refusing to pay for a haircut?

EL_Loco

k_mac wrote: »

No, he asked for a haircut and got a haircut.

If you went for a haircut and they put your fringe between their fingers and chopped off a bit of it then held out their hand and said "pay me I've given you a haircut" would you pay?

chiefbrody1974

chiefbrody1974 wrote: »

YOU're disturbing!!!!:D

First off, I haven't made any stupid statements and I'd ask you to keep pejorative comments like that to yourself.

I am being unnecessarily pedantic, I'll admit that, but you're not grasping what I am getting at.

Yes, the OP should be aggrieved that they got a bad haircut and yes there are means by which they can address this but the solution is not worth the hassle.

I agree that people in the service industry should speak the language of their customers but they are not legally required to do so. Suggesting otherwise is false.

Staff training in DID Electrical is not a qualification of any sorts. Qualification has a specific meaning which does not cover in-house training by a junior manager in a retail store.

This is all quite off-topic now so I won't engage further other than to say that the initial legal point is being lost in this nonsense about being able to speak English.

chiefbrody1974

Deleted User wrote: »

While there may be an issue of misrepresentation they don't have to be qualified under any law or regulation that I am aware of.





Where does it say you need any English to work in the service industry?


How can you ask a waiter in Dublin city for the specials if he doesnt speak english, and cannot tell you or understand your question!!!! and since they are required to know them, he is not doing his job is he!!!!

Le King

If the haircut was generally a bad one the provider would usually offer it for free as a gesture for a mistake. However, if you feel that the service provided was of poor quality then you don't have to pay.

If that was the case they could snip a hair out and demand the fee.

Regardless, the Gardaí aren't involved here. It's a civil matter. One that definitely isn't wort pursuing.

I would never pay for a bad haircut and a good reputable barber will never charge you for a mistake on his behalf.

I imagine this was one of the €7 barbers? Usually the good ones are about €12-14 as you are paying for a better service.

The only thing you have gained from this is the knowledge not to return to that barbers again. Oh, and a bad haircut. :P

Humans eh!

I haven't been to a hairdresser since 2008.
I have always been disappointed with results as they never get it how you want it.
I always paid though and got so pissed off paying for crap service I decided to cut my own hair. The results though not fantastic are equal to any hairdresser I've been to and I have tried them all even very expensive ones.
I'm getting quite good at it now. <link (not me btw)

People genuinely don't believe that I cut my own hair when I tell them and seem to just assume that my barber is a bit lacsadasical.
But I don't give a f**k what anyone thinks of my hair anyway.

Anyhoo, I also thought OP was female!
Jeez man get over it, it was a haircut not plastic surgery. Do it yourself if its that important.
"If you cut it - It will grow" :pac:

chiefbrody1974

Deleted User wrote: »

First off, I haven't made any stupid statements and I'd ask you to keep pejorative comments like that to yourself.

I am being unnecessarily pedantic, I'll admit that, but you're not grasping what I am getting at.

Yes, the OP should be aggrieved that they got a bad haircut and yes there are means by which they can address this but the solution is not worth the hassle.

I agree that people in the service industry should speak the language of their customers but they are not legally required to do so. Suggesting otherwise is false.

Staff training in DID Electrical is not a qualification of any sorts. Qualification has a specific meaning which does not cover in-house training by a junior manager in a retail store.

This is all quite off-topic now so I won't engage further other than to say that the initial legal point is being lost in this nonsense about being able to speak English.

AHHHH finally, it was my "can I see the specials waiter?" comparison that got the point home. And it was you who brought up the english requirement issue. I accept your apolgies

chiefbrody1974

EL_Loco wrote: »

If you went for a haircut and they put your fringe between their fingers and chopped off a bit of it then held out their hand and said "pay me I've given you a haircut" would you pay?

great point, youre absolutley right but obviously there are those that would!!!

Tom Young

This thread is getting a little hairy!

coylemj

slyme wrote: »

obviously it is, i mighten even be in this mess if the person could of spoken english and no we didnt have a conversation before she cut my hair.

So you didn't speak to her before you let her cut your hair - why does it matter afterwards if you discover she can't speak English?

Most lads would tell the barber what number trimmer fitting to use on the back and sides or the barber will take a look at the guy and suggest i.e he might say 'number 4 back and sides?'.

If there was no such communication between you and the lady i.e. you choose to take your chances, then the fact that she doesn't speak English is irrelevant.

angelfire9

Tom Young wrote: »

This thread is getting a little hairy!

:D:D

Jev/N

All I want to know: how much did it cost and how was it wrong from what you wanted - simples!

Martyn1989

POST A PIC OF THE HAIRCUT!!!

Merch

slyme wrote: »

is refusing to pay for a haircut legal?

i left and the woman grabed me by the arm and said she would take a photo.

I'd be inclined to think you cant take someones picture if they decline, Im certain they cant grab you, thats assault.

@bigduffman

They have every right to refuse to show you anything. You are not a Garda or any other form of legaly recognized official that has the right to make demands of anyone.

If you are not satisfied with your haircut, you should of waited for the manager. Understandably when things get heated all you want to do is get out of there. But gestapo-like demanding of someones papers us certainly one way to escalate a situation.

If I engage the services of someone I'm entitled to ask if they are qualified, there are health and safety concerns in any job and Im sure there are some specific to barbering or hairdressing, Its at least a level 4 FETAC award.
By your rational, if I engage someone that I think to be a gas installer/or electrician I'm behaving like the Stasi if I ask to see some qualifications? I dont need to be some appointed official to ask at all.

Got a haircut recently, the bloke was not cutting it at all, more like pulling at it while clipping or the scissors was blunt, he shaved part of my head and didnt go over it, plus he kept pushing my head harshly to move it, jarring my neck, I asked him not to jar my neck, but he kept doing it, I mentioned that he just ran over my hair once with razor and left loads sticking up, he didnt seem bothered. I just told him to stop, got another person to finsih the job, paid them, She did a good job, I think she was the manager,I actually tipped her but was still pissed at the place so I wont go back.

chiefbrody1974

chiefbrody1974 wrote: »

AHHHH finally, it was my "can I see the specials waiter?" comparison that got the point home. And it was you who brought up the english requirement issue. I accept your apolgies

Yeah...sure...