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Is they any kind of steriods or drugs in - USN Pure Protein IGF-1

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    Ingredients

    Whey protein isolate* and concentrate*, calcium caseinate*, soy protein isolate, egg albumin, lactase enzymes, MCT oil (medium chain tri-glycerides), stabiliser (cellulose gum,), flavouring, calcium (from natural milk source), cocoa powder (only in chocolate flavour, l-glutamin, fructooligosaccharides (FOS) , magnesium oxide, vitamin C (l-ascorbic acid), niacin (nicotinamide), vitamin E (d-alpha tocopherol), pantothenic acid (d-pantothenate, calcium), vitamin B6 (pyridoxine-5-phosphate), vitamin B2 (riboflavin), vitamin B1 (thiamin mononitrate), biotin (d-biotin), vitamin A(retinol), folic acid, vitamin D (cholecalciferol), vitamin B12 (cyanocobalamin), sweetener (sucralose).

    nope


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭deadlybuzzman



    IGF-1, or insulin growth factor 1, is a protein-based anabolic steroid similar to insulin that is used to increase testosterone and muscle growth in its users. As with any anabolic steroid, a number of side effects, ranging from relatively mild to serious, can result from use.



    here is the product im talking about - http://www.usnireland.ie/acatalog/pure-protein-igf-1.html

    and steroids are also illegal-when was the last time you bought something from a shop that was illegal?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 Tommy Taylor


    when was the last time you bought something from a shop that was illegal? ---- NEVER

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b6qFAyiRCU


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 500 ✭✭✭Bruce7


    and steroids are also illegal-when was the last time you bought something from a shop that was illegal?

    I bought this in a shop in town two weeks ago

    http://www.titaniummuscleusa.com/store/product-1.php?id=1

    It contains Beta ecdysterone, which is illegal. I binned it when I found out, so it was 48 quid down the drain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    Bruce7 wrote: »
    I bought this in a shop in town two weeks ago

    http://www.titaniummuscleusa.com/store/product-1.php?id=1

    It contains Beta ecdysterone, which is illegal. I binned it when I found out, so it was 48 quid down the drain.

    This is hilarious. You just threw it away?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Can someone just tell me these yokes work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭deadlybuzzman


    Bruce7 wrote: »
    I bought this in a shop in town two weeks ago

    http://www.titaniummuscleusa.com/store/product-1.php?id=1

    It contains Beta ecdysterone, which is illegal. I binned it when I found out, so it was 48 quid down the drain.

    brilliant! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭Saviola


    Bruce7 wrote: »
    I bought this in a shop in town two weeks ago

    http://www.titaniummuscleusa.com/store/product-1.php?id=1

    It contains Beta ecdysterone, which is illegal. I binned it when I found out, so it was 48 quid down the drain.


    :confused: But the same stuff is in maximuscle cyclone which is sold everywhere, even in argos for god sake.

    I would have happily taken it off your hands, stuff probably does f*ck all anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 Tommy Taylor


    It contains Beta ecdysterone, which is illegal. I binned it when I found out, so it was 48 quid down the drain.

    HE IS RIGHT THAT HE BINNED IT AS WHATS THE POINT IN TAKING THE STUFF THATS GOING TO **** U UP ITS HIS MONEY HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS

    NOW STOP SPAMMING MY THREAD PEOPLE
    NOW STOP SPAMMING MY THREAD PEOPLE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭columok


    Saying there are steroids in your protein powder is like saying there is cocaine in your energy drink. People generally don't put expensive stuff in cheap stuff (comparatively). The power of of placebo is usually enough to convince idiots of the ANABOLIC AWESOMENESS of supplements.
    HE IS RIGHT THAT HE BINNED IT AS WHATS THE POINT IN TAKING THE STUFF THATS GOING TO **** U UP ITS HIS MONEY HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS

    NOW STOP SPAMMING MY THREAD PEOPLE
    NOW STOP SPAMMING MY THREAD PEOPLE
    I hope he burnt the tub and the car he drove to the bin in. Just in case. Jesus!

    STOP BELIEVING STUPID CRAP PEOPLE
    STOP BELIEVING STUPID CRAP PEOPLE


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭KilOit


    It contains Beta ecdysterone, which is illegal. I binned it when I found out, so it was 48 quid down the drain.

    HE IS RIGHT THAT HE BINNED IT AS WHATS THE POINT IN TAKING THE STUFF THATS GOING TO **** U UP ITS HIS MONEY HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS

    NOW STOP SPAMMING MY THREAD PEOPLE
    NOW STOP SPAMMING MY THREAD PEOPLE

    Are you sure u ain't taking steroids? You seem to get really angry over nothing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭Doug Cartel


    Did you know that cholesterol is a steroid?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭gymsoldier


    Bruce7 wrote: »
    I bought this in a shop in town two weeks ago

    http://www.titaniummuscleusa.com/store/product-1.php?id=1

    It contains Beta ecdysterone, which is illegal. I binned it when I found out, so it was 48 quid down the drain.

