N18 dual-carriageway speed limit?

Testament1

Specifically the section just before the turn off for Limerick (near the Radisson)? I was always under the impression that it was 100km/h but I got pulled by the Guards last night around 11.30pm who informed that I was clocked at 97km/h and that it was a 60km/h zone. I know that the section closer to the Coonagh roundabout is 60km/h alright but I didnt think the bit where I was pulled was 60km/h especially since the slip-road off it is 80km/h

source

Until you get onto the dual carriage way (in line with the tunnel) it's 50/60kph. The old section of dual carriage way is now peppered with commercial and residential exits and roundabouts so the speed has been lowered along that section.

It is now more like the section of dual carriage way between the Groody and Parkway roundabouts, instead of a full on dual carriage way.

Twin-go

What direction where you coming from Testament?

Coming from Shannon Direction it is 100km/h and 80km/h when you take last exit before tunnel to the roundabout next to Two Mile Inn where it becomes 60km/h.

Testament1

Twin-go wrote: »

What direction where you coming from Testament?

Coming from Shannon Direction it is 100km/h and 80km/h when you take last exit before tunnel to the roundabout next to Two Mile Inn where it becomes 60km/h.

I was coming from Ennis

phill106

Twin-go wrote: »

What direction where you coming from Testament?

Coming from Shannon Direction it is 100km/h and 80km/h when you take last exit before tunnel to the roundabout next to Two Mile Inn where it becomes 60km/h.

Think it is the same as twin-go says, 100 till the turn off, 80 down the slipway. Ill double check tomorrow though!

highlydebased

Its 100, 80 down the slip way toward the raddison, then changes to 60 when you enter Limerick, just before the clondrinagh roundabout. If I'm reading what you said right, there is no way that is a 60 zone.

Testament1

They pulled me just before the slip road down to the roundabout by the Radisson. Exit 4 I think it is for Limerick and Caherdavin. They pulled one or two cars who were going straight on towards the tunnel aswell. I was very surprised to hear him say it was 60km/h

Berty

If you were on the dc then it is 100km/h.

If I'm reading your posts correctly. Ring the Garda station they hail from.

Skuxx

Definetly 100kph!!

zuroph

ya, thats 100kph, feckin idiots. sure the camera van thats parked there every day would have me a million times if it was 60. ring the station and rip into the super.

this has made me quite angry, if its where its supposed to happen, guys getting paid to work sat there for the night issuing tickets to innocent people? Hope they get a bollocking, imagine if the tickets get to court, the amount of time and money wasted...

Mc Love

My neighbours also got pinged on that route even though they were on DC and were doing below 100!

Testament1

Mc Love wrote: »

My neighbours also got pinged on that route even though they were on DC and were doing below 100!

Did they get pulled over?

Mc Love

Nope - sent a letter with their reg and the speed they were going. Will have to ask if they got off with it

highlydebased

zuroph wrote: »

this has made me quite angry, if its where its supposed to happen, guys getting paid to work sat there for the night issuing tickets to innocent people? Hope they get a bollocking, imagine if the tickets get to court, the amount of time and money wasted...

Has also made me highly irate.

I have just drove from Cratloe in to town and back. Its without doubt 100. There are no speed limit signs until you are on the off ramp.

Testament1

I was thinking as much....When he was taking my reg and checking tax I could see that the sign on the slip road said 80km/h and I was wondering how the f*ck the slip road could have a higher limit than the dual carriageway!

Our conversation went like this:

Guard: Do you know what speed you were doing?

Me: About 100km/h

Guard: Do you know what the limit is here?

Me: 100km/h

Guard: Guess again

Me: 80km/h???

Guard: No its 60

Me:

phog

If you're sure about the signs, go back out there tomorrow and record the route you drove and ensure the speed limit signs are visible. Then head off to your solicitor.

phill106

phog wrote: »

If you're sure about the signs, go back out there tomorrow and record the route you drove and ensure the speed limit signs are visible. Then head off to your solicitor.

Just so you dont get yourself arrested for dangerous driving, have someone else record while you drive, or vice verca :P
You are definitely in the right.

Twin-go

Testament1 wrote: »

I was thinking as much....When he was taking my reg and checking tax I could see that the sign on the slip road said 80km/h and I was wondering how the f*ck the slip road could have a higher limit than the dual carriageway!

Our conversation went like this:

Guard: Do you know what speed you were doing?

Me: About 100km/h

Guard: Do you know what the limit is here?

Me: 100km/h

Guard: Guess again

Me: 80km/h???

Guard: No its 60

Me:

If that was me my blood would be boiling and I would be finding it very hard not to get myself in more trouble. I would have asked him to show you where the speed sign for 60km/h is on that road.

I'd be supprised if you actually get a ticket.

On a side note I got pulled over there nearly exactly a year ago when there still was road works. can't remember what the reduced limit was but he showed me that I was clocked at 122km/h :eek::eek:. I was ready for a trip to the station as I also didn't have my lience on me. But, he just took my details and said I'd get the fine/point in the post. The letter never arrived.:cool:

Testament1

Twin-go wrote: »

If that was me my blood would be boiling and I would be finding it very hard not to get myself in more trouble. I would have asked him to show you where the speed sign for 60km/h is on that road.

