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Hi Guys,
I just bought my 924 and found this tread. Great that there are some guys with experience, so I decided to post a couple of questions.
First of all, there she is
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Apart from that beautiful radio, everything else is original (that was the only thing the previous owner did to the car :mad:)... Of course, this will be gone soon and will be replaced with an old Becker.
I got the baby just a couple of days ago and if any of you can help me with resolving some of the problems, I will appreciate it.
1. The cold start issue - I believe I sorted this out yesterday (the connecting cable to the warm switch was unplugged).
2. The hot start issue - will try to get it done soon (any suggestions welcome).
2. Rear boot lid pops up on rough roads and that drives me mad. I tried to adjust the jaws and pins, still unsuccessful...
3. Any of ye have a spare alloy centre cap (alloys are 15 inch, the multispokes).
4. Noisy fuel pump at the rear - is this normal?
5. I need to adjust the rear suspension (one side slightly lower than the other) and I hope that the eccentric bolt adjusters will have enough room to balance it out - any of you with an experience regarding this issue? I know, this may not be an easy task...
There are some other bits and imperfections, but other than that it is great and I am happy with it so far
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Lovin the interior lad! Although the sight of those crimps will haunt my dreams......
Re the hotstart: theres a DIY on porsche924.co.uk in the forum on hopw to fix it, a PO of my '24 fixed this for me by hooking up the 5th injector (cold start valve) to a switch in the dash so you can manually inject an extra bit of petrol to start her up if needs be.
Re the centrecap: You can bag em real cheap on ebay, I got a set of 5 for £0.99 last year!! but damn postage brought it up
Re the fuelpump: noisy usually aint normal, you should get a secondhand one no prob in UK for decent enough money. I'd recommend fixing it before you end up stranded on the side of a road.
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Thanks for your comments. The interior is generally in very good condition and after I get the silly radio out, will be even nicerLovin the interior lad! Although the sight of those crimps will haunt my dreams......
Re the hotstart: theres a DIY on porsche924.co.uk in the forum on hopw to fix it, a PO of my '24 fixed this for me by hooking up the 5th injector (cold start valve) to a switch in the dash so you can manually inject an extra bit of petrol to start her up if needs be.
Re the centrecap: You can bag em real cheap on ebay, I got a set of 5 for £0.99 last year!! but damn postage brought it up
Re the fuelpump: noisy usually aint normal, you should get a secondhand one no prob in UK for decent enough money. I'd recommend fixing it before you end up stranded on the side of a road.
Welcome to '24 ownership, there are actually quite a few of us hanging around the place now.
Just tried out the hot start and I found that the ignition key needs to be fully turned, so the ignition circuit kicks in (the starter kicks in a wee bit earlier, so if not fully turned, the ignition won't work). I will test her again and see if the issue is there. I heard about the modification with the auxiliary injector, but I would prefer not to modify anything in the car and keep it original.
Yeah, eBay is the way to go. Just bought an aerial, hatch seal, hatch lock seal and looking for more toys.
By the way - what engine oil do you use (2-litre motor)? I believe the 10W40 should do the job (I normally use 5W40 in all my veteran cars).0 -
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Thanks, the pump is sometimes quite annoyingly noisy, but I believe that's the way it is.The fuelpumps are quite noisy in the 924`s I wouldn't be worried about it.
My dog has accepted the new family member also, however he couldn't find himself at the back seats during a short spin around :rolleyes:.
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ThanksSweet its a LeMans version, I nearly bought one a while ago to go with my 1980 924 Lux..
Just an update regarding the hot start - I tested it twice at 15-20 min after hot engine shut down and it starts OK.
The most annoying thing is the rear hatch that pops out from the locking jaws. If you have any experience with sorting this out, I will appreciate it.0 -
Welcome to 924 ownership!
Does that mean you're now sorted? Lucky you!Just an update regarding the hot start - I tested it twice at 15-20 min after hot engine shut down and it starts OK.
I always though the hot/cold start thing was a bit of a misnomer. It's a warm start that really gives the problems. i.e. Car starts great from cold AND hot but leave it sit for 10 mins and you'll be cranking for ages.
I hotwired the CSV and put the push-button under the dash to bypass the issue:
Not ideal, but saves the embarrassment of looking like your car is fecked everytime you arrive out of the shops.
Your car looks great - esp the interior. Those Porsche door cards are very "desirable".
What's going on in the centre console - do you have a mid mounted speaker behind the grill?0 -
ThanksWelcome to 924 ownership!Does that mean you're now sorted? Lucky you!.
I just went outside to test the hot start again, now after 30-35 min, and I had to crank the engine for a while. Looks like this problem is in almost every car. In my one it seems to be only occasionally, but still...
After messing yesterday and trying to adjust the jaws and pins the hatch seems to be working OK for now.