    No comment hahaha
    here are a few pages i found with igf-1
    http://www.ehow.com/about_5343847_side-effects-igf.html
    http://www.steroid.com/Buy-IGF-1.php

    IGF-1, or insulin growth factor 1, is a protein-based anabolic steroid similar to insulin that is used to increase testosterone and muscle growth in its users. As with any anabolic steroid, a number of side effects, ranging from relatively mild to serious, can result from use.



    here is the product im talking about - http://www.usnireland.ie/acatalog/pure-protein-igf-1.html

    Isnt April Fools long over now????
    HE IS RIGHT THAT HE BINNED IT AS WHATS THE POINT IN TAKING THE STUFF THATS GOING TO **** U UP ITS HIS MONEY HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS

    Yeah because recent research has proved that Beta Ecdysterone kills instantly. That was a close one.
    Did you know that cholesterol is a steroid?

    Sure the birth control pill is a steroid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭gymsoldier


    KilOit wrote: »
    Are you sure u ain't taking steroids? You seem to get really angry over nothing

    I think its more a case of that he forgot to take his birthcontrol pill, progestogen rage!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭Doug Cartel


    gymsoldier wrote: »
    Sure the birth control pill is a steroid.
    Birth control pills are something that do cause a fairly big hormonal change though. My point was that there is a fairly broad range of things that are classed as steroids. It's actually not that unheard of for companies to put some kind of steroid/secosteroid in with an impressive sounding name in low dosage to make the product sound better. I stay away from them because I think they're a waste of money, but if you're more cautious you may stay away for other reasons.

    They don't sneak them in though, why would they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭Limousine Fred


    columok wrote: »
    Saying there are steroids in your protein powder is like saying there is cocaine in your energy drink. People generally don't put expensive stuff in cheap stuff (comparatively). The power of of placebo is usually enough to convince idiots of the ANABOLIC AWESOMENESS of supplements.


    I hope he burnt the tub and the car he drove to the bin in. Just in case. Jesus!

    STOP BELIEVING STUPID CRAP PEOPLE
    STOP BELIEVING STUPID CRAP PEOPLE

    Yea this one time the doctor gave me steroids and I was like no way man I'd rather be sick!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21 Tommy Taylor


    LOL at these stupid comments =)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Parsley


    LOL at these stupid comments =)

    lol at your silly trolling attempt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭gymsoldier


    LOL at these stupid comments =)

    Please note quote below.
    here are a few pages i found with igf-1
    http://www.ehow.com/about_5343847_side-effects-igf.html
    http://www.steroid.com/Buy-IGF-1.php

    IGF-1, or insulin growth factor 1, is a protein-based anabolic steroid similar to insulin that is used to increase testosterone and muscle growth in its users. As with any anabolic steroid, a number of side effects, ranging from relatively mild to serious, can result from use.



    here is the product im talking about - http://www.usnireland.ie/acatalog/pure-protein-igf-1.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭DL Saint


    Birth control pills are something that do cause a fairly big hormonal change though. My point was that there is a fairly broad range of things that are classed as steroids. It's actually not that unheard of for companies to put some kind of steroid/secosteroid in with an impressive sounding name in low dosage to make the product sound better. I stay away from them because I think they're a waste of money, but if you're more cautious you may stay away for other reasons.

    They don't sneak them in though, why would they?
    Yes this is quite common. Another thing that I tend to see is them making the product name itself sound like a steroid. Some good examples of this are Anabolic Halo or Anabolic Switch, which are both just creatines :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 500 ✭✭✭Bruce7


    columok wrote: »
    Saying there are steroids in your protein powder is like saying there is cocaine in your energy drink. People generally don't put expensive stuff in cheap stuff (comparatively). The power of of placebo is usually enough to convince idiots of the ANABOLIC AWESOMENESS of supplements.

    Those were my thoughts exactly, and at no point did I think this product contained any actual steroids, or anything that would have a similar effect to them. But if they are banned here - rightly or wrongly - I'm not going to take them.

    I only got rid of this stuff on the advice of someone that most people here would listen to.
    columok wrote: »
    I hope he burnt the tub and the car he drove to the bin in. Just in case. Jesus!