I asked him where the 60km/h limit started and he just said "A good bit back, you're not on a motorway here only a dual carriageway" ....what the f*ck like?!
Anyway I dont want to press him too much in case he decided to kick up a fuss over my exhaust or my blown headlight (bulb had blown on the Sunday and has since been replaced BTW)

Henry Ford III

It's 100kph. I'd have been quite cross too, but not till afterwards.

I suggest you write to the chief super and provide full details.

Skuxx

I was just driving in from Shannon there and turned on my sat nav which tells you your current speed and also what the speed limit is for the road your on. It did switch down to 60 for the section of the dual carriageway about 1km before the turn-off!!
I always drive that road at 100 and have passed the camera van loads, never got a ticket so I don't know! Also was keeping an eye out for speed limit signs, didn't see any until the 80kph on the turnoff!!

Berty

Of course you didn't see any signs Alan.............because they don't exist.

Stupid stupid Gardai in my opinion. They will get their asses handed to them by the Sergeant/Super from all the complaints they will be getting from that night(most likely)

highlydebased

I recall that, during the roadworks it WAS 60....because it was reduced to one lane as far as the slip road. The signs are since removed making it 100 again. Obviously this Garda has been out of the loop

Testament1

Berty wrote: »

Of course you didn't see any signs Alan.............because they don't exist.

Stupid stupid Gardai in my opinion. They will get their asses handed to them by the Sergeant/Super from all the complaints they will be getting from that night(most likely)

I dont know if there will be all that many to complain.....only about 3-4 cars came up on me while I was pulled and I'm fairly certain from the way I saw them come around the bend in my mirror that they werent doing 60km/h either.......still though only one of them got stopped, dont know how long he was kept there because I was just pulling away when they stopped him.......maybe the Guard just didnt like the look of my Levin :rolleyes:......either way I must take a spin out that road again tomorrow and if theres no signs indicating a change from a 100km/h limit to any lower limit then someones going to get one angry f*cking phone call :mad:

phill106

Testament1 wrote: »

I dont know if there will be all that many to complain.....only about 3-4 cars came up on me while I was pulled and I'm fairly certain from the way I saw them come around the bend in my mirror that they werent doing 60km/h either.......still though only one of them got stopped, dont know how long he was kept there because I was just pulling away when they stopped him.......maybe the Guard just didnt like the look of my Levin :rolleyes:......either way I must take a spin out that road again tomorrow and if theres no signs indicating a change from a 100km/h limit to any lower limit then someones going to get one angry f*cking phone call :mad:

Rather then an angry phone call, a civil visit to mayorstone gardai station might get you further

zuroph

no need to go and check, I came back that way this evening from Galway, the last speed limit sign before the exit is way back just before exit 5 Cratloe, its a 100 kph sign. the next sign is a 80kph on the sliproad for caherdavin (exit 4), or if you stay on n18, a 100 kph reminder beyond the junction

keane2097

Yup just double checked on the way in there. There is certainly no 60kph sign anywhere along the dual carriageway.

Berty

I did the same thing this evening and even got angry on your behalf.

Coming back down the N18 and it was clearly 100km/h although my Sat Nav varied between 50/60 and 100km/h along the route clearly down to the fact Tom Tom are useless beggars.

littlemis

Okay so today I had to go to limerick from the Shannon side,so I turn left instead of going straight [the tunnel] anyway just as i turn left there is a 80 kph ,I approach raddison go straight another 80 kph sign,driving on towards Coonagh as I get to around the car lot on the left there is a 60kph sign and a good few more 60kph signs all the way till I get to Coonagh roundabout....If i were you I would contact the traffic patrol unit along with the info you have and see what happens.They have been known to rectify situations.All the better if you had a photo of the signs.

Tech3

The N18 dual carriageway is 100km/hr from junction 3 to junction 9. The only section where it is 80km/hr is through the Limerick Tunnel and 60km/hr at the toll plaza. There should be no need to check signs. NRA will even say it is and they are over the national primary road network.

phill106

Berty wrote: »

I did the same thing this evening and even got angry on your behalf.

Coming back down the N18 and it was clearly 100km/h although my Sat Nav varied between 50/60 and 100km/h along the route clearly down to the fact Tom Tom are useless beggars.

I also had a look at tomtom on phone this morning, from about 2km back it dropped to 80, then down to 60km about 1km back, despite all the signs saying 100!

Fight the power!

zuroph

update please testament?

Testament1

Sorry, been flat out with college work this week so havent had much time for anything else, including this speed limit business. I produced my insurance cert at Ennis Garda station today and I asked the Guard in there about it and he just told me if I want to contest it I'll just have to wait for the summons :rolleyes:

Im not sure what station the Guard was from that stopped me but I'll ring Henry Street station first I suppose and see if they can tell me if they had a checkpoint set up that night.

