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Paddys Day Nightmare

  • 22-03-2011 2:33pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭


    Don't know where to start really. Went out with bf and friends Paddys Day and what started as a great night ended on a bad note and it's still upsetting me. I stuck to bottles of lager that day as I knew it would be a long one. I'd about 8 bottles over the space of 7 hours and one bottle and small glass of vino before the pub, with my dinner and 1 shot later on in the evening. I would normally be able to drink this and be fine. I ended up in an awful state and acting completely insane. I made my bf cry, he said I slapped him I didn't know where I was his friend had to bundle me in to a taxi and apparentely I was giving out to her that this was abuse and mentioned the guards. I tried to leave my bfs house wearing 2 of his odd shoes apparentely and. My bf said it was like I didn't know where I was or who anyone is. I can't remember any of the above except for some stuff I said to bf before leaving the pub. Everything else is blank. Firstly i'm so ashamed of my behaviour and secondly I can't make sense of how I ended up in a state and why I turned pscyho. I felt hungover the next day and it took it easy the Friday, then went out Sat night. I've been getting dizzy spells the last 3 days. Don't know what i'm looking for just to vent get advice I guess.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭cantdecide


    Look, something like this will probably happen everyone eventually. Stress, medication or illness or anything could have exacerbated things on the day but let's say someone spiked you drink, which isn't impossible, just be thankful you got drunk and made a fool of yourself and nothing worse happened. Learning from the experience is all you can do now.

    I'm sure you've made amends with your bf by now. Were those friends yours, his or both? If you have some apologising to do, just get on with it and put the whole experience behind you asap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    cantdecide wrote: »
    Look, something like this will probably happen everyone eventually. Stress, medication or illness or anything could have exacerbated things on the day but let's say someone spiked you drink, which isn't impossible, just be thankful you got drunk and made a fool of yourself and nothing worse happened. Learning from the experience is all you can do now.

    I'm sure you've made amends with your bf by now. Were those friends yours, his or both? If you have some apologising to do, just get on with it and put the whole experience behind you asap.

    They're mutual friends and she basically laughed about it the next day and we seem okay, but I feel bad still I was mean to my bf, I made him cry. We're not teenagers either, incase it looks that way. I apologised profusely to my bf. I'm just freaked out at the insanity of my behaviour, I always said if I stopped being a happy drunk i'd give it up. Sat night i'd about 5 WCC's i'd about 4 or 5 vodkas, sambuca shot and a Yeiger and there wasn't a bother on me. I was drunk but merry, up dancing, having a sing song etc.

    I am very lucky I have people that care about me and tried to look after me shove me in a taxi bring me home etc, rather than leaving me to my own devices for being an obnoxious drunk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭Dreams aloud


    I'm not judging (we've all been there :rolleyes:) but that does sound like a lot of alcohol for one day, so i'd just put your behaviour down to being drunk, don't worry about it as Paddy's day is a messy one for most people anyway!

    Just try to apologise to anyone you may have offended & be more careful about mixing too many drinks next time. People are generally understanding, once it's not a regular occurence so it should work out fine.

    All the best


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Hi OP,

    Are you on any medication at the moment that might have mixed badly with the drink?

    I think we've all been there though. A few years ago, I went out and drank no more than I usually would, even though at that age it was a pretty significant amount. Long story short, I end up in a similar state to how you were. I didn't know who I was, I didn't know who the people with me were, I didn't know who my parents were etc. Thankfully I had some caring friends who stuck by me and got me home safe, despite my every effort to prevent it.

    Could have been anything really, could have been a spiked drink, I could have taken drugs while I was drunk thinking it was a good idea etc. Regardless, I woke up the next day with no recollection of what had happened, I still felt like something bad had though, as you do on those sorry mornings.

    Long story short, when there's drink involved, your true friends or partner will never hold it against you. I've had two nights in total where I've totally lost it, both under reasonably suspicious circumstances, but regardless of my crazy behaviour its never been held against me. It's terribly embarassing in the short term, but the quicker you learn to laugh about it, the quicker it goes away. Just try to look after yourself and look after your friends, and don't hold it against them when they go through something similar :)

    Best of luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭JimmyCrackCorn


    Don't know where to start really. Went out with bf and friends Paddys Day and what started as a great night ended on a bad note and it's still upsetting me. I stuck to bottles of lager that day as I knew it would be a long one. I'd about 8 bottles over the space of 7 hours and one bottle and small glass of vino before the pub, with my dinner and 1 shot later on in the evening. I would normally be able to drink this and be fine. I ended up in an awful state and acting completely insane. I made my bf cry, he said I slapped him I didn't know where I was his friend had to bundle me in to a taxi and apparentely I was giving out to her that this was abuse and mentioned the guards. I tried to leave my bfs house wearing 2 of his odd shoes apparentely and. My bf said it was like I didn't know where I was or who anyone is. I can't remember any of the above except for some stuff I said to bf before leaving the pub. Everything else is blank. Firstly i'm so ashamed of my behaviour and secondly I can't make sense of how I ended up in a state and why I turned pscyho. I felt hungover the next day and it took it easy the Friday, then went out Sat night. I've been getting dizzy spells the last 3 days. Don't know what i'm looking for just to vent get advice I guess.

    Been there quite recently with a girlfriend.

    Id suggest you go to a doctor first make sure your actually ok and nothing underlying caused it.

    Then if its not medical evaluate your drinking and remember your a woman and as such drink affects you more and quicker than a man. (im not picking on you or being sexist)

    Allot of people have bad reactions to large amounts of drink also it may not happen every time or never again or sometimes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,643 ✭✭✭R.D. aka MR.D


    This i find can happen from starting too early in the day.

