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Richard Littlejohn's take on the Tsunami

  • 23-03-2011 3:41pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭


    *Apologies if already posted, delete if necessary*

    Yes it's the Mail, yes it's Richard Littlejohn, what do you expect? But this honestly must be the worst one of his I've ever read. Reminds me of when England lost in the World Cup and he had a headline along the lines of "If our grandad's had behaved so cowardly, we'd all be speaking German".

    I know this rag of a paper appeals to the masses but surely this is a step too far? It would be pretty extreme for a racist blogger but surely even hard core Mail readers should be disgusted by this?

    http://istyosty.com/tmp/cache/f300539586914af0d6ff760e4a858699f30f0331.html
    Why my wife's PoW grandad wouldn't mark a minute's silence for the Japanese



    By Richard Littlejohn
    Last updated at 10:08 AM on 22nd March 2011


    No one with a shred of humanity can fail to be moved by some of the pictures coming out of Japan, whether an elderly woman being rescued from the rubble or frightened, bewildered schoolchildren waiting in vain for parents who will never return.
    The devastation is on a biblical scale. Comparisons have been drawn with the dropping of the atom bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
    Our natural inclination is to wonder how we can help. But besides sending specialist search teams and offering heartfelt sympathy, there is nothing we can do. Japan is an advanced, wealthy nation, which will recover and rebuild over time. It doesn’t need our money.

    ?u=Oi8vaS5kYWlseW1haWwuY28udWsvaS9waXgvMjAxMS8wMy8yMS9hcnRpY2xlLTEzNjg1OTQtMEIyRDQ5OTYwMDAwMDU3OC0xMzJfNDY4eDMxOS5qcGc%3D&b=0 Brutal: The images from Japan might be horrific, but do they really warrant such highly publicised hand-wringing?

    Despite filling our homes with Japanese electronics and our garages with cars made by Nissan and Toyota, despite the vivid images on TV and assorted social networks, it remains a faraway country of which we know little and understand less.
    Anyone who has visited or worked in Japan will tell you it is like landing on another planet. Beyond the baseball caps and Western clothes, the Japanese people have a distinct culture of their own, which is entirely alien to our own values. They are militantly racist and in the past have been capable of great cruelty.

    ?u=Oi8vaS5kYWlseW1haWwuY28udWsvaS9waXgvMjAxMS8wMy8yMS9hcnRpY2xlLTEzNjg1OTQtMDIxMTYwMkQwMDAwMDRCMC04NTlfNDY4eDQ1Mi5qcGc%3D&b=0 War crime: British soldiers suffered horrific deprivation at the hands of their Japanese captors during World War Two

    It is wrong to visit the sins of previous generations on their modern descendants, although that doesn’t prevent the British Left constantly trying to make us feel guilty for centuries-old grievances, from the slave trade to the Irish potato famine.



