Was war in Libya deliberately timed to take attention away from Fukushima?

Run_to_da_hills

Over the last week the war in Libya has taken a dominant role in the media in both broadsheet and tabloids. Could this invasion have been "put off" for a few weeks or was it a perfect way to distract the media and populations away from a very serious issue?

Is there something out there that experts know about but preferred to suppress it and keep it in the back ground?.

Jeboa Safari

Japan is still firmly in the news. Gadaffi was probably only a few weeks from defeating the rebels, and the only reason that the Allies weren't in there earlier was becausing of all the humming and hawing at the UN until they could finally agree something.

uprising2

I don't think they just went to war to take attention away from Japan, they just fancied a kick about.
Although I don't think the whole truth is being told about Fukushima either, not by a long way, the radiation threat is being played down.

The radiation leaking into the air and sea is being played down bigtime, it's slowly seeping out, it's a slow disaster happening.

Japan detects radioactivity 30 km off coast: IAEA
VIENNA—Japanese scientists have found measurable concentrations of radioactive iodine-131 and cesium-137 in seawater samples taken 30 kilometres from land, the UN nuclear watchdog said Thursday.
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/960432--radioactive-elements-found-in-seawater-off-japan?bn=1

Report: Emissions from Japan plant approach Chernobyl levels
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/03/report-radioactive-emissions-from-japan-plant-approach-chernobyl-levels/1

Overheal

As long as we're talking Theory you may be right. But the remaining fact is theres **** all we can do about the Fallout except let it come.

The importance of downplaying it should be obvious though, the panic has already caused shortages and more importantly hoarding of iodines and kelp products. I have confidence they will warn people when it's time to start taking iodine but I don't think we're there yet. If we'll get there at all. Though I agree MOX complicates the issue somewhat.

Brown Bomber

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Is there something out there that experts know about but preferred to suppress it and keep it in the back ground?.

Stuxnet?

gizmo

Stuxnet can cause earthquakes and tsunamis now? Holy ****! :pac:

Overheal

gizmo wrote: »

Stuxnet can cause earthquakes and tsunamis now? Holy ****! :pac:

when it takes control of HAARP it can

Run_to_da_hills

While the mass media has all but dropped its interest in the Fukushima crisis to focus on Libya and meaningless side-issues like the death of Elizabeth Taylor, the nuclear nightmare only worsens, as Japanese authorities admit that reactor number 3, which is the only reactor to contain MOX plutonium, is now leaking.

http://www.infowars.com/japanese-authorities-admit-deadly-mox-plutonium-reactor-is-leaking/

gizmo

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

While the mass media has all but dropped its interest in the Fukushima crisis to focus on Libya and meaningless side-issues like the death of Elizabeth Taylor, the nuclear nightmare only worsens, as Japanese authorities admit that reactor number 3, which is the only reactor to contain MOX plutonium, is now leaking.

http://www.infowars.com/japanese-authorities-admit-deadly-mox-plutonium-reactor-is-leaking/

Well for one that's completely incorrect, EVERY news report I've seen across multiple news channels have either had Japan as the first or second story. I know I should allow for such inaccuracies from Alex Jones but ffs...

On this note however, the government also announced today that the three workers who suffered burns while trying to cool that very same reactor (#3) were exposed to radiation levels over 10,000 times higher than safe levels. Looks like the containment has indeed ruptured which means attempts to cool it are now the least of their worries.

Overheal

The reactor 3 situation is going to hit the fan sooner or later. That Plutonium will make its own headlines.

I dont like saying that in the AH thread though. Most people don't honestly need to hear that right now, especially when its still in only speculation at this point, however potentially accurate it may be.

Yitzhak Rabin

Overheal wrote: »

The reactor 3 situation is going to hit the fan sooner or later. That Plutonium will make its own headlines.

I dont like saying that in the AH thread though. Most people don't honestly need to hear that right now, especially when its still in only speculation at this point, however potentially accurate it may be.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-03-25/reactor-core-may-be-leaking-at-damaged-fukushima-plant-1-.html

Its pretty much official given the main news media is reporting it now.

This is bad bad news.