    I have no idea why maybe something do do with the lack of food?

    I also find that having your dinner after already having been drinking does very little to help so now i have a post-dinner drinking policy.

    In my experience all day drinking ALWAYS turns out messy also i think i get a bit cranky when i get tired during the day whereas after that many drinks on a night out you are usually rolling into bed anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    Have you considered drinking less. The amount you view as normal seems overtly excessive to me and is by definition binge drinking.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 987 ✭✭✭Kosseegan


    You have a problem with drink. The amount is well above any healthy level. take what happened as a warning. If you continue drinking excessively that kind of incident will become more frequent. You will have difficulty with relationships and suffer physically adn financially as well as becoming a social outcast. Healthy drinking is two to three drinks two to three times a week. It sounds very little compared to what some people drink but excessive drinking for some people leads to truoble. Big time. Some people can drink too much for years without major harm but others can't. You may be in the second category.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭Redpunto


    DO you think it could have been spiked? Happened to me once and your story sounds familiar. Blacked out for part of night, was completely out of character, etc.etc. Thanks god my fiance knew something was up and got me home as quickly as possible but i was not well for a few days after either. By time I got home the blackout had worn off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 Moe1


    I'd about 8 bottles over the space of 7 hours and one bottle and small glass of vino before the pub, with my dinner and 1 shot later on in the evening.

    Do you mean 8 bottles of beer, one bottle and glass of wine and a shot or 9 bottles of beer, one glass of wine and a shot?

    Either of those is a large amount of drink, but the 8 beers and bottle+ of wine is A LOT.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭up for anything


    When I started drinking the 'rule' was not to mix the grain with the grape or you'd be sorry and although I don't think there is any scientific proof to back it up it always seemed to work. I used to interpret it as either drink beer or drink spirits - don't mix the two. I also did a lot of bar work in my youth and the drunks I'd always dread were the men who drank pints interspersed with whisky chasers. The nicest old boy would turn into a monster after a few of those - whether from the rapid alcohol intake or mixing their drinks, I don't know.

    Maybe the Jager and the wine with the beer caused you to be a different drunk to the one you normally are. I noticed you said you are not teenagers and that is a ferocious amount you are drinking. For myself and lot of women I know when we hit thirty the amount we could drink declined and the hangovers climbed in intensity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 Moe1


    ...the 'rule' was not to mix the grain with the grape or you'd be sorry and although I don't think there is any scientific proof to back it up it always seemed to work.
    I've heard of a cousin of that:
    Beer after wine, I feel fine
    Wine after beer, I feel queer.

    Pretty accurate in my experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,256 ✭✭✭LeoB


    Let me start by saying I dont drink now but there was a time I could drink from about 8pm on Saturday night until 2 or 3 in the morning no problem have another good session on Sunday and be in work at 6.30am Monday. I stopped drinking the day I got a car and for no other reason. I used to have a great crack but never had any hassle however I might bump into someone during the week in the pub and they would remind me of something I would have said and they would just laugh at it, where I would be mortified.
    Have you considered drinking less. The amount you view as normal seems overtly excessive to me and is by definition binge drinking.

    Not at all is this amount of drink overly excessive in my opinion taking account of the time scale.
    Kosseegan wrote: »
    You have a problem with drink. The amount is well above any healthy level. take what happened as a warning. If you continue drinking excessively that kind of incident will become more frequent. You will have difficulty with relationships and suffer physically adn financially as well as becoming a social outcast. QUOTE]
    How can you tell from the post that this person has a drink problem?
    Thats a very big statement you made. Are you anti drink by any chance? Or a fortune teller;)
    Kosseegan wrote: »
    Healthy drinking is two to three drinks two to three times a week. QUOTE].
    Says who? Most professionals wont commit to an amount of drink but just say drink in moderation. Moderation is totally different ball game for different people whether it be size, gender, health or fitness.

    Redpunto wrote: »
    DO you think it could have been spiked? QUOTE]

    This was my first thought when I read your post. You are concerned enough to post a thread about it so I doubt this is regular for you.

    Over the period of time its not an excessive amount of alcohol, I talk from experience here but hasten to add I never drank a "shot" and rarely if ever mixed my drinks. Also watching other people in pubs when I go there I am amazed at what some people can drink.

    There are a few things that could have caused this and your drink being spiked is just one. Have you been on any medication recently? Were you tired? Have you worries? And the one which a lot of people overlook is Have you been on a diet? Iv recently seen how this can really cause havoc when drink is mixed as people dont realise some of the dieting formulas are actually prescribed medication like alli. I know one girl who about 2 weeks ago had 2 drinks and just passed out.

    The first thing I would do is pick up the phone and apologise, your friends wont mind and are probably as puzzeled as you. Im off out this Friday for a party and a few drinks and hope my Mrs has a blast. We will be out from about 6.30 and god knows what time we will get home at. She could well have 8 or 9 drinks but thats it then for god knows how long.

    Anyway get over it and move on. Hope you are ok


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 anxie


    I would echo a good deal of what LeoB has posted above.
    Well done for posting the story, hopefully it will encourage others to choose caution on long drinking sessions and keeping friends nearby.
    My wife once lost it following mixing drinks, never seen her like that before or since. I don't know enough about spiking, but it does seem like your mental state was altered.
    While I agree that some of the comments previous re: binging are somewhat OTT, I wouldn't consider the volume of drink you took combined with the mixing of it to be very sensible.
    Glad your day finished safe and with caring people when you needed it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,894 ✭✭✭Chinafoot


    Have you considered drinking less. The amount you view as normal seems overtly excessive to me and is by definition binge drinking.

    Really? According to the World Health Organisation binge drinking is defined as "drinking six or more standard drinks (about 3 pints of beer) during one drinking occasion."

