The 17 Day Diet

Mimojo

Hi all

I have just purchased "The 17 Day Diet" from Amazon, and have started the plan this week. Like many other diet plans it promises you the world, with rapid weight loss a major target. I will let you know how it goes!

It is based on a diet plan where you change every 17 days, with 4 different cycles. The first cycle I have started is very restrictive, but for 17 days I think I can put up with it.

The link to the website is here is anyone is interested.

It seems to be very popular in the US at the moment, but dont know if it has taken off here yet. I heard about it from a friend who was watching Dr. Phil of all programmes, and they guy who wrote it is off the Doctors show. I would never normally watch any of these programmes, but I know I do need to loose weight, and I just dont think I could stand constantly calorie counting and counting points. This seems very straightforward, you have certain foods you can eat, and certain amounts of some foods, thats it. You also have to add exercise on a daily basis and drink at least 2 litres of water per day plus green tea and water with lemon first thing in the morning.

I know with any diets there are pros and cons, and of course they all promise all kinds of magical solutions which they may not be able to deliver. But I do want to get healthy and loose weight, and for me this is as good a place as any to start! I know many will say "everything in moderation" and get plenty of exercise, but I just wanted a plan to stick to.

I just wondered if anyone else is trying/has tried this diet? Would love some feedback! All of the forums etc I have found so far seem to be based in the US

Thanks

rocky

Dr Phil? Sounds legit.

What's the plan for when you come off the diet?

chin_grin

rocky wrote: »

Dr Phil? Sounds legit.

What's the plan for when you come off the diet?

365 day binge! :pac:

Mimojo

Thanks so much for your constructive comments, reallllly helpful!

rocky

Mimojo wrote: »

Thanks so much for your constructive comments, reallllly helpful!

I was genuinely asking if there's anything on maintenance, or are you doing it for the rest of your life in 17 day blocks?

Mimojo

rocky wrote: »

I was genuinely asking if there's anything on maintenance, or are you doing it for the rest of your life in 17 day blocks?

The final 17 days you maintain that cycle for life. Havent read on that far but it seems to be that you watch what you eat during the week, keep the good habits you have learned such as drinking water, the times to eat certain foods etc, and then you have weekends off.

chin_grin

Mimojo wrote: »

Thanks so much for your constructive comments, reallllly helpful!

Okay...sorry.....it's just that with a strict new diet you're opening yourself up for mood swings/loss of energy and everything that relates to cutting what you're used to eating. So just be careful.

Did you do research in to what this would entail before purchasing the book and deciding to go for it?

Be sure to keep us updated because it does sound manageable! (for me).

rocky

Mimojo wrote: »

The final 17 days you maintain that cycle for life. Havent read on that far but it seems to be that you watch what you eat during the week, keep the good habits you have learned such as drinking water, the times to eat certain foods etc, and then you have weekends off.

The only specifics you give here don't make me too optimistic about the rest of the diet.

Drinking water - sure, drink when thirsty, but how is that helping you maintain weight?

Times to eat certain foods - if it's the "no carbs after 6pm" variety, it doesn't hold much truth, timing of food intake is irrelevant.

If you think you can maintain it for life, go for it.

Mimojo

chin_grin wrote: »

Okay...sorry.....it's just that with a strict new diet you're opening yourself up for mood swings/loss of energy and everything that relates to cutting what you're used to eating. So just be careful.

Did you do research in to what this would entail before purchasing the book and deciding to go for it?

Be sure to keep us updated because it does sound manageable! (for me).

Ya did research into a variety of diets before I started and knew what I was letting myself in for. I know it is not going to be easy, or course its not, its a restrictive diet, but I am motiviated to do it and hope that I can stick with it. It will be hard to give up what I am used to eating, and change my eating habits, but I really want to give this a go, I want to get healtier and loose weight, and I know I cant do that on my own.

rocky wrote: »

The only specifics you give here don't make me too optimistic about the rest of the diet.

Drinking water - sure, drink when thirsty, but how is that helping you maintain weight?

Times to eat certain foods - if it's the "no carbs after 6pm" variety, it doesn't hold much truth, timing of food intake is irrelevant.

