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Tipping at the hairdressers????

  • 30-03-2011 9:01pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 maggot12345


    I'm going to a new hairdressers tomorrow where it will cost roughly 110 / 120 euro for a cut and colour--just wondering how much to tip if I'm happy with it??What do any of you tip?? tHANKS


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    I don't get my hair coloured but pay 51 for a wash, cut and blowdry. Always pay by card so they get nothing. They trim my fringe for free though so I usually throw them a fiver. I definitely wouldn't give them anything if I was paying over €100...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Ellie2008


    I was only told by a friend a couple of years ago that you're supposed to tip hairdressers, imagine I was morto when I thought of all the ones I hadnt tipped. €120 like wow are you in Dublin? Citydeals have some great prices in designer hair places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,016 ✭✭✭Blush_01


    My cut and colour is over €120. Cut alone is €40. I tend to go with the 10% rule, and then round it to the next €5, so €120 is a €15 or €20 tip, depending on what kind of notes I have in my wallet. At least I used to. Will be dying my hair myself again for the foreseeable future, I can't justify that kind of expenditure when my hair is this short - I'm getting my hair cut at least every 8 weeks, which means that with colour I'm talking about nearly €750 a year before tip - or over €800 with a basic tip. Scary when you write it down like that isn't it! :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Themadhouse


    Generally a tip is well recieved although not expected. I always tip t least a fiver.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 758 ✭✭✭whydoibother?


    I hate that moment. Doing it seems patronizing. Not doing it seems cheap. I wish they would include it in the price, not that I'd enjoy forking out extra. But I prefer "service included" type arrangements.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Aishae


    ive never done it - i didnt even realise you were 'supposed' to until a few years ago. but the price in salons is just ridiculous so i dont feel i want to tip too. i know the hairdresser doesnt get much of the cost i pay to get it done but its just too much. it all adds up. i dont go often though, i usually ask my dad to do it in exchange for a cup of coffee or a pack of cigs,lol.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Umm what? You're supposed to do it? Says who?

    They're still not getting anything from me. I'm great at my job and no one ever tips me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Themadhouse


    It is not an obligation, it is as i have said gratefully recieved. As with any service it is optional. If you are in the US or Canada it would be an automatic 15%, here it is optional.
    It's still a service like, barman, lounge staff, waitress, plumber etc. Some you tip some you dont.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭Halo Kitty


    if the cost of the trip to the hair dressers was not so expensive i would think about tipping, but alas paying someone €40 for a wash trim i feel that is more than enough....times like this i wish i was a guy ..and get away with paying a hell of a lot less..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Aishae


    i tip in a fancy restaurant where you get table service and i usually tip a taxi driver - but while hairdressers provide a service its one you pay for (them cutting your hair) its a bit different to a waitress taking orders bringing food etc. where shes sort of the middleman. ive only ever gonbe to a salon for wash cut blowdry though, nothing particularly specialist (like highlights, colour, perm etc)

    i would hate it if it was tacked on to the bill as a service charge because i want the option to tip or not. ive been to a retaurant a few times with friends - where the service charge is tacked on to the bill - and the others still left a tip on the table as well. maybe they wondered if the actual waitress gets the tip or if its divvied out at the end of the day.

    like someone mentioned about the usa - ive heard about the tipping there and id go with the culture. dont wanna get chased down the street by an angry waiter :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 952 ✭✭✭Themadhouse


    Halo Kitty wrote: »
    if the cost of the trip to the hair dressers was not so expensive i would think about tipping, but alas paying someone €40 for a wash trim i feel that is more than enough....times like this i wish i was a guy ..and get away with paying a hell of a lot less..

    Realistically its the same though for the person doing the work. 40 quid for a w/c/bd which takes about 40 mins or 15 quid for a dry cut ( in a barbers) which takes 10 mins....