    In the UK, the NHS defines it as "drinking heavily in a short space of time to get drunk or feel the effects of alcohol."

    Now if we go by the WHO anyone who has more than 3 pints on a night out is a binge drinker and if we go by the NHS it doesn't apply to the OP who consumed her alcohol over a period of 7 hours.

    Kosseegan wrote: »
    You have a problem with drink. The amount is well above any healthy level. take what happened as a warning. If you continue drinking excessively that kind of incident will become more frequent. You will have difficulty with relationships and suffer physically adn financially as well as becoming a social outcast. Healthy drinking is two to three drinks two to three times a week. It sounds very little compared to what some people drink but excessive drinking for some people leads to truoble. Big time. Some people can drink too much for years without major harm but others can't. You may be in the second category.

    What an offensive post. Who the hell are you to tell the OP she has "a problem with drink."?? She has stated quite clearly that nothing like this has ever happened before. She came here looking for advice and instead yourself and Cuddlesworth decide to take the opportunity to look down from your high horses with some sort of ridiculous moral outrage at what you deem to be an excessive amount of drink. You might not be able to handle that amount of drink but the OP hasn't had any issues before now. How about you try to step outside your own experience and offer some bloody advice? Posts like yours make my blood boil.

    OP, as others (who actually took the time to read your post properly) have said, it could have been anything. You may have been spiked, you could have been ill, you may not have eaten a sufficient amount. I know in the past I and people I know have had experiences with alcohol where a 3 pints could make us feel hammered and on other occasions we could have 10 pints and feel sober as a judge. It depends on so many different things on the night in question.

    I wouldn't stress too much about and just put it down to experience. If it continues to happen do go to your doctor as, like another poster mentioned, there could be an underlying medical issue. Keep a careful eye on your drink when you're out too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 497 ✭✭Mr Keek


    My girl friend was in the exact same boat as you, she completly embarrassed herself, but as everyone else has said, these things do happen once in a while, you just learned your lesson the hard way!

    Just treat your boyfriend to a meal or something and you should get his Friend a box a Chocs and a thank you card or something to say thanks & sorry. When they see you make an effort to thank them, and see you stand up to the fact that you did a foolish thing they are gonna come out with a "Arrah it's grand" kinda statment and probally share some of their own experiences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thanks everyone for their replies.

    To clear up a few things, i'm not on a diet I do eat healthy but quite well. I was on meds but came off them back in early February so don't think that would have a lot to do with it. I have had some stuff on my mind but nothing that hasn't been there for a long time, so don't think that would make me behave in such a manner.

    To the poster who said "You've a problem with drink", I find that highly offensive. I work 40 hours a week, i'm in college part time and I have 10 hours communting, where do you suggest I find the time to have a drink problem. I may have a few drinks once a week or once a fortnight, far from a drink problem. You shouldn't make such sweeping assumptions from one post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    OP I think what happened was due to the amount you drank.

    Am I right to say you had:

    8 bottles of beer
    1 bottle of wine and 1 small glass of wine
    1 shot

    If so that is a huge amount of alcohol. I think you really need to consider drinking less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    mood wrote: »
    OP I think what happened was due to the amount you drank.

    Am I right to say you had:

    8 bottles of beer
    1 bottle of wine and 1 small glass of wine
    1 shot

    If so that is a huge amount of alcohol. I think you really need to consider drinking less.

    Eh no I had 8 bottle of beer and a small glass of wine, as in half of one of those small bottles and a shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    Eh no I had 8 bottle of beer and a small glass of wine, as in half of one of those small bottles and a shot.
    Still quite a bit of alcohol, especially if you're a petite girl. I've seen people get wasted on less, even when they'd 'normally' be quite heavy drinkers. There's a hundred different factors that can affect exactly what level of intoxication you reach. The chances of your drink having been spiked are incredibly small, especially when there's a much simpler explanation.

    In this case, you drank too much for the set of circumstances that night. As it's the first time it happened, just take it as a warning. Know your limits, and be capable of switching to water when you think you might be getting too drunk.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,012 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    To the poster who said "You've a problem with drink", I find that highly offensive. I work 40 hours a week, i'm in college part time and I have 10 hours communting, where do you suggest I find the time to have a drink problem. I may have a few drinks once a week or once a fortnight, far from a drink problem. You shouldn't make such sweeping assumptions from one post.

    Regardless, " Sat night i'd about 5 WCC's i'd about 4 or 5 vodkas, sambuca shot and a Yeiger and there wasn't a bother on me" is a excessive amount of drink for a man on a single night out. And men have the advantage of a higher body weight, higher water to fat ratio and produce more dehydrogenase from their liver which metabolises alcohol to a harmless substance. To then comment that there wasn't a bother on you would be indicative of a high tolerance to alcohol trough overuse.

    You could easily cut this back and still maintain a good time. I would like to point out, I'm not implying you have a drink problem. But you are drinking a excessive amount in one sitting and to then query a forum as to why you reacted badly to it is obvious reading your posts.

    Your symptoms don't fit any of the date rape drugs or drugs that could have been easily ingested through a liquid substance. Which leaves the alcohol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP, if this amount of alcohol has this affect, you do have a problem with alcohol. Either cut it out completely or take a soft drink every second round.

    It's amazing how people get so defensive about alcohol, despite all the evidence pointing towards it being the main issue.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    So you drank to excess, got drunk, sobered up and then went out and got hammered again.

    What exactly is not clear to you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,057 ✭✭✭MissFlitworth


    mood wrote: »
    OP I think what happened was due to the amount you drank.

