The Queen is coming!

JonJoeDali

HRH is to visit Trinity College when she visits Ireland next month!

Great news! Now I wonder what kind of a reception will be laid on for her. A Fellows and academics only affair? Or will students be allowed participate too?

brownacid

Great news... Now the Gob****e protestors will have even more reasons to disrupt my finals.

So help me if there is frisking and what not on the day she comes here and it causes me to be late for an exam.


Also is it any surprise that she would visit a place that someone in her institution founded?

blubloblu

The Queen, bringing the Elizabeth back into Collegium Sacrosanctae et Individuae Trinitatis Reginae Elizabethae juxta Dublin since 1592.

amacachi

What date? Was worried in general about transport arrangements around the exams, don't need this too.

JonJoeDali

Any excuse to don my gown again.

Gae

amacachi wrote: »

What date? Was worried in general about transport arrangements around the exams, don't need this too.

She'll be here from Tuesday, May 17th to Friday, May 20th. I don't know when exactly she'll be in Trinity though.

amacachi

Gae wrote: »

She'll be here from Tuesday, May 17th to Friday, May 20th. I don't know when exactly she'll be in Trinity though.

I've exams on 3 of those 4 days, wonderful.

Brian

Maybe she'll stand in as a superintendent.

goingnowhere

As with all state visits, a trip to the Long Room is the plan to see the Book of Kells but will miss the 1641 Depositions exhibition which ended last week

Given Prince Albert of Monaco visited last week with the minimum of fuss disruption is unlikely as visits of significant heads of state are frequent in TCD

Odds are the visit will be while exams are actually on, e.g 10am so it will all be over and done with without anyone sitting an exam noticing

Monty Burnz

I thought this was going to be another David Norris thread.

JonJoeDali

goingnowhere wrote: »

As with all state visits, a trip to the Long Room is the plan to see the Book of Kells but will miss the 1641 Depositions exhibition which ended last week

Given Prince Albert of Monaco visited last week with the minimum of fuss disruption is unlikely as visits of significant heads of state are frequent in TCD

Odds are the visit will be while exams are actually on, e.g 10am so it will all be over and done with without anyone sitting an exam noticing

If it's just going to be another generic State visit, she might as well not bother coming.

When the King came 100 years ago, there was quite a fanfare. I must dig out some old photos of his visit and put 'em up here.

Pet

I'd much rather have Obama visit tbh, and let Mrs Windsor visit UCD.

amacachi

goingnowhere wrote: »

As with all state visits, a trip to the Long Room is the plan to see the Book of Kells but will miss the 1641 Depositions exhibition which ended last week

Given Prince Albert of Monaco visited last week with the minimum of fuss disruption is unlikely as visits of significant heads of state are frequent in TCD

Odds are the visit will be while exams are actually on, e.g 10am so it will all be over and done with without anyone sitting an exam noticing

I'd imagine security will have to be a little higher than usual.

oppenheimer1

I thought Cantab. had a perma ban from boards.ie?

Oasis_Dublin

Pet wrote: »

I'd much rather have Obama visit tbh, and let Mrs Windsor visit UCD.

Not at all. Obama is coming to Belfield and the auld bitch is visiting TCD. To be honest, I'd rather Obama didn't come to UCD, if it can be prevented.

getz

Pet wrote: »

I'd much rather have Obama visit tbh, and let Mrs Windsor visit UCD.

is the queen is political powerless and unimportant,or a mere cipher or constitution convenience.far from it.the indispensability of a successful monarch lies precisely in the fact that she provides a non-political identity for her country and its people,that she does not owe her office to any group of faction[unlike ireland]that she inbues the state with a ethos trancending political issues, that she influences events by example rather than command,yet in america,on the other hand there has long existed exactly the opposite kind of office,and it has failed abysmally, the president is a all-powerful elected absolute monarch,the president can treat congress,the public,and the rest of the goverment with a unchecked arrogance that has not been possible in britain since the days of the magna carta , and you rather have obama ?

