What do you really think of transexuals?

alcomoholic

What do you think of them?
Seems to be a lot of political correctness on boards, but honestly beyond all that, what do you genuinely think of them.
If your son came home and told you he was getting a sex change, how would you feel? I for one would be absolutely humiliated and disgusted, the whole thing is just wrong in my eyes

The King of Moo

A great bunch of lads.

Kanoe

great

admiralofthefleet

alcaholism is wrong in my eyes, drinking in moderation is fine

El Weirdo

alcomoholic wrote: »

What do you think of them?
Seems to be a lot of political correctness on boards, but honestly beyond all that, what do you genuinely think of them.
If your son came home and told you he was getting a sex change, how would you feel? I for one would be absolutely humiliated and disgusted, the whole thing is just wrong in my eyes

Lol. Where?

Daegerty

A bit on the ungrateful side. Not happy with what they have

"Omg I'm a woman stuck inside in a man's body!" Srsly, get over yourself

I still wouldn't want to see them deprived of getting a sex change or whatever if thats what they so badly want to do. but why they'd want to is beyond me

Badgermonkey

Transexuals have it all.

Swiss Army Knife in human form.

alcomoholic

Daegerty wrote: »

A bit on the ungrateful side. Not happy with what they have

"Omg I'm a woman stuck inside in a man's body!" Srsly, get over yourself

now you said it brother. its all psychological from what i can see

El Weirdo

alcomoholic wrote: »

now you said it brother. its all psychological from what i can see

Well done, doctor. Now go and cure AIDS.

My name is URL

They have genes..

that's about the extent of my knowledge

Zaph

alcomoholic wrote: »

its all psychological from what i can see

No? Really? I can see you're destined to be one of the great thinkers of our time with insights like that.

Pride Fighter

alcomoholic wrote: »

What do you think of them?
Seems to be a lot of political correctness on boards, but honestly beyond all that, what do you genuinely think of them.
If your son came home and told you he was getting a sex change, how would you feel? I for one would be absolutely humiliated and disgusted, the whole thing is just wrong in my eyes

Gender Identity Disorder is a serious topic and not 'disgusting'.

Try entering the 21st century.

Wolfe Tone

Its all a bit weird and creepy to me if I'm perfectly honest.


Wouldn't wish it on anyone

MungBean

Why is it wrong? If your gonna say "its not the way nature intended ya to be" I'm pretty sure nature didnt intend for any of this **** to happen. It turned around one day and seen us clowns climbing down from the trees and said "this is gonna end badly" and so it did.

Will

I'd advise em to go seek the correct people to talk to and make sure it is what they really wanted to do, you can't just wander into a surgeon and go "hoi, see these boys? chop em!". It's a very lengthy process involving lots and lots of paper work, talking with psychologists, hormone replacement therapy etc etc before you even go for surgery. I think you also have to live as your chosen sex for at least a year also.

No doubt it'd be a shock, but I don't think I'd be ashamed of them.

Atlantic Dawn

I've no problem with someones choice to go ahead with, however how do they then fit in to society where the choice is normally male or female there is no transexual option this could proove a problem when interacting with originally born males and females who may have a problem with it. To be politically correct and respect the wishes of all there may need in future need to be choices of male, female, now a male was a female, now a female was a male so people will have no problem in changing rooms or toilets.

Daegerty

Pride Fighter wrote: »

Gender Identity Disorder is a serious topic and not 'disgusting'.

Try entering the 21st century.

Along with all the other conditions, allergies and psychological disorders that have been invented in the past number of years

I'm sure there are one or two people who you could almost say legitimately have one of these conditions, the rest are jumping on the bandwagon

Killer Wench

I really think it is a shame that we still live in such a narrow-minded world that we can't understand that each of us is created uniquely and that there are many things about the human body that we will never fully understand.

I don't think it is a superficial choice made on a whim; it certainly isn't, "gee, I'm bored with my penis, I think I am going to cut it off and tell all my friends and family that I am female now".

TheZohanS

alcomoholic wrote: »

What do you think of them?
Seems to be a lot of political correctness on boards, but honestly beyond all that, what do you genuinely think of them.
If your son came home and told you he was getting a sex change, how would you feel? I for one would be absolutely humiliated and disgusted, the whole thing is just wrong in my eyes

People used to have that attitude about gay people many years ago and now society has changed. To be honest a few months ago I hadn't a clue about transsexuals but if you take the time out to educate yourself you'll see that it's no biggie, trans people are just like you and I except they were born in the wrong body.

brimal

alcomoholic wrote: »

What do you think of them?
Seems to be a lot of political correctness on boards, but honestly beyond all that, what do you genuinely think of them.
If your son came home and told you he was getting a sex change, how would you feel? I for one would be absolutely humiliated and disgusted, the whole thing is just wrong in my eyes

OP needs to get a grip.