    Am I right to say you had:

    8 bottles of beer
    1 bottle of wine and 1 small glass of wine
    1 shot

    If so that is a huge amount of alcohol. I think you really need to consider drinking less.

    +1 - if that bottle of wine was a full sized 75cl bottle then you really packed away an awful lot of alcohol. As I get older (and not old or anything, just moving from early-mid 20s to late 20s) the amount of alcohol I can manage has dipped dramatically, especially if wine comes into the equation. I know people say that the 'types' of alcohol you drink have no affect on your behaviour and it's all an old wives tale but I definitely find wine to be crazy juice in large quantities. I definitely would say this is a case of just watching how much you drink in future


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    +1 - if that bottle of wine was a full sized 75cl bottle then you really packed away an awful lot of alcohol. As I get older (and not old or anything, just moving from early-mid 20s to late 20s) the amount of alcohol I can manage has dipped dramatically, especially if wine comes into the equation. I know people say that the 'types' of alcohol you drink have no affect on your behaviour and it's all an old wives tale but I definitely find wine to be crazy juice in large quantities. I definitely would say this is a case of just watching how much you drink in future

    I answered that question in an earlier post, it was half a small bottle of wine.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,057 ✭✭✭MissFlitworth


    I answered that question in an earlier post, it was half a small bottle of wine.

    Sorry, unregistered posts only come up when they're approved so your answer wasn't there when I replied.

    Sounds like you just had a really cr4p reaction to the drinks you did have so, really annoying when it does happen like that.


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,948 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    Op,
    The amount you drank would have me on the floor, but I'm a lightweight so dont mind me ;) but I did notice that you mixed a lot of drinks in the day and I think this is where your problem was.

    Wine rarely mixes well with anything - the old saying "never mix grape and grain" comes to mind. I have known grown men who had a single glass of wine along with only a couple of pints and ended up with their head stuck down the toilet. I think the wine upset the mix.

    if you are on beers/spirits, dont bring wine or wine based drinks (west coast cooler etc) into the mix. Or if you start on wine, stay on it, and drink only that.

    The thing is, you didnt plan to get wasted so your friends and boyfriend will understand - most people can overdo it accidentally so apologise and make amends. It will be someone elses turn before long.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    You had this over 7 hours? That is not much to drink at all. Get checked out by your GP, because that amount of alcohol in that amount of time should not be enough to get you so drunk as to change your personality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    You had this over 7 hours? That is not much to drink at all. Get checked out by your GP, because that amount of alcohol in that amount of time should not be enough to get you so drunk as to change your personality.

    I'm still getting dizzy spells but these didn't start until a couple of days after Paddys Day so they are probably just due to a hectic weekend. Would it be worth my while at this stage going to the GP, a week later like?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    You had this over 7 hours? That is not much to drink at all. Get checked out by your GP, because that amount of alcohol in that amount of time should not be enough to get you so drunk as to change your personality.

    If I drank that amount I would end up in hospital! Just because it won't be much for you doesn't mean it's not too much for the OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,256 ✭✭✭LeoB


    You had this over 7 hours? That is not much to drink at all. Get checked out by your GP, because that amount of alcohol in that amount of time should not be enough to get you so drunk as to change your personality.

    Agree with this post. That is not a lot of drink over that period of time.
    I'm still getting dizzy spells but these didn't start until a couple of days after Paddys Day so they are probably just due to a hectic weekend. Would it be worth my while at this stage going to the GP, a week later like?

    Maybe there is an underlying problem here. Go to your G.P as suggested as at least it might put your mind at ease. You are a busy person between working, college and comuting thats a long week.

    As suggested before cook the B.F a meal and a little box of chocs for the friend. Its old news now.

    Good luck to you.
    Good luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    mood wrote: »
    If I drank that amount I would end up in hospital! Just because it won't be much for you doesn't mean it's not too much for the OP.

    You'd end up in hospital after 8 bottles of beer, 1 shot and a small glass of wine after having a substantial dinner and breakfast, Really????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    IMO, you seemed to be angling that your drink was spiked from the word go. I'm not so sure. You can see from the replies that by a lot of people's standards, including my own, that you drank too much over a sustained period and had a bad reaction. End of, IMO. Also, if you blacked out, who knows if you weren't after drinking more that you aren't aware of. Don't forget that you had two very heavy sessions in quick succession.

    Unless you have evidence or at least, very strong feelings to the contrary, I think you should assume you just overdid it and take necessary steps to put things right. If you feel that strongly that you were spiked, go see a GP. However, I wouldn't go unless you are prepared for the fact that you might be told you simply overdid it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    mood wrote: »
    If I drank that amount I would end up in hospital! Just because it won't be much for you doesn't mean it's not too much for the OP.

    With respect, if you would be hospitalised after 10 units of alcohol in 7 hours then you may have an underlying condition. Unless you never drink, that is a shockingly low tolerance given your liver will process roughly 1 unit an hour in a healthy liver. The OP, if she did drink exactly what she said she did, should NOT have been in such a state.
    I'm still getting dizzy spells but these didn't start until a couple of days after Paddys Day so they are probably just due to a hectic weekend. Would it be worth my while at this stage going to the GP, a week later like?

    No harm in going to be honest, if you were that fcuked up after that relatively small amount of drink in large period of time, then it could signify either an underlying condition or something else in your drink. If you feel better and the dizzyness is gone, then you don't have to, but there is no harm in getting checked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,264 ✭✭✭mood


    With respect, if you would be hospitalised after 10 units of alcohol in 7 hours then you may have an underlying condition. Unless you never drink, that is a shockingly low tolerance given your liver will process roughly 1 unit an hour in a healthy liver. The OP, if she did drink exactly what she said she did, should NOT have been in such a state.