Mark200

Oasis_Dublin wrote: »

Not at all. Obama is coming to Belfield and the auld bitch is visiting TCD. To be honest, I'd rather Obama didn't come to UCD, if it can be prevented.

Where did you hear Obama is going to UCD?

Kwekubo

getz wrote: »

is the queen is political powerless and unimportant,or a mere cipher or constitution convenience.far from it.the indispensability of a successful monarch lies precisely in the fact that she provides a non-political identity for her country and its people,that she does not owe her office to any group of faction[unlike ireland]that she inbues the state with a ethos trancending political issues, that she influences events by example rather than command,yet in america,on the other hand there has long existed exactly the opposite kind of office,and it has failed abysmally, the president is a all-powerful elected absolute monarch,the president can treat congress,the public,and the rest of the goverment with a unchecked arrogance that has not been possible in britain since the days of the magna carta , and you rather have obama ?

Don't want to take this too far off topic, but the Royal Prerogative grants the same swingeing power to the Prime Minister in office on behalf of the monarch.

getz

Kwekubo wrote: »

Don't want to take this too far off topic, but the Royal Prerogative grants the same swingeing power to the Prime Minister in office on behalf of the monarch.

HP sauce has appointment to the queen on it,but i doubt that the royal family has it on their breakfast table

FluffyCat

And it looks like shes coming on the 17th.

All exams moved that day

:mad:

MrPain

getz wrote: »

is the queen is political powerless and unimportant,or a mere cipher or constitution convenience.far from it.the indispensability of a successful monarch lies precisely in the fact that she provides a non-political identity for her country and its people,that she does not owe her office to any group of faction[unlike ireland]that she inbues the state with a ethos trancending political issues, that she influences events by example rather than command,yet in america,on the other hand there has long existed exactly the opposite kind of office,and it has failed abysmally, the president is a all-powerful elected absolute monarch,the president can treat congress,the public,and the rest of the goverment with a unchecked arrogance that has not been possible in britain since the days of the magna carta , and you rather have obama ?

Pet

getz wrote: »

is the queen is political powerless and unimportant,or a mere cipher or constitution convenience.far from it.the indispensability of a successful monarch lies precisely in the fact that she provides a non-political identity for her country and its people,that she does not owe her office to any group of faction[unlike ireland]that she inbues the state with a ethos trancending political issues, that she influences events by example rather than command,yet in america,on the other hand there has long existed exactly the opposite kind of office,and it has failed abysmally, the president is a all-powerful elected absolute monarch,the president can treat congress,the public,and the rest of the goverment with a unchecked arrogance that has not been possible in britain since the days of the magna carta , and you rather have obama ?

Yeh woh?

Obama was elected. He's also a minority, from a socioeconomically deprived segment of society (by dint of his race, not his upbringing, that is), and overcame much discrimination and naysaying to rise to where he did. His being the president is hugely symbolic.

Elizabeth? She was born into it, didn't have to do a thing, never had to work for what she has or her position.

Given Trinity's less-than-savoury history with regard to colonialist sympathising and access to higher education for the underprivileged, and its contemporary efforts to make amends for both, Obama would be a far more suitable visitor for modern Trinity.

In addition to the above, given UCD's nationalist origins, a visit to them by the queen would also be extremely symbolic.

Swapsies, anyone?

Groinshot

What I want to know is what happened to her surname...

JonJoeDali

Article in today's Metro - SU moaning about exams etc. Must be a slow news day.

getz

i would not knock her to much lads,most of you will be heading to her country for work

JonJoeDali

I don't know what all the fuss over exams is all about. It's going to be one of the biggest college spectacles in, arguably, a century, a day off studying and hopefully there'll be lots of sunshine, smiles and handshaking.

If you can't organise your study plan given more than a month's notice, perhaps university isn't for you. If you're going to be bitter about the Queen's visit, then please stay away and study at home to your heart's content. Nobody will miss you and nobody wants people around who are going to be a drag on the atmosphere.

FluffyCat

JonJoeDali wrote: »

I don't know what all the fuss over exams is all about. It's going to be one of the biggest college spectacles in, arguably, a century, a day off studying and hopefully there'll be lots of sunshine, smiles and handshaking.