If you think you can maintain it for life, go for it.

Well I feel from what I have read that it makes sense. Drinking water ensures that you do not retain water, and there is ample guidlines that drinking water is very good for you.

Timing of eating certain foods is important, my friend is a nutritionist and have spoken to her about this on several occasions.

I just want to try to maintain this, it is better than doing nothing and what would you suggest I do as an alternative?

Roger Marbles

Personally I would look at a more sustainable lifestyle plan, there are plenty of threads knocking about regarding the primal blueprint at the moment, and this is way more progressive than what you are doing.

Even the name "the 17 day plan" sparks up negative connotations for me. What happens after the 2 and half weeks are up? Sure it may only be advertised as a quick fix but if that's the case and you go back to your normal pattern of eating, you will end up back at square one, again looking for another 17 day plan.

Sincerely, I would advise if you're interested in being healthy, getting into great shape and feeling good for the rest of your life, then I would steer well clear and look at something like the above or paleo solution by robb wolf for example.

As for timing of eating foods, I'm with rocky here, it's not that important at all and I've met plenty of nutritionists myself to know that they often don't know their subject matter as well as they think. If your friend or you can provide scientific evidence to the contrary than I'd be more than happy to review it.

Good luck

Prop Joe

So whats the first 17 days plan?? what do you eat ?

Mimojo

Prop Joe wrote: »

So whats the first 17 days plan?? what do you eat ?

Its pretty restrictive - There is a list of vegetables that you can have an unlimited amount of including tomatoes, cucumber, brocelli, cauliflower, lettuce, scallions, onions, mushrooms, peppers, garlic, parsley, carrots, b. sprouts

Then a list of fruit that you can have 2 portions of a day including berries, plums, apples, peaches, red grapes. It says you cant eat any fruit after 2 pm.

2 portions of probiotics per day, including yogurt, probiotic cottage cheese, katult.

Up to 2 eggs, or 4 egg whites per day, recommended to have at breakfast.

An unlimited amount of chicken breast, turkey breast or mince, tinned tuna, fresh and tinned salmon and some white fish.

1-2 tablespoons of olive or linseed oil.

Limited amount of condiments inc salt, pepper, mayo, ketchup etc.

Herbs and spices can be used.

You have to have a glass of hot water with lemon in the morning, and drink 2 litres of water per day.

This is the first 17 day cycle!

What do you think??!

TommyKnocker

Mimojo wrote: »

Its pretty restrictive - There is a list of vegetables that you can have an unlimited amount of including tomatoes, cucumber, brocelli, cauliflower, lettuce, scallions, onions, mushrooms, peppers, garlic, parsley, carrots, b. sprouts

Then a list of fruit that you can have 2 portions of a day including berries, plums, apples, peaches, red grapes. It says you cant eat any fruit after 2 pm.

2 portions of probiotics per day, including yogurt, probiotic cottage cheese, katult.

Up to 2 eggs, or 4 egg whites per day, recommended to have at breakfast.

An unlimited amount of chicken breast, turkey breast or mince, tinned tuna, fresh and tinned salmon and some white fish.

1-2 tablespoons of olive or linseed oil.

Limited amount of condiments inc salt, pepper, mayo, ketchup etc.

Herbs and spices can be used.

You have to have a glass of hot water with lemon in the morning, and drink 2 litres of water per day.

This is the first 17 day cycle!

What do you think??!

My 2 cents worth, and I am certainly no expert on the subject, is that

• Firstly, I don't think that diet listed for the first 17 days is that restrictive tbh. With a few more additions I pretty much eat like this all the time anyway
• Secondly, dropping weight, and more importanltly body fat is as simple as eating less calories than you expend over a period of time.
• Thirdly, I don't agree with the "have to have a glass of warm water with lemon" rule. This sound like one of these detox notions that are bandied about. I mean if you followed the diet, but ommitted the glass of warm water with lemon will you expect to see less/no results? Of course not as there are hardly any/no calories provided by this drink that would affect the results.
• Forthly, I also disagree with the not eating fruit after 2pm. Why? What scientific evidence is there that eating fruit after 2pm is detrimental to the goal of weight loss? how is eating an apple at 13:45 different then eating that same apple at 14:30? Does my body suddenly forget how to matabolise the calories provided by fruit after 2pm? Dose fruit start to magically become more calorie dense after this time? This honestly sounds like myth or sudo science to me.
• Lastly, depending on your maintenance calorie figure, you could very well over eat with the list of foods shown above.