    Considering I'm a tinny, petite female it is understandable. Also, none of my family can drink very much (again none of us are tall or of big build).

    And a bottle of beer contains 1.7 units So that 13.6 units for the beer alone!

    http://www.goodtoknow.co.uk/health/259046/How-many-units-are-you-drinking--Beer-and-spirits


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Whynotme


    Op any chance you are pregnant? That amount over that period of time with food is not really over doing it. Maybe if you're still having problems go for a check-up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Redpunto wrote: »
    DO you think it could have been spiked? Happened to me once and your story sounds familiar. Blacked out for part of night, was completely out of character, etc.etc. Thanks god my fiance knew something was up and got me home as quickly as possible but i was not well for a few days after either. By time I got home the blackout had worn off.

    How do you know your drink was spiked though? To be honest I think the whole thing of drink spiking is little more than urban myth. Now I'm sure there have been isolated cases but 99% of the time it's just that the person simply drank too much or there were other factors which caused the alcohol effects to be increased, such as drinking on an empty stomach, tiredness etc

    Chinafoot wrote: »
    Really? According to the World Health Organisation binge drinking is defined as "drinking six or more standard drinks (about 3 pints of beer) during one drinking occasion."

    Stupid definitions like that are not at all helpful. Calling 3 pints binge drinking is nonsense. What counts as excessive drinking will obviously vary from person to person but I think 3 pints would be a fairly harmless amount for the vast majority of the population.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Don't know where to start really. Went out with bf and friends Paddys Day and what started as a great night ended on a bad note and it's still upsetting me. I stuck to bottles of lager that day as I knew it would be a long one. I'd about 8 bottles over the space of 7 hours and one bottle and small glass of vino before the pub, with my dinner and 1 shot later on in the evening. I would normally be able to drink this and be fine. I ended up in an awful state and acting completely insane. I made my bf cry, he said I slapped him I didn't know where I was his friend had to bundle me in to a taxi and apparentely I was giving out to her that this was abuse and mentioned the guards. I tried to leave my bfs house wearing 2 of his odd shoes apparentely and. My bf said it was like I didn't know where I was or who anyone is. I can't remember any of the above except for some stuff I said to bf before leaving the pub. Everything else is blank. Firstly i'm so ashamed of my behaviour and secondly I can't make sense of how I ended up in a state and why I turned pscyho. I felt hungover the next day and it took it easy the Friday, then went out Sat night. I've been getting dizzy spells the last 3 days. Don't know what i'm looking for just to vent get advice I guess.


    Are you sure you didn't drink more than you think you did? It's just that I don't understand how you can't remember slapping your boyfriend, trying to leave his house in odd shoes, getting bundled into a taxi etc., yet you somehow remember an exact list record of every single item you drank over the entire day and night.
    Your friend's mighn't have taken much notice of what you were drinking either, if they themselves were drinking,so I just don't know how you are so sure about what you drank.

    If I'm reading your post correctly, you had 8 bottles of beer, a small bottle of wine, and a glass of wine before you went to the pub.
    As you spread the beers out over the space of about 1 an hour, I'm presuming that you were relatively sober after them.
    After you had the small bottle and 1 glass of wine with dinner, were you still feeling relatively sober, or could you feel yourself abit tipsy at this stage?

    You then say that you only had 1 shot later in the evening (in the pub?)This is where I get confused. A shot is gone in about 2 seconds flat, so where you sitting there with no drink for the night in the pub, or did you switch to water/juice?
    Or is it possible that the shot is just the last drink that you remember taking?

    When exactly did you start feeling drunk? Was it after the beer, after the wine, or just after the shot? Ask your friends and boyfriend, exactly where it was your behavior started to change. Ask them, could they see you getting slowly progressively drunker, or did your behavior just switch extremely quickly after the shot?
    If it is the latter, then I suppose it is possible that the first [and possibly only] drink you had in the pub could have been spiked.[the shot]
    I don't think it's hugely likely though, just considering the fact that you were sober(?) when you arrived to the pub, and you were with a boyfriend and surrounded by friends. Also there wouldn't be much time to spike a shot, as it's usually, buy then drink in a flash.

    So either a. the one shot you had was spiked b.you drank more after that shot or c. you were already very drunk before you went to the pub and took the shot. [which I also don't think is very likely, as I doubt your boyfriend and friends would have brought you to the pub if you were already in the state that you mentioned]

    I'm just going by this OP, so sorry if I'm wrong about the above:
    I'd about 8 bottles over the space of 7 hours and one bottle and small glass of vino before the pub
    Did you have the beer at home or in the pub?
    Either way, I still think it's quite likely that the beer didn't interact well with the wine, or that you drank more than you remember.

    To put your mind at ease, you could go to the doctor and get your bloods done. Explain your situation, and maybe he/she could test for common spiking drugs. I don't know how long they stay in the blood. You could also get tested for pregnancy as Whynotme suggested, just to rule it out.

    You could be feeling dizzy because you went drinking again on the Saturday. Sometimes hangovers last a few days, so you might not have been fully recovered.