If you can't organise your study plan given more than a month's notice, perhaps university isn't for you. If you're going to be bitter about the Queen's visit, then please stay away and study at home to your heart's content. Nobody will miss you and nobody wants people around who are going to be a drag on the atmosphere.

My issue with the exam change is that ive gone from having 3 and a half days to 17 hours time off before an exam. Given that this is my final year, I would like to think I can pass!

I dont think anyone would be hapy with that!

Besides NO one on earth is important enough to warrant a whole college be closed for a whole day for a 15 min visit imo.

And good luck to anyone trying to see her that day! The whole of the city centre will be closed down and no one will get anywhere!

Hopefully she's well warned about the cobblestones. For an older woman I can see them being quite easy to trip on. And, god forbid, we wouldn't want her to trip and hurt herself. That's the last thing any of us would want. What a shame it'd be if she tripped and hurt herself.

FluffyCat

-JammyDodger- wrote: »

Hopefully she's well warned about the cobblestones. For an older woman I can see them being quite easy to trip on. And, god forbid, we wouldn't want her to trip and hurt herself. That's the last thing any of us would want. What a shame it'd be if she tripped and hurt herself.

OMG I never thought of that:eek:

Quick, quick someone ring her security detail so she can be warned to wear sensible flats!!

But what if it rains!! Quick, we better order extra towels so we can get down on our hands and knees and dry them!! (That is after we have scrubbed the ground with a toothbrush first)

Oh I understand now why the college has to close! All the preparations to be done:rolleyes:

JonJoeDali

FluffyCat wrote: »

Besides NO one on earth is important enough to warrant a whole college be closed for a whole day for a 15 min visit imo.

Yes they are. If it wasn't for Lizzie 1, you wouldn't even be here.

FluffyCat

JonJoeDali wrote: »

Yes they are. If it wasn't for Lizzie 1, you wouldn't even be here.

Excuse me?!

I am here because of my parents...dont think lizzie had anything to do with that...maybe you should ask your mammy and daddy about the birds and the bees...your a tad confused!

I am at trinity, built long before lizzie was born, again ask your mammy and daddy about that, because it offers the course i want and for no other reason.

No one on earth should be so far up their own ajhf to think the world revolves around them!

gearoidof

FluffyCat wrote: »

Excuse me?!

I am here because of my parents...dont think lizzie had anything to do with that...maybe you should ask your mammy and daddy about the birds and the bees...your a tad confused!

I am at trinity, built long before lizzie was born, again ask your mammy and daddy about that, because it offers the course i want and for no other reason.

No one on earth should be so far up their own ajhf to think the world revolves around them!

you're an idiot, fluffy cat...

Trinity was founded by Queen Elizabeth the 1st.

bradyle

FluffyCat wrote: »

Excuse me?!

I am here because of my parents...dont think lizzie had anything to do with that...maybe you should ask your mammy and daddy about the birds and the bees...your a tad confused!

I am at trinity, built long before lizzie was born, again ask your mammy and daddy about that, because it offers the course i want and for no other reason.

No one on earth should be so far up their own ajhf to think the world revolves around them!

The current queen is Elizabeth the second...trinity was built under the reign of Queen Elizibeth the first...and its a member of her trio of colleges or something like that.

Altho i think its ridiculous that its endangering some peoples summer exams i still think the college has done the right thing...if a visit was unavoidable...can ya really say no to the queen of england...then it was better to move exams than have students trying to get into college when traffic and security will make it nearly impossible to do so.

bradyle

damn u ger u got there before me!

bythewoods

FluffyCat wrote: »

My issue with the exam change is that ive gone from having 3 and a half days to 17 hours time off before an exam. Given that this is my final year, I would like to think I can pass!

You've plenty of time to study now. If you've left all the study for one of your finals to the days beforehand then you're not doing yourself any favours anyway.

FluffyCat

gearoidof wrote: »

you're an idiot, fluffy cat...