How many blocks of 17 days are there in this diet plan? And what extra foods are added to the other 17 day blocks? I am curious as to what extra foods you have available to you when it becomes time to maintain the weight you are happy at.

Does the diet plan explain about the requirement of having to create a calorie deficit to illicit weight (fat) loss? Or is weight (fat) loss going to magically happen no matter how many calories you consume, once to stick rigidly to the list of approved foods?

tipptom

Mimojo wrote: »

Its pretty restrictive - There is a list of vegetables that you can have an unlimited amount of including tomatoes, cucumber, brocelli, cauliflower, lettuce, scallions, onions, mushrooms, peppers, garlic, parsley, carrots, b. sprouts

Then a list of fruit that you can have 2 portions of a day including berries, plums, apples, peaches, red grapes. It says you cant eat any fruit after 2 pm.

2 portions of probiotics per day, including yogurt, probiotic cottage cheese, katult.

Up to 2 eggs, or 4 egg whites per day, recommended to have at breakfast.

An unlimited amount of chicken breast, turkey breast or mince, tinned tuna, fresh and tinned salmon and some white fish.

1-2 tablespoons of olive or linseed oil.

Limited amount of condiments inc salt, pepper, mayo, ketchup etc.

Herbs and spices can be used.

You have to have a glass of hot water with lemon in the morning, and drink 2 litres of water per day.

This is the first 17 day cycle!

What do you think??!

Mimojo,i have just purchased this book also after seeing dr Phil of all people at 4 30 in the morning,seen the book on e bay,said for 12€ its worth a shot.Was just wondering now that you are about 12 days in to your first and hardest cycle how it is going?.Also that i do not eat cooked veg like cabbage,turnips,carrots,swede and the like,is it going to make it very difficult for me?.

Mellor

It's just a low carb diet.

Unlimited meat is a silly idea. it would be far more effect to teach you about protein, and the amount you need per day and get you to aim for this

tipptom

Mellor wrote: »

It's just a low carb diet.

Unlimited meat is a silly idea. it would be far more effect to teach you about protein, and the amount you need per day and get you to aim for this

havnt got the book yet but i think its more balanced than the old atkins and i dont think they allow you unlimited meat.

woggie

Think the idea behind the 'unlimited' lean meat is that you STOP eating when full...i.e. don't shovel 2 steaks down your gob in quick succession, eat the first and wait a while - protein usually fills you up quicker anyway!

With the "no eating carbs/fruit after a certain time" ...as far as i'm aware the reasoning behind this is not that the food suddenly becomes more calorie dense but that these foods tend to make you feel hungryier and you are more likely to snack in the evening.

That's just what i've picked up from all the countless diet books i've read (and ignored :rolleyes:) over the years but i'm open to contradictions.

incidentally was watching Dr. Phil myself yesterday ... ah ya gotta love him and he mentioned this book... was curious about it but am giving the primal blueprint a go first ...what can I say i'm a serial dieter

Scrumptious

How are you getting on Mimojo?

I am just about to finish cycle 1 and move on to cycle 2 this weekend and have lost 15lbs. I have not found the plan in any way restrictive, unless you consider giving up sugary foods, fizzy drinks, alcohol and junk food restrictive.

I ran the plan by my GP and he said it sounded perfectly fine to him as food groups are gradually reintroduced and it teaches you about portion control, food groups and food going forward.

My meals would include: natural yoghurt and fresh berries or a grapefruit and actimel for breakfast. Chicken vegetable soup or a chicken or turkey salad for lunch. Roast chicken breast with steamed veg, turkey burger with salad or a cold turkey or chicken salad for dinner followed by a natural yoghurt for dessert.