Overheal

Japan yesterday advised more people living close to the nuclear plant to evacuate because basic goods are in short supply, while assuring them that radiation levels haven’t risen

Yet you know the japanese people are smart enough to know thats a BS line. Im just amazed they can remain calm.

uprising2

Dangerous breach feared at Japan nuke site

'We are not in a position where we can be optimistic,' prime minister says; workers hurt after wading into water 10,000 times more radioactive than normal

TOKYO — A possible breach in the core of a reactor at the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant could mean more serious radioactive contamination, Japanese officials revealed Friday, as the prime minister called the country's ongoing fight to stabilize the plant "very grave and serious."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42263856/ns/world_news-asiapacific/

Japan's nuclear nightmare 'nowhere near' over
http://news.scotsman.com/world/Japan39s-nuclear-nightmare-39nowhere-near39.6740583.jp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5STM-Su7eY

Reactor Core may be leaking.
http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/25/japan-reactor-core-may-be-leaking-radioactive-material-official-says/

It just gets worse by the day, and thats the stuff that's being told, I read somewhere that the radiation released so far is something like 40% of chernobyl, could be wrong.

For the most advanced nation on earth they just showing how ill equipped the whole world is for a disaster.
Before this I would have foolishly assumed that Japan was ready for everything concerning earthquakes, tsunami's, and even a nuclear disaster, but it seem's they weren't, unless the translator on NHK is very bad, the official spokesmen I've seen being interviewed so far look like a pack of incompetent "beat around the bush" sidesteppers, I have never heard them answer a question with a straight answer, it's all waffle about what could,would,should be, but very little about what is actually happening.

Reporter: Is there any threat of radiation killing millions from cancer because you's idiots built sh1t nuclear power stations with the back-up generators below ground level, beside the pacific ocean, where there are LOTS of earthquakes?

Official: Well you see, we are seeing steam, this means that water is evaporating and maybe the fuel rods are exposed, but if we look at another prefecture you will see that we have no radiation there so that is a good sign.

I honestly can't see any easy way out of this now, if they concrete it, that brings it's own problems, masses of land off limits, constant contamination of the sea, I dont know where it will lead but I believe it has the potential to become the biggest disaster of this kind ever witnessed, hopefully it won't, but the truth is nobody knows where this is or isn't going.
5 years from now I think the effects will be a lot more far reaching than anybody is willing to predict, potentially millions of deaths attributed to this in one form or another.

Brown Bomber

gizmo wrote: »

Stuxnet can cause earthquakes and tsunamis now? Holy ****! :pac:

Nope. Never said it could.

But it can **** about with the cooling system which is exactly what has happened in Fukushima.

murphthesmurf

I've heard some far fetched conspiracy theories, but this is the best yet. Are you serious? Surely you don't actually believe this? Anybody got a straight jacket ? :rolleyes:

Brown Bomber

murphthesmurf wrote: »

:rolleyes:

You didn't think this through did you?. Winking and rolling eyes at the same time.

Makes you look like you have some kind of weird facial tic.

murphthesmurf

Brown Bomber wrote: »

You didn't think this through did you?. Winking and rolling eyes at the same time.

Makes you look like you have some kind of weird facial tic.

Yes thats mental. As opposed to thinking the UK, Canada, USA, some of the Arab countries, France etc etc etc all got together and came up with the idea to invade Libya so as people will stop worrying. Can't believe I put a rolling eyes and a wink though.

Brown Bomber

murphthesmurf wrote: »

Yes thats mental. As opposed to thinking the UK, Canada, USA, some of the Arab countries, France etc etc etc all got together and came up with the idea to invade Libya so as people will stop worrying. Can't believe I put a rolling eyes and a wink though.

I'm sure your quite fond of the occasional wink. Who said anything about attacking people so people would stop worrying?

murphthesmurf

Brown Bomber wrote: »

I'm sure your quite fond of the occasional wink.

Well done, I seen what you done there

So what else would the point be of distracting the media away from it other than to prevent people from worrying and panicking?

Run_to_da_hills

Sometimes one has to dig into the alternative news sites to get the links with information that would not normally appear in mainstream.

Japan PM: N-situation could deteriorate.

Japan nuclear safety officials suspect that high-level radiation may be leaking from a reactor core at the Fukushima nuclear plant, with the country's premier warning that the situation could deteriorate.

Tehran-based columnist Nader Mokhtari says Japanese officials have not been transparent with regards to the extent of the disaster in the country.