Trinity was founded by Queen Elizabeth the 1st.

Ever hear of sarcasm?!

Clearly not!

FluffyCat

bythewoods wrote: »

You've plenty of time to study now. If you've left all the study for one of your finals to the days beforehand then you're not doing yourself any favours anyway.

I didnt leave study till the day before. Stupid

FluffyCat

Anyway im leaving this 'discussion'

Didnt realise the queens support for be disruptive was so big!

Enjoy the 'lighbulb' waving and extra study time all because of it

Kwekubo

The charter of the college may well have signed by Elizabeth I, but it is extremely unlikely that she had any significant interest in establishing a university in Dublin; it was John Loftus, Henry Ussher and other wealthy/powerful Dublin individuals who pushed for its founding by lobbying the Dublin Corporation.

gearoidof

She considered it part of her plan to extend the authority of British rule in Ireland.

Also, I doubt James Ussher had much to do with its founding in 1592!
James Ussher (4 January 1581 – 21 March 1656)

Maybe you meant Adam Loftus (c. 1533 – 5 April 1605), 1st provost of Trinity!

amacachi

-JammyDodger- wrote: »

Hopefully she's well warned about the cobblestones. For an older woman I can see them being quite easy to trip on. And, god forbid, we wouldn't want her to trip and hurt herself. That's the last thing any of us would want. What a shame it'd be if she tripped and hurt herself.

I was wondering why they were putting smooth bits down in front square, this explains it.

Fo Real

amacachi wrote: »

I was wondering why they were putting smooth bits down in front square, this explains it.

I hope this was merely a joke of bad taste and that you realise the smooth paths along the cobblestones are actually for wheelchair users

PurpleFistMixer

The smooth bits are also useful for people who don't enjoy (or find difficulty with) walking on cobblestones. Let's not let wheelchair users have a monopoly on enjoying the smooth bits, now.

mangled

hope the plane crashes, that is my opinion, call me what you like but plain and simply she should not be aloud in our country. Why would any Irishman or woman welcome this wrinkle bag?

Herself and Obama are well suited as murdering scumbags who hide behind 'politics' to justify their decisions. And to whoever said earlier in this tread that the queen was not involved in politics is simply dumb, (probably the first one to greet her too i'd imagine). She is the head of the country, everything goes through her and her awful family, political or non.

Kwekubo

gearoidof wrote: »

James Ussher

Adam Loftus

Thanks, but my point still stands.

JonJoeDali

mangled wrote: »

hope the plane crashes, that is my opinion, call me what you like but plain and simply she should not be aloud in our country. Why would any Irishman or woman welcome this wrinkle bag?

Herself and Obama are well suited as murdering scumbags who hide behind 'politics' to justify their decisions. And to whoever said earlier in this tread that the queen was not involved in politics is simply dumb, (probably the first one to greet her too i'd imagine). She is the head of the country, everything goes through her and her awful family, political or non.

You don't have to show up, so you've nothing to worry about. (nobody will miss you either).

Ahoyhoy

mangled wrote: »

hope the plane crashes, that is my opinion, call me what you like but plain and simply she should not be aloud in our country. Why would any Irishman or woman welcome this wrinkle bag?

Herself and Obama are well suited as murdering scumbags who hide behind 'politics' to justify their decisions. And to whoever said earlier in this tread that the queen was not involved in politics is simply dumb, (probably the first one to greet her too i'd imagine). She is the head of the country, everything goes through her and her awful family, political or non.

Are you a troll or have you been hiding under a rock for the past fifteen years?

Though both seem possible.

gearoidof

Kwekubo wrote: »

Thanks, but my point still stands.

It does

Ahoyhoy

The SU facebook page says the exams have reverted back to the original timetable but with different locations.

Bags of yay.

amacachi

Ahoyhoy wrote: »

The SU facebook page says the exams have reverted back to the original timetable but with different locations.

Bags of yay.

FFS, they need to stop listening to the SU.

tehjimmeh

JonJoeDali wrote: »

You don't have to show up

What are you planning on showing up to, exactly?