TommyKnocker just in follow up to a couple of your comments;

- The hot water with lemon is recommended not mandatory.
- The no fruit after 2pm is just for the first cycle of 17 days (4 cycles in total) and the rest of the time it is just a recommendation.

The second cycle adds
beef, lamb, pork and more types of fish
natural starches such as brown rice, couscous
pulses such as chickpeas and certain beans
Fibre such as oats, muesli
More choice of fruits
Potatoes and squash
The second cycle is one day on the first, one day on the second so as to slowly get your body used to the reintroduced food.

There is then a third cycle which again adds more food types but as I am not on that one yet I can't remember it but I did note the important bit - you can have one alcoholic drink a night if wanted (though it will slow the loss down).

Depending on how much weight the person has to lose they can go back and start either cycle 1 or 2 again once they have completed cycle 3. Cycle 4 is about maintaining.

tipptom

Scrumptious wrote: »

How are you getting on Mimojo?

I am just about to finish cycle 1 and move on to cycle 2 this weekend and have lost 15lbs. I have not found the plan in any way restrictive, unless you consider giving up sugary foods, fizzy drinks, alcohol and junk food restrictive.

I ran the plan by my GP and he said it sounded perfectly fine to him as food groups are gradually reintroduced and it teaches you about portion control, food groups and food going forward.

My meals would include: natural yoghurt and fresh berries or a grapefruit and actimel for breakfast. Chicken vegetable soup or a chicken or turkey salad for lunch. Roast chicken breast with steamed veg, turkey burger with salad or a cold turkey or chicken salad for dinner followed by a natural yoghurt for dessert.


TommyKnocker just in follow up to a couple of your comments;

- The hot water with lemon is recommended not mandatory.
- The no fruit after 2pm is just for the first cycle of 17 days (4 cycles in total) and the rest of the time it is just a recommendation.

The second cycle adds
beef, lamb, pork and more types of fish
natural starches such as brown rice, couscous
pulses such as chickpeas and certain beans
Fibre such as oats, muesli
More choice of fruits
Potatoes and squash
The second cycle is one day on the first, one day on the second so as to slowly get your body used to the reintroduced food.

There is then a third cycle which again adds more food types but as I am not on that one yet I can't remember it but I did note the important bit - you can have one alcoholic drink a night if wanted (though it will slow the loss down).

Depending on how much weight the person has to lose they can go back and start either cycle 1 or 2 again once they have completed cycle 3. Cycle 4 is about maintaining.

geez,thats not filling me with confidence,looks like if you dont like turkey or chicken that you are out of luck,dont know anyone who likes grapefruit and actimal but fair play for sticking it and finding it easy,thats top results

woggie

I've no problem with grapefruit ... or actimel ... but it doesn't look like much food - yeah I know it's a "DIET"...but even so! I'd be starving after a breakfast of just a grapefruit and actimel.
Are you hungry much on it scrumptious?
15lb is a fantastic loss in 17days well done!
I'd say you're looking forward to adding a bit more variety into your daily meal plans though.

Scrumptious

They are just my choices as I am a very fussy eater and allergic to fish so don't eat any of the suggested meals that include eggs and fish.

I'd never had grapefruit, natural yoghurt or an actimel before the diet and was surprised I liked them all.

Have never been hungry in between meals which has really surprised me as I am not eating large portions of anything. I'd actually go so far as to say I haven't eaten as healthily since I lived at home, hence why the diet was needed to help me get back to a healthy lifestyle.

Mellor

woggie wrote: »

Think the idea behind the 'unlimited' lean meat is that you STOP eating when full...i.e. don't shovel 2 steaks down your gob in quick succession, eat the first and wait a while - protein usually fills you up quicker anyway!

I aware what the point is, i jsut said that it would be far better that they teach people about proper dieting.