    STOP BELIEVING STUPID CRAP PEOPLE
    STOP BELIEVING STUPID CRAP PEOPLE

    I tend not to believe stupid crap, but am more than ready to believe that other people do, and that some things ends up being prohibited for no good reason as a result.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭deadlybuzzman


    Bruce7 wrote: »
    Those were my thoughts exactly, and at no point did I think this product contained any actual steroids, or anything that would have a similar effect to them. But if they are banned here - rightly or wrongly - I'm not going to take them.

    I only got rid of this stuff on the advice of someone that most people here would listen to.



    I tend not to believe stupid crap, but am more than ready to believe that other people do, and that some things ends up being prohibited for no good reason as a result.

    if something gets banned wrongly then why not take it?
    st johns wort is banned as is ginko biloba, echinacea is going to be soon if I hear right.
    if you lived in blacklion Co cavan it would be illegal, yet if you lived across the bridge in belcoo 100 yards away it would be perfectly legal.
    Is it geography, arbitrary laws or something else that tells you what you can and cant do?
    Call me old fashioned but I read, learn and decide as opposed to blindly following directives from a fianna FAIL government.
    The same government that had jim mcdaid as minister of health that wanting to ban creatine.......he didnt want to ban alcohol though!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 500 ✭✭✭Bruce7


    if something gets banned wrongly then why not take it?

    I can only speak for myself, but I'll be competing in some very, very low level athletics meets soon enough, and I can't imagine anything more pathetic than failing a random drugs test at one of these. For me, there would be just zero reward to justify taking even the tiniest risk in this area. So no matter how stupid it might be that something is banned, I'm not going to take it if it is.

    Anyway the only point I was making on this thread was that just because something is on sale in a shop is no guarantee that it doesn't contain banned substances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭cc87


    if something gets banned wrongly then why not take it?
    st johns wort is banned as is ginko biloba, echinacea is going to be soon if I hear right.
    if you lived in blacklion Co cavan it would be illegal, yet if you lived across the bridge in belcoo 100 yards away it would be perfectly legal.
    Is it geography, arbitrary laws or something else that tells you what you can and cant do?
    Call me old fashioned but I read, learn and decide as opposed to blindly following directives from a fianna FAIL government.
    The same government that had jim mcdaid as minister of health that wanting to ban creatine.......he didnt want to ban alcohol though!

    I think dont think WADA have it on their list of banned substances either. Id say the amount of it thats even in the stuff is so insignificant it wouldnt make any difference no matter how much you took


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭deadlybuzzman


    thats the thing-Im open to correction but last time I checked the amount of beta ecdysterone needed to have any effect was seriously expensive and the amount needed to have any effect would cost thousands.
    Course having it listed as an ingredient is no harm for sales to the 'get big quick and easy' crowd....before they give up and blame their genes for lack of size gains


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭The Guvnor


    Not discussing any brand or product.

    There are cases of CO's deliberately adding illegal components to a product to give it an edge for the first few batches and then it's pulled but by then the reputation of the product has been established.

    There is even a term of this now 'Economically Motivated Adulteration (EMA)'.

    I find the term for it funny - btw re: this EMA - not very likely in a whey product where the co's would prefer to reduce the costs by any means available.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 184 ✭✭Saviola


    I cant see it anywhere on the wada lists, from what i've seen its basically just a herb and you would need about 800-900mg of the stuff a day to do anything.

    Honestly i think if you were planning on competing i would have consulted the organisers before throwing your money down the drain because i'd say there's such an insignificant amount that it wouldn't even show up in a test......if it even is illegal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭deadlybuzzman


    Bruce7 wrote: »
    I can only speak for myself, but I'll be competing in some very, very low level athletics meets soon enough, and I can't imagine anything more pathetic than failing a random drugs test at one of these. For me, there would be just zero reward to justify taking even the tiniest risk in this area. So no matter how stupid it might be that something is banned, I'm not going to take it if it is.

    Anyway the only point I was making on this thread was that just because something is on sale in a shop is no guarantee that it doesn't contain banned substances.

    thats fair enough so-although if theres alot of other things that you have to be careful of such as cold remedys-I remember reading about 2 variants of a common over the counter medicine, 1 was brand X for colds and the other was brand x for colds and flu.
    The 1st was allowed but the 2nd wasnt as it has 1 ingredient that is banned, not only that but it goes by many long chemical names so is very easily missed even if you were being careful. If I remember correctly 2 south african rugby players are currently banned after testing positive for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭cc87


    Half the problem is that what is and what isnt banned is constantly changing, particularly when it comes to case of those substances found in cold medicines.

    I cant remember the name but there was a case recently where someone tested positive for something found cough medicine In 2009, it wasnt banned,2010 it was a serious offence and i think he got a 2 year ban but this year it isnt considered a serious offence and only brings a 6 month ban.


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