TUF 13: Team Lesnar vs. Team dos Santos Decision Thread **SPOILERS**

SuperWoody101

Cast
Coaches

Team Lesnar

* Brock Lesnar
* Marty Morgan
* Erik Paulson
* Rodrigo Medeiros
* Greg Nelson
* Chris "Mayhem" Manos

Team dos Santos

* Junior dos Santos
* Billy Scheibe
* Luiz Dorea

Fighters

* Tony Ferguson
* Myles Jury
* Charlie Rader
* Shamar Bailey
* Nordin Asrih
* Len Bentley
* Michael Bowman
* Keon Caldwell
* Chris Cope
* Zachary Davis
* Clay Harvison
* Ryan McGillivray
* Ramsey Nijem
* Javier Torres

Started last night in the States. I'm just about to watch it now so I will post my thoughts later.

Demeyes

I just watched it there. I was a bit disappointed that they didn't have the fights to get into the house. I liked them as there was a lot of fights early on and you get a good view of the fighters styles right at the start. After that first episode, I don't really know much about any of the fighters. I was pretty impressed with JDS's level of english, didn't really think the subtitles were even necessary.
The actual fight was pretty uneventful and very one sided, I was hoping the 2nd round would be different but it was just round 1 all over again. I would have liked to have seen more drive for a finish but he got the decision easily anyway and it was a safe way to get through the first round.

calex71

Ah here are you serious ? no fights to get in , that was always the best and likely only episode really worth watching

Cherry_Cola

I was disappointed at the lack of fights to get into the house as well.

It seems kinda weird that the coaches are so nice to each other too, so far anyway. Kinda wish it was Mir instead of Dos Santos!

The preview looked good anyway, plenty of fights happening outside the cage it seems, plus the face plant into the table looks fun

Burkatron

Very lacklustre start to the season without the fights to get into the house & the fight on the show was uneventful! Nordin was manhandled for 2 rounds, it can only get better....cant it?

Both coaches came across well, Brock wasn't as big a (chest)dick as I thought he'd be, then again there's a long road ahead. As said before JDS's English was far better then expected.

The preview looked good anyway, plenty of fights happening outside the cage it seems, plus the face plant into the table looks fun

Ah the they always show ****e like that in the previews, they never really pan out that way...Unless you have Junie Browning in the house..dickhead!

....meh!

My thoughts on the first episode are pretty much summed up by my username.

Roar

what an incredibly dull opening episode. brock looks like he'd rather be anywhere else, he even said it himself at the start "i'm not here to make friends, or make new fans, this is strictly business"

very disappointing start.

Minstrel27

Guys with nothing but wrestling bore the hell out of me. This was a load of ****.

El Guapo!

Lads where are you all watching this? Is there a website where I can watch it?

ollieo

Dean09 wrote: »

Lads where are you all watching this? Is there a website where I can watch it?

I watch it on www.mma-core.com

MrStuffins

Terrible and uneventful episode.
It started off by Dana saying "Every season, the talent gets better and better". So not only was it a **** episode but it was started with blatant lies!

Also, ever notice how they show some really exciting stuff in the "This season, on The Ultimate Fighter" preview and the actual incidents turn out to be nothing?......... well......... on the preview there was ACTUALLY nothing!

I'm predicting a boring and uneventful season!

(PS: Shamar Bailey looks like a disfigured Floyd Mayweather)

rabbitinlights

The coaches didn't even turn up to announce the team picks.... what a joke.

Fromvert

MrStuffins wrote: »

Terrible and uneventful episode.
It started off by Dana saying "Every season, the talent gets better and better". So not only was it a **** episode but it was started with blatant lies!

Also, ever notice how they show some really exciting stuff in the "This season, on The Ultimate Fighter" preview and the actual incidents turn out to be nothing?......... well......... on the preview there was ACTUALLY nothing!

I'm predicting a boring and uneventful season!

(PS: Shamar Bailey looks like a disfigured Floyd Mayweather)

Dana White lying to the fans, I am shocked, maybe a little bit appalled.

jayteecork

Oh Christ, not another black carpet.

Cherry_Cola

It got the lowest ratings for an opening episode out of the last four seasons.

Bring back Kimbo!