There are more than a few people out there who are very over weight and basically morons when it comes to food. these people will read that and literally eat lots and lots of meat, and then wonder why this new diet didn't work for them.

loconnor1001

I also ordered the book after reading some reviews and doing a bit of research, trying to shed a few pounds before my Holiday in September. Any update on how you're getting on? 15 pounds is great, I know they say a lot of it is water weight in the first cycle, but its still a great boost to see the numbers on the scale drop.

tipptom

Scrumptious wrote: »

They are just my choices as I am a very fussy eater and allergic to fish so don't eat any of the suggested meals that include eggs and fish.

I'd never had grapefruit, natural yoghurt or an actimel before the diet and was surprised I liked them all.

Have never been hungry in between meals which has really surprised me as I am not eating large portions of anything. I'd actually go so far as to say I haven't eaten as healthily since I lived at home, hence why the diet was needed to help me get back to a healthy lifestyle.

Book arrived monday,going on it tomorrow after i do shopping today so hoping it works for me as it has worked for you,and am even going to try the cooked vegatables for first time and put seasoning on them,just wondering did you try the green tea and did you do much excercise.

Ouchette

From all that, it sounds like this diet basically works by forcing people to experiment with making themselves normal, healthy meals with plenty of vegetables instead of eating junk like breakfast cereals, and then packaging it all to convince them it's another magic fad diet :pac:

Might just be a stroke of genius if it persuades the serial fad-dieters to give it a go, lol.

tipptom

Ouchette wrote: »

From all that, it sounds like this diet basically works by forcing people to experiment with making themselves normal, healthy meals with plenty of vegetables instead of eating junk like breakfast cereals, and then packaging it all to convince them it's another magic fad diet :pac:

Might just be a stroke of genius if it persuades the serial fad-dieters to give it a go, lol.

You know i thiink your on the money there,myself and the OH was just saying this as we read through it the other day that it is has a type of reverse psycology about it that he is putting you on something magical and new but i dont think any doctor would have any problem with this as its all just healthy nutricious food.The catch all here is "17 DAY",but for €12 delivered if it works for me it will be the cheapest purchase i ever made but i wont be sending Dr Mike more money for his power cookie.About 4 hours in the first day and havnt folded yet!.

Scrumptious

Yeah, it really is just a lot of brain and stomach retraining put in a book that is easy to read and follow.

Now three weeks in and no problems or cravings. I am quiet a stubborn person though so if I set myself a goal I can usually get there - hence I figured this diet was the best for me as it wasn't anything unhealthy like the liquid only ones, more just about getting me back to good habits again so well worth the cost of the book (2nd hand on Amazon).

I have so far lost 19lbs and down a size in clothing. Have been having the green tea after each meal and doing limited exercise - a few short walks during the week and ab roller every few days. Also I know it is ok to have tea and coffee but I have cut out all coffee as I associated it with a muffin.

carolmon

anybody know where I can buy this book? would love to pick it up over the weekend, sounds just what I need!

loconnor1001

I tried the book stores to buy it,but had no luck. I got it for less than 8 euro on thebookdepository.com and the shipping is free.

tipptom

loconnor1001 wrote: »

I tried the book stores to buy it,but had no luck. I got it for less than 8 euro on thebookdepository.com and the shipping is free.

good buy,im only one day down but what this book has made me do is try cooked vegatables which i have never done before,it just said you got to give them a go and try to spice them up a bit which makes a big differance to your plate if you can load them on.i found a bag of frozen itialian veg in lidl which is quite nice if done in a hot wok.

loconnor1001

So, I got the book today, and will start tomorrow, I haven't read it cover to cover but I don't see milk mentioned in the first cycle at a glance. Does anyone know if small amounts of milk are ok for the coffee??

tipptom

loconnor1001 wrote: »

So, I got the book today, and will start tomorrow, I haven't read it cover to cover but I don't see milk mentioned in the first cycle at a glance. Does anyone know if small amounts of milk are ok for the coffee??