It's their own bodies, they can do what they like. Why should it bother you in the slightest?

Flojo

If my child wanted one It would be quite strange but if it made them feel happy and content in their own skin then I would support them 100%. People can't help how they feel, nothing wrong with it in my eyes.
As long as they're not hurting others why care?

Rud

as long as they're happy who gives a fcuk?

Pauleta

I have no issue with them. I think they are incredibly brave to make a decision like that and i admire them.

El Weirdo

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I've no problem with someones choice to go ahead with, however how do they then fit in to society where the choice is normally male or female there is no transexual option this could proove a problem when interacting with originally born males and females who may have a problem with it. To be politically correct and respect the wishes of all there may need in future need to be choices of male, female, now a male was a female, now a female was a male so people will have no problem in changing rooms or toilets.

Karl?

Wolfe Tone

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I've no problem with someones choice to go ahead with, however how do they then fit in to society where the choice is normally male or female there is no transexual option this could proove a problem when interacting with originally born males and females who may have a problem with it. To be politically correct and respect the wishes of all there may need in future need to be choices of male, female, now a male was a female, now a female was a male so people will have no problem in changing rooms or toilets.

That sounds too complicated, will a bucket do?

Cianos

alcomoholic wrote: »

What do you think of them?
Seems to be a lot of political correctness on boards, but honestly beyond all that, what do you genuinely think of them.
If your son came home and told you he was getting a sex change, how would you feel? I for one would be absolutely humiliated and disgusted, the whole thing is just wrong in my eyes

Why? It's not your body

Daegerty

I wonder if some are just lads who find it hard to get a roide and want to cross over to the other side for that reason

there is also a disproportionate amount of them crossing over from male to female which bothers me because it's like their deserting my gender, as if there is something wrong with being a man

OutlawPete

Wasn't there a thread titled: 'What do you really think of Gay people?' many moons back, which was then parodied to death?

Well, it/they seem to have disappeared, as I can't seem to find them now.

Wolfe Tone

Cianos wrote: »

Why? It's not your body

It's an issue for some people, and I guess I'll get slated for this, because there would be the 'fear' that one might inadvertently get romantically involved with someone who you have been lead to believe was born a woman.

Pride Fighter

Daegerty wrote: »

Along with all the other conditions, allergies and psychological disorders that have been invented in the past number of years

I'm sure there are one or two people who you could almost say legitimately have one of these conditions, the rest are jumping on the bandwagon

Ah yes, invented psychological disorders. Like shell shock and post traumatic stress disorder:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

bonerm

Killer Wench wrote: »

"gee, I'm bored with my penis,

Unusual choice of words.

Links234

**** this for a lark

How about Lady Gaga's video for Judas?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagn8Wrmzuc

ejmaztec

Trollsexuals need help.

Elisabeth Blanctorche

Live and let live. So long as their choices don't harm or affect you or anyone else in any way whatsoever then who really cares? I would be shocked if a child of mine told me they were , but would still love and respect them.

OutlawPete

Links234 wrote: »

**** this for a lark

How about Lady Gaga's video for Judas?

So you really think she's "bluffin with her muffin" then?

K-9

alcomoholic wrote: »

What do you think of them?
Seems to be a lot of political correctness on boards, but honestly beyond all that, what do you genuinely think of them.
If your son came home and told you he was getting a sex change, how would you feel? I for one would be absolutely humiliated and disgusted, the whole thing is just wrong in my eyes

Don't know why you'd be humiliated or disgusted, it's no reflection on you.

I don't know any transsexuals so I can't comment from the experience of knowing one, doesn't stop many.

im invisible

Killer Wench wrote: »

I don't think it is a superficial choice made on a whim; it certainly isn't, "gee!! I'm bored with my penis, I think I am going to cut it off and tell all my friends and family that I am female now".

hee hee:pac:

Le King

Some scientists believe it is completely psychological as many transsexuals suffer from depression and anxiety while also having a high suicide rate compared to heterosexuals. Perhaps those particular mental health issues arise from the publics response to these people rather than what they are doing themselves. ie the discrimination they suffer in society.

I don't believe transsexualism is a physical condition. The feeling of being a woman trapped in a mans body and vice versa is a psychological feeling, it's not a want for the the body to become gender re-assigned. Studies have also shown that transsexuals are far less social than other people. Homosexuals are now widely accepted in society whereas before their social lives would have been destroyed by the shame and guilt they were made feel by the general population.

