Irish cattle breeds

Souterrain

Hi,

Does anyone know where you can buy native breeds of cattle in Ireland?

Are they expensive? We are thinking about Dexters, but they seem very small.

I love Highland cattle, but they aren't native are they?

Sue

what happen

Souterrain wrote: »

Hi,

Does anyone know where you can buy native breeds of cattle in Ireland?

Are they expensive? We are thinking about Dexters, but they seem very small.

I love Highland cattle, but they aren't native are they?

Sue

what about the kerry breed. heard of a kerry cow living to 26 years old. or the irish moil a very nice breed. the kerry breed and the dexter breed are for sale in the irish farmers journal classifieds every week . no highland cattle are native to scotland.

bogman_bass

no Highlands are scotish.
kerrys and dexters are the two native breeds.

there is a rare breed sale in one of the marts every year but cant remember where

what happen

bogman_bass wrote: »

no Highlands are scotish.
kerrys and dexters are the two native breeds.

there is a rare breed sale in one of the marts every year but cant remember where

i think it was carnaross mart they had rare breed pigs and sheep as well.

bogman_bass

I dont think its carnaross . I think its in cavan or leitrim

cows123

There is a rare breed sale in roscommon every year.

bogman_bass

Thats the one I was thinking of!

reilig

bogman_bass wrote: »

I dont think its carnaross . I think its in cavan or leitrim

Drumshambo mart in leitrim has had them in the past, but none recently.

scub

i'd have to ask why? its a little odd to say your thinking of dexters but they seem small......

bbam

So apart from the historical and cultural value of keeping them, what is the commercial benefit of keeping either of these breeds..

Sundy

bbam wrote: »

So apart from the historical and cultural value of keeping them, what is the commercial benefit of keeping either of these breeds..

Probably not that much, but then most hobbies dont have much of a commercial benefit.

Souterrain

scub wrote: »

i'd have to ask why? its a little odd to say your thinking of dexters but they seem small......

Sorry I should have explained - they seem to be too small to be any sort of a commercial proposition.

As someone else said, a hobby doesn't have to make commercial sense, but we can't afford pet cattle either.

Irish Moiled Cattle look like a more practical option among the beef breeds, but all the indications are that it is a lot cheaper to buy them in England and import them.

Mad isn't it?

Sue

kathleenl

If you are looking for Native Irish cattle you will have to contact the Dromin Cattle Society (pronounced drom an). They are based in Kerry.

mjcom4d

Irish angus

Bizzum

mjcom4d wrote: »

Irish angus

Aberdeen Angus?????????????

mjcom4d

Bizzum wrote: »

mjcom4d wrote: »

Irish angus

Aberdeen Angus?????????????

There's Aberdeen angus and Irish angus

whelan1

mjcom4d wrote: »

There's Aberdeen angus and Irish angus

tell us more:rolleyes: we have been breeding aberdeen angus for over 20 years and have never heard of a purebred irish angus

blue5000

mjcom4d wrote: »

There's Aberdeen angus and Irish angus

FFs don't forget the canadian and australian angus as well

whelan1

blue5000 wrote: »

FFs don't forget the canadian and australian angus as well

dont leave out the irish hereford or irish charolaois :rolleyes:

mjcom4d

whelan1 wrote: »

blue5000 wrote: »

FFs don't forget the canadian and australian angus as well

dont leave out the irish hereford or irish charolaois :rolleyes:

There's two societies as far as I know when your registering everything goes down in the book as AA but there's 2 beef premiums as well one for irish angus and one for Aberdeen angus

whelan1

we are with the irish ABERDEEN ANGUS association:D

mjcom4d

whelan1 wrote: »

we are with the irish ABERDEEN ANGUS association:D

And other people are with the Irish angus

bogman_bass

2 societies mjcon4d, but same breed

mjcom4d

bogman_bass wrote: »

2 societies mjcon4d, but same breed

Alright thanks for telling me that I was always wondering because my grandad said he got 2 Irish Angus when he started and there a lot bigger than Aberdeen angus

whelan1

mjcom4d wrote: »