“Fukushima has six reactors; we are seeing four Chernobyls. Two reactors are already in meltdown and two are fast approaching meltdown,” Mokhtari said in an interview with Press TV on Thursday.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/171599.html

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) says it cannot tell when the radioactive leakage from the disaster-hit Fukushima nuclear power plant in Japan could be contained.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/171683.html

gizmo

Brown Bomber wrote: »

Nope. Never said it could.

But it can **** about with the cooling system which is exactly what has happened in Fukushima.

Well I was joking in fairness.

But with regards the cooling system, I'd suspect it has more to do with said earthquake knocking out power to the coolant systems and demolishing half the plant which has led to their current predicament.

caseyann

It may be the other way around op,they used the Japanese crisis to take the eye off Libya? Or both of them to take the eyes off them and what they are doing to the EU?

MRPRO03

Some may find interesting

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/25/fukushima_scaremongering_debunk/

uprising2

MRPRO03 wrote: »

Some may find interesting

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/25/fukushima_scaremongering_debunk/

Others may find this interesting:

Workers evacuated as radiation soars at Japan reactor
March 27, 2011 - 4:04PM

Extremely high levels of radiation were detected in water leaking from reactor two of the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant, forcing the evacuation of workers, its operator said Sunday.
A spokesman for Tokyo Electric Power said the level of radiation found in the leaked water was 10 million times higher than it should be for water inside the reactor, indicating damage to the fuel rods.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/workers-evacuated-as-radiation-soars-at-japan-reactor-20110327-1cbod.html


Workers evacuated as radioactivity rises in reactor
OSAKA - EXTREMELY high levels of radiation were detected in water leaking from reactor two of the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant, forcing the evacuation of workers, its operator said on Sunday.
A spokesman for Tokyo Electric Power said the level of radiation found in the leaked water was 10 million times higher than it should be for water inside the reactor, indicating damage to the fuel rods.
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Asia/Story/STIStory_649927.html

MRPRO03

Ahem

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Japan-Earthquake-Officials-Says-Radiation-Levels-At-Fukushima-Are-Not-10-Million-Times-Above-Normal/Article/201103415960973?lpos=World_News_First_World_News_Article_Teaser_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15960973_Japan_Earthquake%3A_Officials_Says_Radiation_Levels_At_Fukushima_Are_Not_10_Million_Times_Above_Normal

uprising2

MRPRO03 wrote: »

Ahem

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Japan-Earthquake-Officials-Says-Radiation-Levels-At-Fukushima-Are-Not-10-Million-Times-Above-Normal/Article/201103415960973?lpos=World_News_First_World_News_Article_Teaser_Region_2&lid=ARTICLE_15960973_Japan_Earthquake%3A_Officials_Says_Radiation_Levels_At_Fukushima_Are_Not_10_Million_Times_Above_Normal

Ahem.......

Tokyo Electric Power (Tepco) said initial reports of levels 10m times higher than normal in parts of the No 2 reactor were inaccurate, although it was unable to say by how much.
"The number is not credible," a spokesman, Takashi Kurita, said. "We are very sorry." Kurita said officials were taking another sample to get accurate levels, but did not know when the results would be announced.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/27/japan-nuclear-error-radiation-reading

So the readings of 10 million times higher than normal were "inaccurate" or so they say, but by how much they "don't know", so I wouldn't be celebrating an end to this disaster just yet.
Maybe it's only 1 million or 8.9 million times higher than normal, but whatever the true figure is I imagine it is still an awful lot higher than anybody was hoping for.

Radiation scare at Japan nuclear plant
"It is an extremely high figure," nuclear safety agency spokesman Hidehiko Nishiyama said, adding there was a "high possibility" that the contaminated water had leaked from the reactor.
TEPCO, however, retracted an announcement that the radiation levels were 10 million times higher than usual, saying it had made a mistake.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/radiation-scare-at-japan-nuclear-plant-20110327-1cbqb.html

Run_to_da_hills

What worries me very much is that you have an incompetent bunch in charge of this whole mop up operation that cannot correctly read a geiger counter and at the same time hand out inadequate footwear PPE to their workers. God knows what else they have slipped up on.

caseyann

Not to mention the damage it has already done to wild life and sea etc...