    I don't know if you usually drink beer, because you said you were going to just "stick to the lager" because you knew it was going to be a long day. If you usually don't mix lager with your wine, then you could have just underestimated or been unaware about how it would affect you.
    It has happened me before with wine and beer with bad results! I never drink wine, as I hate the taste, and it reminds me of vinegar. However I was broke once at a student party few years ago, and the girls gave me a bottle of wine from the fridge. Drank it all mixed with fizzy drinks and didn't feel too bad. Got the lend of a tenner, went to a club, 2 euro pints of beer. [I don't drink beer either], had about 4 pints [I think]- que crazy psycho person. Crying, screaming at the girls, bundled into taxi, throwing shoes at them in the house and crawling up the stairs, getting sick. :o
    Made quite a show of myself this Paddy's Day aswell, but not as bad as that student night and at least I was indoors. Did not go to pub during the day. Started drinking late in the evening at a house party. Drank my usual amount of bacardi, then in stupidness added many many glasses of vodka on top of that, and some beer. [no idea how much]. Went on rants for hours about everything that I found annoying in life, from some celebrities to recession. Would not shut up wrecking everybody's head. Boyfriend got annoyed with me, que screaming match. Eventually I conked out on couch, and boyfriend carried me to bed.:o

    I've gotten into this argumentative state about 4 times in my life I think, and I've been drinking since I was very young. It is extremely embarrassing, but like yourself I have great friends and boyfriend. They know it is very out of character, and just laugh about it the next day. I've had to see some of them in that state more often than I've been in it myself, so that's probably why.

    The slapping thing is pretty serious though OP. I don't know if I would stay with my boyfriend if he ever did that. But, it's between the two of you and he seems to have forgiven you. Lots of apologies and guarantees needed though, that it won't happen again.

    So go to the doc if you want to put your mind at ease, everyone seems to have forgiven you and laughed it off, so don't keep dwelling on it. Try to identify exactly where it went wrong, or if something like being spiked set it off. Once you identify what it was just try to be cautious about it happening again in the future.
    Easier said than done sometimes though, because even with the best of intentions it still happened me 4 times in my life.
    All you can do is try your best!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Are you sure you didn't drink more than you think you did? It's just that I don't understand how you can't remember slapping your boyfriend, trying to leave his house in odd shoes, getting bundled into a taxi etc., yet you somehow remember an exact list record of every single item you drank over the entire day and night.
    Your friend's mighn't have taken much notice of what you were drinking either, if they themselves were drinking,so I just don't know how you are so sure about what you drank.

    If I'm reading your post correctly, you had 8 bottles of beer, a small bottle of wine, and a glass of wine before you went to the pub.
    As you spread the beers out over the space of about 1 an hour, I'm presuming that you were relatively sober after them.
    After you had the small bottle and 1 glass of wine with dinner, were you still feeling relatively sober, or could you feel yourself abit tipsy at this stage?

    You then say that you only had 1 shot later in the evening (in the pub?)This is where I get confused. A shot is gone in about 2 seconds flat, so where you sitting there with no drink for the night in the pub, or did you switch to water/juice?
    Or is it possible that the shot is just the last drink that you remember taking?

    When exactly did you start feeling drunk? Was it after the beer, after the wine, or just after the shot? Ask your friends and boyfriend, exactly where it was your behavior started to change. Ask them, could they see you getting slowly progressively drunker, or did your behavior just switch extremely quickly after the shot?
    If it is the latter, then I suppose it is possible that the first [and possibly only] drink you had in the pub could have been spiked.[the shot]
    I don't think it's hugely likely though, just considering the fact that you were sober(?) when you arrived to the pub, and you were with a boyfriend and surrounded by friends. Also there wouldn't be much time to spike a shot, as it's usually, buy then drink in a flash.

    So either a. the one shot you had was spiked b.you drank more after that shot or c. you were already very drunk before you went to the pub and took the shot. [which I also don't think is very likely, as I doubt your boyfriend and friends would have brought you to the pub if you were already in the state that you mentioned]

    I'm just going by this OP, so sorry if I'm wrong about the above:

    Did you have the beer at home or in the pub?
    Either way, I still think it's quite likely that the beer didn't interact well with the wine, or that you drank more than you remember.

    To put your mind at ease, you could go to the doctor and get your bloods done. Explain your situation, and maybe he/she could test for common spiking drugs. I don't know how long they stay in the blood. You could also get tested for pregnancy as Whynotme suggested, just to rule it out.

    You could be feeling dizzy because you went drinking again on the Saturday. Sometimes hangovers last a few days, so you might not have been fully recovered.

    I don't know if you usually drink beer, because you said you were going to just "stick to the lager" because you knew it was going to be a long day. If you usually don't mix lager with your wine, then you could have just underestimated or been unaware about how it would affect you.
    It has happened me before with wine and beer with bad results! I never drink wine, as I hate the taste, and it reminds me of vinegar. However I was broke once at a student party few years ago, and the girls gave me a bottle of wine from the fridge. Drank it all mixed with fizzy drinks and didn't feel too bad. Got the lend of a tenner, went to a club, 2 euro pints of beer. [I don't drink beer either], had about 4 pints [I think]- que crazy psycho person. Crying, screaming at the girls, bundled into taxi, throwing shoes at them in the house and crawling up the stairs, getting sick. :o
    Made quite a show of myself this Paddy's Day aswell, but not as bad as that student night and at least I was indoors. Did not go to pub during the day. Started drinking late in the evening at a house party. Drank my usual amount of bacardi, then in stupidness added many many glasses of vodka on top of that, and some beer. [no idea how much]. Went on rants for hours about everything that I found annoying in life, from some celebrities to recession. Would not shut up wrecking everybody's head. Boyfriend got annoyed with me, que screaming match. Eventually I conked out on couch, and boyfriend carried me to bed.:o

    I've gotten into this argumentative state about 4 times in my life I think, and I've been drinking since I was very young. It is extremely embarrassing, but like yourself I have great friends and boyfriend. They know it is very out of character, and just laugh about it the next day. I've had to see some of them in that state more often than I've been in it myself, so that's probably why.

    The slapping thing is pretty serious though OP. I don't know if I would stay with my boyfriend if he ever did that. But, it's between the two of you and he seems to have forgiven you. Lots of apologies and guarantees needed though, that it won't happen again.