I havnt read it all either but last night i had a small cup of coffee with milk and a couple of sweetners,dont see what harm adrop of milk would be if its your only transgression,on day 3,got the low fat unflavoured youghort and put some frozen chopped berries through it,man it was the sourest thing i have ever taken,the dogs wouldnt even eat it and they will eat anything,think i will get the glenisk one with strawberry,there is natural sugar cane in it but i think it would be ok.

loconnor1001

I bought the fat free non dairy coffee creamer powder stuff today. It does the job. I also bought green tea which is disgusting The Activia yoghurts are pretty nice. You can also get greek yoghurt and mix a little bit of sugar free jam into it.

tipptom

loconnor1001 wrote: »

I bought the fat free non dairy coffee creamer powder stuff today. It does the job. I also bought green tea which is disgusting The Activia yoghurts are pretty nice. You can also get greek yoghurt and mix a little bit of sugar free jam into it.

i might get that coffee creamer stuff,i looked up about the milk on "the doctors"site,they say no dairy til the third phase,trying to find out about sweetners but its not that clear,i have a couple with the green tea in the morning to make it tolerable,are the activia sweetened and are they ok with the good book?.

loconnor1001

Sweeteners are Ok, he recommended a certain one, but we dont have it here. As far as I understand they are perfectly fine. The activia is good, as far as I understand they are fine. I read the back of the pack and it says fruit and sweeteners, if they actually make "sugar free" I would buy those, but from what I can tell the fat free ones I bought are on the programme.

tipptom

loconnor1001 wrote: »

Sweeteners are Ok, he recommended a certain one, but we dont have it here. As far as I understand they are perfectly fine. The activia is good, as far as I understand they are fine. I read the back of the pack and it says fruit and sweeteners, if they actually make "sugar free" I would buy those, but from what I can tell the fat free ones I bought are on the programme.

Yea,i will get these so,i was looking at the mostly american sites and it doesnt really translate at all what they would be talking about,when they talk abouy coffee they are talking about a couple of round pots a day.iI tried to get that kefir as well to make a smoothie butcant find it,even in the russian and polish shops.

loconnor1001

I think its just got a different kind of probiotic in it. I would just use yoghurt if you want to make a smoothie, you could try that activia pouring yoghurt, that might be good for it, I haven't ever tried it though.

Scrumptious

loconnor1001 wrote: »

I bought the fat free non dairy coffee creamer powder stuff today. It does the job. I also bought green tea which is disgusting The Activia yoghurts are pretty nice. You can also get greek yoghurt and mix a little bit of sugar free jam into it.

Yeah the powder is the best but honestly if people can't find it in the shops or can't afford it I don't think it is going to be big no no. Same with the yoghurt with sugar cane, I don't think it is supposed to be a choice (unless it is one of your fruit allowances for the day) but once you are eating healthy and in moderation that is the important thing.


Sweetners likes Canderel are fine. I don't find the green tea bad so don't add anything to it. I get the activia natural yoghurt and then add fresh or frozen berries, don't find it sour at all.


I couldn't find the kefir either and to be honest a lot of the recipes he gives are expensive if you are just making them for one so I think your own smoothie with pouring yoghurt and fruit would be better. I had been looking forward to his 'power cookies' till I looked up the ingredients and realised the costs involved - would rather stick with my oats, fruit and yogurt.


I think one of the worst things about all diets is that people feel under pressure to follow it 100% and then if they break it one day they feel like giving up and don't continue so it is important just to do as much as you can and don't worry. I had to follow the PMS part of the diet last week and it added 2lbs back on but I don't mind in the least as it did help and I am now back to the cycle 2 stage.

Scrumptious

loconnor1001 wrote: »

I think its just got a different kind of probiotic in it. I would just use yoghurt if you want to make a smoothie, you could try that activia pouring yoghurt, that might be good for it, I haven't ever tried it though.

If you like the pots of activia you'll like the pouring.