Yeah, I like the interior myself, it is in good condition and a nice place to be in.
That grill on the dashboard is just lifted, as the previous owner fitted a bigger speaker there, but it is already gone and the grill in place as it should. Some mess, but will get there, as the car is a good base in my opinion.
I got the engine oil (GTX 10W40) and will be doing a small service soon. The spare oil filter has been found in the boot together with a skinny spare wheel and a jack and an electric pump for the spare wheel 
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Some service history with the car and old bills and also an old official letter (dated 1979) from Porsche regarding the uncompliant spare wheel for the UK market, etc.0 -
a skinny spare wheel and a jack and an electric pump for the spare wheel.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2znukoboOro
I have a collapsible spare wheel in both my beetle and camper. You have to carry a compressor to use them though
I'm loving your 924 Seweryn, I'm really jealous. One day I'll have one too
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Hi Trevor,trevorbrady wrote: »http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2znukoboOro
I have a collapsible spare wheel in both my beetle and camper. You have to carry a compressor to use them though
I'm loving your 924 Seweryn, I'm really jealous. One day I'll have one too
Will you hav it at the Limerick show?
Nice to hear from you.
Wow, I didn't know that the wheel actually gets into size once you inflate it.
Yeah, I like the 924 too. I wasn't sure about it at the beginning, but every day I like it more. There are a couple of issues with it, but nothing major (the radio ) and it looks fully original and I am going to keep it that way.
When is the Limerick show? I will try to make it this time, as the last summer I did not have a suitable vehicle
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It is a pain alright - and common. People can, and do, fix the issue but it involves a lot of trial and error and replacement of possible good parts with no guarantee of success. See the UK forum mentioned earlier in this thread for very concise discussions. I opted for the "bodge" route of a €2 switch which I can use to coax the car into life when it seems hesitant to fire.I just went outside to test the hot start again, now after 30-35 min, and I had to crank the engine for a while. Looks like this problem is in almost every car. In my one it seems to be only occasionally, but still...
You mention you are getting a Becker - do you mean an old FM one or one of the new fancy retro MP3 versions?There are a couple of issues with it, but nothing major (the radio) and it looks fully original and I am going to keep it that way. Might also be worth getting some new speakers for the doors, too! 0 -
Thanks, the pump is sometimes quite annoyingly noisy, but I believe that's the way it is.
My dog has accepted the new family member also, however he couldn't find himself at the back seats during a short spin around :rolleyes:.
Nice Le Mans, love the Chocolate Lab also, we have a Black Lab/Boxer mix who loves the car. I have the back seats flattened for him, as it's very handy for him to get in and out of the front that way. Yesterday he jumped onto the centre "tape holder" when he thought my son and I were heading off for a spin without him 0 -
There must be at least 5-8 924 owners here in this forum at this stage. Probably more if we count those fake 924`s (928/968/944) owners :pac:
Yeah, those Porsche 924 wannabees are jealous of us in our 'real' porsches...
/ignores VWAudi branding all over switches, engine compartment etc.... 0 -
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I will think about it. Will try to diagnose the problem first and replace the faulty part only. For now I temporarily solved the problem by... replacing the battery with a bigger one :pac: .It is a pain alright - and common. People can, and do, fix the issue but it involves a lot of trial and error and replacement of possible good parts with no guarantee of success. See the UK forum mentioned earlier in this thread for very concise discussions. I opted for the "bodge" route of a €2 switch which I can use to coax the car into life when it seems hesitant to fire.
I still have a Becker Europa from my old Beetle (the one with the rubber strips) and also a bit more modern one (Photo below):You mention you are getting a Becker - do you mean an old FM one or one of the new fancy retro MP3 versions? Might also be worth getting some new speakers for the doors, too!
Another idea is to fit a Becker radio dedicated to a Porsche. I remember the one (as on the photo below) in my friend's Beetle years ago. A lovely unit, really the one to have in car like this. I don't think I would fit anything modern into the 924...
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The Chocolate Lad is simply unbelievable. I never thought we will have so much fun with that creature. He owns every car... He likes being driven, while sitting at the back seat, like that:Nice Le Mans, love the Chocolate Lab also, we have a Black Lab/Boxer mix who loves the car. I have the back seats flattened for him, as it's very handy for him to get in and out of the front that way. Yesterday he jumped onto the centre "tape holder" when he thought my son and I were heading off for a spin without him
But who knows what he would do if you leave him alone :eek:...
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It must have been the summer of 2009. I sold that car nearly 18 months ago, but now I may attend with the 924trevorbrady wrote: »sunday 29th May, just 10 days from now. I thought I met you there last year with your Mercedes estate? Must have been the year before.... 0 -
There must be at least 5-8 924 owners here in this forum at this stage. Probably more if we count those fake 924`s (928/968/944) owners :pac:Yeah, those Porsche 924 wannabees are jealous of us in our 'real' porsches...