    So go to the doc if you want to put your mind at ease, everyone seems to have forgiven you and laughed it off, so don't keep dwelling on it. Try to identify exactly where it went wrong, or if something like being spiked set it off. Once you identify what it was just try to be cautious about it happening again in the future.
    Easier said than done sometimes though, because even with the best of intentions it still happened me 4 times in my life.
    All you can do is try your best!

    Eh, I don't remember it, he told me the next day and he told me how much I drank he was at my side for most of the night.

    No you're not reading my post correctly that's what I drank for the day not before the pub.

    A large bottle of wine and 4 pints is quite different to what I drank, pints get everyone drunk quicker and you sculled them in a nightclub. I had a small glass of wine and I am someone who drinks wine so I don't think your situation is the same as mine.

    This is as far as I read on your thread because you seem to have read the entire thing wrong, sorry.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,367 ✭✭✭✭watna


    OP - I don't think that what you drank is a huge amount over that space of time. I think you just had a bad reaction to it. It's happened to me and I was also mortified the next day. I also can't remember most of the night.

    What I found strange about your posts is that you had a terrible day, are really embarassed about it and it's obviously still worrying you but two days later you went out again and had a big night.

    When it happened to me I got such a fright I didn't drink for about 3 months afterwards. I think it might be an idea to take it easy on the booze for a while if you don't know what your reaction is going to be.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭Truley


    I weigh less than 50kg and if I drank as much as the OP did I would be in a very bad way. And I am a very frequent drinker, usually about twice a week I will have alcohol. I bet if you asked a person from any other nationality they would consider that a lot of drink!

    I found the amount you drank the Saturday after far more shocking. My only suggestion is to be more careful with what you drink in future. You definately need to cut back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭Azureus


    aidan24326 wrote: »
    How do you know your drink was spiked though? To be honest I think the whole thing of drink spiking is little more than urban myth. Now I'm sure there have been isolated cases but 99% of the time it's just that the person simply drank too much or there were other factors which caused the alcohol effects to be increased, such as drinking on an empty stomach, tiredness .

    This is an attitude that really pis$es me off tbh! You think 99% of people who claim they were spiked are actually just not able to hold their drink? Just goes to show how many people pluck statistics out of nowhere.
    http://www.roofie.com/statistics

    I have been spiked twice (went to a clinic to check this the first time-rohypnol, the second time was mdma and I found out who did it) and I know of two pubs and clubs in Dublin where the bar staff themselves were spiking drinks (legal action was taken so its not rumour). The first time had me in an awful state, similar in ways to the OP and I know a few people who just claimed I ws locked until I showed them test results. Its horrible being out of control like that and not helped by people like you bandying around false statistics and accusing people of essentially being liars.

    Anyway slightly OT. I dont think the OP had too much to drink (by Paddys day standards over that period of time at least). Not enough to lead to that kind of reaction. I dont think it was the best idea to drink so heavily the day after though. There are so many factors that could lead to the alcohol affecting you in this way, so all you can really do is apologise and move on from it. Im sure one or more of your friends have suffered the same plight in their time.

    If you are still feeling unwell, consult a doctor. Otherwise I would chalk it up to experience and make sure you drink enough water in between drinks on your next session :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,145 ✭✭✭Katgurl


    OP, i really don't understand why you would post a query in an advice forum and then dismiss all the replies such as SimilarSituation and tell her you didn't bother reading rest of her post. She asked some very pertinent questions which could be helpful.

    You are very defensive about fact you did not drink too much and seem intent on theory that your drink was spiked.

    For what its worth i have myself put away appalling amounts of alcohol some nights and been completely in control and yet still had the odd random night over the years where, for whatever reason, the alcohol has turned me mental. I find it utterly mortifying and have had to keep a close eye on my drinking for the next few months to make sure it doesnt' become a habit. I'm also surprised you wnet out on the sat and drank that much after your experience.

    So my advice would be to go to doctor and get checked out as your drink being spiked seems to be only possibility you will consider.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Azureus wrote: »
    This is an attitude that really pis$es me off tbh! You think 99% of people who claim they were spiked are actually just not able to hold their drink? Just goes to show how many people pluck statistics out of nowhere.
    http://www.roofie.com/statistics

    I have been spiked twice (went to a clinic to check this the first time-rohypnol, the second time was mdma and I found out who did it) and I know of two pubs and clubs in Dublin where the bar staff themselves were spiking drinks (legal action was taken so its not rumour). The first time had me in an awful state, similar in ways to the OP and I know a few people who just claimed I ws locked until I showed them test results. Its horrible being out of control like that and not helped by people like you bandying around false statistics and accusing people of essentially being liars.

    Anyway slightly OT. I dont think the OP had too much to drink (by Paddys day standards over that period of time at least). Not enough to lead to that kind of reaction. I dont think it was the best idea to drink so heavily the day after though. There are so many factors that could lead to the alcohol affecting you in this way, so all you can really do is apologise and move on from it. Im sure one or more of your friends have suffered the same plight in their time.

    If you are still feeling unwell, consult a doctor. Otherwise I would chalk it up to experience and make sure you drink enough water in between drinks on your next session :)

    I didn't drink the day after?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,910 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    Azureus wrote: »
    This is an attitude that really pis$es me off tbh! You think 99% of people who claim they were spiked are actually just not able to hold their drink? Just goes to show how many people pluck statistics out of nowhere.
    http://www.roofie.com/statistics
    A link which gives information on people who claimed their drink was spiked and has no statistics on actual cases. By a huge, huge majority, alcohol is the most common date-rape drug.