I certainly would hate to feel like any of those people. I don't have a problem with anyone. I think some people have huge mental issues to deal with with while being discriminated against for how they feel. Can't be easy.

The King of Moo

I don't understand people who get angry at the choices of people they don't know that don't affect them.
Why waste your time and energy thinking about them?

ejmaztec

Some people aren't cut out for it.

vampire of kilmainham

couldent care less what other people do it's none of my buisness or anyone elses

Badgermonkey

Daegerty wrote: »

I wonder if some are just lads who find it hard to get a roide and want to cross over to the other side for that reason

there is also a disproportionate amount of them crossing over from male to female which bothers me because it's like their deserting my gender, as if there is something wrong with being a mani

Given your posts on the issue, you're certainly strengthening the prosecutions case.

jumpguy

I think transexualism demonstrates the classic case of people hating/fearing something they don't understand.

Think about the whole "it's psychological" case. Even if it was purely psychological, what're you meant to do? Try and force them to think they're their gender? Drugs? It'd be like if you went and thought homosexualism was just purely psychological. How palpable is to try and make homosexual people straight? Exactly. Psychological issues are not all the same, because you can cure depression, doesn't mean you can "cure" transexuals. It's a personality trait, a fundamental part of a human, and something it's not something they don't want (transgender people want to be their desired sex, whereas depressed people DON'T want to be depressed).

Note, I'm not saying it's psychological, I'm simply saying that if it was, what d'you do if it was?

Secondly, if the person is happy getting their gender changed, then what's that got to do with you? As long as someone is doing that is making them happy and it doesn't harm anyone else, does it matter what they do?

Saila

they all have lovely bottoms

Links234

OutlawPete wrote: »

So you really think she's "bluffin with her muffin" then?

aren't we all?

bonzodog2

I only know 1 personally, M-->F, not sure if they've gone the whole way yet.
It must take a great deal of courage IMO, and determination to go down that route.

flanum

it doesnt bother me but i tried workin out.. if.. so a man is born a man and feels like he's actually a woman and is attracted to men is he gay? then if he goes ahead and gets the operation and becomes a woman, does that make him straight?? also is there such a thing as a say for example.. man that feels hes a woman trapped in a mans body but has feelings for women, pre op... does that make him a lesbian or straight?? and what about the hermaphrodites??? aahhh!!! the human condition is far too complex o be labeling as "x" "y" and "z" methinks!

bonerm

Saila wrote: »

they all have lovely bottoms

Not if you mean front bottoms.

pragmatic1

Couldnt give a toss. As long as they arent hurting anyone, who cares. Hate people who think they should have a say in how other live their life. I'd never be ashamed of my kids unless they were out causing harm to other people.

pappyodaniel

A neighbour of mine is a tranny. Since the operation there was an air of confidence about him/her (still can't get used to it) but a couple of years went by and he's now on leave from his job and has spent a week in hospital being treated for depression and suicide.

I suppose there was an initial happiness in becoming the person he wanted to be. But as time went by he realised life is sh!t besides whatever gender you are.

DebDynamite

I was always totally supportive of transexuals and had no problem with it at all until I actually met one.

When I lived abroad a girl started in my job and after a while she announced she was a transexual and wanted to be known as, let's just say Tom.

She started hormone treatment changed gender on her passport to a male. Well I'm not exagerating when I say that this girl was the girliest girl you'd ever meet in interests, mannerisms, etc. There was nothing masculine about her whatsoever, except she would dress like a boy.

We we all totally supportive of her but will admit I was totally baffled as to how this girlie girl could feel like a man. How on earth did she feel she was born in the wrong body? How can someone like her know what it feels like to be a man, iykwim? She said she knew from the time she was around 16 that she was born into the wrong body. Most transexuals I'd ever heard discussing it would say they'd always felt all their lives they were born in the wrong body. I'm certainly no doctor but I said there was no way she'd ever go through with the full sex change.

Anyway, in the end she changed her mind about the whole thing. She admitted she regretted going through with it, so stopped her hormonal treatment, changed the gender on her passport back to female and started wearing dresses into work!

I'd always assumed you would have to go through rounds and rounds of psychology tests before you'd even get to the stage of hormonal treatment. I guess I was shocked at how far this person got in her treatment, when I could even tell that she'd never to through with it.

I always thought that transexuals always knew without doubt that they were were the sex they were looking to change to but meeting that person totally confused me about the whole thing.