Overheal

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

What worries me very much is that you have an incompetent bunch in charge of this whole mop up operation that cannot correctly read a geiger counter and at the same time hand out inadequate footwear PPE to their workers. God knows what else they have slipped up on.

No consideration for them being experts then, who have been strung out on what must be little to no sleep for 2 weeks in an environment which fits the definition for primordial stress?

Run_to_da_hills

Overheal wrote: »

No consideration for them being experts then, who have been strung out on what must be little to no sleep for 2 weeks in an environment which fits the definition for primordial stress?

This even makes the situation even more grave when you have an over stressed tired and and worn out management team trying to tackle what could become the worst nuclear accident in history.

No expense should be spared by the Japanese Government to get fresh relief expertise involved.

Overheal

I think thats happening but you get difficulty with the whole Japanese thing. The language of the workers, the controls, everything. I believe they're trying, but I dont fathom it's easy.

My dad told me that when he was in the Coast Guard during TMI that he recalled being asked (among many) for volunteers to go there and take part in the effort, some to transport physicists and such. He doesnt recall whether he agreed to standby to help or not, he just remembers not being anywhere near TMI.

/wait, that was irrelevant

uprising2

Another Earthquake and Tsunami alert off Northern Japan.

Japan issues new tsunami advisory after earthquake
(CNN) -- Authorities issued a tsunami advisory Monday morning for coastal areas of Miyagi Prefecture in northeastern Japan after a 6.5-magnitude quake struck the region, the Japan Meteorological Agency said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/27/japan.tsunami.advisory/?hpt=T2

If another big one hits them, with a significant tsunami, it will be game over.

digme

uprising2 wrote: »

Another Earthquake and Tsunami alert off Northern Japan.

Japan issues new tsunami advisory after earthquake
(CNN) -- Authorities issued a tsunami advisory Monday morning for coastal areas of Miyagi Prefecture in northeastern Japan after a 6.5-magnitude quake struck the region, the Japan Meteorological Agency said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/27/japan.tsunami.advisory/?hpt=T2

If another big one hits them, with a significant tsunami, it will be game over.

2 foot high or less, how is this news lol

uprising2

digme wrote: »

2 foot high of less, how is this news lol

Yeah agreed, a bit of an over statement about the tsunami, I heard it and posted it, then went looking for a link to back it up, not much of a tsunami, but all these 6+ Mag earthquakes must be weakening the plant even more, bit by bit, then all that MOX and other crap sloshing about in their pools can't be a good thing.
And "if" another tsunami were to come in again can you imagine the crap spread from that, these pools of radioactive water washed out of the plant and carried a mile or two inland wouldn't be good.

They "think" a reactor "may" have a crack, earth movement will only worsen any cracks and possibly create new ones.

digme

I know, 6 is a pretty big earth quake.I'd say that core has to be cracked pretty bad now.Another big quake and bye bye japan.

uprising2

Radiation Danger Stalls Efforts to Repair Damaged Japan Reactors
March 28 (Bloomberg) -- Hazardous radiation levels found at two damaged reactors delayed work at the Fukushima Dai-Ichi power plant, site of the worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl.
Tests detected radiation yesterday at the No. 2 unit that might cause vomiting, hair loss and diarrhea upon exposure. Water may be leaking from the reactor, Sakae Muto, a vice president at plant operator Tokyo Electric Power Co., said at a news conference early today in Tokyo.
Thousands of tons of water dumped on the reactors may now be leaking radioactive elements outside the plant. Engineers are working on ways to drain and store the contaminated water.
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-03-27/radiation-danger-stalls-efforts-to-repair-damaged-japan-reactors.html

Just when I thought the bullsh1t couldn't get any worse, I came across this sad excuse by the Tepco chief, 5 days after the earthquake I'd say it finally dawned on him what was happening and he pulled a sickie or was genuinely having a nervous meltdon.