    Yet many surviving members of the Burma Star Association still harbour deep animosity to everyone and all things Japanese, 65 years after VJ Day.
    They won’t want to be associated with the expressions of sympathy over the earthquake and tsunami. And who can blame them?
    Like thousands of other British servicemen who were tortured in Japanese prisoner-of-war camps, my wife’s late grandfather, Harold Tuck, would never have joined a minute’s silence for Japan.
    Until the day he died, Harold would refuse to remove his shirt, not even on the beach on the hottest day of the year. The scars inflicted by his sadistic Japanese captors were too horrible to be exposed to the harsh light of day.
    Were he alive today, he would have remained doggedly in his seat if requested to stand in silent tribute to the dead of Japan.
    I often wonder what our fathers and grandfathers would have made of modern Britain’s ghastly cult of sentimentality and vicarious grief.
    Ever since the hysteria surrounding the death of Lady Di, when half of the nation seemed to take leave of its senses, a section of the population seizes any excuse for a sobfest.
    Showing ‘respect’ has become institutionalised. Before every one of the weekend’s Premier League football matches, for instance, fans were forced to stand and observe a minute’s silence for Japan. Why?
    I have no objection to honouring the dead in public, if the occasion or sense of loss warrants it. At White Hart Lane we’ve recently said goodbye to some of the stars of Spurs’ double-winning side from the Sixties. There was genuine sadness over the loss of men many in the crowd had known personally.
    But how many of the hundreds of thousands of supporters corralled into grieving for Japan could even point to that country on a map?
    Like most monsters, the Premier League has a sickening streak of sentimentality. Barely a week passes without yet another minute’s silence before kick-off. Soon every club will have to employ professional mourners in black tailcoats and top hats to lead the teams out onto the pitch. Replica shirts will come complete with black arm bands.
    There is nothing more meaningless than seeing highly-paid, precocious superstars linking arms and standing in silent tribute to victims of an earthquake on the other side of the world.
    The spectacle of a giant furry mascot dressed as a chicken bowing his head in mourning is beyond preposterous. It is football’s equivalent of those teddy bears you see tied to railings at the scene of every road accident.
    Of course, there is a commercial incentive here for the Premier League. No doubt the Japanese TV rights are up for renegotiation soon.
    But why Japan and not, say, those massacred in Rwanda or starved to death by Mugabe in Zimbabwe? I don’t remember a minute’s silence for Haiti, although I may be mistaken. I’m sure we didn’t have a minute’s silence for our earthquake-hit Commonwealth cousins in Christchurch, New Zealand, before the Milan game. Maybe we did.
    These days we’d have a minute’s silence if Harry Redknapp’s dog got run over.
    I abhor the modern tendency to co-opt every tragedy in the world as an excuse for a self-indulgent display of cost-free compassion.
    Sam Kirkpatrick, a reader from Stanwick, Northamptonshire, saw a woman taking part in a road race this weekend wearing a T-shirt imploring spectators to: ‘Pray for the Japanese people.’
    The implication being: not just that she was advertising the fact that she is a caring soul, but if you don’t pray for Japan you must be a heartless bastard.
    By all means pray for Japan, if you are so inclined, but do it privately.
    Do you think the Japanese held a silent tribute for the victims of the London Transport bombings in 2005? Me neither. Meanwhile, they are getting on with the business of mourning their own dead and beginning the process of reconstruction. In Tokyo, life goes on pretty much normally.
    Caroline Graham reported from the Japanese capital in the Mail on Sunday. A businessman told her that reports of panic and chaos were greatly exaggerated.
    ‘Here in Japan we are more like the British with their stiff upper lip.’
    It only goes to show that the Japanese know as little about modern Britain as we know about them.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    What a cnut.
    They are militantly racist and in the past have been capable of great cruelty.

    Just like the English then?


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    The first half blatantly contradicts itself but I agree with pretty much everything in the latter part of the article.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Its not as if Japan is asking for these remembrances, so the issue is more with public displays of grief, which I kinda agree with once mass hysteria hits, but still, pretty scumbaggy article.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    It's like he's trolling his own piece.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Hooray for bigots.

    It's the Mail.

    They're worse than any Japanese prison camps. Only gramatically though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,941 ✭✭✭thebigbiffo


    man's got a point - those crazy japs are only now learning the meaning of karma.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭blaze1


    nothing like carrying on hatred..

    Thats an awful piece of writing. Her grandfather may have his reasons for not wanting to do a silence, but the world has moved on...

    I wonder does he drive a german car?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 36,634 ✭✭✭✭Ruu_Old


    hehehehehe Dick Littlejohn hehehehhehehehe :D:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,229 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Richard Littlejohn is one of the most self-opinionated **** on the planet, and his daughter Georgina, who also writes to total sh1t, didn't fall too far from the tree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭blaze1


    Hooray for bigots.

    It's the Mail.

    They're worse than any Japanese prison camps. Only gramatically though

    My cousin writes for the mail, she wouldnt incite borderline racism, quite the opposite.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,681 ✭✭✭Kat1170


    But how many of the hundreds of thousands of supporters corralled into grieving for Japan could even point to that country on a map?

    A man who knows the average IQ of his readers it appears :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Kat1170 wrote: »
    A man who knows the average IQ of his readers it appears :D

    But anywhere outside England doesnt matter, and those places are full of brown people anyway, who come over to take English jerbs. damn immigants.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Glassheart


    krudler wrote: »
    What a cnut.



    Just like the English then?

    Can you not see the irony here?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    man's got a point - those crazy japs are only now learning the meaning of karma.

    Not remotely funny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    blaze1 wrote: »
    My cousin writes for the mail, she wouldnt incite borderline racism, quite the opposite.

    Wow. Blatant bull runs in the family then.

    "Writes" is a bit of an exagerration for anyone at the mail though. They throw crayons at the WHITE Board.