I started using the pouring last week as it worked out better value for money than the four pot back as it was on special offer in Tesco. Have the pots for taking into work as they fit in my bag, along with frozen chicken-vegetable soup (recipe in book) and use the pouring at home.

loconnor1001

I don't add anything to the green tea either, but I still think it is rotten, but then again Im not really a tea person. I will have to try the pouring yoghurt for home as well, the pots are very good for work, I didn't see the soup recipe, will have to check it out.

tipptom

Theres a vast differance in the price of tins of tuna as well,im using tescos own for 65c,dont see nothing wrong with it,then again i didnt know a whole lot about it before.Chicken breasts are very expensive,i think they trade on fatties like me having to buy them,havig a chicken for the family today so they will be finding it breastless methinks where usually i wouldnt have touched them on the chicken.I like the lunch with tuna so far,made my own type of coleslaw to go with it yesterday with a small spoonful of light mayonaise but i dont see much alternative for the lunch menu after the tuna becomes old and tired?.

loconnor1001

Unfortunately I won't eat fish of any kind including tuna and shellfish, so that leaves me with eggs, turkey and chicken for the first cycle. Turkey mince is pretty nice, have you tried that? Its around 3.50 at tesco. I guess when the Tuna gets old you will have to power through the boredom for the next 2 weeks. The 2nd cycle adds beef and pork I think, so that should be ok. I figure by the end of 17 days I should be clucking with all the chicken, but Oh well

loconnor1001

all typed BTW drinking a nice hot cup of bog water tea :pac:

Cadyboo

Have just seen this thread and looked up easons website, they sell the book.
It really seems very strict, no carb diet. Have any of you experienced headaches or anything?
Also you can get flavoured green teas, I use clippers green tea with lemon and its lovely.

loconnor1001

Its only the first 17 day cycle that doesn't have any carbs except fruit. Yes you can drink green teas with other flavours as long as there isn't sugar added. I drink green tea with lemon, they have a few other flavours at tesco. I haven't had any headaches yet, but Im only starting my 3rd day.

tipptom

Cadyboo wrote: »

Have just seen this thread and looked up easons website, they sell the book.
It really seems very strict, no carb diet. Have any of you experienced headaches or anything?
Also you can get flavoured green teas, I use clippers green tea with lemon and its lovely.

Only on day 5 and feel great so far,when i saw the menu on this site first,(you will see my post further up),i thought jesus,i wont live on this but it seems to work and i dont feel hungry at all or have had any cravings yet which is unusual for me.Have not weighed myself yet,will wait til half way i think.Will look for the turkey mince today in tescos,what did you do with it and was it for lunch or dinner.Tried the lemon tea but very strong,trid ordinary and tastes of fish,am wondering if i go for a top of the range would it be nicer.

loconnor1001

There is a lovely recipe in the book for taco salad, and its with the Turkey mince, there are also turkey burgers which I haven't tried. I have tried different green teas and I think they all taste rotten, Im assuming its one of those thing you either like or don't like. I haven't had too many cravings, but this morning when my husband was eating his buttery toast I wanted to jam a knife into his eye....but other than that its been ok

tipptom

loconnor1001 wrote: »

There is a lovely recipe in the book for taco salad, and its with the Turkey mince, there are also turkey burgers which I haven't tried. I have tried different green teas and I think they all taste rotten, Im assuming its one of those thing you either like or don't like. I haven't had too many cravings, but this morning when my husband was eating his buttery toast I wanted to jam a knife into his eye....but other than that its been ok

Know what you mean,i done a chicken sunday roast yesterday for the family with baked potatoes and they turned out nice and crispy which they dont always do for me,couldnt resist so i scooped the potato out of one and had the skin with the chicken,Dr Mike would not approve,did you weigh your self yet?.

loconnor1001

tipptom wrote: »

Know what you mean,i done a chicken sunday roast yesterday for the family with baked potatoes and they turned out nice and crispy which they dont always do for me,couldnt resist so i scooped the potato out of one and had the skin with the chicken,Dr Mike would not approve,did you weigh your self yet?.

one potato shouldn't kill you, I wouldn't think! I have not weighed myself yet, will weigh myself at the 1 week point, which will be Saturday. How about you?

tipptom

loconnor1001 wrote: »

one potato shouldn't kill you, I wouldn't think! I have not weighed myself yet, will weigh myself at the 1 week point, which will be Saturday. How about you?

Thursday,if you dont hear from me after that you can take from it that i am gone on a serious session of pints of guinness after the embarresment of my weigh in and to get my own back on Dr Mike and his stupid diet.

foodaholic

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