

jill_valentine

And that's before we even go into the inevitable toll of all those California Cheeseburgers.

hatrickpatrick

If the government wasn't moronic enough to ban people from experiencing a totally victimless sensation then we wouldn't have this scenario in the first place. Drugs laws are the ultimate expression of the nanny state. My body, I can put whatever the f*ck I want into it.