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    I provide a service, and a much better and essential one than any hairdresser, barman, waitress, taxi driver etc and still I never get a tip. I get told to f*ck off every now and then though, the joys of being in a caring profession I guess... :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭Halo Kitty


    I think people tip certain employment if they feel a person'a income may depend on tips as a form of suppliment....but do hairdressers qualify for this...i feel not


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    I'm a man and got a wash and a cut for 8 euro last wk (no colour!) and I did leave a 2e tip, which was 25%. I normally wouldn't tip at all though.;)

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    I never tip hairdressers.

    I don't like the whole tipping thing in general, and I thought this when I was a waitress too.

    EDIT: And I don't believe tips should be expected either. And don't get me started on automatic service charges.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Aishae


    my mother was saying the hairdresser tipping thing originated from the days when she was in peter mark - you had more trainees then and the relied heavily on tips cos this was before the min wage too. as well as that you have to buy your own equipment as a trainee. and it just became... expected now.
    i dunno if thats the whole reason why the tipping thing.
    but who can afford a huge tip for every service, now the celtic tiger has slunk off anyway?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,382 ✭✭✭Poor Craythur


    Aishae wrote: »
    you had more trainees then and the relied heavily on tips cos this was before the min wage too.

    See, this is the thing, I don't think paying customers should have to compensate, the employers should pay their employees a decent wage. It shouldn't be up to the customer to make up the shortfall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Aishae


    See, this is the thing, I don't think paying customers should have to compensate, the employers should pay their employee's a decent wage. It should be up to the customer to make up the shortfall.

    oh i agree
    i was just saying what my mams take on it was from her past
    when someone says 'well the waitress / hairdresser has to eat' yeah and in this day and age im sure theyre paid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I've never understood this tipping hairdressers rubbish, surely the cost is included in the price, it seems bizzare to tip someone for doing their job! They're getting paid their wages to provide a service, it's madness! You don't tip the bus driver, or your doctor, they provide a far more important service, so why on earth would you tip the bloody hairdresser!

    Nobody gives me extra money for doing my job!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭Sarah Bear


    im a 3rd trainee hairdresser i work on average 45 hrs per week.. i get paid €295 euro per week :( (standard aprentice rates!)
    I think i would starve without my tips!!! :p i use them to pay for lunches etc..
    Although i would never expect someone to tip me or think they were mean if they didnt! :)
    Stylists (fully qualified) get paid commision as well as a basic wage, so if you do want to leave a tip maybe give it to the girl who shampoos your hair or does your colour :)
    Most people who tip would give 2-5 euro.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 350 ✭✭amybabes


    Personally, i always tip for services - unless it was remarkably poor. Even when i was a student I used to tip the hairdressed between 5 and 10Euro depending what I had on me.

    Now living in OZ, I would usually tip $10 for my hair, (if getting colour,cut, blowdry) - usually a $5 if just a blowdry or cut.
    Would tip for getting my nails/pedicure done - usually costs $55 for both so round it up to $60 mostly.
    I tip taxis, my waxing girl (tell her to keep the change of $10 (eyebrow wax $8), and unless i've had a bad meal I would always leave at least a dollar or two in the case of a sandwich or quick bite, and 10-15% if out for a proper meal.

    Had my bf's family over on a holiday last week and was out for a pretty plush meal with my boyfriend, his brother and the brother's partner in a swanky enough resort. We had a set menu and our total bill with wine came to $290 - it was their turn to buy dinner that night and they left a $9 tip in the little folder! We had first class service from a young waiter from New Zealand and I was so embarrassed, especially as my bf's partner is a head chef so knows the importance of tips to service staff. I pointed it out that it wasn't even 5% and they shrugged and said that's enough for them. Felt so strongly about it that I ended up running to the atm on the sly and taking out a $20 to put in to bring it up to 10%!!