    No-one is saying drink-spiking never happens. However, in the case of the OP, she drank a significant amount of alcohol. It is certainly enough to get someone drunk. And when other factors come into play, it would easily be enough to get someone wasted, regardless of what they can "normally" drink. It might as well be argued that she had a temporary mental breakdown coupled with short-term amnesia. It's possible that is what happened, but the alcohol is by far and away the most likely explanation. It falls under Occam's Razor - "the simplest explanation is usually the best".

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Katgurl wrote: »
    OP, i really don't understand why you would post a query in an advice forum and then dismiss all the replies such as SimilarSituation and tell her you didn't bother reading rest of her post. She asked some very pertinent questions which could be helpful.

    You are very defensive about fact you did not drink too much and seem intent on theory that your drink was spiked.

    For what its worth i have myself put away appalling amounts of alcohol some nights and been completely in control and yet still had the odd random night over the years where, for whatever reason, the alcohol has turned me mental. I find it utterly mortifying and have had to keep a close eye on my drinking for the next few months to make sure it doesnt' become a habit. I'm also surprised you wnet out on the sat and drank that much after your experience.

    So my advice would be to go to doctor and get checked out as your drink being spiked seems to be only possibility you will consider.

    I am not defensive, I simply stated I didn't read the post because she didn't seem to understand what the issue was or what was written in the original post, ie she thought I drank 8 bottles and a glass of wine before leaving the house and how did I remember all the events that had occurred when clearly I didn't. I never mentioned once that I thought my drink was spiked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭muboop1


    Hey OP

    For the record, I don't think what you drank is over the top. I myself drank far more, granted I'm a lad, and considerably bigger, but I know pleanty of girls who could easily handle what you drank.

    What I will say is this... You seem to be leaning towards being spiked... If I was going to spike a girl, I wouldn't choose the girl with the BF right beside her all night.. That said some people are just asses so maybe you are... But something is telling me you weren't.

    Look, I always drink about 8 cans before I hit a night club. This tends to have me a bit drunk but nothing excessive. I can remember all my nights, and functions perfectly and have great fun.

    However, a while back I had 6 cans (less then normal) and I was trashed, vomiting in the bathroom, talking **** and generally being a belligerent prat.

    I know I wasn't spiked, cans in a mates gaf with only close friends there. What caused it? I had eaten well, slept well... It was just alcohol in general! My tolerance was obviously down for some unknown reason, but it happens! That's life, we cannot always predict what will happen or how our bodies can react.

    Put it down to one of those times and next time monitor yourself better. If you feel you are getting drunk on less then normal, cut back accordingly! Try to stick to a single type of drink, I find mixing makes ME get drunker, so I avoid. Gives me more control. End result is, you have nobody to blame but yourself, but rather then blame yourself or get hung up on the scenario, learn from it! Be more careful in future!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I am not defensive, I simply stated I didn't read the post because she didn't seem to understand what the issue was or what was written in the original post, ie she thought I drank 8 bottles and a glass of wine before leaving the house and how did I remember all the events that had occurred when clearly I didn't. I never mentioned once that I thought my drink was spiked.

    Well you read far enough to be able to compare how much I drank compared to you, and that was near the end of the post.
    I said further down in the post that I may have been mistaken about whether you drank the bottles before going to pub, but quoted your sentence that caused me the confusion.
    I also said either way [whether you drank them before, or at the pub], that I still thought that maybe the beer just didn't interact well with the wine, or that you had drunk more than you remembered.
    I also never said that you remembered the events,
    I KNOW you can't remember, that is what I said, and that was exactly my point.
    If you can't remember all the things that happened then you clearly could have drank more than you thought, and would not remember it.
    You then replied to my post that your boyfriend told you how much you drank, because he was by your side for most of night. If he was drinking himself, or even if he wasn't I don't see how he would have been keeping count of every single drink you were taking. You could also have had more shots or something at some of the times he wasn't beside you.

    It was just a possibility that I was suggesting OP, amongst other possibilities. I posted my own experiences, to give you examples that losing it with drink can happen to anybody.
    In my case because of excess, but it can even happen sometimes within people's normal limits, I don't know why, there could be a number of reasons.
    I also suggested getting your bloods done at the doctors, to rule out spiking [even though I think it's less likely] or pregnancy to put your mind at ease.

    Anyways, don't stress too much. Your friends and boyfriend have forgiven you, so it hasn't ended up too bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭Companero


    I always drink about 8 cans before I hit a night club

    I see this as background to your post OP. Many of the people I know would probably say something similar , 6-10 cans before you go out to a nightclub and drink shots and so on. In Ireland this is Normal behaviour, and is what people do.

    In most other countries this would be considered a staggering amount of booze to be drinking, particularly for a woman, in this country it's just the beginning. So when somebody chimes in and tells you you have a drink problem you naturally feel miffed: But remember that it is really that you live in a country where the majority of adults have an unhealthy relationship to alcohol, and thus consider this type of drinking to be not such a big deal.

    If you drank that much in Italy or Spain your friends would be wondering whats wrong with you, is there some major crisis in your life....in Ireland its just Saturday night.

    So Im not saying you have a drink problem in the classic sense of the word, but something is probably up in your relationship with the sauce, and dont let the fact that you are surrounded by others who are nearly in the same boat make you think its OK. You probably have a little work to do on yourself, like most of the rest of us. Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭ppink


    I'm still getting dizzy spells but these didn't start until a couple of days after Paddys Day so they are probably just due to a hectic weekend. Would it be worth my while at this stage going to the GP, a week later like?


    OP I think you should see a doc about this. I had a very similar incident to you and it turned out I had a couple of medical issues that more than likely contributed to my disasterous night out also.
    (nothing serious medically at that time but enough to put me out of kilter for a while and the drink did not help)
    so dont worry but do check in with your doc to see.


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