Ian Whelan

The German guy was really terrible, It's hard to believe that somebody with basically no ground game could make it into that contest. I thought it was an impressive win considering that he was keeping it simple and just trying to get the win without taking any risks.

jayteecork

This does have the appearance of being a poor season.

No tension whatsoever between Brock and Junior.

And a black carpet in the Rashad/Michael Johnson mould looks like he's going to dominate.

FML.

Oh_Noes

Nothing against Dos Santos but I agree with one of the above posters that Mir really would have been a better choice for coach. Him and Brock would be in each other's faces all the time and the fight makes more sense too in light of Lesnar just losing the title and possibly getting another title shot after just one fight. Also if they're going to subtitle Dos Santos then they should subtitle the scouser as well.

Very poor episode, the preliminary fights in the first episode usually make it one of the best episodes of the season, and you get to see a few of the fighters that might come in if someone is injured.

El Guapo!

Does anybody know where we can see "The aftermath" videos? Every site I go onto wont let me watch it. Region blocked I think. All I can find on Youtube is this edited version. By the way look at the size of Stephan Bonnar!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sk62jWlSAo

That_Guy

I hope there's a serious improvement over the next few weeks. Really poor episode.

Know nothing about any of the fighters whatsoever bar the fact that Nordin is awful off his back.

The decision to get rid of the fights to get into the house is an awful one tbh.

Ush1

Rubbish, boring episode. Coaches seem poor also, particurlarly their instructions during the first fight.

Last episodes fight was a bit terrible to watch. The wrestling coach from Team JDS is a good coach though. Brock says "Chicken Salad outta Chicken ****" at least 7 times during that episode. Neither of the fighters listened to their coaches during the fight. That guy dropping out seriously annoyed me. His will broke after every hard training session. How he was 8-1 is beyond me.

Oh_Noes

I really liked last night's epidsode, it was a good old-fashioned TUF. The fight was decent too because it seemed like Lesnar and his team had no confidence in their fighter but he won through sheer perseverance and scrappiness. It's nice to see the underdog battling it out to win like he did. Especially after he'd been solidly caught and cut with some good clean strikes from Torres. Yeah I know, they edit it after the event and they know people like the underdog story but it was still entertaining.

Can't be good for motivation though, Lesnar shouting at his team that they're chicken **** after they just had a good win.

The whole guy-giving-up saga was a bit of entertainment on the side, again reminded me of older series, Dana White having to give the pep talk etc. Glad he went in the end, the cloud would have hungover him for the rest of the show.

More excited about this series now, I thought the St Pierre/Koscheck and Ortiz/Lidell ones were crap.

MrStuffins

YES!!!

Huge improvement this week. The fight was hardly Griffin v Bonnar but that didn't mean I wasn't incredibly entertained. I thought it was amazing to see Chris Cope grow from being nervous to even get in there and being hesitant in the forst round, to growing in confidence enough to take the second and then knowing he could win the fight in the third! I found myself really rooting for him and was delighted when he won.

And apart from the Chicken S*it comments, I think Brock has come across very well so far.

TheRevolution

I know what Lesnar means when he says we turned chicken **** into chicken salad, i.e someone who was the lowest ranked fighter in the house is now a contender but I just think Lesnar doesn't realise how offensive that can come across.

His hearts in the right place but I just worry that one of his fighters might take him up wrong.

Ian Whelan

I like Brock, I thought he motivated his man well. It has been a pretty poor season so far but I'm hopeful that it will get better.

t-ha

really glad it went to a 3rd round - turned into a good scrap in the end.

evil_seed

I wasn;t overly impressed with this episode. I thought the fight was pretty boring but I did like the change in cope. Brock calls it as he sees it which is very refreshing and he tells it calmly. He choice of words could be better but at least there's none of this shouting. I'm looking fwd to next week with Junior having a go at his assistant coach.

Gitb1

Deleted User wrote: »

How he was 8-1 is beyond me.

Apparantly only 2 of the fighters he fought previously had a positive win ratio and one of them was his loss

rivalius13

Deleted User wrote: »

Last episodes fight was a bit terrible to watch. The wrestling coach from Team JDS is a good coach though. Brock says "Chicken Salad outta Chicken ****" at least 7 times during that episode. Neither of the fighters listened to their coaches during the fight. That guy dropping out seriously annoyed me. His will broke after every hard training session. How he was 8-1 is beyond me.