/ignores VWAudi branding all over switches, engine compartment etc....
LOLOL..........I see your 125bhp and raise you............an extra 115bhp.
Am I = 2 924 owner's = 1.25 944 owner's ?
And is a 928 owner = 2 x 968 owners = 4 924 owner's ?
Eh ?
Amazing how the 924 is now far more respected than it ever was when it was new. There was a lady who bought a brand new yellow one in Galway back in about 1983, and had it for years. She used to park it up on the footpath next door to our school. Wonder where that is now............. ?Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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O/T, but that is a class pic. He looks like he's thinking really hard on some Big Issue of the Day........
mmm...picture of Pet and Your Motor thread beckon's.......... Ode To The Motorist
“And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road”
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You're in luck, LIGHTNING.
I have dibs on Dades ones if he is not using hisNedKinsella wrote: »I could do with a window motor or more accurately the part driven by the motor as the plastic gear is worn in mine. Also does anybody have window switches? (Black)
I finally fixed my windows on Friday - without using those switches I'd got from eBay.
Turned out the 5-pin relay that controls the windows was knackered (the one I never knew existed that's stuck to the center console under the dash...) Anyway I've temp swapped it for a four pin from my horn and all windows are back in action - including the passenger one that never worked at all. (The 5 pin relays only allow you to close the windows with the door open and engine off).
So yeah, I'm sorted so the switches are yours if you want them. 0 -
Here ya go:I didnt know that existed! Where is it exactly so I can test my one too
In the passenger footwell, clamped to the center console area under the dash (the orangey one) - near where the back of the stereo would be. The relay beside it is for the stereo, I think.
Check this link out for the low down on the different relays.
http://porsche924.co.uk/technical/?article=17
A guy on the porsche924.co.uk forum suggested I could safely swap it with any of P, U, K or L to see if the relay was the issue. I used the horn (L on my 1983) as it was the least crucial, and success.
As a bonus I checked my rear defroster relay and that was knackered also, meaning I could also have diagnosed my winter nightmare issue!
Really hope you find this is your issue - and easy fix is the best fix!0 -
Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!Join Date:Posts: 64446
Yep old relays are the weak point on the 928 too!
About 8 or 10 of them are identical and when I solved a major issue (intermittent starting problem caused by dodgy fuel pump relay) I ordered about 15 of them from the US ($4 each) and replaced them all My ads on adverts.ie
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^^ You'd be amazed how long I spent talking on 924 forums trying to diagnose my window issues before someone finally said - have you checked the relay?
"There's a relay?!"
Everyone talking about the switches... or replacing the motor... or tracing the earths...
You live and learn. Reminds me of when I was at the end of my tether fixing my charging system and someone told me if the bulb in the dash is blown the entire circuit fails! WTF!
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^^ You don't need my switches then! Happy days for you.
The Club 92 roundabout - is that within the racecourse or the big roundabout at the end of Brewery/Lep road? (On a side note - If I could get a hold of the individual responsible for all the ramps along that sliproad from Westwood to Carrickmines Retail park I would ... be angry).0 -
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lads,
Another boardsie with a 924.
Only got it at the weekend 924 lux 1980
most stuff is working but i do have a question or 2
The water temp gauge rarely goes above the white block on the gauge only in traffic is this the norm?
Thinking of getting castrol magnetic 10-40w. would this be recommended or is there better.
any pointers on the rear window demister wire
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Congrats, deckie - looks pretty clean!
That second pic shows up a nice shade of green you can't see in the first pic.
The temp gauge on my 924 regularly gets out of the white so I'd say there's something up alright. Can you not find where the demister connector is supposed to go? If I think later I'll have a look to see where mines connected.
I'd also recommend the forums on www.porsche924.co.uk.
They look for a few quid to join the club and the technical section but they are good there and very prompt to respond to queries without any time difference issues.
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lads,
Another boardsie with a 924.
Only got it at the weekend 924 lux 1980
most stuff is working but i do have a question or 2
The water temp gauge rarely goes above the white block on the gauge only in traffic is this the norm?
Thinking of getting castrol magnetic 10-40w. would this be recommended or is there better.
any pointers on the rear window demister wire
Without wanting to resurrect a zombie thread. My brother knows the current owner of this car. The stripes are gone off it. The chap that has it like likes his vintage and modern German machinery0 -
Without wanting to resurrect a zombie thread. My brother knows the current owner of this car. The stripes are gone off it. The chap that has it like likes his vintage and modern German machinery
Good stuff. I removed the stripes.
I loved that car but as a daily for 3 years is was enough.:D:D 0 -
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