    Only playing. I know she only copy and pastes what she is told to. It's not HER editorial slant. Unless she is the editor in which case she deserves a kick in the racist vagina.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    He's a kunt and an idiot for saying the Japanese are militantly racist, and for blaming all Japanese people for the horrors of WWII (yet he also objects to the British being made to feel bad about their country's history :confused:) but he's right: why is Japan being deemed more special? And why is it being offered aid when it is super wealthy? Although to be fair, aid has been refused.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,268 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Prick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Dudess wrote: »
    He's a kunt and an idiot for saying the Japanese are militantly racist, and for blaming all Japanese people for the horrors of WWII (yet he also objects to the British being made to feel bad about their country's history :confused:) but he's right: why is Japan being deemed more special? And why is it being offered aid when it is super wealthy? Although to be fair, aid has been refused.

    Where have they refused Aid? I know there are Chinese, French and American humanitarian teams on the ground for a start.
    And why is it being offered aid when it is super wealthy?

    Wow. Just wow. Per capita it has earnings but I think if I just lost my house and family I'd like a bit of a hand regardless that my neighbour makes some cash on the stock market.

    It's called humanitarism, empathity, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Nothing surprises me about the Daily Mail. This is the newspaper that supported Hitler afterall, and the mindset there is still the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    To be honest I do think there is a kernel of sensibility in that article, I don't get people's obsession with having hysterics about disasters in far flung places, its just a complete emotional over reaction.

    I'm not saying we shouldn't care, absolutely we should and if we can help then by all means help, but its this whole bandwagon of minute's silences, crappy wristbands and facebook statuses which I just don't see the point of.

    I'm not a Christian but probably my favorite saying from Jesus was "when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing", I'm sure he wouldn't be too impressed with this modern exaggerated outpouring of grief in which people try to out do one another in publicly displaying their shock at some event which has had no real impact on their lives.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Glassheart wrote: »
    Can you not see the irony here?

    err, yeah, thats the point, hes saying the Japanese were capable of cruelty, so were the English but it doesnt mean an entire nation should be lambasted for their actions in the past, if there was an earthquake in Germany would he be saying "oh well, serves them right for being Nazi's once so no support for them"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭blaze1


    Wow. Blatant bull runs in the family then.

    "Writes" is a bit of an exagerration for anyone at the mail though. They throw crayons at the WHITE Board.

    Only playing. I know she only copy and pastes what she is told to. It's not HER editorial slant. Unless she is the editor in which case she deserves a kick in the racist vagina.

    I suppose I should have left family pride out of it :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,510 ✭✭✭Hazys


    Dudess wrote: »
    He's a kunt and an idiot for saying the Japanese are militantly racist, and for blaming all Japanese people for the horrors of WWII (yet he also objects to the British being made to feel bad about their country's history :confused:) but he's right: why is Japan being deemed more special? And why is it being offered aid when it is super wealthy? Although to be fair, aid has been refused.

    To be fair more money has been donated to Haiti than Japan.

    Why is Japan deemed more special than people starving in Africa? For one, i think people in the first world have more of a connection with other people in the first world.

    When a major catastrophy occurs in a rich country like japan you feel the people affected are rich 1st world people like you. You feel that Japanese family was just like yours, the Dad is an engineer, the mother is a stay at home mom who works part time, kids are going to college but now, both parents are gone and the kids are orphaned. If it can happened to 1st world people like them it can happen to me.

    As opposed when a poor african family dies, we have very little in common and we kinda have grown to expect civil wars and famines in poor countries so we have started to block it out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 501 ✭✭✭Glassheart


    krudler wrote: »
    err, yeah, thats the point, hes saying the Japanese were capable of cruelty, so were the English but it doesnt mean an entire nation should be lambasted for their actions in the past, if there was an earthquake in Germany would he be saying "oh well, serves them right for being Nazi's once so no support for them"

    I was thinking of the "militantly racist" part that you quoted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,593 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    man's got a point - those crazy japs are only now learning the meaning of karma.

    Do you work for The Mail too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭blaze1


    Wow. Blatant bull runs in the family then.

    "Writes" is a bit of an exagerration for anyone at the mail though. They throw crayons at the WHITE Board.

    Only playing. I know she only copy and pastes what she is told to. It's not HER editorial slant. Unless she is the editor in which case she deserves a kick in the racist vagina.

    Its the guardian she writes for after that... But you probably already have something witty to say


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 37,214 ✭✭✭✭Dudess


    Where have they refused Aid? I know there are Chinese, French and American humanitarian teams on the ground for a start.
    From the Irish.
    Wow. Just wow. Per capita it has earnings but I think if I just lost my house and family I'd like a bit of a hand regardless that my neighbour makes some cash on the stock market.

