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RAW 09/05 *Spoilers*

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    #32
    Eire-Dearg
    Registered Users Posts: 8,900 ✭✭✭Eire-Dearg


    Santino is hilarious.


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    #33
    GTR63
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    seanhynes wrote: »
    lance storm = ratings

    Good one whats next Hardcore Holly was a misunderstood genius.This is stupid the Commentators are pushing Ziggler but Santino & Vickie are more over than him.


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    #34
    MAJR
    Registered Users Posts: 846 ✭✭✭MAJR


    GTR63 wrote: »
    Good one whats next Hardcore Holly was a misunderstood genius.This is stupid the Commentators are pushing Ziggler but Santino & Vickie are more over than him.

    Ziggler's with Vickie so he can get over on her heat. Its the way it worked with managers all the time back before the WWE made them extinct.


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    #35
    seanhynes
    Registered Users Posts: 7,513 ✭✭✭seanhynes


    stevie richards was a misunderstood genius


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    #36
    GTR63
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    MAJR wrote: »
    Ziggler's with Vickie so he can get over on her heat. Its the way it worked with managers all the time back before the WWE made them extinct.

    Should he not get a grain of heat though, he finished Santino & nobody cared.


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    #37
    DOC09UNAM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    Truth is a better heel than face, but by god he makes no sense sometimes.


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    #38
    Liam O
    Registered Users Posts: 19,081 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    Fistpump for long enough there Ryder :D


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    #39
    :Keith:
    Registered Users Posts: 418 ✭✭:Keith:


    And Zack Ryder gets some screen time.


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    #40
    MAJR
    Registered Users Posts: 846 ✭✭✭MAJR


    GTR63 wrote: »
    Should he not get a grain of heat though, he finished Santino & nobody cared.

    Probably. But, to be honest with you, it seems that there are very few matches nowadays that the fans actually get emotionally involved in.

    I still lament the passing of the manager though. Heenan showed how great a manager could be and Estrada proved they could still be effective when used right. If the WWE had kept Estrada then I have little doubt that they could have made bigger stars out of some of their roster just by making him their mouthpiece.


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    #41
    MAJR
    Registered Users Posts: 846 ✭✭✭MAJR


    DOC09UNAM wrote: »
    Truth is a better heel than face, but by god he makes no sense sometimes.

    He's like Ultimate-Warrior-light, half the added madness.


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    #42
    GTR63
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    MAJR wrote: »
    I still lament the passing of the manager though. Heenan showed how great a manager could be and Estrada proved they could still be effective when used right. If the WWE had kept Estrada then I have little doubt that they could have made bigger stars out of some of their roster just by making him their mouthpiece.

    James Mitchell should be employed now but wwe/tna/anyone else aren't smart enough to use the guy.Alex Riley no doubt out to take a flaking from Cena.


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    #43
    Tom1991
    Registered Users Posts: 455 ✭✭Tom1991


    i really hate cena hes such a goober


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    #44
    MAJR
    Registered Users Posts: 846 ✭✭✭MAJR


    GTR63 wrote: »
    James Mitchell should be employed now but wwe/tna/anyone else aren't smart enough to use the guy.

    Estrada proved the WWE could use a manager right when he debuted with Umaga but then the WWE messed it up by letting Cena squash him and writing him off of TV when Vince McMahon feuded with Lashley, then making him ECW GM and a wrestler. I have a theory about how they should have used Estrada but I'll save that for another time. Anyway, the point was that the WWE can use managers properly they just prefer it if their managers look good in a Bikini.


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    #45
    MAJR
    Registered Users Posts: 846 ✭✭✭MAJR


    Why cant the WWE just fire Cole already?! He lost his appeal weeks ago.


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    #46
    GTR63
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    MAJR wrote: »
    Anyway, the point was that the WWE can use managers properly they just prefer it if their managers look good in a Bikini.

    Thats my biggest problem with WWE Vince would rate Sunny & Sable as managers as high as Jim Cornette.Cole vs Lawler will this feud ever just end,it got tired weeks ago.Its lazy crap but at least JR isn't get humiliated at least not this week anyway.


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    #47
    Tinie
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭Tinie


    This is a complete snooze fest...


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    #48
    GTR63
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,469 ✭✭✭✭GTR63


    What a inditement of the wwe writers that they have to drag in Lawler's late mother into this yet again to get a response from fans.


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    #49
    Tinie
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,402 ✭✭✭Tinie


    When did sheamus loose this title?


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    #50
    skeleton_boy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭skeleton_boy


    Tinie wrote: »
    When did sheamus loose this title?

    At Extreme Rules. Sheamus had been drafted to SD so it was inevitable Sheamus was going to lost it at ER


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    #51
    Headshot
    Registered Users Posts: 53,946 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Why am I not shocked randy is world champion, what load of ****e wwe is


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    #52
    MAJR
    Registered Users Posts: 846 ✭✭✭MAJR


    GTR63 wrote: »
    What a inditement of the wwe writers that they have to drag in Lawler's late mother into this yet again to get a response from fans.

    WWE seems to be turning in Russo-era WCW where writing is concerned.


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    #53
    Ridley
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    Bryan got fired for that.


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    #54
    Eire-Dearg
    Registered Users Posts: 8,900 ✭✭✭Eire-Dearg


    Another match. Woo.


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    #55
    GTR63
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    MAJR wrote: »
    WWE seems to be turning in Russo-era WCW where writing is concerned.

    This is Russo's wet dream of a Raw its been terrible.Cole getting beat in the colemine brought back a reminder of their hopeless mania match.Please let Over the Limit be the end of this feud.


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    #56
    MAJR
    Registered Users Posts: 846 ✭✭✭MAJR


    Ridley wrote: »
    Bryan got fired for that.

    Technically Lawler wasn't choking him, just pulling him against a wall using his tie.


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    #57
    Icky Thump
    Closed Accounts Posts: 937 ✭✭✭Icky Thump


    wtf????


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    #58
    MAJR
    Registered Users Posts: 846 ✭✭✭MAJR


    GTR63 wrote: »
    Cole getting beat in the colemine brought back a reminder of their hopeless mania match.Please let Over the Limit be the end of this feud.

    The only way the WWE could salvage this feud for me would be to let Lawler be Lawler and give him free reign to say whatever he likes about Cole. But then they probably haven't let him do that because Cole would be out of his depth. Given that the King was one of the quickest wits in wrestling and one of the funniest men in the business he could wipe the floor with Cole if given the chance - verbally.

    But the feud has to end with the Piledriver. I dont care if the WWE have banned it, the Piledriver is the only way to put a full stop to this whole dreadfull affair.


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    #59
    Icky Thump
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    MAJR wrote: »
    The only way the WWE could salvage this feud for me would be to let Lawler be Lawler and give him free reign to say whatever he likes about Cole. But then they probably haven't let him do that because Cole would be out of his depth. Given that the King was one of the quickest wits in wrestling and one of the funniest men in the business he could wipe the floor with Cole if given the chance - verbally.

    But the feud has to end with the Piledriver. I dont care if the WWE have banned it, the Piledriver is the only way to put a full stop to this whole dreadfull affair.

    and actually kill Cole............................ i agree:D


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    #60
    Liam O
    Registered Users Posts: 19,081 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    Well there's a guaranteed Cena win...


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    #61
    DOC09UNAM
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    Liam O wrote: »
    Well there's a guaranteed Cena win...

    Lol I thought exactly the same, they'll never let him say it :(


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