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UN workers killed in Afghanistan

  • 01-04-2011 04:24PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    I cant think of who is worse, the US preacher who burned the Koran or the Islamic extremists who beheaded 2 of the UN workers.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0401/afghanistan.html
    At least eight foreign UN workers have been killed, two of them beheaded, in the northern Afghan city of Mazar-i-Sharif after a demonstration against the burning of Korans by a US preacher.
    'Eight foreigners were killed and two were beheaded,' said Lal Mohammad Ahmadzai, a police spokesman for the northern region.
    Over a thousand protesters had flooded into the streets of the normally peaceful city after Friday prayers, and after two or three hours violence broke out.
    A small group attacked the UN compound, throwing stones and climbing on blast barriers to try and enter.
    A police source, who declined to be named as he was not authorised to speak to the media, said protesters had stormed into the compound where they attacked the victims.
    The chief of the mission in the city was wounded but survived, and the dead included employees of Norwegian, Romanian and Swedish nationalities, he added.
    A United Nations spokesman confirmed that there had been deaths of personnel at the mission in Mazar-i-Sharif but declined to give further details, saying the situation on the ground was still confusing.
    Staffan De Mistura, the top UN representative in Afghanistan, was heading to Mazar-i-Sharif to handle the matter personally, he added.
    Thousands of demonstrators marched through western Herat city and around 200 in Kabul, but there was no violence at either protest.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    No news threads will work today


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,332 ✭✭✭RichieC


    These April fools are getting a little dark..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    I cant think of who is worse, the US preacher who burned the Koran or the Islamic extremists who beheaded 2 of the UN workers.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0401/afghanistan.html
    Well one lad burned a book, the others murdered two men... You cant tell who is worse?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,278 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    I cant think of who is worse, the US preacher who burned the Koran or the Islamic extremists who beheaded 2 of the UN workers.

    Well one is an idiot and the other is a murderer. I think murder probably just beats idiocy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    Afghan Fool?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    RichieC wrote: »
    These April fools are getting a little dark..

    Arent April fools pranks supposed to be done before midday?

    I should have put a rolling eyes smiley at the end of my original post to emphasis the sarcasm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Well one is an idiot and the other is a murderer. I think murder probably just beats idiocy.
    Only just?


    I don't know about you but I would class burning a book as being a relatively peaceful form of protest. He didn't harm anyone directly, he caused offence but no physical harm.

    Storming a military facility to kill six and behead two innocent people just because you were offended by something that someone a few thousand miles did is not only blindingly stupid but barbaric.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Svetti Arss


    Only just?


    I don't know about you but I would class burning a book as being a relatively peaceful form of protest. He didn't harm anyone directly, he caused offence but no physical harm.

    And im sure that most sane people would agree. Welcome to Islam..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    the UN is a foreign army in Afganistan so nobody's innocent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    the UN is a foreign army in Afganistan so nobody's innocent.
    Afghanistan have been members of the UN for more than sixty years...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    Afghanistan have been members of the UN for more than sixty years...

    He is confusing ISAF forces with the UN.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Don't tell me that preacher didn't get the extremist reaction he was looking for. Innocent people have died because of this attention seeking pr1ck. Whether it's a bible, the Koran or the Torah you just shouldn't burn religious books. Oh it might be his right to do so, but incitement to religious hatred is the end result.

    Of course there are plenty of extremists using Islam as an excuse for barbarity. But before we start our morale pontification and start attacking Islam. Let us not forget there many Christian extremists out there. It wasn't too long ago that our little island dripped in the blood of religious sectarian brutality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭Morlar


    Let's see . . . . .

    burning a book in a peaceful protest vs chopping peoples heads off ?

    Tough call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,129 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    Afghanistan have been members of the UN for more than sixty years...

    still though, you wear a uniform and carry a gun you're not some innocent by-standard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Personally if Jihadists wanted to suicide bomb (or you know, bomb) the Westboro Baptist Church, I'd turn the other way, for my part.

    This method however, does nothing. Wont affect the Church's rights, might spark a few protests, but thats it.