    It's called humanitarism, empathity, etc.
    Of course - that's not what I'm referring to at all, and I'm in no way slagging off Japan. I'm talking about tacky outpourings of grief - like the girl wearing the t-shirt he mentions. Pompey above says it better.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Hazys wrote: »
    To be fair more money has been donated to Haiti than Japan.

    Why is Japan deemed more special than people starving in Africa? For one, i think people in the first world have more of a connection with other people in the first world.

    When a major catastrophy occurs in a rich country like japan you feel the people affected are rich 1st world people like you. You feel that Japanese family was just like yours, the Dad is an engineer, the mother is a stay at home mom who works part time, kids are going to college but now, both parents are gone and the kids are orphaned. If it can happened to 1st world people like them it can happen to me.

    As opposed when a poor african family dies, we have very little in common and we kinda have grown to expect civil wars and famines in poor countries so we have started to block it out.

    I get that it can be easier to identify and empathise with people with whom we have more in common, but it's the height of crassness to flaunt it so publicly, IMO. This armband and minute's/two minutes'/three minutes' silence crack sticks in my craw.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭actuallylike


    I think there's an elephant in the room missing here. A lot of stuff people are agreeing with from the article and I'll be honest I do too. Only this morning one of my friend's status updates was one of those 'post this on your page to raise cancer awareness' things. I dislike all those things and the wrsitbands and all that but it's only one of the things in the article. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

    I thought the referring to Japanese torture in WWII, whether his Grandfather-in-law would have felt sympathy and the constant contradictions about hating when 'lefties' try to make English feel bad for past occurrences but he's more than happy to do it with Japan would have gotten more of a rise out of people?

    But I suppose it is Littlejohn and it unfortunately should be expected by now.


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I think there's an elephant in the room missing here. A lot of stuff people are agreeing with from the article and I'll be honest I do too. Only this morning one of my friend's status updates was one of those 'post this on your page to raise cancer awareness' things. I dislike all those things and the wrsitbands and all that but it's only one of the things in the article. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

    I thought the referring to Japanese torture in WWII, whether his Grandfather-in-law would have felt sympathy and the constant contradictions about hating when 'lefties' try to make English feel bad for past occurrences but he's more than happy to do it with Japan would have gotten more of a rise out of people?

    But I suppose it is Littlejohn and it unfortunately should be expected by now.

    Yeah, I think most people are attuned enough to just disregard the drivel in the first few paragrpahs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭Buceph


    It's a complete trash piece.

    One thing caught my eye though, about the militantly racist part. I don't know how true it is. But what I have heard from people that went teaching there is that the Japanese are extremely insular.

    Anyone who has experience in the country or knowledge about them want to enlighten me on what Japan is like? Save this thread from the bilge that is the Daily Star/Mail/Sun or whatever it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    man's got a point - those crazy japs are only now learning the meaning of karma.
    When you say it like that it sounds racist.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Buceph wrote: »
    It's a complete trash piece.

    One thing caught my eye though, about the militantly racist part. I don't know how true it is. But what I have heard from people that went teaching there is that the Japanese are extremely insular.

    Anyone who has experience in the country or knowledge about them want to enlighten me on what Japan is like? Save this thread from the bilge that is the Daily Star/Mail/Sun or whatever it is.

    Japan, like any other country, has right wing "patriots"; some of whom hold political office and blame foreigners for crime, disease and so on. Sounds depressingly familiar, eh? Some of the "patriots" are Yakuza and permeate all strata of society; they glorify the country's military past and claim they are descendents of Samurai (this is highly debatable).

    The Japanese can be insular, after they (rightly, in my book) told the Jesuits where to go, the country was closed off to foreign contact, until the arrival of Captain Perry's Black Ships in the 1850s (iirc). They were then forced to trade with the rest of the world. With more exposure to the West, Japan's imperialism began to surge and disputes with Russia and China over islands became commonplace. The ancient religion of Shinto became "politicised" and Japan became heady with the idea of destiny.

    I will never be an apologist for its crimes during the Pacific War but I know and love Japan; my wife is Japanese and I've never met a more warm, friendly and polite people. All countries have bloody pasts but people like Littlejohn like to perpetuate the hatreds. There is insularity of course but I've met people at home who have never left Ireland or even visited Dublin!

    The people who suffer from the "second class citizen" snobbery in Japan are Koreans and Chinese, some of who's families changed their names to sound more Japanese. Also, those Brazilians (and Peruvians) who are of Japanese descent - many came to the land of their forefathers and found they were given the crappiest jobs and not made feel welcome. Some stayed, some went home.

