Why is heightism given vastly less attention than feminism in the developed world?

Annasopra

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

The thread isn't about promoting heightism, it's about examining the inconsistency in the attention of heightism and feminism. I'm not too bothered either way about heightism or feminism in the developed world as I don't think they are relatively speaking that harmful now in the developed world. What I find interesting is how one gets treated so much differently than the other. IMO it comes down to people being more strongly identified with their gender than they are there height. So they become paranoid about anything that can be viewed as sexist. I think many feminists are addicted to finding something to complain about.

I think some people are just addicted to complaining about feminists and feminism and i find it very ironic when they complain that feminists are complainers

Scanlas The 2nd

Johnnymcg wrote: »

I think some people are just addicted to complaining about feminists and feminism and i find it very ironic when they complain that feminists are complainers

I could say the same about people complaining about people complaining about feminism.

As I said, I think people identify with their gender, both men and women, so that's why it gets so much attention and epic threads on boards whereas heightism doesn't seem to get under people's skin like sexism and feminism.

I think people would laugh at height quotas, whereas gender quotas actually happens.

28064212

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

The thread isn't about promoting heightism, it's about examining the inconsistency in the attention of heightism and feminism.

Except you still haven't shown that heightism actually happens. You've shown one possible symptom and claimed that means heightism is the exact same as sexism with no other evidence whatsoever.

Annasopra

28064212 wrote: »

Except you still haven't shown that heightism actually happens. You've shown one possible symptom and claimed that means heightism is the exact same as sexism with no other evidence whatsoever.

Let's face it the thread is just an excuse to whinge about feminism

Scanlas The 2nd

28064212 wrote: »

Except you still haven't shown that heightism actually happens. You've shown one possible symptom and claimed that means heightism is the exact same as sexism with no other evidence whatsoever.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Height_discrimination

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1344817

http://www.jonathanrauch.com/jrauch_articles/height_discrimination_short_guys_finish_last/

http://height-discrimination.co.tv/

http://ideas.repec.org/p/iza/izadps/dp2394.html

You haven't shown that sexism actually happens. I'm sure it does as does many different types of discrimination.

Answer this, why does the pay gap of men and women get so much attention and not the pay gap of tall and short people? In both scenarios the cause and effect haven't been pinned down, just the correlation.

looksee

This entire thread is a spectactular example of specious argument, dodgy science, wild generalisations, and the whole 'lies, damned lies and statistics' idea.

Feminism resulted from the real oppression of women, heightism is on a par with appearance-ism (similar studies have shown that better looking people are more successful in life) - possibly a hinderance if you allow it to be but no more than many other perceived impedements.

You could add 'credulism' -people who believe everything they are told in magazine articles are more likely to lose all their money to a scam.

What about weightism, people who are very overweight are taken less seriously than their less weighty neighbours.

Anyway I reckon that at five pages of nonsense, the OP has probably won his bet.

Scanlas The 2nd

looksee wrote: »

This entire thread is a spectactular example of specious argument, dodgy science, wild generalisations, and the whole 'lies, damned lies and statistics' idea.

Feminism resulted from the real oppression of women, heightism is on a par with appearance-ism (similar studies have shown that better looking people are more successful in life) - possibly a hinderance if you allow it to be but no more than many other perceived impedements.

You could add 'credulism' -people who believe everything they are told in magazine articles are more likely to lose all their money to a scam.

What about weightism, people who are very overweight are taken less seriously than their less weighty neighbours.

Anyway I reckon that at five pages of nonsense, the OP has probably won his bet.

Why is there such a drive to close the pay gap between men and women and not short and tall people? I have yet to see any evidence that women are being paid less simply because they are women. All we see is correlation similarly with tall and short people.

Computer Sci

I am not sure if I am alone in this, but I believe in accepting biological truths and limitations. One cannot make everybody equal by nature as we are not equal through the natural process of biological selection and development. Indeed, we are unequal by nature. I am not sure however if this is such a bad thing, or something to do away with through political, equality and social engineering. I am not tall, but I accept that those who are taller than me have perhaps a biological advantage in some areas – particularly when it comes to finding a certain job, but I do not mind this.

I think perhaps that it is engraved in our conscience that people who are taller than us make better leaders, and in turn garner more respect than those of smaller stature. There could very well be some form of primeval logic behind this, and I do not see a reason to try and overturn the natural order of things. I think we need to be content that we are equal in the political sense, but when it comes to other processes such as those of the biological or physical realms that we cannot streamline equality where it doesn’t exist.

It has always been that the taller members of society have more often than not been the leaders in society, and strangely unlike some others – I do not have a problem with this. We should accept our limitations, and come to terms in an adult fashion that the world is not always as we may like it or not.

srsly78

There is indeed an element of unfairness regarding peoples size. Smaller people require less food to eat, thus acquiring an unfair economic advantage as well as being more energy efficient. Clearly an economic penalty should be imposed on shorties to balance this out.

looksee

srsly78 wrote: »

There is indeed an element of unfairness regarding peoples size. Smaller people require less food to eat, thus acquiring an unfair economic advantage as well as being more energy efficient. Clearly an economic penalty should be imposed on shorties to balance this out.

They also find it easier to find clothes - there are Petite departments in many stores but very few for talls. Chain stores regard 31" as 'tall' for trouser lengths. I should be compensated for having to travel to Birmingham to buy trousers that fit.

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