Japan's Tepco chief 'was sick during nuclear crisis'
OSAKA - THE president of Tokyo Electric Power Co (Tepco), the operator of the stricken Fukushima nuclear plant, was sick and off work for several days during the crisis, local reports said on Monday.
But another Tepco employee, described as a senior official, said Mr Shimizu had been so sick that he had stayed 'mostly in bed' in a separate room in the building where the task force was meeting, the newspaper said.
Mr Shimizu has not appeared in public since attending a press conference on March 13, leading to local media criticism that he had been irresponsible. A Tepco spokesman declined to elaborate on his health condition, but said he did not fall over or require an intravenous drip, Kyodo said.
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Asia/Story/STIStory_650179.html


"This disaster is 60% man-made," said one government official. "They failed in their initial response. It's like Tepco dropped and lost a 100 yen coin while trying to pick up a 10 yen coin."

Government efforts also were plagued with delays. Japan's military, the Self-Defense Forces, didn't participate in cool-down efforts in a big way until Wednesday, after four of the six reactors had suffered damage and the remaining two showed signs of heating as well. A military spokesman said forces didn't move in because they weren't requested by Tepco. A Tepco spokesman declined to comment on the issue specifically, saying in general the company is in contact with the government.


Bid to 'Protect Assets' Slowed Reactor Fight
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704608504576207912642629904.html?mod=WSJ_hp_mostpop_read

Run_to_da_hills

Russian media quoted a U.S. scientist who said the international community should deal with the Japanese crisis instead of bombing Libya.

uprising2

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Russian media quoted a U.S. scientist who said the international community should deal with the Japanese crisis instead of bombing Libya.

Well if the money and effort were put into that instead of being put into stealing oil spreading freedom, it would be money better spent

It's getting worse by the hour, traces found in Scotland, radiation in the sea rising sharply.

Japan nuclear crisis: Seawater radioactivity 'rises'
Water near the Fukushima Daiichi plant's reactor 1 contained radioactive iodine at 3,355 times the legal limit, a government agency said.
Earlier samples had been put at 1,850 times the legal limit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12903072

Japan on 'maximum alert' over nuclear plant
One tunnel alone holds 6,000 cubic metres (212,000 cubic feet) of contaminated water, more than two Olympic swimming pools. Still, the only choice for now is to keep pumping water, said government spokesman Yukio Edano.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/japan-on-maximum-alert-over-nuclear-plant-20110330-1cfot.html

Jeboa Safari

Japan has been offered international help, it's a crazy situation though

humanji

What more can the international community do?

Run_to_da_hills

digme wrote: »

2 foot high or less, how is this news lol

Any abnormal rise in water level is a concern, all it would take would be a few more feet wash sea water into the contaminated land and overflow pools and then carry it out to sea, thats if this has not happened already.

"Fukushima nuclear plant to be entombed in concrete as Japan admits it has lost battle with crippled reactors". Three weeks behind time on this one. It is the last resort and looks like the only way of putting a sticky plaster on the situation, but unlike Chernobyl Japan will now have four sleeping monsters instead of one.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/readerCommentsSecurity.html

uprising2

Concrete Solution

Dumping concrete on the plant would serve a second purpose: it would trap contaminated water, said Tony Roulstone, an atomic engineer who directs the University of Cambridge’s masters program in nuclear energy.
“They need to immobilize this water and they need something to soak it up,” he said. “You don’t want to create another hazard, but you need to get it away from the reactors.”
The process will take longer than the 12 years needed to decommission the Three Mile Island reactor in Pennsylvania following a partial meltdown in 1979, said Hironobu Unesaki, a nuclear engineering professor at Kyoto University.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-03-30/record-high-levels-of-radiation-found-in-sea-near-crippled-nuclear-reactor.html

Pumping Operation Stops at Plant

Pumping Stops Amid Storage Strains; Radiation Levels Rise in Nearby Ocean

TOKYO—The battle to prevent a crippled Japanese nuclear facility from leaking radioactive water into the ocean faced a series of new problems Wednesday, underscoring the challenges government and utility officials face as they improvise solutions to the chaos at the plant
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703712504576231983520924172.html


Radiation in seawater around Japan plant 4,385 times over legal limit
(Reuters) - The levels of radioactive iodine found in seawater near Japan's stricken nuclear power plant was 4,385 times more than the legal limit on Thursday, the nuclear safety agency said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/31/idUSLKE7DP00S20110331

Run_to_da_hills

Low Levels of Radiation Found in American Milk.

This will no doubt cause over reaction and panic in the States.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/31/us/31milk.html

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Low Levels of Radiation Found in American Milk.