Fight 8 bums.

And Brock basically bounced around the dressing room saying "Holy ****, you're TERRIBLE and you beat him, well done, but, wow, you're **** like, how'd that happen?", can't be good for morale.

evil_seed

I liked the latest episode. The fight was awesome. JDS is such a big kid, he's so funny

That_Guy

As good a wrestling coach that Brock is, he really needs to choose his words carefully sometimes.

Grinding out a win and basically being branded as sh*t even afer the fight can't be good for the morale. I'm sure he means well but he just needs to change the way he phrases things.

Better episode than last weeks, that's for sure. Looking forward to watching the latest one.

bmcc10

anyone no where i can catch up on these episodes???

themandan6611

bmcc10 wrote: »

anyone no where i can catch up on these episodes???

http://www.fightvideosmma.blogspot.com/

MrStuffins

Good episode this week. JDS is showing himself to be a really likable guy.

Fight was great and Brock continues to come across very well!

jayteecork

Haven't watched the 3rd episode but I'm just dropping in to say what a piece of s hit Brock Lesnar is.

After his guy showed amazing heart to win the bout Brock started harping on about turning chicken s hit into chicken salad right in front of his face!! you could see the poor lad was gutted.

Then his speech about "any given sunday" - he was basically implying that Cain V had "one of those days" and that his victory was some sort of fluke. Cain is a far more complete fighter than Brock. He also neglected to mention that shane Carwin beat him around the cage for 5 mins. Was Shane having another "any given Sunday" moment, Brock?

Jesus I always kind of liked the guy but not anymore, what a prick. He's a royal arsehole. I pity the nerds that were in his class in high school.

Minstrel27

That was an impressive fight. I think the wildcard is sorted too.

karl bracken

Did anyone catch what they used to cut weight?

I thought i heard he had to loose 10 pounds and lew or len not sure of his name said 40 mins in the bath would do it.

pablohoney87

karl bracken wrote: »

Did anyone catch what they used to cut weight?

I thought i heard he had to loose 10 pounds and lew or len not sure of his name said 40 mins in the bath would do it.

All I got was rubbing alcahol and a load of epson salts. Not sure what it was that looked like fairy liquid.

Then his speech about "any given sunday" - he was basically implying that Cain V had "one of those days" and that his victory was some sort of fluke. Cain is a far more complete fighter than Brock. He also neglected to mention that shane Carwin beat him around the cage for 5 mins. Was Shane having another "any given Sunday" moment, Brock?

I didnt really get it like that. Brock has been quite humble in defeat to Cain.
If Rovert were still alive hed tell ya im normally the last person to defend Brock after cowzerp and sid justice

MrStuffins

jayteecork wrote: »

Haven't watched the 3rd episode but I'm just dropping in to say what a piece of s hit Brock Lesnar is..........

Maybe you should watch the episode then, he explains what he meant by his "Chicken S*it" comments.

I actually don't see the big deal. A lot of Brock haters are jumping on this comment and using it as another excuse to give him stick. i think it was always pretty obvious what he meant by it!

That_Guy

MrStuffins wrote: »

Maybe you should watch the episode then, he explains what he meant by his "Chicken S*it" comments.

I actually don't see the big deal. A lot of Brock haters are jumping on this comment and using it as another excuse to give him stick. i think it was always pretty obvious what he meant by it!

It's easy from the outside looking in to understand what he was saying but I think some of them were a little offended by he explained it to them and kudos for it.

Fight was pretty good. Better than the last two for sure. Ryan seems like a very likable character and was hoping he'd win it.

Would've preferred it to go to a third round though.

And also as expected, that whole incident with Shamar getting cut was made out to be more dramatic than it actually was.

Series seems to be picking up a bit of momentum so hopefully it can continue this week.

El Guapo!

Much better episode than last week. Really good fight too. Ryan seems to be a decent guy and he's the only one we really got to know so far apart from Cope.
I've always liked Brock and he seems to be coming across well enough apart from the chicken sh1t comments which he explained. Although the fighters did have every right to be píssed off originally, I know I would've been annoyed.
Its shaping up to be a decent season. Hate the way they blow everything out of proportion though in the previews for the next week,- like when JDS was giving out to Lew about his training methods, it was made out to be a big argument but turned out to be nothing.

karl bracken

karl bracken wrote: »

Did anyone catch what they used to cut weight?