I've been on that road since myself since and I couldnt spot any signs indicating a 60km/h limit.

zuroph

try mayorstone first, its their region AFAIK.

Testament1

Right so I went into the station there today and told them my story. The 2 Guards at the desk both agreed that its not 60km/h where I was stopped. They said that my best bet is to wait until I get the notice so I'll be able to prove the location. They also said theres a chance that I might not get any notice if the Guard realises his mistake. So I guess I just have to wait.

echomadman

Keep on at them and get a name and id number for every garda you speak to.
I got pulled last year on the bike and had left my wallet with licsens tax disk etc at home and had to produce documents yadda yadda.
I did so and still got a summons for "no insurance, no tax, no production of documents .." and a few other things. Dont take anyones word that "It'll be grand"
Also re: waiting for it to go to court, as soon as you get the summons (if you do) go in and insist that it be struck out, find the garda that wrote you up and get it in writing, why should you have to take a day off work or pay a solicitor to go to court over their incompetence.

Testament1

Thought I'd give this a quick bump. A little over 4 weeks on and I haven't heard any more on this since. No letter came in the post so I'm presuming that the clown of a Guard realised what the speed limit actually is on that road!

Jofspring

Testament1 wrote: »

Thought I'd give this a quick bump. A little over 4 weeks on and I haven't heard any more on this since. No letter came in the post so I'm presuming that the clown of a Guard realised what the speed limit actually is on that road!

I got a summons about 4 months (maybe more) after being pulled saying I didn't produce my license in the Garda Station. It was a mistake by the Gardai as to be on the safe side (well I thought I was doing the right thing) I produced my license and insurance in Henry Street about 6 days (was given 10days) after being pulled. When I received my summons I notified the Gards what happened and I had to talk to the Gard that pulled me over. First of all it took ages to track down the Garda that pulled me over as he was supposedly always out on duty. When I finally I got him I was told the Garda on duty the day I produced my documents must have only put down I brought in my insurance. I was told that it would be quashed, that there was no reason to go to court and not to worry about it. 3 weeks later a fine for 400euro, 200 for not producing my license and 200 for not appearing in court. Again I had to go down to the courts about this to put in an appeal which took about 3 hours out of work before I found out what the story was. A few weeks later I received a letter telling me when my appeal was being heard. Again another 4 hours out of work was spent down at the court only for it to be quashed straight away.

Moral of the story: If you are asked to produce any documents in any Garda Station make sure you get some kind of reciept to confirm you did so. DO NOT take the Gards word for it that it is sorted.

Also another mate of mine got a summons close to a year after being pulled over for not having a full licensed driver with him so you may get a summons yet. I would think you will win your appeal very easily though and the Gardai should be very embarrassed.


I have another story about something silly a Garda tried. My girlfriend who was in Mary I at the time parked on South Circular Road and when she returned to her car there was an A4 piece of paper stuck to her windscreen saying to expect a parking ticket. It looked like something I'd do up on my computer. She was parked perfectly legal, not on yellow lines, not in a disc parking only area, not blocking a driveway and not near a bend. She then noticed this particular Garda had given about 6 more cars in that area (all parked perfectly legal) the same A4 piece of paper. Luckily my girlfriend took pictures of where she was parked and when her ticket arrived she sent it straight back to the super intendant saying she would not be paying the parking fine and with pictures as evidence. He agreed she was in the right and that they would look into it. To me that reeked of this particular Garda chancing his arm giving a load of people tickets because the mood struck him. It was quashed and we never heard anymore about it. Was he trying to fill some kind of quota? A lot of people do park illegally up there or used to anyway so he probably thought why not give out a few more while I'm up here.

pinkfloyd34

sorry for bringing up an old thread but google threw this up when I searched N18 speed limits, the speed van was at the exact spot before you leave the dual carriage way going into limerick, just before the radisson. I was doing about 80kph and noticed a flash coming from the speed van, does that mean im caught or could it have been a car behind me?

Cookiemunster

pinkfloyd34 wrote: »

sorry for bringing up an old thread but google threw this up when I searched N18 speed limits, the speed van was at the exact spot before you leave the dual carriage way going into limerick, just before the radisson. I was doing about 80kph and noticed a flash coming from the speed van, does that mean im caught or could it have been a car behind me?

The limit there is 100kph. It doesn't drop to 80 until your on the slip road.

pinkfloyd34

great must have been a car behind me so maybe coming around the bend, but flash went off when I was right in front of the VAN

SleeperService

pinkfloyd34 wrote: »

great must have been a car behind me so maybe coming around the bend, but flash went off when I was right in front of the VAN

Garda van or go safe van?
Is your car taxed, insured, not declared off the road and is it nct'd. Not sure about nct and insurance, but the vans with ANPR could check a lot more than speed now...

pinkfloyd34

SleeperService wrote: »

Garda van or go safe van?
Is your car taxed, insured, not declared off the road and is it nct'd. Not sure about nct and insurance, but the vans with ANPR could check a lot more than speed now...

everything up to date

eyebrows63

Just passed the go safe van between the clonmacken and coonagh roundabout