    Now maybe it's because I've been out of Ireland a couple of years and kind of escaped the recession, but for a good service at home, I would be equally as generous in tipping. I notice that I have rubbed off on my boyfriend who is now as decent as me when we are out. Stinginess is a real pet hate of mine. We could well afford to go for dinner so I think tipping is important.
    Having waitressed for years in ireland and the u.s, I can honestly say from experience that it's usually the ones who can well afford it that don't tip or leave the least generous tips. Even if it a euro or two, it all adds up. I was always so grateful for any little extra. Tips from a Saturday shift used to buy me credit and groceries for a week during my student days!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I was so embarrassed, especially as my bf's partner is a head chef so knows the importance of tips to service staff.
    im a 3rd trainee hairdresser i work on average 45 hrs per week.. i get paid €295 euro per week (standard aprentice rates!)
    I think i would starve without my tips!!! i use them to pay for lunches etc..

    That's what i can't get my head around...if your job doesn't pay you enough to survive on well then get a new job tbh! I'm sure the staff in mcdonalds or cleaning toilets in busaras are on far lower wages and they don't get tipped. People shouldn't have to subsidise others for their career choices.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 249 ✭✭purity


    I pay over 120 euro every time and I go four times a year so that's 500! I tipped three occasions and feel I should not, now I pay by card:) I always but serum or conditioner so technically that's a tip?


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Hailee Polite Forklift


    They get my repeat custom and I spend a lot of money in there. I definitely dont tip.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,390 ✭✭✭Stench Blossoms


    I've given up on tipping. I don't get tipped in my job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭Daisy M


    Sarah Bear wrote: »
    im a 3rd trainee hairdresser i work on average 45 hrs per week.. i get paid €295 euro per week :( (standard aprentice rates!)
    I think i would starve without my tips!!! :p i use them to pay for lunches etc..
    Although i would never expect someone to tip me or think they were mean if they didnt! :)
    Stylists (fully qualified) get paid commision as well as a basic wage, so if you do want to leave a tip maybe give it to the girl who shampoos your hair or does your colour :)
    Most people who tip would give 2-5 euro.
    You wouldnt starve or anything like it, there are families living on less. I must admit I dont mind tipping one person but sometimes you could have 3 different people to tip, the girl who shampoos, another might put on a colour and then the stylist. The one person that I dont like tipping is the stylist who owns the salon it seems ridiculos, but I have always got the feeling that if they did my hair they still expected it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 346 ✭✭seanmc1980


    My tip is get a better paid job.
    if you cant live on your current wages, why should i subsidise you for you lack of earning power.
    i'm not in the slightest stingy, i tip all over the place but people thinking they have a right to a tip because they have a crap jobs gets on my goat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭stargazer 68


    I hate this tipping thing - I never know whether to or not. And the price of hairdressing these days is enough. A lot of the time though the person who owns the salon does my hair - she certainly isn't getting a tip!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,150 ✭✭✭✭Malari


    I used to go to a salon and not tip very often. I would get the attention of the stylist initially for colour, then again for cutting, but then the washing and hairdrying was done by one of the trainees. I prefer a whole start-to-finish treatment by the one person, which I know is not really possible in a busy salon. Do you tip the trainee, who maybe needs it more, or the stylist who gives advice and essentially whose work you are paying for?

    Anyway, the stylist I went to left and set up on her own. She is now does the same thing for about half the salon price. I tip her because I think she does a really good job.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    I don't tip anyone. It's my view that I should either tip everyone or tip no one so I go with the second option. I don't get why I should tip certain people and not others when they either perfom similar jobs or in some cases more important/stressful/harder jobs. I worked in a book shop for many years, we sold school books but didn't stock them on the floor as we didn't have the space so people would leave they're lists in and go off around the shopping centre while one of the staff climbed two flights of stairs and dug around the stock room to get everything together for them. They came back and their books were packed up and ready for them. I'd regualarly run the length of the shop or go upstairs to the stock room to get books for people. No tip was every offered. Meanwhile the sandwich place down the way the staff had to take all of two steps to make the sandwich and ring it up, they'd no tables so nothing to clean outside of their sandwich making area yet they'd a tip jar beside the tile that people regularly chucked 1 and 2 euros into. I worked longer shifts, had to cover more ground during a shift and had to carry much heavier items around so I often wondered what would have happened had I placed a tip jar beside my till in the book store.