I thought i heard he had to loose 10 pounds and lew or len not sure of his name said 40 mins in the bath would do it.

Boxing coach taught us this one... guess Lew made it his own

"The Polley Plunge"

Part 1

4-6 bottles of Green Rubbing Alcohol
3-4 bags of Epson salt
Add water as HOT as you can handle
Cover your body in Abolene
Soak for 20-30 minutes
Part 2

Immediately put on sauna suit and sweats
Put on beanie
Lie on the floor under a blanket for 15-20 minutes

jayteecork

MrStuffins wrote: »

Maybe you should watch the episode then, he explains what he meant by his "Chicken S*it" comments.

I actually don't see the big deal. A lot of Brock haters are jumping on this comment and using it as another excuse to give him stick. i think it was always pretty obvious what he meant by it!

That's a pile of crap. I just watched episode 3.

Brock was calling his team chicken s hit constantly to the camera before the second fight, writing off his guy Chris' chances.

He made up that bulls hit excuse after he became aware that it was causing a serious morale drop in his camp.

I'm behind Ryan this season. Seems like a hell of a nice guy and moves very well in the ring.

Ush1

Episode 3 was a decent back and forth fight.

JDS is a class act but his instructions during a fight don't seem to be up to much to be honest. Maybe it's a language barrier thing.

Brock to me is like a guy that does not want to be there. I don't mind him at all but he doesn't want to be on camera and doing this type of thing IMO.

seadnamac

jayteecork wrote: »

Haven't watched the 3rd episode but I'm just dropping in to say what a piece of s hit Brock Lesnar is.

After his guy showed amazing heart to win the bout Brock started harping on about turning chicken s hit into chicken salad right in front of his face!! you could see the poor lad was gutted.

Then his speech about "any given sunday" - he was basically implying that Cain V had "one of those days" and that his victory was some sort of fluke. Cain is a far more complete fighter than Brock. He also neglected to mention that shane Carwin beat him around the cage for 5 mins. Was Shane having another "any given Sunday" moment, Brock?

Jesus I always kind of liked the guy but not anymore, what a prick. He's a royal arsehole. I pity the nerds that were in his class in high school.

So I take it fighter bashing is allowed when it's Brock Lesnar that's involved? There's a surprise.

mdwexford

jayteecork wrote: »

Haven't watched the 3rd episode but I'm just dropping in to say what a piece of s hit Brock Lesnar is.

After his guy showed amazing heart to win the bout Brock started harping on about turning chicken s hit into chicken salad right in front of his face!! you could see the poor lad was gutted.

Then his speech about "any given sunday" - he was basically implying that Cain V had "one of those days" and that his victory was some sort of fluke. Cain is a far more complete fighter than Brock. He also neglected to mention that shane Carwin beat him around the cage for 5 mins. Was Shane having another "any given Sunday" moment, Brock?

Jesus I always kind of liked the guy but not anymore, what a prick. He's a royal arsehole. I pity the nerds that were in his class in high school.

No he wasnt, huge fail here, ul.

welchy

They're showing the new episodes of TUF on ESPN on Thursdays at 10pm. So its only a 1 day delay from the US:)

MrStuffins

Another poor episode. Was also a very very poor fight!

But the worst thing about it for me, that was the QUICKEST tap i've ever seen! Art Jimmerson has nothing on this dude! He never wanted to be in that cage and was just waiting for an excuse to get out of there!

MrStuffins

MrStuffins wrote: »

Another poor episode. Was also a very very poor fight!

But the worst thing about it for me, that was the QUICKEST tap i've ever seen! Art Jimmerson has nothing on this dude! He never wanted to be in that cage and was just waiting for an excuse to get out of there!

Wouldn't speak too soon on this, he was face down and had a badly injured shoulder so I think it's edited to look like Brock has a team of quitters if you get me. I doubt anyone would tap that quickly without another type of pain influencing them.

rabbitinlights

This season is getting worse and worse..... I'm not going to watch it every week now, gonna get it all before the final to catch up on the fights.

S.