Alright thanks for telling me that I was always wondering because my grandad said he got 2 Irish Angus when he started and there a lot bigger than Aberdeen angus

when we started we bought in canadian angus but they are still aberdeen angus

mjcom4d

whelan1 wrote: »

mjcom4d wrote: »

Alright thanks for telling me that I was always wondering because my grandad said he got 2 Irish Angus when he started and there a lot bigger than Aberdeen angus

when we started we bought in canadian angus but they are still aberdeen angus

That's what I'm on about !!! when your filling in there number sex DOB and breed you can only put them down as AA my grandad saw some IRISH angus herd on Telly and said he got 2 cows like them when he started and they nearly had as much ad the neighbors herd of cows put together for milk

irish moiled

Does anyone have a list of irish moiled bulls available through AI, I know Pennilea Perseus is available through Eurogene, but i dont want to use him, are there any others available?

sculptor

We will have straws available from Newbridge Darragh and Aughnakeilly Jammy soon. Keep an eye on the society website and the facebook page.

Irish Moiled, Kerry, Dexter and Dhroimeann are our only remaining Irish breeds.
They were bred by our forefathers to produce very high quality milk and beef without expensive inputs, without harming the land and without the farmer having to run to the vet every other week.
As some of us have found out to our cost, if you buy in the UK you are likely to be buying someone's rejects and you dont have much comeback when you are in a different juristiction.

kboc

sculptor wrote: »

We will have straws available from Newbridge Darragh and Aughnakeilly Jammy soon. Keep an eye on the society website and the facebook page.

Irish Moiled, Kerry, Dexter and Dhroimeann are our only remaining Irish breeds.
They were bred by our forefathers to produce very high quality milk and beef without expensive inputs, without harming the land and without the farmer having to run to the vet every other week.
As some of us have found out to our cost, if you buy in the UK you are likely to be buying someone's rejects and you dont have much comeback when you are in a different juristiction.

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recedite

kboc wrote: »

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sculptor

Irish Moiled Cattle Society.

sculptor

recedite wrote: »

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1chippy

The first calf i bought was a kerry heifer calf, bought for 63 pounds 19 years ago and sold for 640 pounds springing at two years. It just brings back memories. ive only ever seen a few around and its the only one ive ever had cant say anything on the dexters and its the first time i ever heard of moils.

irish moiled

good to know they are adding to the diversity of the irish moiled bulls available through AI. anyone have any news regarding the droim fhionn breed, i know they were awaitng approval from the department to be recognoised as a seperate breed. has this approval come yet?
I find our own native breeds much better than these continental breeds. i cross my moiled bull onto continental cross cows and the weanlings sold very well.
we are very quick to ignore our own,they are hardier, lower vet costs, minimal feed inputs and when crossed with the continentals are ideal for the suckler herd or for finishing.

irish moiled

Anyone have any info on a breed of cattle called "Tyrone Black". Can't find any info

Bellview

irish moiled wrote: »

Anyone have any info on a breed of cattle called "Tyrone Black". Can't find any info

Are they a hybrid of angus ? Heard of breed a few years ago but not heard of them for a while

Bellview

1chippy wrote: »

The first calf i bought was a kerry heifer calf, bought for 63 pounds 19 years ago and sold for 640 pounds springing at two years. It just brings back memories. ive only ever seen a few around and its the only one ive ever had cant say anything on the dexters and its the first time i ever heard of moils.

Two herds in kerry. The national park and Hillards. I think the national park in muckross sell in castleisland at back end of year but better contact them directly

Bellview

blue5000 wrote: »

FFs don't forget the canadian and australian angus as well

The finish and Danes also! Simple explanation of both aa. The irish angus soc and aberdeen association are same cattle and bloodlines. The irish angus are reg in carrick, money stays in Ireland and use to promo irish breeders - looking at angus jnl just sent out 28 euro from every calf reg was spent on promo of breed. The aberdeen assoc money goes to Scotland and the Scot decide how much is spent in Ireland - which is not a lot as aaa not involved in teagasc program. I also believe the chief exec of scot soc travelled to recent world angus forum in business class.