    I lived in the states for years and the tipping situation there drove me slightly nuts. On more then one occasion I saw waiters running after people and yelling at them for not tipping or more often not tipping enough. It's so funny how different countries view it. Last January I was at an arts festival in the south of France having a meal with an american, a canadian and a bunch of Europeans [mainly Dutch and Belgian] and English guy and myself. When the bill came the two north americans got really upset over leaving a tip while the Europeans were dead aginist it. A massive row broke out over it with myself and english guy in the middle as we didn't seem pushed either way, we'd pay our share if people wanted to leave tip but weren't paying if everyone else wasn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,598 ✭✭✭boomkatalog


    I don't usually tip my hairdresser, but over Christmas I went from red to blonde, it took weeks of her testing little samples of my hair for free, and when she did colour it she took great care to make sure it came out as well as it good, using extra toners etc. She really went the extra mile so I tipped her then, and brought her a tin of roses for the salon.

    If I was getting just my fringe done too, she doesn't charge for that so I'd tip her then too. Otherwise, it's just so expensive that I couldn't really afford to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭carolinespring


    I normally leave a 5 euro tip if I am happy be it for a 20 euro blow dry of 100 euro colour. Same tip for eyebrow wax, facial etc. If I am not happy then I dont tip at all. Just pay with my card and leave. I just feel its a nice way to say thanks, I am delighted with what you have done.

    Again when eating out I normally tip if the food and service was good, but if really slow or food not great I dont. I would round the bill up so say if lunch was was 25 I would leave 30 or if dinner was 81 leave 90.

    I never feel I have to but did go to a hairdressers once ot twice where she made it clear she was waiting for a tip. Didnt go back again. Do not want to be made to feel I have to but do it as I want to say thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 446 ✭✭Up-n-atom!


    I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who's a bit wary of tipping! I'm really good at tipping in restaurants but I never know what to do in hairdressers. The last time I went it was with one of those boards/city deals vouchers, but I had €10 handy to tip the girl doing my hair (who was really lovely). I didn't know how to go about itafter, though; I felt really awkward so I didn't give it to her in the end, and I felt like a right stingy b*tch for the rest of the day:o It's really silly, I just feel like I don't know what the right etiquette is, especially with the person who's washed your hair - should you tip them just after they do it or wait until you're leaving and go and find them? I'd like to tip people, particularly if I think they deserve it but I just need to know how to go about it!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 12,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭byhookorbycrook


    I leave a €5 at the counter when I pay, not sure about tipping say whoever washes/cuts/brings me coffee. I only tip if I am happy with the service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 481 ✭✭Sarah Bear


    That's what i can't get my head around...if your job doesn't pay you enough to survive on well then get a new job tbh! I'm sure the staff in mcdonalds or cleaning toilets in busaras are on far lower wages and they don't get tipped. People shouldn't have to subsidise others for their career choices.

    while a hairdresser is training the wages are low, 1st year wages are €240 per week but when the training is finished you get a decent salary.
    If you dont want to leave a tip.. then dont! I dont EXPECT anyone to ''subsidise my career choice'' But if someone does leave me a tip i do appreciate it! I think tips should be only given if the service is good.. not just because you feel you have to tip!


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,662 Mod ✭✭✭✭Faith


    I never did, but I have the last couple of times because I really love what they've done with my hair. They spend so much time with you and they really do what's going to look best. I wouldn't tip ordinarily, but in my current salon the level of attention is fantastic so I feel they deserve it.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    This is the first I've heard that you're supposed to tip hairdressers. But, considering nearly every single one I've been too has ignored my instructions and has chatted almost incessently about her life (I don't care, I'm there to get a hair cut and that's it) I wouldn't tip them anyway. If I ever meet one who does what I ask, and doesn't badger me about where I'm going on holiday this year or what so-and-so has been up to according to xyz magazine, then I'll pay 'em double.