    What a horrible thing; all around.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,278 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Only just?


    I don't know about you but I would class burning a book as being a relatively peaceful form of protest. He didn't harm anyone directly, he caused offence but no physical harm.

    Storming a military facility to kill six and behead two innocent people just because you were offended by something that someone a few thousand miles did is not only blindingly stupid but barbaric.

    I was being sarcastic with the just part.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    Of course there are plenty of extremists using Islam as an excuse for barbarity. But before we start our morale pontification and start attacking Islam. Let us not forget there many Christian extremists out there.
    Perhaps but truth be told I cannot say that I have heard of Christian extremists beheading innocent people. Least of all innocent people who likely had never even heard of the man in question let alone supported him.

    Christian extremists a few hundred years ago were at times brutal. But then again, so was everyone else. This was the age where petty crime would often lead to execution.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,507 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    still though, you wear a uniform and carry a gun you're not some innocent by-standard.

    Not all UN workers are soldiers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    Backward country. Nonsense book. Bring the soldiers home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭Quiet you


    Oranage2 wrote: »
    still though, you wear a uniform and carry a gun you're not some innocent by-standard.

    The ISAF are the ones that carry arms. They were set up after a UN mandate allowed it but the UN have no control over its actions.

    UN workers are involved in helping to rebuild the country along with rehabilitating those affected by the war and educating the population, so yeah, not a shred of innocence among them.

    If they had of been armed only the ones attempting to kill them would have been killed.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Sorry did I miss something? Did they behead them because this preacher burnt a book?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,650 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    Quiet you wrote: »
    The ISAF are the ones that carry arms. They were set up after a UN mandate allowed it but the UN have no control over its actions.

    UN workers are involved in helping to rebuild the country along with rehabilitating those affected by the war and educating the population, so yeah, not a shred of innocence among them.

    If they had of been armed only the ones attempting to kill them would have been killed.

    My guess is that this would be the "crime" they commited to deserve this from those cnuting backward ass cave dwellers. Not saying all muslims are in fact I would be one to believe most aren't, but these extremist sh1theads are nothing to respect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    dlofnep wrote: »
    Sorry did I miss something? Did they behead them because this preacher burnt a book?
    Yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    It sounds a bit far fetched tbh. The Taliban don't allow foreign news or media, so how would they know about some nutters burning a book?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,759 ✭✭✭✭dlofnep


    Yes.

    Ugh... :\ That pastor is an attention seeking prick. He knew something like this would happen. Still though, people should be able to take a shíte on a picture of Mohammad if they like without people harming a single person. Extremist muslims should be sent off to the moon until they can behave like civilised people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,992 ✭✭✭✭partyatmygaff


    It sounds a bit far fetched tbh. The Taliban don't allow foreign news or media, so how would they know about some nutters burning a book?
    The Taliban no longer control all of Afghanistan. They haven't for quite some time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    Sure you should be able to burn any book you want but not when other peoples lives are at risk and that pastor knob head by his actions in far of safety of america, has the deaths of those 20 un workers on his hands .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    The Taliban no longer control all of Afghanistan. They haven't for quite some time.
    No no no, you are mistaken. The Taliban rule Afghanistan and are who the people want. The UN are only there to kill their children and steal their oil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Palmach


    Latchy wrote: »
    Sure you should be able to burn any book you want but not when other peoples lives are at risk and that pastor knob head by his actions in far of safety of america, has the deaths of those 20 un workers on his hands .

    Or maybe the hair trigger reaction of Muslims the world over to every real and imagined slight has something to do with it. Remember the Piss Christ statue.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ...... Were Christians rushing out to behead people?

    Religion of Peace anyone?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Palmach


    Latchy wrote: »
    Sure you should be able to burn any book you want but not when other peoples lives are at risk and that pastor knob head by his actions in far of safety of america, has the deaths of those 20 un workers on his hands .

    Or maybe the hair trigger reaction of Muslims the world over to every real and imagined slight has something to do with it. Remember the Piss Christ statue.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ...... Were Christians rushing out to behead people?

    Religion of Peace anyone?


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