This will no doubt cause over reaction and panic in the States.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/31/us/31milk.html

Only if they don't actually read the article:

Radioactive materials in liquids are measured in pico-curies per liter, and the sample, taken March 25, showed a reading of 0.8 pico-curies, the agency said. Those numbers, it said, would have to be 5,000 times higher to reach the “intervention level” set by the Food and Drug Administration.

old hippy

humanji wrote: »

What more can the international community do?

Every little bit helps. Been to a few fundraisers and there's another one in the works. On an individual level; that's about all I can do, short of go out there.

For now we must rely on the boffins and the heroic efforts of the teams in Fukushima.

Run_to_da_hills

King Mob wrote: »

Only if they don't actually read the article:

They won't.

Run_to_da_hills

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

They won't.

Well we know you didn't anyway.

uprising2

King Mob wrote: »

Well we know you didn't anyway.

Kingmob are you here to discuss the nuclear disaster thats getting worse by the minute or just to disagree with every thing?
It's getting worse and worse and all the ideas are starting to run out, in your own opinion do you see a safe and happy ending to this?, can science control what it create's?, what is the outcome you imagine?

Crews 'facing 100-year battle' at Fukushima
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/04/01/3179487.htm

Japan nuclear watchdog: radiation may be leaking continuously into sea
http://af.reuters.com/article/energyOilNews/idAFS7E7ER00820110331

uprising2

uprising2 wrote: »

Kingmob are you here to discuss the nuclear disaster thats getting worse by the minute or just to disagree with every thing?

You mean like RtdH's insistence that the evil controlled media are trying to scare people, yet also post the fact that they say there's nothing to worry about in the same article, which kinda shows he's continuing his habit of not reading beyond the headline?
Or how the theory proposed is that the evil powers that be are trying to distract from the nuclear disaster, but then we get a few pages of you posting new articles from the mainstream media every day?

So what exactly is the conspiracy being discussed?

uprising2

King Mob wrote: »

So what exactly is the conspiracy being discussed?

Well to be honest I was going to start a thread about whether the Nuclear disaster was being played down bigtime, which it was/is, they are starting to come round to the idea of maybe it's "bigger than we said, vewy sowwy".

But this thread was already here so rather than start 2 threads on basically the same thing I just joined in here with my bits and pieces.

I don't trust the main stream media, but thats not to say that they don't print facts, such as Madeline McCann vanished, FG won the election, Gerry Adams is a TD, etc, these are things that can be twisted from one paper to another, but the fact remains the same, no paper in the world would print "Japan nuclear disaster didn't happen", that would be silly, it's the spin added to the facts that cause concern, the ommitted news, the downplaying, the exaggeration, the half truths.

So I cant deny that the twin towers fell on 9/11, but I can dispute the news reports leading upto and after the actual real life event happened, and point out spin or downplaying when I see it, thats the route I'm taking on this Nuclear reactor in Japan issue.

uprising2

uprising2 wrote: »

Well to be honest I was going to start a thread about whether the Nuclear disaster was being played down bigtime, which it was/is, they are starting to come round to the idea of maybe it's "bigger than we said, vewy sowwy".

Or maybe they never tried to downplay it? They reported the facts as they came in and the scale and actual damage wasn't and couldn't be known at the time? And that your bias made you think they are downplaying for non-specific evil purposes?

uprising2 wrote: »

But this thread was already here so rather than start 2 threads on basically the same thing I just joined in here with my bits and pieces.

I don't trust the main stream media, but thats not to say that they don't print facts, such as Madeline McCann vanished, FG won the election, Gerry Adams is a TD, etc, these are things that can be twisted from one paper to another, but the fact remains the same, no paper in the world would print "Japan nuclear disaster didn't happen", that would be silly, it's the spin added to the facts that cause concern, the ommitted news, the downplaying, the exaggeration, the half truths.

So I cant deny that the twin towers fell on 9/11, but I can dispute the news reports leading upto and after the actual real life event happened, and point out spin or downplaying when I see it, thats the route I'm taking on this Nuclear reactor in Japan issue.

But you're not pointing out any of the "spin" or "omitted news" or any of the stuff you say they're doing. Nor have you shown anything to suggest that they are doing any of it.
In fact you often seem to be taken in uncritically by the more scary sounding articles.