    Japan's previous isolation, mixed with island mentality has resulted in its "otherness", for sure but you visit the place and I guarantee you'll be seduced by it's beauty and charm. Unless you're a budding Littlejohn, of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    "Richard Littlejohn, c*nt. Not someone who works as a c*nt."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭Buceph


    old hippy wrote: »
    snip

    Thanks for that.

    One other thing, I know someone who was big into anime (although he finds recent stuff pretty crap.) And was quite enamoured with Japan. He slowly stopped though, partly because of the weird **** that seems to come from their internet but also because he heard pretty bad stuff about how they treat their disabled citizens. Keeping them hidden and at home, and how they're not seen in public. He's in a wheelchair himself.

    I don't know how true it is, can you shed any light on that?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Buceph wrote: »
    Thanks for that.

    One other thing, I know someone who was big into anime (although he finds recent stuff pretty crap.) And was quite enamoured with Japan. He slowly stopped though, partly because of the weird **** that seems to come from their internet but also because he heard pretty bad stuff about how they treat their disabled citizens. Keeping them hidden and at home, and how they're not seen in public. He's in a wheelchair himself.

    I don't know how true it is, can you shed any light on that?

    I know a guy who was big into his Irish roots and talked incessantly about the occupied 6 counties and the evil British but after being exposed to the reality of modern Ireland he turned tail and is one of the biggest critics of Ireland. He writes to many Irish publications on the US East Coast decrying us Irish at every chance. I have no idea what made him a bit skittish but there you go. Something personal, no doubt.

    I cannot speak for all Japanese families but my father in law was an invalid towards the end of his life & I can guarantee you he was not hidden or spoken about in hushed/shamed tones!

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭Buceph


    old hippy wrote: »
    I cannot speak for all Japanese families but my father in law was an invalid towards the end of his life & I can guarantee you he was not hidden or spoken about in hushed/shamed tones!

    :)

    Ok. I'll look into it more. Maybe it's different with the elderly, or maybe my friend is wrong. Just wanted to get the thread onto something actually about Japan rather than about hate.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Buceph wrote: »
    Ok. I'll look into it more. Maybe it's different with the elderly, or maybe my friend is wrong. Just wanted to get the thread onto something actually about Japan rather than about hate.

    I positively encourage you to explore the truths and myths. There are elderly people in care homes here in the UK that are abused and treated badly but this is not representative of the whole country and I imagine the same goes for back home.

    Sometimes it's easier to promote fear and negativity than the opposite?

    Obviously I don't know your friend but I would urge him not to ignore a rewarding art form because of some negativity. If he goes to Japan he will find he's catered for and treated as normal as everyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,059 ✭✭✭Buceph


    His problem with anime doesn't really come from the attitudes he's heard of the Japanese.

    I think he's just watched all the greats made since the 80s and finds the newer ones (which he watches a bit of once they come out) to be a bit childish. His big hatred is the lack of adult characteres in anime. Even if it's still aimed at teenagers, he'd like to see more dealing with adult characters. He's just too old for most of it I'd say.

    Although I do love me some Hunter X Hunter.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    The minutes silence was for the Sunderland Liverpool game and was because there are close ties there with Japan, through the Nissan factory, workers, management, work and money. Can't believe he's cribbing about that.

    As for racism, same could be said of most countries to some extent.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Buceph wrote: »
    His problem with anime doesn't really come from the attitudes he's heard of the Japanese.

    I think he's just watched all the greats made since the 80s and finds the newer ones (which he watches a bit of once they come out) to be a bit childish. His big hatred is the lack of adult characteres in anime. Even if it's still aimed at teenagers, he'd like to see more dealing with adult characters. He's just too old for most of it I'd say.

    Although I do love me some Hunter X Hunter.

    Ach, you're never too old for anime/manga/comics etc. IMHO, natch. It's perfectly acceptable for an adult in Japan (and France, too) to be seen reading a "comic" - manga caters for everyone in Japan; housewives, salary men, students, goths, cosplay folk and yes... the odder types out there!

    What gets up my nose is when there's a high profile murder and the Western press find out that the perp was into some of the weirder manga. Cue dozens of articles about "this sick culture" etc :rolleyes:

    Man, they said that about rave, punk, rock and roll and jazz. Nothing changes :)

    Every strand of culture has its dark corners; you know it. Up to the individual whether they subscribe to it or not.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    Bumped

    Tabloid Watch on Littlejohn's "journalism"

    http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/


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