    Generally, hairdressers are overprices. Home-cut hair ftw!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 534 ✭✭✭talkin


    i have to say i dont tip anymore. i used to all the time though 5/10 max. maybe at xmas time i mite still. i really didnt think anybody tipped anymore ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭Morgase


    I never even considered that there was an expectation of tipping the hair-washer as well as the person cutting! I used to give an extra fiver or tenner to whoever was taking the money off me at the till and leave it at that.

    Not that I tip any more though; I've got more sense now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭Birdie086


    I go to a real cheap and cheerful place, and I generally don't tip, I simply can't afford it, however when i bring my son for a haircut whichever poor soul is unlucky enough to be working that day gets a fiver - he screams the place down!!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,953 ✭✭✭Vinta81


    I usually give €5 or €10.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭Snoopy1


    I always pay by card, and add the tip on to the price. Does this mean no-one is actually getting my tip?

    Thinking about it, i never tip if im at beauticians (although thats very rare), so why should i tip hairdressers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 hally6


    Im a man n i dont know much bout womens hair but i pay 23 yo yo's for my haircut...
    must say it is well worth coz my barber puts alot of effort into my hair...
    always lookin fly..lol :D:D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    I don't tip. The place I go to charge quite a lot so I'm not paying a tip on top of that. As far as I am concerned the service charge is included. I don't get tipped when I do my job no matter how well it's done (and technically it's a service as well).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,073 ✭✭✭sam34


    the do-I-dont-I uncertainty around this is one of the reasons I HATE going to the hairdressers. I feel awkward and patronising when I tip and stingy when I don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,050 ✭✭✭whatlliwear


    I don't tip in the hairdresser because I can barely afford the price as it is.
    It took me years to find a great hairdresser & I am so broke as I need a cut every 6 weeks..
    So a tip is out of the question. I wish I could afford it but times are so tough.
    Just as a matter of interest do ye all tip for lunches out? I always tip at proper evening meals in restaurants but would ye all tip say for example for lunch in a bar? Bar food like? One of my mates does & I always feel like a tight wad as I just never thought to do it before. Usually I can barely afford the food as it is & tend to go for the special/ cheapo option anyway..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,160 ✭✭✭Callan57


    I wouldn't dream of tipping at the hairdressers ... God Almighty it's way too expensive as it is.
    Apart from which it's patronising & insulting and anyway we have a minimum wage unlike US. Tipping IMO is a throwback to the days of Upstairs Downstairs.

    Why should I be required to add extra to what are already extortionist prices?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭Aishae


    I don't tip in the hairdresser because I can barely afford the price as it is.
    It took me years to find a great hairdresser & I am so broke as I need a cut every 6 weeks..
    So a tip is out of the question. I wish I could afford it but times are so tough.
    Just as a matter of interest do ye all tip for lunches out? I always tip at proper evening meals in restaurants but would ye all tip say for example for lunch in a bar? Bar food like? One of my mates does & I always feel like a tight wad as I just never thought to do it before. Usually I can barely afford the food as it is & tend to go for the special/ cheapo option anyway..

    i dont tip in a sandiwch bar type place, or even for a pub lunch although its been a while!

    a thought about tipping at the till, how can you be sure the person who even did your hair will get it? maybe like at most pubs theres a tips jar thats shared out at the end of the day (so even someone bad at their job will get tipped) or maybe it just goes into the till as they dont realise its a tip. or maybe the girl at the till keeps it thinking you were tipping her (well, its a possibility) - so in the past when i DID tip i left it on the table in front of the mirror (the hairdresser was still behind me)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,884 ✭✭✭Eve_Dublin


    I always tip. A haircut (even in fairly snazzy places) cost E30 max here in Madrid and the staff only earn about 2 'n' 6 pence an hour (E600 a month or thereabouts), so I think it's only right.

    I used to tip in Ireland too but I never got my hair cut as often as I probably should've. Dunno why, I just do. I always tip when you're supposed to tip.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,340 ✭✭✭siobhan.murphy


    I went and got my hair cut blow dried last week,the salon was freezing the water she washed my hair in was cold,I wasnt offered a coffee,so no matter how the hair turned out you just know youre gonna hate it (I do) and no tip,normallly I would leave a fiver


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